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05:10
^nuked
Hi, Inf. :3
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
user259867
let he who has the most money win
05:15
I like it, sell it!
user259867
Their site is a bit unbalanced: two users with 74K+, the rest under 27K.
I blame capitalism
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PASSWORD PROTECTION FOR PERSONAL MAILS by Mahesh varma on webapps.stackexchange.com
@Roombatron5000 Let he win?
there's a silent s/ before he
user259867
05:26
@SmokeDetector I wanted to edit, but I draw the line at Facebook Chat.
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[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: From them i'm talking about by rpeat wrk04 on superuser.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@Roombatron5000 Is the /it at the end silent too? ;)
@AlexisKing Just one? :)
@tchrist The big Perl one. ;p
@AlexisKing YOU READ ALL OF IT???!
@tchrist ...yes? Is that weird?
It demonstrates a lot of stamina.
Or determination.
It's a great answer! I upvoted it. :)
user259867
blacklist candidate biginfosys.com (possibly without .com)
05:34
I found it fascinating, tbh, despite not having a great grasp of Perl.
Well thank you.
This I think was what I found the oddest, really:
> Code that believes that stuff like /s/i can only match "S" or "s" is broken and wrong. You’d be surprised.
What?
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: It never had the opportunity by thessaince shah on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Muscle Building Supplements by sinrai wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
05:36
@AlexisKing Plenty of the issues are simply Unicode, not Perl, so would be issues anywhere.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@tchrist Yes, I found it relatively language-agnostic aside from the things that are related to Perl-specific syntax.
@AlexisKing LATIN SMALL LETTER LONG S
@tchrist Wonky.
05:38
Run: unichars /s/i
I wonder if that holds true in other languages' regexes.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: You understand and a often things you hear by nicolegartner on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
user259867
@tchrist I just tried /s/i.exec("ſ"), which is null, so JS doesn't have that behavior.
Of course, regex engines are all unspecified and undocumented, sooo...
@AlexisKing It is part of The Rules. In Java you need the UNICODE_CASE pattern compilation flag in conjunction with the case insensitive one. Or embed "(?u)".
I guess ECMAScript's engine is probably one of the better-specified ones.
@pizza gone
@AlexisKing Javascript's regexes are simply unusable for Unicode. They do not even try. UTS#18 is the compliance doc.
05:41
@tchrist Yep, just stumbled upon something discussing how ES6 will have unicode-compliant regexes, but ES5 does not.
There are four cases in Unicode if you count fold case, which is needed for casefolded matching.
But fc is an internal thing. Mostly there are just the three: lc, tc, uc.
@tchrist Unicode is quite a beast. I'm glad I don't need to deal with 99% of these oddities since I do relatively little string manipulation, so I just need to store inputs in a DB and get them back out the same as I put them in.
@bummi flagged
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Growth Supplements by gerry saun on meta.stackexchange.com
05:45
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@AlexisKing Well it affects collation.
And that requires fc. Minimally. Maybe UCA.
@tchrist Yeah, but I don't have to write the collation algorithms. :)
Databases get mojibaked a million times a second.
The whole issue of normalization is also painful.
@tchrist Sounds like people are using terrible databases.
People forget to normalize.
When do you really need to normalize?
05:49
@AlexisKing It's the front ends, mostly.
@tchrist Okay. Sounds like people are writing bad code. Also, the sky is blue and fish swim. ;)
@AlexisKing Two Unicode strings are considered the same if they have the same normalization form.
You have to normalize to do lookups.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: High Quality Ingredients For Body Building by Karolin Feffer on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
05:51
@tchrist I guess I'm just unsure when I'd really need to do lookups on Unicode. I guess searching, but I never actually roll my own search algorithm at its core.
I find anything I try to write ends up sucking, anyway.
You never compare two strings?
@tchrist String comparison is code smell? ;P No, but seriously, when do you need to do that? Logging in? Not going to be doing normalization on username or password.
Oops.
Is... is that bad? D:
You really should you know.
05:53
Why?
Otherwise logging in from two different boxes can send different forms for the same string.
Ah, that makes sense.
This is why you should be glad I've never written any large user account management software. :P
All of the times I've tried to roll my own auth have been for tiny, personal projects.
I've just been having to deal with this.
Otherwise I just use OpenID or something.
This is closed stuff. Government.
05:57
@tchrist My condolences.
user259867
Does "government" involve supporting IE7 on WinXP?
utf8mb4_collate_ci
@pizza No.
Nor IE8.
Are any of you familiar with the Los Angeles Unified School District, aka LAUSD? They've been in the news for their idiotic "let's buy students iPads" program.
user259867
Not necessarily idiotic. Surely someone got a nice kickback.
Mommy how come the furnace gets an iPad but I don't?
05:59
Okay. Depends on your point of view, I guess. :P Anyway. Well, apparently, they supposedly still employ some COBOL programmers. I found out about this through... erm, connections.
Ligando.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website, repeating characters in body: your body and flushing of pounds of waste by jeni jenet on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
06:02
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@tchrist I think there might be a couple typos in The Great Unicode Epic, by the way. I didn't feel like fixing them at the time, though.
