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12:00 AM
so @FOX9000 !!/kill won’t work?
aren’t they being oddly quiet?
@yellowantphil you can ignore
@yellowantphil it's saturday, even spammers need r&r
@yellowantphil What is that I don't even.
+1 ridiculous
−2 way off topic
12:51 AM
ok question how should we handle questions like this:
complete homework question, that has no redeeming value for anyone
and an OP that has a "screw you guys" attitude
Close and downvote?
I don’t see a problem yet
so what we did
sounds good
the student looks like he’s just upset that nobody will give him the answers to his homework
@yellowantphil And it's closed as 'too broad'. LOL
12:56 AM
I want it closed as “too awesome for Stack Overflow to comprehend”
@Mgetz ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻ ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
@ASCIIThenANSI pretty much
@yellowantphil I think it's way too meta for stack overflow to comprehend, how do you wrap your mind around a dartboard that is the universe
@Mgetz What if any dartboard works, because 'bulls-eye' is just an arbitrary constraint?
@ASCIIThenANSI oooh, touche...
bull’s-eye == tip of the dart
1:01 AM
@yellowantphil nah, you have to phrase it as a radius from the location the dart hits
function isBulleye(double x, double y, double z) { return true; }
@Mgetz The return shots were just as bad; that "Mommy and Daddy" crap was flaggably inappropriate, and still is. The account was destroyed.
@tchrist we noticed, LRIO was not proud of that
But does dartboard have applications in program?
i have a bartboard
1:04 AM
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 5 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@Mgetz oh please don't draw attention to it; I took the bait and I was kinda hoping to keep that quiet :P
we all get baited from time to time
I think LRIO is having a bad day
Or that guy was a... Wait for it... Master bai... Nevermind.
@JasonC just say "simon cowel imitator" it means the same thing
The way to design a dartboard such that you always hit a bulleye is simple: stand at the very center of a giant dartboard which is flat on the ground and throw a dart wherever you please. Since each concentric circle is a league further out, you cannot fail to hit a bullseye.
@tchrist or a spherical dartboard, where the inside of the sphere is the bullseye
just needs 2 more dv's stackoverflow.com/a/1635887/3041194 cc: @hic
1:10 AM
I thought of that, too. It's the old problem of guaranteeing that any step you take will take you north.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Is it possible to complete Shelter without losing any cubs? by fmjuh on gaming.stackexchange.com
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@tchrist I can’t wait for you to justify writing “bulleye”
@yellowantphil Do not provoke me. It will not end well.
@tchrist it ended well last time
1:12 AM
I can help this person out, but his question is being downvoted. Should I answer this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/30009204/is-sizeof-a-keyword
@Roombatron5000 One more.
@2mk ^
thanks all, completed
@Mgetz The one answer there is wrong (to the extent of my knowledge, anyways.)
@ASCIIThenANSI it's been 8 years since I've used java on a regular basis, so I can't say
@yellowantphil Opinions are like _________: everyone has one. Most people know better than to flaunt one of those in public, let alone both. Now that we've seen both from you, do be civil and put your pants back on.
1:15 AM
thanks all, completed
@Mgetz The answer itself doesn't matter, it's whether or not I should answer it.
@tchrist such starbait
@Mgetz Star ALL the messages!
Q: sizeof java object

daydreamerHow can we find out the size of a java object?? Example: class Person{ String name; int age; public Person(String n, int a){ name = n; age = a; } } Person person = new Person("Andy", 30); now how can I know the size of person object?? Tha...

