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4:00 PM
@hichris123 are questions spam seeds??
 
@Unihedron yeah.
@TimWolla Both q & a are posted by spammers.
 
-> INOMA?
 
Does anyone know if there's a stackexchange where a question about identifying the format of and decoding the data contained in a section of audio would be appropriate?
reverseengineering.stackexchange.com maybe?
 
@Acorn Sound.SE?
 
@Acorn Isn't that for apps?
 
4:06 PM
> for sound engineers, producers, editors, and enthusiasts.
 
I was thinking sound maybe, but it's only really related to sound in so much as that's the storage medium of the data
 
My current keyboard sucks...
 
With that logic I doubt it belongs anywhere :)
My prediction is that it either belongs on sound.se or nowhere :p
 
well.. it's more a question of data/old-computing-technology/app recommendations
 
Eh, with a scope like that, it wouldn't be a good question anywhere :p
It's hard to be answered.
 
4:08 PM
maybe HAM radio types would know about this kind of thing..
 
You could poke around chat rooms for advice on solving your problem, I guess.
 
you have used elseif i think you need else if a space beteen two words. — Harsh Joshi 1 min ago
Those comments make me cry :-(
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That's Harsh
 
13 hours ago, by AstroCB
That's new – a disenchanted user who isn't mad about someone telling them that Stack Overflow isn't ending in an apocalyptic firestorm.
 
@JanDvorak I think you need a new keyboard. :P
 
4:13 PM
Unfortunately, it appears that that very same question has attracted another doomsayer:
@AstroCB, Ok, it's not a fight I'm willing to wage at this particular moment....there's too much of it going on right now. In general though, I wish more engineers at SO took to heart this well thought out observation for where SO and StackExchange as a whole is heading. It didn't use to be this way here. — tgm1024 1 min ago
 
I have one but it doesn't fit next to my bed very well
 
"It didn't use to be this way here"
> Member for 5 months
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Am I old enough to be qualified for doomsaying?
 
Y'know, whatever happened to Shog's proposal for the roomba?
 
4:18 PM
I hope it didn't got roomba'd, that would suck.
 
same as every FR - ignored by the devs
 
*FR
@Shog9 Whatever happened to your roomba proposal?
 
Hold on. I don't have an up arrow key
 
@tgm1024: Thanks for your professional and expertise regarding the situation, as a member longer than four months. However, I'm not sure how linking to a known low-quality rant is going to back up your point in any way. — Unihedron 9 secs ago
I couldn't stand it.
#defendsocialjustice
 
Well, this should end interestingly.
 
4:20 PM
Popcorn time, methinks. But I do have work to do...
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: Medians Help (Triangles) by hooga booga on math.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@AstroCB Blacklisted user.
 
Why do people do this?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Healthy Quick Weight Loss Today by site googlee on superuser.com
 
4:23 PM
Hi site googlee!
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@hichris123 Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
user259867
@JanDvorak More likely, got stuck in a debate within CoGro Team.
 
user259867
> Most of us have at one point or another found these meetings to be... Draining. No matter how polite the actual conversation might be, you're effectively standing up before a group of people you trust and respect while they tell you that your idea is confusing, unnecessary, and possibly detrimental to the future of the system and the company.
 
user259867
From here
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector my PC is "SHIT". but needs an edit
 
edited by Rory ><
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/30016290/error-express-yeoman oh boy. Why screenshots for error messages?
 
> I am back
welcome back, please don't post Lq questions
 
@2mkgz mine is shit, but I don't let her kno... ups
 
4:35 PM
-1
Q: Error express-yeoman

Juan Sebastian MorionesI am back working on "yeoman" and "express" and the truth just want to create a new project with "yeoman" but I get this Over here I leave a picture:

OMG
gnat, I TRUSTED YOU
 
drops by the Whiteboard and asks: WTF happened here programmers.stackexchange.com/posts/281823/revisions
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ok I just did
 
Well, that was a lot of work. It does make you wonder though about someone giving a pass on a question related to illegal activity.
(I rewrote my answer.)
 
@JanDvorak Probably everyone in here already saw this question :-)
 
4:40 PM
Then why isn't it closed?
 