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer, repeating words in answer: How Do You Add Text Under a Table in Microsoft Word 1999? by brave on superuser.com
offensive ? ^
06:17
@SilentKiller NAA, at the very least.
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: A new algorithm in the world of encryption by Gurbax on crypto.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector awful question, arrghhh
Technically might not be spam, though.
@InfiniteRecursion I don't think I was actually 100% sure that bluefeet was female, though I thought I remembered knowing something about that.
On a tangent, I wrote something a month or two ago that hit the front page of Hacker News... someone in the comments refers to me as "he" and I correct them... along with a comment actually talking about my post...
NOPE, that entire thread became a bunch of people arguing about gender in technology despite me leaving the conversation promptly afterwards.
flips table
@InfiniteRecursion :(
06:24
@AlexisKing I hate it when that happens
@SecondRikudo I actually wanted to have a conversation about the thing I wrote, too. :(
At least the reddit thread was peaceful and constructive.
@AlexisKing The blessing and curse of unmoderated conversation.
@InfiniteRecursion Oof, -12 on that question.
-13 now. ;p
@AlexisKing For good reason
That's the same as me asking a question about "The participation of Jews in Stack Overflow"
06:35
@SecondRikudo Yep, I was one of the downvoters.
07:08
status-closed
07:33
Booya
Morning!
@J.Steen Ah, it is morning here, too! 00:36, to be exact! :D
...I should sleep. >.>
@SmokeDetector tpu
Y U NO LISTEN TO ME
!!/so2015
@AndrewT. Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Election voting ends in 0 days, 11 hours, 48 minutes and 48 seconds.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@AlexisKing Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
08:11
@SecondRikudo @hichris123, get on that? :)
08:23
So, uh, a bit broad, yeah? stackoverflow.com/q/29766671/64976
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Is Enduros Testo Booster Safe? by Kathryn Haskins on superuser.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: muscles Building totally agree with you by Rachel Brittany on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
08:36
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Clash of Clans Gem Cheat? by Vincent Ferror on italian.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
spam seed
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Clash of Clans cheat. anyone? by Vincent Ferror on ham.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FIND CENTROID OF ELLIPSE USING MATLAB CODE by user33425 on academia.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ORACLE : DROP DOMAIN SPATIAL INDEX by user2319284 on stackoverflow.com
08:48
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Clash of Clans cheat. anyone? by Vincent Ferror on tor.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Clash of Clans gems cheat? by Vincent Ferror on space.stackexchange.com
08:53
@SmokeDetector tpu
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
does anyone have links to the mods of these sites?
/users?tab=moderators
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: see good was its his by june lewis on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
08:55
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How can i save the multiselct dropdown list by Annaram Ravinder on magento.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector ignore
@James Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
[ SmokeDetector ] Answer has only one unique char: Deleting the AMI image by Aakash Garg on serverfault.com
^ NAA
Also - very interesting detection-reason.
09:02
Welcome to Server Fault! Please use the Post answer button only for actual answers. You should modify your original question to add additional information. Please take a tour. — Unihedro 5 secs ago
until @shog9 will care this could be the work list stackexchange.com/users/5933495/vincent-ferror?tab=accounts
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
09:44
dead ^^
awake or tcmp? ^^
still alive & awake but I want a nap :D
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: A new algorithm in the world of encryption by Gurbax on crypto.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user, email in answer: How do I remove hacked money? by user108524 on gaming.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Unihedro Blacklisted user.
@SmokeDetector tpu, persistent user
@AndrewT. Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What are the ingredients of it? by jamalujuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
in RegEx - Regular Expressions on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by nhahtdh
Not sure if we can get a mod to delete this: http://stackoverflow.com/a/18958937/1400768
^ thoughts?
10:38
@AlexisKing @SecondRikudo fixed
10:48
@PatrickHofman After the Tavern effect:
I don't get it, why this request is getting so many downvotes and is even put on hold now. This is a quite common error when concatenating SQL strings in some programming languages, so the question and its answers may very well help someone with the same problem. (Tagging this with the programming language in question would have been appropriate though.) — Thorsten Kettner 14 mins ago
@InfiniteRecursion He should know better...
I agree. (11k+ user)
I suggest him to actually read the close reason. Can't be that hard.
@ThorstenKettner Just because this may be a common problem doesn't exempt it from moderation. It gets its treatment as a low quality question because it is a low quality question. — Unihedro 8 secs ago
10:56
Wow. Just got serially downvoted by a 36k user. Very nice...
@Mooseman How can you tell?
My only recent post on MSE has been this one:
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A: A specific SO post is hurting privacy on the internet