@Roombatron5000 I’m surprised nobody is upvoting when you post those
1:17 AM
possible dupe of that?
@Roombatron5000 Why aren't those questions deleted in complete?
Looks like nothing of value in there.
Not quite. That one asks how to find the size of an object. The other asks if sizeof is a keyword. Although the root problem might be the same, who knows.
@TimWolla you mean why aren't they deleted already? They'll delete in a couple hours when roomba runs.
I just down voted for lack of research then moved on.
@JasonC then my close vote will be ignored
1:20 AM
@Roombatron5000 Ah, that auto deletion thingy?
and then after the roomba roombs, we get our rep back for downvoting answers
@TimWolla yep
Yeah but dont downvote answers just to help out roomba. That's lame. Just delete vote the question.
@JasonC lots of us don't have delete votes yet
Then its not your problem to handle.
1:22 AM
don’t listen to Jason
@JasonC I delete voted the question as well.
users may vote however they like
@JasonC not much difference than asking cv-plz on things
@Shog9 Can you please explain to everybody how downvoting answers just for roomba is whack? I'm sick of talking about it.
I mean if they're crap answers then yeah.
they are
all of them
1:23 AM
@JasonC an answer recommended Drupal for CMS question, not much value there
But if you wouldn't take the same action if roomba didn't exist, then dont take the action.
imagines life without roomba
decides SO is boring. logs off and proceeds to clean office
@JasonC Would you really recommend SO as a VB.Net forum?
Yeah, probably.
@JasonC votes are limited resource, best to use them wisely, just like close votes.. would you vote to close a question that you knew 100% for fact wouldn't end up closed?
that's a wasted vote (yes there is such a thing)
1:26 AM
Yes. Because if I CV it the chance drops below 100%.
My votes are never a waste, even if nobody agrees. Its how I state my opinion.
Notice the badges awarded for deleting posts.
Bbl dryers done.
user image
1:30 AM
gone, ty
@tchrist I guess it landed safe … I hope.
@tchrist 3 people in the image. That's a Geico commercial. Geico has 5 letters. 3 + 5 = 8. The tortured cat has 4 legs. 8 * 4 = 32. The cat is in a green field. "Green" is 5 letters long. 32 - (5 * 4) = 32 - 20 = 12. (The 4 comes from the cat's legs, which will soon be in the field.) But wait! The woman in the middle is wearing a blue shirt. "Blue" has 4 letters. 12 / 4 = 3.
Half-Life 3 is confirmed.
@ASCIIThenANSI isn't it esurance?
Damn you towels
1:35 AM
@Roombatron5000 I thought it was Geico.
no, i think they used that commercial to diss geico , like "geico- it's not how insurance works anymore) .. haven't seen it in a while though
@Roombatron5000 Still, replace 'is a Geico commercial' with 'Geico was made fun of in this commercial', and HL3 is still confirmed.
just think if insurance companies used all their adversting money to pay out claims instead.. everyone better off
@Roombatron5000 have you noticed the decline in healthcare insurance ads since Obamacare? That's because they have to spend 80% of premiums on care
@Mgetz i haven't noticed any decline personally
1:45 AM
I don't watch TV. All my information is directly through the internet, connected by the tube in my spine.
I am also a robot.
2:06 AM
2:18 AM
:( SEDE hasn't updated yet.
Go poke somebody.
Q: jQuery 'Whack-A-Mole'-type game issue

LuminousBeingsAreWeI'm creating a Whack-A-Mole type of game for my Javascript class. I've been trying to figure out how to make it so that the user can only click the "mole" once. As it is right now, I can repeatedly click the "mole" as it fades out. The "moles" are added in dynamically so I couldn't seem to get .o...

