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00:01
@Braiam sounds nice
@HomegrownTomato To mark this two-year anniversary, close reason usage stats for Stack Overflow for the past two years:
Total questions closed
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698957

(1 row(s) returned)

Total questions asked PctClosed
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6008662               11.63 %

(1 row(s) returned)

Name                                       Closed     Closed->Edited Closed->Reopened Cl->Ed->Re
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duplicate                                      143353      21287           5572             2120
exact duplicate                                  1947        192             41               20
Argh, merge the wording changes.
But there sure is a lot of dups.
pretends to look puzzled and not see the obvious reason, that there are no more nondup good questions left
@Shog9 Nice, now I don't need to ask what the current usage stats are for the legal close reasons
44        it is about maths.
40        it is about math
buahaha
user259867
Notable: in the percentage table, Cl->Ed->Re is the percentage of Cl->Ed, not of all Closed.
user259867
00:17
I would be cool if the internal data explorer (with access to deleted posts) had a public-facing read-only interface, where queries can't be created or edited, but existing queries can be executed.
user259867
So that stats on deletion are available directly, without annual or semi-annual meta posts.
Or, like, a stats page.
Anybody want one of those for DD?
user259867
Already available.
user259867
Jan 11 at 3:15, by Shog9
I heard DevDoodle gets 20,000 questions per day, and bjb single-handedly deletes all of them
:D
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Q: Long messages have unnecessary horizontal scrolling

bjb568Here, after clicking "(see full text)" there is a horizontal scrollbar displaying even tho the text is wrapped and doesn't extend past the visible box. This happens both in transcript and live chat.

00:34
@HomegrownTomato that would be cool. Although it's worth noting that this particular query is disgustingly slow. And also disgusting in other ways.
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> Some amazing people officially join my team on Monday. I'm not used to looking forward to Mondays, this feels weird. -- Tim Post at 9:58 PM - 11 Jun 2015 via Twitter
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> To our new hires starting on Monday, let me just preemptively say: I am sorry. I deeply regret doing whatever it was. -- OMG Gahbe Stahp at 5:36 PM - 12 Jun 2015 via Twitter
user259867
So much hype.
so bluefeet i'm guessing? whoelse?
user259867
@Dronehinge Juan the new Spanish-speaking CM
00:48
@HomegrownTomato You are guessing the name or the new CM name is really "Juan"?
user259867
@Braiam No, I'm not in the habit of using names like that... source
user259867
There's a nonzero chance that bluefeet knows some Spanish too, being from Arizona. But I don't really know about that.
user259867
@bjb568 Obvious solution: ask the same questions in other languages.
that's… basically a dup
user259867
Comments on the blog post announcing ru.SO are so... blog-commenty.
00:56
> It’s so annoying. Why, because neither is Google.
It’s the same thing. Google isn’t sharing anything. No advertiser sees any user data, ever.

It’s like when you advertise in a newspaper. You pay the newspaper to display the ad in the right section. But as an advertiser, you have no clue as to who it reaches. You just know it has been targeted right.

That’s how Google Adwords work.
@bjb568
source?
It sounds dubious and I don't know why they're talking down to me.
Ok, fine, but I don't want google/apple having my data any more than for third parties.
Then become a caveman.
Give away your iPhone.
Go back to the stone age.
No internet.
Food... water... shelter... that's all we need, right?
I want to minimize it. It's not the most important thing.
Try not to blow my values out of proportion here.
01:01
I'm saying you can't avoid it unless you don't use their services.
Sure, but I can minimize it.
... how?
"{Apple, Google} you're bad! Stop using my data!"
$_.push Microsoft
oh you...
@hichris123 I can stop using their services…
@JanDvorak Wait, there's both a dollar sign and an underscore now? Have the storms collided?
01:10
9 mins ago, by hichris123
I'm saying you can't avoid it unless you don't use their services.
"last result" in chrome console
@hichris123 Or I can stop using part of their service… or use blocking… or whatever
:p
@inf
Today in "bjb squashes Inf"
02:03
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: Paragraph between longtable title and main table? by user80052 on tex.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector ignore- suggested edit
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why do players enter with children on the ground? by Conner on sports.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu- and the question above it
02:33
I love having internet at 1/13th its usual speed.
03:15
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Q: Long messages have unnecessary horizontal scrolling

bjb568Here, after clicking "(see full text)" there is a horizontal scrollbar displaying even tho the text is wrapped and doesn't extend past the visible box. This happens both in transcript and live chat.