Don't ask me. But 2 links + yours should certainly have been enough.
 
@JanDvorak probs out of cv's
 
@Unihedron I was going to CV, and then I remembered I was out of CV's.
 
;) I know you
too well
 
yup. :P
 
4:43 PM
FINALLY
 
also, do I owe you codez?
 
me?
 
Nah, nvm
i have no idea what i'm doing
so tired :P
 
night @Uni. ;)
 
4:46 PM
night :p
 
@Unihedron just click things
 
oops I broke the internet
 
Can anybody think of a sort of datafile that's reasonably well known and whose records are all fairly regular but which is not XML/SGML/HTML? I've already thought of the normal Unix examples of the passwd file or the termcap file or the utmp or acct files, and of a mailbox that's just a sequence of mail headers and bodies. I have a million examples involving telecom call-data-records and financial ACH records (NACHA files), but I’m looking for stuff more generally known.
 
JSON
 
YAML
 
4:47 PM
No, flatter.
Both of those won't work.
 
CSV?
 
ASDF
 
more precise plz
 
Well, yes.
 
.properties
 
4:47 PM
CSV of course works but this is too vague.
 
XHTML?
 
What are ".properties"?
 
any fixed-width format
 
Not nested.
 
.properties is a file extension for files mainly used in Java related technologies to store the configurable parameters of an application. They can also be used for storing strings for Internationalization and localization; these are known as Property Resource Bundles. Each parameter is stored as a pair of strings, one storing the name of the parameter (called the key), and the other storing the value. == Format == Each line in a .properties file normally stores a single property. Several formats are possible for each line, including key=value, key = value, key:value, and key value. .properties...
 
4:48 PM
It can be fixed width or separated, binary or text.
 
What are you trying to achieve?
 
.ini - just a flat list of key-value pairs
 
Did you try to ask a question on Stack Overflow, yet?
 
.txt?
 
@TimWolla "Resource recommendation closure"
 
4:49 PM
@Unihedron, I've been using stackoverflow for a very long time. I was very impressed and a very happy anonymous user of the information....until I started seeing it take a dramatic turn for the worst. I started seeing question after question flagged as duplicate, when it wasn't, and no end of pedantic stances made. I saw ego driven commentary show up, and the original charter of SO (and SE) trashed. I started seeing questions hover at 0 rep for a while and then as soon as ONE downvote showed up, many downvotes would show up in a flurry. So I decided to join a short time ago. — tgm1024 23 secs ago
@Unihedron You've started a flamewar.
 
@TimWolla too broad
 
@JanDvorak ;)
 
Oh no, a question was closed as a dupe.
 
But: hichris is out of CVs. So his question probably would stay open
 
What I am trying to achieve is to provide some public examples for some classes I'm publishing. These are generalized format-definition classes, and while I have literally hundreds of proprietary examples of these which have been used for in the telecom and finance realms, I have merely six or so that I can include as examples, and they are all lame normal Unix files.
 
4:50 PM
I swear I wrote a meta post on why dupe closures are actually good.
@TimWolla :P
 
> I started seeing questions hover at 0 rep for a while and then as soon as ONE downvote showed up, many downvotes would show up in a flurry.
"questions hover at 0 rep"
 
OK. I can't sleep now. Someone is wrong on the Internet.
 
@tchrist literally hundreds? Can I see the list?
 
When you read records of a telecomm switch, you get millions of these.
 
!xkcd find wrong on the Internet
 
4:51 PM
 
@JanDvorak Yes, literally hundreds. And no, I probably cannot show you the list. Think of various types of call data records, just as one example. SIP stuff. Things coming off switches. Or NACHA files transmitted to payment processors.
 
@tchrist Couldn't you randomize the data?
 
These are very detailed with strict definitions. Must fancier than anything in Unix.
@hichris123 Just listing the class types might be an NDA violation. I don't know. I should think about some of the bio records I used to handle maybe.
 