@ASCIIThenANSI I too look forward to a future where we have the technology to establish direct neural links to tubgirl, goatse.cx, lemon party, and 2 girls 1 cup.
@AstroCB Based on some of the related questions, I wonder if we should have
2:33 AM
@hichris123 Last update was after Sunday 6 am (UTC), which is typical. It's more than 24 hours until the update time.
I have a new whack-a-mole game you should all play: sift through the list of Suggested Edits that wind up being marked Controversial looking for mistakes, and roll back any you find which are clearly whacked. You will be doing your Community a service.
@2mkgz Uh... it is Sunday UTC.
You know what would be cool? Modern games in text-based representations.
SE is just such a game.
@tchrist jaw drops
2:39 AM
It’s the controversial approvals that need closer scrutiny, because they are the ones that change a post in error. Controversial rejections that are wrong make nothing worse. I’m finding an error rate of at least one in ten, maybe worse.
@tchrist The page you're trying to visit requires the privilege “access moderator tools.”
I am sad now.
If you have a favorite posting of yours I can upvote, would that help a little? :)
Thanks for the clarification! This helps. I'll be sure to reword my questions so they are not too broad and keep to the point. The going south comment was from information read from many different prior users. I assume they were just unhappy. Again thanks for the clarification you did help me understand more, the purpose of the site. — Joe VanHorn 28 secs ago
That's new – a disenchanted user who isn't mad about someone telling them that Stack Overflow isn't ending in an apocalyptic firestorm.
@tchrist Nah, I'm just messing around. Really, there's not much I have on the site, aside from a couple good code golfs, and one interesting question over on Arqade.
@AstroCB Are... are they learning? Have we done it?
@ASCIIThenANSI Great success!
2:47 AM
@JasonC Hooray!
@AstroCB apoplectic shitstormapocalyptic firestorm
I really wish there were a way to filter on just the tag wiki suggested edits.
People do such ugly things there.
This one I did a double-take on seeing Jon Ericson appear to approve it: :)
But it wasn’t really him. :)
No, I’m not rolling that one back, although I tend to agree with the minority report.
Man, what is it with SO people rejecting spelling corrections as too minor?! I don’t think correcting a dozen-plus orthographic infelicities all in a single post should count as “too minor”. Broken windows, guys, broken windows.
@tchrist If you're having problems with that, try rewording it better and call it 'improved grammar'
@tchrist My favorite ones are the one-character "typo fixes" that actually change it to an incorrect spelling and then add [This is for the character limit] at the bottom.
3:01 AM
@ASCIIThenANSI Oh, they can’t reject my edits. :) I’m auditing controversial ones.
@AstroCB Yeah, those are annoying.
Have you noticed how disgusting tinypic is? Not just banner ads, also autoplaying video.
The links to the images there appear to be direct (with .png or .jpg extension), but that's a lie.
My point is: stackoverflow.com/search?q=url%3Atinypic brings up 5000+ results.
@2mkgz It's everywhere.
3:04 AM
If there was a bot to edit those posts re-uploading images to stack.imgur...
But manual edits are usually better anyway, an opportunity to fix up other things.
@2mkgz Or, we could just do it ourselves, and gain all the rep! Problem, system?
Yep, that's my plan. :)
@2mkgz prime adblock candidate
3:06 AM
@2mkgz In fact, how do you upload to stack.imgur? Because I want some rep. And a lot of it.
@ASCIIThenANSI Add image -> from the web -> enter direct URL
I really wanna bonk people who approve crap that just adds random backticks all over the stupid posting to make it look like a ransom note. Seriously.
@2mkgz So just add an image link and SE takes care of the rest?
@hichris123 Ugh, flagged and then an edit was made. Now it's gonna be declined.
@tchrist interesting userscript idea
If you’re going to edit, fricking really edit and make it better. Don’t go all fugly on the fonting and leave the rest of it a disaster.
3:09 AM
@ASCIIThenANSI Yes; but you need the real, direct URL to the image. Can be found by visiting the ad-infested site and copying image URL.
@2mkgz Eww... I'm having second thoughts. On the other hand, free internet points. Hmm...
It’s bad enough that somebody tries to do this in the first place, but that it gets approved proves to me that these are robo-approvals damn them all.
Hey, can we get some edit audits?
I mean, like ringers to catch them doing stupid things?
Or is that too hard to set up?
We do
I thought so.
@2mkgz Yeah, I'm not doing it. It's bad enough that this exists, but now I can't find the actual URL?
3:12 AM
We have some... blatant audits.
I wish there were audit challenges for the ransom-note problem.
Those could be constructed programmatically.
Ok, this is tiring.
I had to go fix it all by hand. And it’s a lame closable question.
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Well, he’s trying to help.
I guess most have been approved. Just some of the short ones people didn’t like.
Who else likes the new 'people reached' feature?
@tchrist I learned to love all the same, and whack them with all the love I have for them
3:26 AM
@ASCIIThenANSI As long as it isn’t reached out to.
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Is that the real smokey?
3:47 AM
Okay, it is definitely less unfun going through the ELU controversial suggestions than through the SO ones. Because the SO ones people never ever do enough to make the posting better.
I’m not saying either is fun. But SO is uglier because people more seem to just be trying to rep whore, not to help make postings better.
Yes, it happens everywhere. Still.
I think we need an Invigilator badge.
@tgm1024 well, if they feel bad is their prerogative. We shouldn't go tiptoeing just to be careful we don't hurt someone's feeling. The question just doesn't meet Stack Overflow quality standards and isn't within the scope of expertise Stack Overflow aims to offer. That's all there is. If they feel bad or not, that's not our interest. — Braiam 10 secs ago
yet another "we shouldn't hurt OP feelings" discussion
@SmokeDetector tpu spam
@2mkgz Blacklisted user.
An implausible username, too.
4:29 AM
@Roombatron5000 It's fairly feasible these days to ward yourself again virtually all aggressive, abusive spamvertising. If you are one of the many who have done this, it might as well be dark matter for how much it affects you.
@hichris123 usually is completed around 6-9 AM UTC Sunday
//translate en es? O sea que quieres que lo traduzca a castellano? de veras?
@tchrist *against?
@Roombatron5000 yes
4:44 AM
@tchrist yea.. i bet they even have advertising directed at unborn babies in pregnant women shows now a days
Just ditch 100% of commercial/unfiltered TV and radio, run an ad blocker, and live somewhere that makes billboards illegal.
5:54 AM
@Unihedron Are you sure you don't mean 'murder viciously'?
Also, killed.
the fact that there are ~500 items in the H&I queue makes me worried
6:10 AM
Why? A large number of review tasks is needed so that tag filtering is practical.
Since the tasks drop out of that queue with age, its size is under SE control: adjusting parameters will make it smaller or larger.
And the queue is mostly a PR move anyway, so who cares.
@2mkgz is just not a realistic number
I bet only a fraction of those would actually be fixed into a desirable state
7:20 AM
I wish we could have the lacks minimal understanding close reason back, it would be perfect..
7:43 AM
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@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user.
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2:16 PM
Afternoon !
Is... this NAA?
A: What type of gem is this?