Why does everybody hate this?
Because it only happens on that post, and it makes sense for preformatted text?
03:34
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Ways Reduce Wrinkles On Your Face by Roxy Leon on askubuntu.com
@KevinBrown … but the text wraps so scrolling gives you blank space.
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO LABEL TWO SIZING FOR ONE ATTRIBUTE by user on gis.stackexchange.com
03:56
@bjb568 horizontal is life, bar is love~
THE BAR LITERALLY DOES WORSE THAN NOTHING
just zoom out then...
04:15
04:32
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Have A Soft and Charming Skin In 2 Weeks by Roxy Leon on askubuntu.com
04:48
How's my fullscreen program UI? devdoodle.net/dev/23
Go poke at it while I sleep…
cc @uni and @ProgramFOX
Night!
05:03
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: In the snatch face a 177 dealers smart by Rudolph Purser on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Skin Care Products by violet grub on meta.stackexchange.com
sd tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
05:20
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Introducing Core Criteria In Anti Aging Skin by shela botam on meta.stackexchange.com
sd tpu-
05:36
@Bart haha, you mean TMNBT but thanks anyway! :D
06:11
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Skincare Products For Acne by Jesse O Espinosa on meta.stackexchange.com
sd tpu-
06:31
@bjb568 the word-wrap property for normal chat messages is set to break-word, however, for what shog posted used the <pre> tag which has word-wrap property set to normal .... if you see full text of that message again, scroll it to the right and then search for it, you'll see a line filled with "---------" which causes the horizontal scroll..
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Building For Skinny Guys by Clifford Brooks on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Anti-Aging Cream Ought To Be Used Everyday by Ivut Mudu on askubuntu.com
sd tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
06:53
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: DLC and multiple profiles on one PS3 by user115327 on gaming.stackexchange.com
07:59
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website, repeating characters in body: How to use skin product? by kilzini juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
08:09
sd tpu-
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Moisturizer For Aging Skin by ruby hawk on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Using Natural Ingredients on your own skin is vital by cartermarybm on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
sd tpu-
is the fav-icon for chat changed? Why?
08:25
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: 3 Kansas he is me everyweek or so I' by afshii zzach on drupal.stackexchange.com
@HoboSapiens spammers are learning to use strong text
08:40
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE by iwasola22 on math.stackexchange.com
09:11
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Sunscreens are contained by plenty of Skin Care by Suewo Mucke on unix.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Many Natural Skin Care Suggestions by oore micha on superuser.com
09:28
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Easy to config Exchange mail on Android but not Outlook? by tonyl on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: what's varied as repairing their hurt cells surprisingly? by wilipajuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: A New Formula to shape You Younger? by kentoyod Oied on askubuntu.com
09:47
sd tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector that's... new
10:03
that comment...
(shouldnt try cleaning keyboard with chat in-focus)
should clean the keyboard plugged to the case...
disconnect keyboard before putting in the dishwasher....
separate all components of your system before using the dishwasher...
anyone want a bonus 250 rep on Meta?
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Q: Automatically dismiss a chat message on clicking the notification

cybermonkeyWhen I receive a reply/tag on chat, the 'notification bubble' must be clicked in order to dismiss the message: I have desktop notifications enabled, but however clicking the notification to go to the chat message does not dismiss it (from both within the same tab/window, and from other browser...

