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Infinite Recursion

16:01

Related to this is the question of "why are comments auto-generated on my behalf when I type in a custom off-topic closure reason?" Just today, I had someone complain that I was a "keyboardwarrior" (whatever that is) in response to an auto-generated close comment. One wonders what the purpose of those are. If the community doesn't agree with me and the question never gets closed, then my voice doesn't really matter. And if they do, it's redundant. — Cody Gray 15 hours ago

TIL keyboardwarrior

Unihedron

Keyboardwarrior > cyber policemen

GnomeSlice

Social Justice Warriors!

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Infinite Recursion

@Bart: ^Someone called your team member a keyboard warrior

Jan Dvorak

kill-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/25788760/…

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak mouse warriors closed it

Unihedron

16:08

@SterlingArcher Honestly, if I had that much more time I would revise my downvotes cast so I could reverse the improved posts as well. But there's so much to moderate I only give them fifteen minutes. And only answers as well, I bet if questions were worth salvaging and actually gets salvaged it would get enough upvotes for being clear to counter the rep lost from dvs.

Braiam

@JanDvorak tl;dr kill-pls hosting

Jan Dvorak

now accepting delvotes ;-)

Unihedron

@Braiam too late, dead

Vogel612

I am outta here ...

Sterling Archer

@Unihedron oh there's definitely a time limit for the to fix otherwise I stop as well

Jan Dvorak

16:08

@Unihedron the entire tag?

Vogel612

See you around ;)

Bart

@InfiniteRecursion we're on it

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Vogel612

Toodles!

Unihedron

bye bye @vog

ProgramFOX

@Vogel612 See you!

Sam

16:09

Bye!

Unihedron

@JanDvorak muahahahaha

SilentKiller

@Vogel612 bye bye

Unihedron

@GnomeSlice Aww, it's not free. I bet it's worth the dollar though.

GnomeSlice

@Unihedron If you get it here you get a Desura code and a Steam code if/when it gets on the platform

Infinite Recursion

So, which camp of user do you fall into? — Cody Gray 14 hours ago

Camp sounds glassy

Unihedron

16:18

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 31 at 15:51, by Unihedron

I'm between 1 and an invisible group which hunts for good questions (still)

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 31 at 15:52, by Sam

Same here :/

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 31 at 15:52, by ProgramFOX

Same here.

(poke @Sam @Pro)

ProgramFOX

Yep, exactly.

Sam

@Unihedron Yep.

Infinite Recursion

I switched to bounty questions recently. Am supposed to get a bounty tonite :D

Unihedron

Congrats!

My problem with bounty questions is that someone else comes up with a better solution most of the time.

Sterling Archer

Not smart enough for bounty questions :(

Unihedron

16:22

I found one about parsing HTML with regex. hmm..

Infinite Recursion

Haha...everybody knows the answer. Who placed a bounty on that?

Sam

@InfiniteRecursion Congrats!

Unihedron

It's about highlighting and attributes. stackoverflow.com/q/25121092/3622940

Infinite Recursion

@Sam Thanks Uni, Sam

Unihedron

Honestly, I find posting a link to the question in a relevant SO chat room way more useful advertising than having a bounty.

Infinite Recursion

16:24

@Unihedron Go ahead and write something creative like bobince

Sam

@Uni Btw I think I've fixed the bug that kept killing the bot (famous last words)...

Unihedron

@Sam Websockets? Rene broke the bot when I was running it once as well

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron A lot of users avoid chat for good reasons.

Unihedron

Gotcha.

Sam

@Unihedron No, no. I didn't use websockets. I think the bot died when it tried to post a message if it was already throttled.

Infinite Recursion

16:27

@Sam Congrats

Unihedron

@Sam Yeah, that happens.

Sam

So I've added my rate limit function to fix it (hopefully).

@InfiniteRecursion Thx.

Jan Dvorak

@Sam temporary?

Sam

@JanDvorak Nope, permanent.

Jan Dvorak

hm...

Infinite Recursion

16:29

ha..

Unihedron

How about if the last message has been posted with the throttle limit, concatenate it onto the next message to post?

Sam

@Unihedron Nah, that'd look ugly.

Besides, I've already implemented it.

Unihedron

Yeah, I realized too. Just throwing it out there.

ProgramFOX

@Sam There is a way to see how long you have to wait before you can post a message. That way, you actually don't have to use a rate limit function. If you are throttled, the time is in the response: github.com/Manishearth/ChatExchange/blob/master/chatexchange/…

Infinite Recursion

Doesn't matter if ugly

Spam and VLQ are ugly once you open them...so...