Kotun D.How is it found meaning what is like to know what to clarify on this same resources what is do call that once more,,

I can't even comprehend it.
2:20 PM
VLQ Certainly.
@hichris123 yeah, looks more like a comment asking the OP to clarify something
Oh yeah. My third gold badge on Stack Overflow :-)
TIL voting in Russian must be unanimous or else people will think it's fishy -- just the opposite of everywhere else.
Q: Constantly voting not like others in review queues

AthariAre there any rules against constantly voting not like others in review queues? If yes, do the rules apply only to sites where they are enforced by the engine, in the form of review audits*, or are they universal and apply to all sites in the Stack Exchange network, including beta sites where re...

Rules? Why there no rules to stop terrible thing?
I don't think I would enjoy SE con salsa Putineska, thank you very much.
I disag.. oh, wait, are there mods here?
2:34 PM
also glares
glares at @bjb for unwarranted glaring
In Russia, the votes glare at the voters.
glares back at everyone
And take naughty-and-nice notes.
I wonder whether he shall be unsurprised if all the votes on his question go the same way. Or don't.
2:55 PM
blacklist candidate ecouponcode.org
3:19 PM
Hm, maybe he is asking for rules about moderator-imposed review bans, not the automatic ones from failled programmed audits. I doubt you will get 100% agreement by all mods on this sort of thing, because it has to be handled on a case-by-case basis and involves human judgement not ironclad rules.
But... russia is all about ironclad rules
No, that's Germany, where the children are watching. :) Russia is all about unwritten de facto rules created at whim by whoever is currently in power and which nobody is ever sure of.
Austria might have been an even better example than Germany.
Are you guys discussing politics again?
3:25 PM
@bjb568 What's LTF?
Uh oh, somebody said germany while talking about review.
@Unihedron learn to fly
... k
You can play ltf2 now.
@bjb568 No, about human judgement versus automatic zappage.
I had a bug, I'm sorry ... too many requests from this IP, more requests available in 66978 seconds
3:28 PM
@rene lol I did that once.
Ran a cronjob every second instead of every minute.
@tchrist consistently doing so (going against the community consensus about the scope) is worrying
I suppose I am going to have to update my answer to mention the human factor in mod decisions compared with the algorthmic rules of failed audits.
@Braiam It may be. But I would not trust an algorithm to make a call on that. I would prefer a human(e) exception handler.
@hichris123 Not as bad as doing a network request every 60 milliseconds instead of doing every 60 seconds...
@ProgramFOX What's the prefix for a sixtieth of a second?
3:33 PM
I verified that setTimeout takes milliseconds as its second parameter and the backoff is in seconds....
@tchrist I... have no idea.
So one tick of something running a 60 hz.
@bummi added to the ever-growing list of blacklisted websites ;)
3:34 PM
tries to think of something sexy
A sexagesimosecond?
@tchrist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_of_arc pretty sure there aint one
@tchrist Now that's something I'm going to use when I want nobody to understand what I'm talking about.
3:35 PM
@tchrist I think there are auto flags for moderator attention if the result of review tasks doesn't align with the way you acted in X% of times
@tchrist It's easier if you go on trips with middle s… oh never mind
@hichris123 tl;dr: cv-pls
@ProgramFOX thanks, btw, you know DragonLords list? meta.superuser.com/questions/9249/…
3:36 PM
@Braiam :P
@bummi No, I'll check it out.
@ProgramFOX Every Romance speaker would instantly know that 60 were involved, although it is unclear whether it is *60 ot /60.
@bummi All of 'em are in except the latest edit. cc @ProgramFOX.
So rev 13 should be added.
@hichris123 Ok, I'll add the latest rev then.
3:38 PM
@hichris123 thanks, good to know.
@bjb568 Degrees, minutes, seconds make up a sexagesimal system, right?
... Whoa.
I've stopped saving up for the most expensive drone and just bought as many Stingers as I could, and instantly got enough territory to buy three Expansions.
3:41 PM
all blacklisted sites added
shot dead :)
fine :)
@hichris123 Hammered that one
3:46 PM
My work is done.
Thanks to all. :)
lol, this will help to get to the moon
No worry they said. Fly with a brick I will.
^ Quick please. So many bad answers :-(
yeah, yeah... I'm coming
@hichris123 How got that accepted?

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