MoosemanThe answer has been downvoted by several users -- this is the correct response to inaccurate or poor answers. Your answer has been upvoted by 47 users and awarded a bounty. This is obviously preferred by the community. You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet...

Obviously the OP probably isn't too happy with me now
The two questions that were downvoted:
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Q: Shouldn't the SE quality check block posts that are only a link?

MoosemanI'm part of the MSE TAVERN ANTI-SPAM CLUB and this question *now deleted was just a link: Just a link. The entire body of the post was within the outbound link. Can/should the SE quality check block these?

@Unihedro Mods are not for deleting answers with 100+ score just because one user says it's technically incorrect. Downvote incorrect answers, don't call the mods.
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Q: Flag dialog for faded offensive posts appears below answer editor

MoosemanSimilar to this, but containing more bugginess. Take a look at this: The post was grayed out because it received (presumably) 3 offensive flags. The answer was simply a random string of profanities. Grayed out? Good. Grayed out flag dialog? Not good, but already reported. The editor hazing a...

10:59
@Mooseman I agree, but this noise is spreading. — Rook 17 hours ago
They don't sound upset.
@Unihedro But it isn't a resolution for them
So you assumed they downvoted you anyway? :p
The two questions were downvoted within a minute of each other
@Unihedro Somebody did and knew that two downvotes would go unavenged by SE.
@Mooseman Is your only recent post on MSE relevant at all then? There are many cases of long term stalking.
@Unihedro Always possible, but rather odd now.
> Moderators are also bad. They use wrong profits of their reputation. - Some user with 53 rep
11:08
spam an seed still alive here ham.stackexchange.com/a/3826/4362 and many seeds left on different sites
@AlexisKing These thigns happne. If you find them, just either let me know or feel free to go ahead and fix them yourself.
status-new-account
> Grayed out? Good. Grayed out flag dialog? Not good, but already reported. The editor hazing a higher z-index than the flag dialog. Definite original . Please fix.
May the hobgoblins of a thousand Emerson’s nightmares plague you.
@Unihedro thwas all Terraria fans fault.
11:10
Wow. I have to wake up yet.
I can’t see.
@tchrist That bug only reported the child opacity, not the z-index of the editor.
What does hazing mean here?
3D?
status-completed
Or does hazing contrast with haxing and haying for the other two axes?
Just askin’.
Did anybody report that Gothic Banana Cat bug yet?
No, nicael took a break. He reports all the bugs.
11:17
@InfiniteRecursion Can we get this added in the description?
@InfiniteRecursion Probably taking kickbacks from the SE devs to give them a holiday.
That or they bought him an all-expenses-paid trip to Brigadoon.
@Mooseman Sorry, but I won't add it.
@InfiniteRecursion D:
@Lamart Why Shog9 is considered the boss you ask? Well, he is know to be the master of all the Medusa Heads. If you can recall how aggravating jumps where with those things flying around consider how you will feel when the master is hunting you.
10 hours ago, by tchrist
Some of Shog’s relatives.
11:28
!!/so2015
@InfiniteRecursion Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Election voting ends in 0 days, 8 hours, 31 minutes and 1 second.
Actually, the online ranking of most annoying videogame enemies is on my side:
And he topped even the Eggplant Wizard from Kid Icarus!
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Stop the feeling of “Worrying” by tyulopsxzq on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