@tgm1024 Now it's my turn: I've been using Stack Overflow for a relatively short time compared to the caretakers I meet. I was very depressed at the low question quality on the main site - I had to constantly answer bad questions while linking to resources so they can read a basic tutorial, which reveals their incompetence to even debug a simple program. I answered more close-worthy questions than I even feel comfortable admitting to. I asked my first question anxiously, only to find that it was a duplicate. I honestly voted to close it and asked people in the Tavern to help close it for me. — Unihedron 8 secs ago
 
Anybody in Big Data goes through billions of these, and they do not use XML or JSON or YAML. Well, not and live.
 
4:54 PM
@tchrist gotcha.
 
@Unihedron, I don't have a dislike for the community, I have a dislike what the disease that seems to have infected it. That "known low quality rant" you talk about? It's clear and well written, and take it to heart. That you can't immediately understand what it's saying isn't a shock to me. — tgm1024 1 min ago
This is getting good.
 
@Unihedron replace "incompetence" with "first stage of the four stage of competence
 
It's not really low-quality per se, some of it is just wrong.
 
Sam
grabs popcorn
 
4:56 PM
Once upon a time, it was ordained that certain switches should emit XML records only. The data-processing requirements caused such a melt-down at all levels even at merely 10 billion events a day that a new and much more reasonable format was created that was super-smaller and much more easily recoverable in the face of error than anything like XML could ever be. And all was well in the kingdom again. This has been a fairtytale, and it did not happen.
 
grabs Sam
realises his mistake, apologises
 
@Braiam Ugh, I hate character lim
 
Or so my friend reports.
 
!!xkcd find assume
 
That rant is the third result for a Google search of "Stack Overflow"; it must be linked to quite often.
 
4:58 PM
!xkcd find when you assume
 
Thanks @xkcdBot :]
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Ok, leaving now. They can make fun of themselves all they want if they insist in engaging, I've said all I want at this point. :p
 
This is the sort of stuff I mean, with specs: CDR format, NACHA format.
These are very different from anything like XML or JSON or even CSV. And they make INI files look like pattycake.
I do have class definitions for those two types, but it was work-for-hire so those classes are proprietary although the framework is free software. I'm looking for more examples of complicated records to include as examples with the framework.
I don’t know how to ask on any SE site for this without it being Too Broad. If anyone can think of where such a question might be well-received, I would love to know.
 
... notprogrammingrelated?
 
@tchrist Yahoo Answers? Quora?
 
5:08 PM
Sheesh.
 
@tgm1024 You're missing the point; if we kept the same principles that were present at the beginning of the site, it would be gone by now, or at least in a very different position. Moderation policy and what's on-topic has to adapt over time to fit the changing community and audience. Sure, the site's moderation policy has become more strict over time, but that's because there's more of a reason for it to be with 4.2 million users. — AstroCB 16 secs ago
 
@Unihedron Sure seems very programming-related to me.
 
This is getting ridiculous.
 
9 mins ago, by Unihedron
Ok, leaving now. They can make fun of themselves all they want if they insist in engaging, I've said all I want at this point. :p
I'd feel like I'm insulting myself if I write another post when they clearly aren't sane
pfft :p
 
> But meta doesn't matter
 
user259867
5:09 PM
@tchrist Data Science?
 
Meta is an ironic place to leave that comment.
 
@2mkgz Cool, never heard of that!
It occurs to me that asking frontenders for inherently backend examples was probably not my cleverest move.
 
@tgm1024 "But meta doesn't matter" ... Sir, your premise is flawed. If none of this matters, this site wouldn't be discussed and directly refined based on feedback by the community itself. The system works. I don't object that you're not alone on your point, but there are more people on the other sided, not that you're wrong. — Unihedron 6 secs ago
ok my last
 
If your position is that the site is actually improving over time, you're completely mistaken. And the number of users isn't a determining metric. If the a site caters to and REWARDS the basal instincts of human foibles (such as the anti-social behavior involved in pedantic decisions), or by appealing to ego, then of course it'll gain members. It doesn't mean that the percentage of unhappy folks isn't going up, and contend it is. There is a lot of hurt feelings out there. — tgm1024 14 secs ago
I'm out.
 
user259867
automatic flags on comments with >5% bold text.
 
5:11 PM
flag or nah?
 