bounty for that's expiring in 9 hours
10:15
I don't have time...
@cybermonkey I don't even use desktop notifications, so I have no rights to comment :(
11:12
this made me laugh:
Hello, welcome to Math Stack Exchange. l I have made the text larger for your eyesight problem. Please don't add all caps question's again: they are very unpleasant to read for people with normal eyesight. To get a good answer, learn most and give users a indication of your level, please include your attempt to the question. — wythagoras 1 hour ago
11:30
sd fpu
@cybermonkey Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@cybermonkey Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@cybermonkey That message is not a report.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Do something beneficial to your skin by daine jerome on superuser.com
11:42
@SmokeDetector ignore
@rene Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
@SmokeDetector tpu-
12:14
room topic changed to Tavern on the Meta: MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF STARS! Wheel of blame link bolted on for your ease of use: jsfiddle.net/Ldvwp8uv/1/embedded/result [bug] [crickets] [discussion] [excuses] [support] [waffles]
12:30
Shouldn't we vote on that?
@rene on what?
On the room topic....
Inf was reverting the room toppic back to where it was before "it's uni's birthday".
Oh... so it isn't your birthday any more?
nope
I hosted simuls for my birthday, you can find them here: simultaneous exhibition 1, simultaneous exhibition 2
12:36
What do the tags on the end of the room topic do? I've never noticed any sort of tag based searching on chat rooms.
@PeterJ They allow the room to be searched in the search feature.
@Uni, whereabouts is there a network wide search somewhere?
@Unihedron cool, but...you lost most of them... :(
there is no such search
@rene thanks for reminding me
12:38
Np. you're welcome
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Is this charge-based build legal? by pureabsolute on rpg.stackexchange.com
@bjb568 Looks good, except I wouldn't expect a fullscreen view to have a scrollbar.
@SmokeDetector ignore no clue why you reported that
@rene Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
@rene "when the shit hit the fan"
12:49
very offensive indeed
ban all speech about fans
can't accept offensive speech here
Does that include Justin Bieber fans?
13:30
@SmokeDetector fp-, not that black magic
13:57
@rene no, they just include Bieber
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Useless crap ha no memory by Annoyed Droid on android.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@rene Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Notifications only for comments on your Facebook Page, not Likes by Cista Longerbam on webapps.stackexchange.com
user276632
14:14
Hi guys
user276632
Can I ask a question?
@Arrowfar Of course.
@anybody do mods see who the flagger of a post/comment is??
@Arrowfar no, you can only provide answers...
@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ posts, yes, comments, no
@Braiam thanks! :)
wonder why tho...?
user276632
14:20
@AstroCB Thanks. It is just that there is a mod who is always giving me a hard time here on SE (I don't want to say which SE) and their behaviour is very harassing. What can I do?
user276632
I am sorry to write this guys. But their behaviour takes a toll on my mind.
user276632
Although I am always polite with them.
user276632
Should I use the "contact SE" thingy?
What do you mean by "harassing"?
Are they just rude, or actively abusive in their interactions with users?
user276632
By that I mean their behaviour is very harsh and unkind.
user276632
14:22
@AstroCB Yes, but no one says anything.
This might help you @Arrowfar?
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Q: What recourse do I have if I believe a moderator has abused his/her privileges?

joeRecently, I had the following things happen to me on a StackExchange Site: One of my answers was locked, and a moderator left me some wrong comments (which spoil my name). Maybe I did that myself very long ago, but after my warning, I have not done any such thing. Check my records. How come mod...

user276632
I like the mod myself. I really do. But it is getting very annoying with time.
user276632
@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ Thanks!
Sometimes mods have to be strict to enforce the rules, but I'm pretty sure that being polite and level-headed is a requirement, so you might want to take look at that post.
user276632
Can I show you guys the messages here?
14:24
@Arrowfar welcome :)
user276632
I have been enduring her for quite some time now.
user276632
Please don't take offense, I just wanted to make a complaint here.
user276632
Here goes:
better don't
wait!
I said 'welcome' for the 'thanks'!
user276632
14:25
Oh, okay.
I don't really know whether you should post the messages here @Arrowfar
sorry :(
user276632
@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ Ah, okay.
user276632
So can I talk to someone in authority here privately? If it okay.
we are not SE's complaint room and with only one side of the story there is no way for us to correctly judge. Just contact the team and let one of the CM's handle it. Most importantly accept it's outcome
user276632
Okay, I'll email. Thanks all of you.
14:27
@Arrowfar If you've read the post I linked to, and sure you want to take this to a higher level, you can privately communicate with the SE team with the contact us link
Chat is not private!
user276632
okay, thanks.
Or, if you just want to complain to the ether:

Whining Room

This room is for whining in. All manner of QQ will be tolerated.
lol
user276632
Heh!
14:29
3 people just entered that room! @AstroCB :P
user276632
Me too :)
14:40
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Antonym of nomad by Bizi Very on english.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector settler?
@SmokeDetector tpu-
user276632
14:56
Okay I sent my email. Thanks for the tips.
user276632
Bye.
*waves*
15:18
Morning!
@Dronehinge Every line is wrapped. It looks like this is done by JS. There is nothing right of the visible box. I tried with Safari, Chrome, and FF.
Is this VLQ/NAA?
both
@vaultah meh, just vtd the whole question
15:34
I will, out of votes for today
> Writing way too many lines of code processing the DOM.
But that's exactly what JS is for…
Idiots.
Only people who can't write their own code blindly accept someone else's.
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@bjb568 Welcome to Stack Overflow.
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How to show a code table with the huffman tree by rottenbanana on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ELECTRIC FIELD AND MAGNETIC FIEALD by PENTAKOTA SAI CHAITANYA PRASAD on physics.stackexchange.com
already did it!
@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ I am also talking same but via site.stackexchange.com/tags
@Pandya OK - added in
@ProgramFOX someone already indented it...
oh...
still no improvement whatsoever anyway
16:14
@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ ok let's clear comments
@Pandya K
@SmokeDetector ignore-
I'm not quite sure about this answer. Does it warrant any action?
not sure, ask the people in the MSE tavern
wait
:O
@vaultah I can't make sense of either the answer or the comment... JS doesn't have grep, AFAIK
16:22
I think they meant jQuery's grep
yeah, watching that
ITT: People can't maths.
Idiots.
I know it isn't just buzzfeed doing it for show, there are people who are that stupid.
I'm just going to throw out the abundance speech card and say that buzzfeed is doing it for show and whether there are people who are that stupid is insignificant as long as you don't have to meet one.
I am surprised when found meta chat login working fine instead of normal!! @ meta.stackexchange.com/q/251351/260388
17:08
I find it interesting that they made it IceCat, like from FireFox.
17:28
@ProgramFOX So I should make the canvas height be like innerHeight - console.offsetHeight - 16?
@bjb568 Not sure what that exactly does, but if it avoids the scrollbar that looks like a good thing.
Basically, make the canvas height smaller so it doesn't overflow :p
oh, okay :p
17:56
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: The most active fields of mathematics? by Swapnava Chaudhuri on math.stackexchange.com
@ProgramFOX Is it acceptable for it to start scrolling when new things are added to the console?
… or should it resize the canvas in that situation?
Scrolling should be fine, because otherwise the canvas might get too small.
18:35
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Custom admin email for new user registration by David Pearce on wordpress.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector ignore-
user259867
@bjb568 If you are writing in JS, you are blindly accepting a bunch of C++ code that will be processing yours.
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user259867
Or whatever the browser's engine happens to be written in.
@ProgramFOX Fixed as of #213
user259867
I don't know of any browsers written in JavaScript...
18:39
@HomegrownTomato Yeah, I don't know C++.
fewer operating systems
almost no firmware
JavaScript developers who can't write JS are totally incompetent. JavaScript developers who can't write C++ are, well, normal.
But hey, accepting that the code with unfettered access to your hardware is safe sight-unseen is one thing; accepting someone else's logic right next to yours in the sandbox? That's just creepy.
18:40
Ton of C++ programmers who don't know much about JS, btw.
And plenty who are adept at both
@Shog9 I know C++, VB.NET, Lua, etc, but JS. No Sir!
If you can write C++ and JS, you have no excuse as to not writing your own OS, server app, and server code. Well, of course you could just help with open-source OS and server app too, if you're into that kind of thing.
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW SHOULD I FIX THIS PROGRAM? by Manav Modi on stackoverflow.com
What if you're not really hep to network stacks?
That's like a whole field all on its own
18:43
Why and who upvoted this?? — cybermonkey 16 secs ago
sd ignore
@Dronehinge Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
Humph, if you don't know how to do something that you don't need to know how to do, using other people hardware/software is fine.