11:33
Drupal still has the old profiles? :o
Flags on Lifehacks:
> average handling time 0 days 1 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds
:D
@michaelpri @Frank ^^ :D
@SmokeDetector fp
@Mooseman Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@Oded should I edit the question about the tooltip you just fixed and add the real steps to reproduce? Or doesn't it really matter now?
huh? why are there aliens in star board?
@ShadowWizard meh. No need.
@ShadowWizard cats*
status-fair-enough-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish
@Doorknob really?? zooming in
11:49
@ShadowWizard fish badges FTFY
BTW - thanks for looking into it deeper. I couldn't figure out how to trigger that
🐶🐶🐶
huh!
Oh no. Why can't we block him from suggesting edits for a year or two? meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/38771
@Oded cheers, sometimes fresh set of eyes can do wonders :)
🐱 vs. 🐶
11:51
That editor is back o_O
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: EQUALITY 4 BIT WITH 4 BIT BY IC 74181 (ALU) by gabe on electronics.stackexchange.com
@PatrickHofman he's not really harmful... he just love to explain. A lot.
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Q: Unicode mishandling bug in chat starboard truncation

tchristI see dead charac�... TD;DR: Just like how when you cut a worm in half, you don’t get two worms because both parts die being non-viable on its own, so too does cutting a character in half result in dead characters. Characters are atomic and must never not be split. In chat when something long...

@ShadowWizard Indeed, but why is he making such edits? They are not helpful. What if one tag is deleted, then we have to update all 'related' sections.
Has @CapricaSix been resurrected by the way?
11:53
@ShadowWizard He needs to have a conversation with BJB regarding suggested edits.
@PatrickHofman he thinks it's helpful, and some appear to agree. His right, and our role to judge by reviewing. :)
@InfiniteRecursion oh my, that can't have a happy ending D:
> Most of my reputation I earned via all sorts of suggested-edits, and this while none-english-speakers also applies to me. I believe I have a reasonable ratio of rejected-edits, despite what the votes in some of my question/answers about the review process seem to suggest.
WHY DO WINDOWS USERS YELL SO MUCH?
wait, you use windows?
12:06
BECAUSE WINDOWS IS SCREAMING AWESOME!
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Lobotomy successful.
wait what
omg tchrist is a windows user
omg
@Mooseman FOX!!!
12:12
:D
@ShadowWizard Nope
@Mooseman so we can't ask you anything about foxes without triggering this onebox? ;)
@Mooseman beware of shog...
bugged
@Mooseman lol, cheating :D
status-reloaded-for-tavern
You should be able to trigger a delete, but only for Moosebot.
12:14
@Mooseman delete
lol
@PatrickHofman yup, approved. :)
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Mooseman Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
12:20
@SmokeDetector fp
@Mooseman Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@tchrist thanks for the explanation, so I can link this post from meta.stackexchange.com/questions/253214/…
@AndrewT. That doesn’t look like it’s splitting up characters or graphemes, just double-encoding HTML.
@tchrist +1, I agree
I stand corrected, comment removed.
12:35
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii by Marsh.K on ux.stackexchange.com
12:47
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Maximum area of rectangle with fixed perimeter. by motherfers on math.stackexchange.com
^^ offensive
Nice username.

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