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4:00 PM

@Unihedron Do you notice a significantly large number of false positive phone numbers of that form?

Actually; do you log the false positives, in general?

@JasonC Yeah. If there are any other false patterns you notice please let me know. I'm going to write the regex after I finish pushing this commit.

Jason C

Btw I'd say JSON object tags in a title might not be the greatest titles anyways.

Unihedron

At least spammers don't obfuscate their phone numbers into a json object yet.

user259867

or by posting them in hexadecimal.

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion If it's clearly spam, then yes, because using tpu means that you blacklist the user so we will always get an alert for one of their posts, which is what we want for a spammer.

Jan Dvorak

4:04 PM

@ProgramFOX when do we use plain tp then?

Jason C

@JanDvorak Generally before you leave the bathroom.

Jan Dvorak

@JasonC If you mean toilet papers, I prefer scented ones, actually

Unihedron

@JanDvorak When it's a code dump on MSE.

ProgramFOX

@JanDvorak Yes, I've been thinking about that while replying. If we also want to have low quality posts on the "bad" doctype, then use it in case of a LQP.

Jason C

tp should always be used after a code dump.

ProgramFOX

4:05 PM

@Undo @hichris123 @Manishearth What do you think, do we need low quality posts (not spam) to be on the Bayesian "bad" doctype?

Unihedron

To charcoal HQ?

Jason C

^ Would be difficult to judge accurately from title.

Jan Dvorak

@ProgramFOX meh. Just wait until someone finds a magic regex again and you'll be out of votes before you know it. And before 5AM

ProgramFOX

@Unihedron I thought of posting it here, so everyone can see the message its replies without I have to onebox it from Charcoal HQ.

Unihedron

@JanDvorak Challenge accepted.

Andy

4:08 PM

@Unihedron It's not the regex that is the problem. It's that the hex address provided LOOKS like an Indian phone number

It is passing this check:

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

Possible True, Valid True, Explain: Country Code: 91 National Number: 7236323900
 Leading Zero(s): False

Bart

I just realized we haven't had a podcast in a while now. Did they stop?

Andy

So, it looks like a phone number and it has a valid format in the 91 country code

Unihedron

@Andy If the regex ignores the number sequences iff it follows the two criteria I menioned, then it wouldn't be matched to have to go through the phonenumber check.

user259867

@Bart I think the next one will be when the Great Quality Improvement project rolls out in its full glory.

Bart

@Rafflesiaarnoldii 6-8 weeks then

Andy

4:10 PM

Good luck finding a phone number regex that fits the possible phone number combinations around the world.

user259867

Nov 2 at 21:48, by just a brick in the wall

Tavern pool: guess the month in which SE will roll out the long-awaited Total Quality Redesign on SO.

Unihedron

@Andy I meant tweaking the regex to ignore on special conditions so that it wouldn't be caught up to go through the phonenumbers package to be checked then.

'D you think it'd be practical?

user259867

@Andy One way is to look at the character preceding 91 in the true positives. Space, +, maybe : or (, anything else could be there? Certainly not another digit or x.

nicael

Oh no. @Inf is dangerously close to 2k. It must be fixed :D

Infinite Recursion

Thanks @ProgramFOX

Go find holes @nicael ... you didn't break SE in a long while. Don't say the devs fixed ALL the bugs :P

Thanks @PatrickHofman, I got the silver

Patrick Hofman

4:19 PM

@InfiniteRecursion No problem. I am still awaiting mine :( meta.stackoverflow.com/a/276637/993547

nicael

@PatrickHofman I am waiting for more serious badge :D

Infinite Recursion

It's just 2 upvotes short...already has my vote :(

Patrick Hofman

@nicael: Got one of those already, but for the answer then: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/266955/993547

Braiam

@nicael mine is very serious, really!

Manishearth

@ProgramFOX Perhaps a different reply? "sorta bad"?

The data would be useful in the future for a crap detector

ProgramFOX

4:25 PM

@Manishearth True. Then we can add those titles to another Bayesian database.

Infinite Recursion

All the posts except nicael's one already have my upvote...all of you wrote great posts :)

user259867

Some good candidates for this job: "Identify low-quality questions on Stack Overflow"...

Infinite Recursion

Also, never use all your votes before waking up, at 5 am @Jan, you keep ranting throughout the day that you can't cast votes...

Jason C

@Rafflesiaarnoldii I propose careersforbots.stackexchange.com

bluefeet

@InfiniteRecursion Before I was a mod I would use all my flags before I got into work at 6am

user259867

4:32 PM

20K users pretty much have to use up delete votes early in the day if they don't want them to be eaten by LQRQ.

Infinite Recursion

Wow @bluefeet .... that's amazing!! o_O

Jason C

I went through a stint of using all my flags before 8am too.

Solution is to not have the review queue open during morning coffee & cigarette.

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion This is really amazing:

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Infinite Recursion

Jan used up his downvotes today...because of the cv requests in the tavern...and every now and then he mentions that he can't downvote + how many hours are left to get his voting powers back. He is weird and annoying.

ProgramFOX

That helpful flags count... I wonder what it would be if there wouldn't be a flag limit :D

Infinite Recursion

4:37 PM

That deserves a star :)

rene

@ProgramFOX Yeah, but 77 flags declined...

Jason C

@ProgramFOX I wonder what % of those flags were from February 2014.

bluefeet

@ProgramFOX I also had 1389 disputed flags

Unihedron

@bluefeet You were an amazing user, and you are an amazing mod. ;)

Infinite Recursion

She was a genuine flagger @JasonC ...I remember I read her election post why she wants to be our mod, and all the mods and Shog recommended her and praised her contributions and flagging abilities. I was new to SO at that time, I voted for her solely based on that post.

ProgramFOX

4:42 PM

@bluefeet Those might come from "invalid flag" flags from the time when the 10k tools still existed.

Jason C

I voted for bluefeet, too. I didn't mean that to come across the way it did.

Infinite Recursion

:)

user259867

Mathematically speaking, at 100 flags/day limit it could be at most 2900, which is about 1% of total..

Jason C

(13%)

Unihedron