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12:06 AM

cv-plz unclear/too broad stackoverflow.com/questions/29737331/…

Yea, so 2.5 minutes is possible but not 2 minutes

@Roombatron5000 ⁵⁄₂

Braiam

@hichris123 where's that badge where you manage to ask a question that fits more than 3 close reasons?

3

@tchrist yuk

@Roombatron5000 ¹²⁰⁄₅₀

12:07 AM

@Braiam lol

ugh, improper fractions are scury

@Braiam I've seen 4.

Not my fault SE uses a dinglefont.

Hmm, @tchrist, what's 50/645?

:P

@hichris123 ⁵⁰⁄₆₄₅ is ¹⁰⁄₁₂₉.

12:09 AM

Huh, I haven't used Opera in years. I just grabbed it. It's kinda nice.

And you didn't VTC the question I posted?!

These mod candidates. scoff

@Roombatron5000 What do squirrels have to do with it?

user259867

Opera is great on mobile. My long-time browser of choice on Android, and before that on iOS.

> Library to fix me programming good with? eval('console.lg("hello world")')

(unclear, too broad, opinion, needs more code, recommendation, typo, dup)

ALL THE REASONS

@JasonC yuk

@pizza Opera’s speed makes everything else a joke. It also clones and restores history correctly.

12:15 AM

@bjb568islowercase Yeah, but you don't like anything.

And yeah, btw, u are slower case.

String.

Opera's logo doesn't even look good.

BJBlovestring.

Who's Tring?

u wot

I AM LOWERCASE

12:16 AM

@bjb568islowercase Who the hell cares about bloody marketing crap?

It's infuriating to look at.

@bjb568islowercase No, it says "bjb568 I slower case"

@JasonC BJBlovestringyourbell.

Also, I remember rendering glitches.

And chase threads.

@bjb568islowercase Its zoom is superior.

12:17 AM

@JasonC no

yay +1 for freehand red circles

@tchrist I zoom into yer mum

Go tringy your own bell, stay away from ours.

@bjb568islowercase Keep your spunk to yourself.

BJBlovespunking

Mooseman

@BJB568 will ping you anyways

12:18 AM

igh

@BJB pings him?

uh… no

‮B‮J‮B‮h‮a‮t‮e‮s‮c‮a‮t‮h‮i‮n‮g

cathing?

@BJBiſlowercaſe pings.

Welcome to the iFlower Café!

12:32 AM

1 cv plz stackoverflow.com/q/29501109/3041194

Ooh this is kewl

... yeah, the ^4 thing is easier to just do by hand

You can even use the fancy Pascal's Triangle trick

Hate Pascal.

@Doorknob The point is to understand it, not to use that for solving.

That doesn't really help you understand anything.

It's flashy and colorful, but not really... useful

12:36 AM

Nah, it's just colorful and cool looking. (Heh, you beat me to it.)

(for understanding the distributive property)

@BJB yeah, I agree.

intentionally pings with uppercase

Y U UPPARCASEZ

@bjb568islowercase @BJB IS UPPERCASE

NO

@BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe @BJBiſlowercaſe

12:38 AM

@bjb568islowercase My brain!

You are a myth.

@tchrist Does that actually work to ping?

@TcHrIſT

Nope. :(

@Doorknob Only if it does a case-insensitive match according to The Rules.

But it’s SE, who are notoriously horrible at Unicode.

They know not what they don’t.

@Doorknob Still, it doeſ look aweſome to put that in any meſſage, then watch people's reactionſ aſ they read it.

this is interesting

12:42 AM

9 mins ago, by Roombatron5000

1 cv plz http://stackoverflow.com/q/29501109/3041194

@hic ^

Braiam

@bjb568islowercase why that looks like a end-game of mini-train?

@bjb568islowercase wut

@Roombatron5000 k

@ASCIIThenANSI It does look does look aweſome to put that in any meßage. Terminal -s is s, and double-ſ is ß.

@BJB568IS UPPERCASE?