@Unihedron I'll quote you on that if you don't
 
@JanDvorak that lacks a ">:)" at the end
 
@tgm1024 I wasn't implying that a growing number of users is an indication of success. I was implying that there are so many users here that the exact model Stack Overflow started with no longer applies. — AstroCB 5 secs ago
Now I'm really out.
 
@Braiam Isn't that obvious? >:)
 
@Unihedron, Did you read my point at all? It has to do with what's been happening over time. You understand that right? That's my point, I can't say it enough. All I need for my observations there is to 1. read the questions, and 2. read the decisions, 3. read the conversations, and 4. make note of it. All entirely without meta. — tgm1024 23 secs ago
 
5:14 PM
@2mkgz Automatic flags on comments whose average Lawler-weight exceeds a particular threshold, or whose absolute Lawler-weight exceeds a different threshold.
 
your vision is important and you definitely look at as many questions as we do i am a scrub k
 
@tgm1024 The "conversations" you speak of occur on Meta, do they not? — AstroCB 6 secs ago
Okay, maybe not out.
 
geez so arrogant
 
1 min ago, by AstroCB
Now I'm really out.
 
Please don’t argue in comments. It is bad for you, bad for the site, bad for the global warming.
 
5:14 PM
Gentlemen, I'm done here, but I think what's happened is that the original site notion of being a repository of knowledge out to help people has been completely hijacked by pedantic engineers lacking a larger perspective. — tgm1024 10 secs ago
 
^ I flagged.
 
I think we won, but I'm not sure.
 
@tchrist my existence is bad for global warming because I consume economic goods and use a computer, a machine that runs on so many layers of abstractions, and I play games / run simulations of virtual universes, which drains so much energy.
 
user259867
When one feels the urge to immediately quote one's comment in chat, that's a sign of a comment that shouldn't have been written.
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5:16 PM
> @astro, no, they're the comments in the questions.
 
@2mkgz or it needs more love ;)
 
Hmm...comments by OPs who have had their questions closed; what a great place for unbiased information.
 
You can't win. You can only mute the other side. The only winning move is not to play. You can't win.
 
Just today, I got an [on-hold] decision reversed by a moderator for someone's question because of this very nonsense. I'll leave you all to wrangle this out on your own, have fun. But in the meantime, be aware, 1. many of you have lost your way, and 2. the motivations for these things are becoming increasingly ego driven. Good day. — tgm1024 20 secs ago
Nope.
Wow.
 
5:18 PM
> I got an [on-hold] decision reversed by a moderator for someone's question because of this very nonsense.
What does that mean?
Either my English sucks, or theirs
 
Did they flag someone's question for reopening?
 
@JanDvorak Why is it that so very few understand that the only way to win an argument is not to have one?
 
You can't win, and you can't even not play
 
WAIT
 
5:20 PM
@JanDvorak Oh, I see you are acquainted with life.
 
WHAT
Is this a trap??
 
It's a trap!
But in order to fully understand this, you must imagine me with a fish head
 
ok done
user image
4
 
> Radagast the Brown: What if it's a trap?
Gandalf the Grey: Turn around and don't come back.
[Radagast leaves]
Gandalf: It's undoubtedly a trap.
[draws his sword]
 
5:23 PM
OK... the same guy who dumped a 7 hours worth of livestream footage just yesterday has dumped another six hours of footage just now.
 
I really wish I had a dupe hammer.
Not just in [android], but in all tags.
 
!jan
 
YES
 
user259867
I submitted an edit to this before Smokey sounds an alarm. But I don't know what the question is asking...
 
5:26 PM
I allow all reuse of my drawing under cc-by-sa 3.0 or for all good causes :)
 
You should change that to that anti-darwinism fish
 
this is why you should had been more specific when you speak of a fish head :D
 
Oh, wow: three more upvotes on that answer for Reversal.
 
Actually, a squid head. I meant a squid head. This one, specifically:
 
@SmokeDetector fp but NAA on the question apple.stackexchange.com/a/184587/68893
 
5:32 PM
@hichris123 Registered answer as false positive.
 
user259867
Today appears to be a local peak of "final exam tomorrow, must learn everything by dumping problems on Q&A websites". Seen on Math, Physics, and Stats (all three science sites I'm tracking).
 
Doesn't explain those offensive inappropriate answers on math, though
 
@2mkgz Yeah, almost finals time for a lot of kids.
 