Sam

16:31

@ProgramFOX Yes, it is possible (and more complex). But I just can't be bothered to change the code now.

Unihedron

@Sam Are you going to put the bot in his own room, or?

ProgramFOX

@Sam It is actually less complex IMO.

Unihedron

naa | vlq stackoverflow.com/a/25739055/3622940

Sam

@Unihedron this room?

Unihedron

Constant inflow of possible lq questions? :P

Sam

16:34

@ProgramFOX That's what I'm using atm. Doing it the other way would involve timers, more global vars, etc.

@Unihedron Ok, I'll bring it in... Guys (and duck) let me know if it gets too much.

Unihedron

(shivers)

Brace yourselves...

ProgramFOX

@Sam That code looks nice! Just shared another way, might be helpful if you ever need it.

Sam

It's not that bad.

Yekoms started...

Unihedron

Need a cooler name for the bot :))

Sam

Oh isn't that typical. A bug...

@Unihedron I'm open to suggestions ;)

Unihedron

16:38

2 hours ago, by Unihedron

Phamhilator @Andy

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron it's Smokey backwards

Unihedron

@JanDvorak I do realize - my other sock is Nordehinu.

Infinite Recursion

@Sam Sure. I am staring at the messages constantly. I never turn my head

Sam

Yekoms started...

There, bug fixed.

Unihedron

Now you have two other bugs? :o

Sam

16:41

Alright, "Phamhilator" it is...

Jan Dvorak

Karovd Naj - see? I'm from Asia now

Sam

@Unihedron Nope, all known bugs are now fixed.

Unihedron

Keyword: Known. :)

Are LQ posts off?

Sam

No.

I'll double check though...

Low Quality reports disabled.

Low Quality reports enabled.

Infinite Recursion

Sam scan, Care-taker?

Unihedron

16:43

Does your bot scrap html from /realtime, Sam, so I can stare at that tab and expect your bot to jump when I see a question that looks lq?

Sam

@Unihedron Yep.

Infinite Recursion

@Sam Sorry, saw that now. Phamhilator is best :)

Sam

Np.

Yekoms started...

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak Pay a friendly visit to baba while you are there, and keyboard him

Sam

Low quality (possible): Non-stationary capacitor, by Fabio, on physics.stackexchange.com.

Low quality: Why does this jQuery code not working on Firefox?, by Gus, on codereview.stackexchange.com.

Jan Dvorak

16:47

the latter actually is

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@Bart: ^Please lend a keyboard to Jan

Sam

Low quality (possible): Curve Stitching, by James Williams, on codegolf.stackexchange.com.

(Just a word of warning, it may still be inaccurate.)

Low quality: Remove element id, by user14186, on magento.stackexchange.com.

Infinite Recursion

7

A: Prevent low-rep (readonly) chat users from showing up in user lists

This is probably not the final solution (more ideas still welcome! A 300 rep bounty awaits!), but I wanted to have something done now, because these morons are just wasting too much of everybody's time. So for now, users with less than 20 rep will appear as the "anonymous shape": Th...

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Jan Dvorak

reposted, restarred

Sam

Low quality (possible): Microsoft Query Error: Too few parameters. Expected 2, by 114, on superuser.com.

Low quality (possible): Failing Hard Drive, by Wayne, on apple.stackexchange.com.

Low quality (possible): swaying and bowing, by Chiddushei Torah, on judaism.stackexchange.com.

Infinite Recursion

16:52

@JanDvorak Mistake, but won't delete. I heard deleting breaks the transcript.

Sam

Low quality (possible): ramfs not using ram, by Flatron, on askubuntu.com.

Jan Dvorak

I don't feel like moderating the quality on most of the sites

Unihedron

I agree, @Jan

Sam

I can disable LQ reports, or even put the bot in "quiet mode" if you like.

ProgramFOX

@Sam What about moving the bot to another room? It seems like it will be flooding the Tavern with LQ posts.

Unihedron

16:53

Maybe users can subscribe to specific sites to recieve a ping when there's a relevant post over the site.

Infinite Recursion

^^

Sam

Low quality (possible): Please help identify this movie, by graham, on movies.stackexchange.com.

Sure, which one?

Phamhilator™ paused...

Unihedron

> chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/new

ProgramFOX

Low Quality Posts HQ

Home of bots for catching low quality posts (and sometimes spa...

@Sam ^

Sam

@ProgramFOX Kk.

Phamhilator™ stopped.