> If you're developing a computer game where the plot is your competitive advantage, it's OK to use a third party 3D library. But if cool 3D effects are going to be your distinguishing feature, you had better roll your own.
18:45
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: PHP barcode validation library by spoondocz on stackoverflow.com
you REALLY hate that question, eh cyber?
@Shog9 I do.
(retracted just now)
@Dronehinge If Smokey doesn't catch a post, it can be manually reported with !!/report <post URL>
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Can you solve this integration. by nari on math.stackexchange.com
18:47
@SmokeDetector tp oh dear
@cybermonkey Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@Shog9 Wow, that's great.
something something idea reuse
> Turn this from the spam-friendly "recommend me a thing" into the programming-related "how can I do this thing?"
oh you
@Shog9 damnit
18:50
meh
It seems to violate the "don't go against OP's intentions", but I'd accept that on DD.
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Unless the OP's intentions were to ask a question that would be closed unanswered, I think I was pretty respectful there.
@Shog9 starts search and put the first result as answer
there are a few possible dup-targets, but IMHO they're crap.
Pay them minimum wage and give only state-mandated breaks.
18:53
@cybermonkey what happens when you use other people's dishwashers :p
mm... I'm only hitting how to generate, but read/validate nope
@HomegrownTomato and if you eat at a restaurant or buy food from the store and eat it; you are blindly eating food in which you don't know who processed it , who they got it from, etc
user259867
@Shog9 The name of that html file is rather thoroughly future-proof.
18:57
@bjb568 once you reach 10k rep on DD you get the privilege of starting over at 0
Everyone starts out at 10K on DD. Once you reach 0, you earn the privilege to ask questions.
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> I guess that explained why Excel had its own C compiler.
oh...
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CARRIER SMS GATEWAY by Odame Prince on superuser.com
sd tp-
user259867
19:02
> I'm pretty sure I've just devised a whole new way to make spammers and trolls hate me even more. -- Tim Post at 10:10 AM - 13 Jun 2015 via Twitter
user259867
Sounds promising.
user259867
I guess it's a JS library for channeling spam/offensive flags into electric shocks.
So now we have , , and .
I can't help but think that those aren't all necessary.
Maybe for hardware problems and for software? I don't think we need a tag for the OS that runs on the watch.
user259867
19:11
Any idea why the answerer got no rep for this accepted answer? patents.stackexchange.com/a/13014/11728 (Their rep was 1 until I upvoted another answer of theirs)
caching? Spam penalty?
interesting, it's shown on their reputation history: patents.stackexchange.com/users/14387/…
@AstroCB Why do we need a tag specifically for hardware?
@bjb568 We have , don't we?
@HomegrownTomato asking on Meta, interesting case.
19:15
@AstroCB normally those are "I'm using an iPhone"
user259867
Accept was 4 hours ago... spam penalty within that period appears unlikely, especially given their answers are pretty good.
But iPhone has different software features than iPad, so it makes sense.
user259867
I was just happy to see someone participating in Ask Patents at all...
Accelerometers, speakers, etc.
If there were two devices running watchOS, there could be two hardware tags too.
19:16
@bjb568 aren't those features accessible from the API/ABI anyways?
@AstroCB I have a feeling watch-os will get used on everything related to watching... better get rid of it before my predication becomes true...
@Braiam Not sure.
@rene Working on it...
try (accelerometerget()){do stuff} {else fail}
@rene Just rejected an edit creating the tag; I wasn't fast enough...
19:19
pfff
instagram…
if you haven't notice, soundcloud tagging sucks
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Q: Why didn't this user get no reputation for an accepted answer?

cybermonkeyA user on Tavern on the Meta noticed that on a question on Ask Patents, the user whose answer was accepted didn't get the +15 reputation associated with it: ...but however the reputation is listed in their reputation tab: According to their reputation tab, they should have 56 reputation on ...

@HomegrownTomato there we have it
19:34
if someone wants the +250 rep, they need to answer ASAP: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/257912/…
@rene The person who created the tag keeps rolling back my edits; probably not worth the trouble.
user259867
19:50
@SmokeDetector fp-
@HomegrownTomato Here's your answer: meta.stackexchange.com/a/258643/255735
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