Can we get a graph of proximity to AP exams vs. % increase of closed questions on sites relating to the subject matter of each exam?
 
user259867
I gave mine already (th&fr), but most math finals here are tomorrow. HS academic year ends a bit later, I suppose.
 
5:38 PM
yeah.
We end at the end of May.
 
user259867
@AstroCB I think the kids taking AP exams are not the main suppliers of such posts. It's mostly low-level college.
 
@2mkgz True.
 
@hichris123 UC students already graduated. I have BC calc exam on tues. Finals in 2 weeks.
 
Could someone unminify that^, please?
 
@bjb568 How do you get out that early; didn't you have a bunch of closings?
We're going until mid-late June.
 
5:41 PM
wait, its still september
 
user259867
@JanDvorak UC = University of Cincinnati. Calculus BC = college-level calculus class & exam taken in high school, as a part of Advanced Placement program. Potentially earns college credit.
 
@AstroCB Who needs to learn all the required material? amirite
 
user259867
I don't think "BC" stands for anything other than two letters of alphabet.
 
BC = bachelor study?
 
5:42 PM
@2mkgz right, since there's AB & then there's BC.
 
user259867
There is "AB" and "BC". I did not investigate, but suppose this is the result of merging some "A" "B" and "C" things, long ago.
 
Inconsistent naming scheme; there used to be AP CS A and AP CS AB.
 
Both of those courses are horrible, though.
 
@2mkgz …but BC covers all of AB. And for that matter all of algebra (indirectly).
AB is newer than BC tho, so IDK how that'll happened.
 
> Calculus BC is a full-year course in the calculus of functions of a single variable. It includes all topics covered in Calculus AB plus additional topics...Students who take an AP Calculus course should do so with the intention of placing out of a comparable college calculus course.
> AP Calculus AB is an Advanced Placement calculus course taken by high school students. The course is traditionally taken after precalculus and is the first calculus course offered at most schools except for the regular calculus class. The Pre-Advanced Placement pathway for math will help prepare students for further Advanced Placement classes and exams.
 
5:45 PM
A = Absolute minimum
B = Basic knowledge
C = what you get Credits for?
 
> calculus of functions of a single variable
That's not entirely true. There's implicit differentiation and related rates.
 
could be basic or absolute minimum depending on if it means linear or linear differential equations
 
!jan
 
5:55 PM
I gotta draw one with a squid
 
Please do. This one is already getting old.
 
^ Not sure. It appears to be legitimate.
 
6:13 PM
@AstroCB There are programmers who find being called engineers an insult.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How real are Bear Grylls TV shows? (Ultimate Survival in particular) by fred on movies.stackexchange.com
 
@AstroCB the only interrogant left is: who told him that helping people is the sole goal of SO (or SE for what matters)
actually "helping people" is a byproduct of doing what we do
 
user259867
@ASCIIThenANSI That one is a MathOverflow classic. A canonical example of an off-topic question that is hugely popular.
 
user259867
Consequently, the answers are similarly weird: essentially spam and well received.
 
user259867
@Braiam Well there is that new profile stat. :/
 
6:21 PM
@2mkgz touché
 
@SmokeDetector is this candid camera or how can this be on topic
 
... this is probably the weirdest comment I've ever seen on a chess game:
> <Dionysus_god> Fox is propaganda
 
All news is crap.
 
Sam
"News"? I've heard of that concept.
 
user259867
6:41 PM
1
A: How do I make that frothy milk that coffee shops use to make lattes?

Tim PostThey aren't just frothing the milk, they're also stretching the milk. Stretching it is what gives a latte its unique texture (though the micro bubbles add to that). If you want a good latte, focus first on stretching it - you can use a small whisk to get air into the milk if need be. You want a ...

 
user259867
Tim Post's answers on Coffee could make a book.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Its effectiveness is very limited in time by tina rostad on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@2mkgz wow...
@bjb568 what the..
 