12:43 AM

NO

MOAR BIGGER!

anyway, coffee time

𝕭𝕵𝕭𝖎𝕾𝖑𝕺𝖂𝕰𝕽𝖈𝕬𝕾𝕰
𝔅𝔍𝔅𝔦𝔖𝔩𝔒𝔚𝔈ℜ𝔠𝔄𝔖𝔈
𝑩𝑱𝑩𝒊𝑺𝒍𝑶𝑾𝑬𝑹𝒄𝑨𝑺𝑬
𝐁𝐉𝐁𝐢𝐒𝐥𝐎𝐖𝐄𝐑𝐜𝐀𝐒𝐄
𝐵𝐽𝐵𝑖𝑆𝑙𝑂𝑊𝐸𝑅𝑐𝐴𝑆𝐸
ℬ𝒥ℬ𝒾𝒮𝓁𝒪𝒲ℰℛ𝒸𝒜𝒮ℰ
𝘽𝙅𝘽𝙞𝙎𝙡𝙊𝙒𝙀𝙍𝙘𝘼𝙎𝙀
𝗕𝗝𝗕𝗶𝗦𝗹𝗢𝗪𝗘𝗥𝗰𝗔𝗦𝗘
𝘉𝘑𝘉𝘪𝘚𝘭𝘖𝘞𝘌𝘙𝘤𝘈𝘚𝘌
𝖡𝖩𝖡𝗂𝖲𝗅𝖮𝖶𝖤𝖱𝖼𝖠𝖲𝖤
𝙱𝙹𝙱𝚒𝚂𝚕𝙾𝚆𝙴𝚁𝚌𝙰𝚂𝙴
𝔹𝕁𝔹𝕚𝕊𝕝𝕆𝕎𝔼ℝ𝕔𝔸𝕊𝔼

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@tchrist Måybə wə ſhould å|| ſtart tå|king |ike thiſ, in every p0ſt we make. Thiſ w0uld be perfect, n0 0ne c0uld ever kn0w 0ur 'ſecret |anguage'.

"poﬅ" matches "POST" under Unicode case folding rules.

¡¡¡HURRAY FOR BLACKLETTER STARS!!!

I kinda like the SLOWER part.

12:48 AM

R341 1337 |-|4XX0RZ 741|< |_1|<3 7|-|15

happy monday

What are the winning lotto numbers tomorrow?

> 4 12 27 33 39 (8)

@Doorknob ©øMÞ°§Ẽ Kæ¥ FTW¡

@ASCIIThenANSI ☺ ¡hóóŕáý fóŕ ćóḿṕóśé!

12:55 AM

@Roombatron5000 bjb got to it, I see.

@tchrist Now what Unicode characters are those...

One last close vote: stackoverflow.com/questions/29737331/…

@Doorknob ΆͷϦ ύⲚⲒСОᎠᎬ ᎢᎤᏅ

Braiam

> Help and Improvement
by tag: php java javascript

:(

user259867

Hm, Roombatron has 31,642 helpful flags on SO...

And those all render in Segoe UI Symbol.

@Doorknob ¡́H́ÚŔŔÁÝ F́ÓŔ ÁĹĹ T́H́É ĆÓḾB́ÍŃÉŚ!́

12:58 AM

@pizza start bug report?

user259867

@Braiam Life becomes easier if one realizes that HIQ is not so much a review queue as a PR move by SE management. It gets easier to ignore.

𐌸𐍇𐍂𐌹𐍃𐍄 was here.

@tchrist Can I have a list of those characters?

Q: Can’t change username to an all-alphabetic word

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Summary: The alphabetic check is erroneously checking UTF-16 code units not Unicode code points! I attempted to change my username to the Gothic version, and I received the rather rudely rubicund retort of: Now, the string in question was 𐌸𐍇𐍂𐌹𐍃𐍄, which as you can plainly see, is entirel...

@tchrist |-| () () R /-\ Y |= () R |_ 33 ^|^ !

1:00 AM

19 mins ago, by tchrist

But it’s SE, who are notoriously horrible at Unicode.

𐌸𐍇𐍂𐌹𐍃𐍄
\x{10338}\x{10347}\x{10342}\x{10339}\x{10343}\x{10344}
\N{GOTHIC LETTER THIUTH}\N{GOTHIC LETTER IGGWS}\N{GOTHIC LETTER RAIDA}\N{GOTHIC LETTER EIS}\N{GOTHIC LETTER SAUIL}\N{GOTHIC LETTER TEIWS}

@hichris123 Several times.

Thiuth is especially cool.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29737768/465378 + NAA

@tchrist Gottit. I gotta say, Unicode support for Chrome for Windows is really poor.

@hichris123 I suppose you could run Linux in a virtual machine...

nah, I'll just attempt to fix it. :P

I need to try porting the Firefox work to Chrome.

1:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: can nike roshe run flyknit online sale cheap? by xiongqingwu on meta.stackexchange.com

Firefox basically sends everything to Segoe UI Symbol first, but Chrome only sends a few Unicode blocks to Segoe UI Symbol.

@hichris123 I’ve never hard any trouble with Unicode support on my computers.

@tchrist But wait for it... you don't use Windows. :)

I would rather die.

Mac is like Windows, except trendier

1:18 AM

@yellowantphil You know not what you say.

and it has a shell

user259867

^ using Chrome/Windows.

@pizza Sucks to be a Prisoner of Bill, doesn’t it? :(

you’d rather be a prisoner of Steve

1:18 AM

Mar 21 at 17:15, by tchrist

@Frank Like your maid, I don’t do Windows.

@pizza yikes

@pizza I'm working on it. :P

@yellowantphil Most of my machines run OpenBSD.

I wonder how it managed to do those two characters

I’ve used BSD for more than 30 years.

1:19 AM

@tchrist that’s better. I was hoping for a BSD user so I could stop feeling superior

Linux is like BSD except wimpier

Not really.

less venerable? less UNIXy, now that systemd has taken over the world?

Chrome/Windows user can only see ℬℰℰℛ

The kernel is very different.

I'm not cool enough to know about kernels, except that however they designed the HURD was a terrible idea

1:21 AM

Most of it is rendering with Verdana, hm...

Wait, you aren’t a kernel programmer? What the hell would you be doing on Stack Overflow if you can’t play games with your stack? :)

I patched my kernel a few times in the old days, on Linux 2.4, but that’s about it

user259867

@tchrist Front-end development, obviously. :/

user259867

Which is ~50% of SO.

Whateverz.

1:22 AM

they lock me in a dark room and make me write C

> 90% of everything is crap.

except I’m switching to some database project on Windows tomorrow 😑

Hrm, so let's see if my local build of Chrome still builds. :P

./configure --enable-better-fonts

@yellowantphil Nah, we use ninja.

1:25 AM

./ninja --enable-better-fonts?

sadly no.

If you're wondering what the Blink Win fallback font code looks like... code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#chromium/src/third_party/…

> WTF_ARRAY_LENGTH(scriptToFontFamilies)

I need to dig up more...

Q: Should the "Page Not Found" page for deleted spam suggest a search?

@AndrewT. code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#chromium/src/third_party/…

3ventic

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When a <10k user opens a deleted question, he is greeted with a "Page Not Found" page explaining that the question has been deleted by the author, or for moderation reasons, but more importantly it suggests that the user could search for similar questions or run a Google search with the title of ...

discussion feature-request deleted-questions spam 404-not-found

Appears to be status-completed?

user259867

status-completed

user259867

1:36 AM

And not only that, the URL slug is removed.

Anyone? Last close vote: stackoverflow.com/questions/29737331/…

Q: wtf is WTF? (in WebKit code base)

SO is really useful :O

52

I downloaded Chromium's code base and ran across the WTF namespace. namespace WTF { /* * C++'s idea of a reinterpret_cast lacks sufficient cojones. */ template<typename TO, typename FROM> TO bitwise_cast(FROM in) { COMPILE_ASSERT(sizeof(TO) == sizeof(FROM), WTF_...

c++ webkit chromium

user259867

2:34 AM

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Q: 新春の投票キャンペーン

今日は何回投票しましたか？３００回を投票すると市民の義務バッジを与えます。現在５人しか獲得していない稀なバッジですが、ユーザーの信用度を増えるために投票が必要です。投票を増やすため、今週は「新春の投票キャンペーン」にします。投票するだけで豪華※な商品を当たれます！ ※ 実は豪華ではなく、Tシャツです。つまり、当社のロゴが付いているので、それが豪華かな？いいえ、そうでもないなぁ。当サイトのロゴは$512のコンテストでした。豪華というより、素敵のほうがいいかな？ルールは簡単です。今週投票を５回以上すると、抽選に入ります。投票された回数は応募券になります。例えば： ...