7:27 PM
in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, Apr 17 at 17:43, by Tim Post
As our thanks to everyone that stuck it out and didn't withdraw, you'll be getting an email from me asking for your shipping info and size details at some point next week. I'm going to stuff your mailbox so full of awesome goodness that .. well ... your mailbox will fill up.
"next week" == 6- 8 weeks
 
@hichris123 y'all know the drill
 
user259867
> DEAR GOD WHAT WAS I THINKING? I am a horrible programmer. -- Tim Post at 12:24 PM - 3 May 2015 via Twitter
 
that would be (6-8 weeks)^3
 
user259867
@hichris123 I thought this was only for those who made it to the final round?
 
7:31 PM
@2mkgz Perhaps, but it still counts for me either way -- chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/22759028#22759028
 
user259867
Boo. I posted more than 10 in the Mathematics 2014 Moderator Election room...
 
user259867
SE is discriminating against zero-revenue sites full of LQ content.
2
 
Nah, you just didn't try hard enough.
 
user259867
Well, I did get a thank-you note from Shog which is worth more than a T-shirt.
 
user259867
7:37 PM
I don't normally wear T-shirts anyway.
 
... do you wear a suit then? A polo?
 
user259867
Argyle sweater vest FTW.
 
user259867
Though the season for that has just ended.
 
in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, Apr 14 at 2:20, by AstroCB
Martijn's closest competitor has only 615.4 m🖖™.
Good times.
 
shouldn't smokey catch "What's your Unix or Linux question? Be specific" titles?
!!/alive
 
7:46 PM
@Braiam Of course
 
user259867
@Braiam It's not an LQ bot, even though LQ questions get frequently reported by it. If it was actively looking for LQ posts, we'd be drowning in reports.
 
user259867
... most of which wouldn't be actionable by most users here.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Drinking 18 M-ohm water by DR. EDWARD SIEGEL on chemistry.stackexchange.com
 
... ???
spam?
 
user259867
7:51 PM
@SmokeDetector sPaM
 
> [PLEASE EXCUSE ALL CAPITALS DUE TO DUAL DISABILITIES: VISUAL AND MANUAL DEXTERITY]
 
user259867
Only tchrist's Unicode letters can properly express my reaction to this.
3
 
how about O_O?
 
Not the Unicode letters!
 
user259867
8:00 PM
@SmokeDetector fp
 
@2mkgz Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector delete edited (too late)
 
user259867
8:19 PM
Flagged a question-posted-as-answer on Русский язык... a reviewer edited, inserting two commas in its text. :/
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu SPAM
 
@2mkgz Blacklisted user.
 
@tchrist more for your ransom detector meta.stackoverflow.com/q/292210/792066
 
8:40 PM
@mxprodaja, Does my code work for you or not ? I think what you need to do is read a beginners introduction about Java and Android programming as well as general programming concepts, as you will not get anywhere if you do not know the basic concepts of programming. Start with something simple, build up your knowledge, and enjoy learning ! If you actually enjoy what you are doing you will succeed. Once you have the fundamentals, you should try again. I'd start out with desktop Java, and do easy and small things as you build up your knowledge. — JonasCz 10 mins ago
Sadly, I feel the need to write this ever more often.
 
@JonasCz Suggest Logo
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: No WiFi after upgrade to 15.04 by Ccunlimited on askubuntu.com
 
@rene How do I move the turtle in LOGO, rene?
@SmokeDetector tpu NAA
 
@hichris123 Blacklisted user.
 
8:44 PM
@hichris123 User removed from blacklist (402960 on askubuntu.com).
 
@hichris123 without looking I would say MOVE
 
Hrm, let's see...
 
I'm not yet at that chapter...
 
nope.
// MOVE FORWARD
FD 75
// TURN RIGHT
RT 54
// TURN LEFT
LT 21
// MOVE BACKWARD
BK 17
209
Q: How do I move the turtle in LOGO?

Joel SpolskyHow do I move the turtle in LOGO?

 
That is where the two letter variables originated from...
Now I'll be dreaming about moving turtles all night long
 
8:48 PM
Night turtl... ah, I mean rene.
 
:)
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector Same user as above, repeat offender.
 
I think I spent too much time in the shower.
Have you spent too much time in the shower if your vision is noticeably white-tinted?
 
user259867
@bjb568 -> Health ?
 
8:59 PM
:p
 

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