討議注目投票

user259867

^ ja.SO is giving away T-shirts to active voters.

user259867

Let's go vote there!

user259867

Knowledge of Japanese is optional.

2

The Google Translate conversion is comedy gold.

> Order to increase the vote, this week should be "New Year vote campaign". Luxury simply by voting ※ You hits the products!

> ※ actually not a luxury, it is a T-shirt. In other words, since the Company's logo is attached, wonder if it is gorgeous? No, Naa Not really. This site logo $ 512 was a contest of. Rather than a luxury, wonder if more of nice is good?

Google Translating the main help center page of ja.SO produces hilarious results.

2:38 AM

@Doorknob You're right.

> Or a subjective, or a content lead to a fire

5

The SE team has anticipated answers leading to fires.

That seems like something that should be in a legal disclosure, not the help center, but hey, I don't run the company.

user259867

I would not dismiss the opinions of super-creators as easily as they do.

@pizza ALL MUST BOW BEFORE THE SUPER-CREATOR ※

※ note: super-creator is bjb

hey!

in Smoke Detector School on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | GibberishClassifierBeta ] Potential gibberish body (99.0139638548%): Problems with comparison between two inputs in for loops in Java on stackoverflow.com

stackoverflow.com/posts/19761545/revisions

@hichris123, did you flag?

@AlexisKing Never, ever forget to courtesy.

2:50 AM

@JasonC Not deceived

minus votes

Haha, they should really write "Here is the place for like put out a clear answer questions!" under SO's title graphic.

user259867

@AndrewT. reached 135K people with only 82 answers on Android Enthusiasts. Looks like a good place for people-reaching.

user259867

(For comparison: his 121 answers on SO reached only 34K).

user259867

3:11 AM

The sum of views is not as interesting as individual view counts. Answers ordered by view count can be interesting, but the data is skewed by answers that arrived late to the party.

smokey is very quiet

!!/alive

@James Kinda sorta

!!/apiquota

@James 6877

!!/blame

3:14 AM

@James It's Alexis King's fault.

user259867

It's early Monday morning in Spamland. Not easy to get going on a Monday... spammers are brewing their coffee now.

xkcdBot

I'd press on them to try to unstick them, but I can't reach. Can we try cycling day and night really fast?

3

xkcd trigger on mornin*?

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Is it possible to disable MacBook trackpad under Windows 7? by chavalit on apple.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector NAA, "thanks" padded to required length.

3:25 AM

No likey odyssey.

user259867

Me neither, such a dodgy character.

user259867

Mythology launches on Tuesday! Hopefully.

3:49 AM

food.com/recipe/balsamic-tuna-22943?photo=64257 <- do it. Takes like 10 minutes.

@bjb568islowercase Just pretend Homer wrote history not fiction. ;)

@pizza Now, I just have to figure out how to register...

user259867

As with other language sites: have SO open in another window. Layout is identical.

user259867

ja.SO was created without any Area 51 proposal (unlike pt.SO and ru.SO). Now they find that user activity is low.

I wonder how I could get enough rep to downvote on a site in a language I don't speak.

4:00 AM

@AstroCB Editing. ;)

user259867

@AstroCB Look for [command name] hascode:0 to find posts with malformatted code. Format it.

@tchrist I could see how long it would take for me to get suggested edit banned for spamming after I start using GTranslate to fix things.

@pizza Good idea.

user259867

It's not guaranteed that there'll be enough of broken code, given the site is new.

Weird no Area 51.

user259867

Yes, they just created the site as a special project.

4:01 AM

This does, interestingly enough, prove an earlier hypothesis – half of the time, you don't really need to read the post to gauge its quality.

The questions that look bad on ja.SO are, in fact, closed.

One in English: ja.stackoverflow.com/questions/9310/…

Welcome to Stack Overflow in Japanese! If possible, can you please rewrite the question in Japanese? Or I can migrate your question to superuser.com where they accept questions about softwares in English (I'll need to check with the SU mods first though) — ento ♦ 3 hours ago

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@SmokeDetector tpu

@AstroCB Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Morning over

xkcdBot

4:05 AM

信用度 -> rep

Okay, now I'm confused, since the profile layout on ja.so is not yet updated.

also on English: ja.stackoverflow.com/questions/8462

user259867

Translation must be holding it up. ru.so has the new profile already, but pt and ja versions do not.

@bjb568islowercase That bounty expires in 15 hrs.

Pissing in the wind.

user259867

jmac confirmed that foreign users are eligible for the voting lottery on ja.so.

4:08 AM

... just when I wanted to say that :)

anyway, the rule is... starting from today you have 1 week to vote, vote posts (not comment) on main site (not meta). minimum vote of 5 times will give you entry in the contest. Result will be announced on Wednesday next week.

user259867

But voting more increases the chance of winning proportionally.

@BJB IS UPPERCASE :O

This question about the election voting should probably be answered sooner than later...

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How to make changes in nvidia-settings tool persistent by Kalvin on unix.stackexchange.com

!!/so2015

4:13 AM

@AstroCB Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Election voting ends in 1 day, 15 hours, 46 minutes and 0 seconds.

> AndrewT. It is good to live abroad, but only take time to arrive.

That sounds pretty zen.

lol

Morning!

Another Morning bot...

4:27 AM

144 tomatoes seeded, 18 cloned, 72 peppers, 36 eggplant, row of peas & row of onions

not a totally useless weekend

user259867

But to think how much rep you could farm on Gardening & Landscaping instead.

I am impressed.

@AndrewT. I'll mourn it too, briefly

The art of the comma.

@Shog9 Wait. What in the world are you going to do with such a gross number of tomato plants??! Are you starting a ketchup factory?

@tchrist Somebody has to fuel the red for the freehand circles.

4:35 AM

@tchrist I have to assume at least half of these will die before bearing fruit

Last year I lost about a 3rd to late frost and another quarter to disease

better to have too many than too few

Seems pretty standard failure rate. Will you be putting some up?

hopefully, yes

Yum.

Guy Clark - Homegrown Tomatoes

I really love tomatoes. I could eat tomato soup every day.

►

Only two things that money can't buy - that's true love & homegrown tomatoes

I'll eat upwards of dozen a day in season. Tomato sandwiches, tomato salads, slived tomatoes, &c&c&c. Mom always has them coming out of her ears, but for me only the cherries are that bountiful.

4:40 AM

heh... gross number. I'm slow tonight.

@AstroCB not awarding it

@Shog9 me likey tomato soup!

@bjb568islowercase Recipe?

1. Go to store.
2. Get tomato soup.
3. Stick in microwave.

4. Dip grilled cheez sammywedge

wiz

5:00 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: настройки virtuemart by LenovoID on ru.stackoverflow.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector NAA, but not spam

Night!

Night!

!!/so2015

@InfiniteRecursion Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Election voting ends in 1 day, 14 hours, 47 minutes and 46 seconds.

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[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How to display content of the Word Document in a Visualforce Page by Swapnil Kale on salesforce.stackexchange.com

SilentKiller

5:16 AM

drupal gone

@SmokeDetector tpu

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

5:29 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: User Profiles email property not getting updated in SharePoint by p s on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

> Maybe we should have a support women on SO / MSO day o_O

@SmokeDetector ignore

@James Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

uff : superuser.com/posts/903632/revisions

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Herbal And Dietary Supplement For Muscle Building by Monika Kunze on askubuntu.com

5:33 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu

@SmokeDetector tpu

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

5:47 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Supplement To Get Massive by alina maul on meta.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector tpu

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW DOES FAT PROBLEM by Laury jenet on drupal.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector tpu

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

@SmokeDetector tpu

5:53 AM

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: http://propowergarciniaslook.com/dental-pro-at-home/ by skamisu Tieo on askubuntu.com

@SmokeDetector tpu

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29731953/…

6:16 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/26592152/…

:/ stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7753173

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Ways To Sleep Better My work strategy by Duloz Wox on superuser.com

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SilentKiller

6:35 AM

1 more cv stackoverflow.com/q/26592152/1160282 rest closed and spam nuked.

I hate when the close reason message misrepresents me.

I did not pick "unclear".

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@SmokeDetector tpu

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/q/155692/20140

6:49 AM

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@SmokeDetector tpu

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

PeterJ

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