Unihedron

16:55

Low quality (possible): My shell script SH DOES NOT EXECUTE ON UBUNTU NOR ON GNOME SERVER, by reda salim, on askubuntu.com.

Andy

@Sam I keep seeing that as "Phlegm"

Infinite Recursion

@Andy Uni and I suggested and supported it :( #blameus

Unihedron

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHAT'S THE MEANING OF “WHY” AS AN INTERJECTION? on english.stackexchange.com

Andy

What if I just call it "Phlegm" as a loving nickname and not with malice? Is that ok?

Sam

I'm fine with that.

Unihedron

16:58

@Andy Sounds good. :P

Infinite Recursion

^^

Unihedron

Meh, smokey hasn't said anything since the startup...

Sam

One bot leaves and another joins :P

Jan Dvorak

inb4 mine starts posting here antonomously

Infinite Recursion

Spam is lower today, compared to a regular Friday

Then the tavern should add where edge cases get resolved and spam detector bots lurk...

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Sam

17:03

^^

Jan Dvorak

spam detector bots

Infinite Recursion

inb4 Jan's grammar corrector bot joins the tavern

SilentKiller

night

Unihedron

... Oh, I reversed where the link text and the url goes.

Infinite Recursion

Hiya @J.Musser

J. Musser

17:08

@InfiniteRecursion Hiya

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion If I do manage to parse the english grammar, I might plug it into Spam Canary as a nonsense-detector

Unihedron

:D

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak wonders how bjb will react to that

please allow kitten grammar and shoutcase

Aug 15 at 3:27, by bjb568

0

Q: hau i steelz dimondz

i iz on metaz and i nedz dimond how i get i need diamond pastry sayz n heer hoow i steelz dimondz plz answr qwery ty -bjb comment ax fr code here iz http://jsfiddle.net/agje1cax/ EDIT alos hear eat pastry cupcake if no haz dimondz mst hve y no werk

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion it... really posted that?

ProgramFOX

@Unihedron Apparently.

Jan Dvorak

17:16

@Unihedron yes. Mod deleted after two downvotes and two closevotes

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron yes

J. Musser

Oops! There was a problem updating your profile:
Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again in 17 hours

Infinite Recursion

@J.Musser Try the hack that "Unihedron's sock" used

J. Musser

@InfiniteRecursion Hmmm.

Unihedron

Speaking of my sock, I shall get him more rep.

Infinite Recursion

17:19

@Unihedron It's your sock, you should know ;)

J. Musser

Silence in the shadows den

Infinite Recursion

You missed a lot of noise in the tavern today. It was annoying, noisy, chaotic till Sam's bot made it's grand debut.

Unihedron

dv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/25813570/…

J. Musser

7 hours ago, by Jan Dvorak

bam, ignored

Then?^^

Unihedron

@J.Musser then... he got ignored, and I posted a gif which had three stars btw

Jan Dvorak

17:25

@InfiniteRecursion *Its

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak sorry, too late.

Unihedron

@Unihedron gone

Hmm, when I ping myself I get a desktop notification... kewl!!

Jan Dvorak

@JanDvorak nice

Infinite Recursion

@J.Musser girl...jan...girl...jan...jan...bam...silence

2

J. Musser

@InfiniteRecursion Nice.

Bart

17:33

@InfiniteRecursion now there's something that requires context.

3

Infinite Recursion

@Bart Nonsense often lacks context. That's what makes it infinitely intolerable.

J. Musser

asdfkjd;fdlsyugkgrjbnvxmc. lvk;cinoghfgdxznfmv/bcxlinvufhxkgzdn

(no context)

Jan Dvorak

@J.Musser english, please

Infinite Recursion

I thought the wind was blowing and you got uprooted

Ground yourself please

J. Musser

I was merely typing nonsense with no context. :)

2 mins ago, by Infinite Recursion

@Bart Nonsense often lacks context. That's what makes it infinitely intolerable.

Unihedron

17:38

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/25339279/3622940

Infinite Recursion

@Bart's vision is impeccable. He finds context in everything.

rene

@Unihedron closed by Jan

MrLore

When did "Too minor" disappear as an edit rejection reason? I can't find the thread about it and whoever did it definitely needs to be downvoted

Undo

That's what's missing from that dialog.

Good riddance, IMO.

Unihedron

@MrLore chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/58120/…

Jan Dvorak

17:42

@MrLore the last I've seen Shog9's answer being at -9

Unihedron

By the way hi @MrLore I see you around minecraft questions :-)

Infinite Recursion

87

Q: Disappearance of "too minor" -- where is the relevant discussion?

I just went to review suggested edits and found my set of rejection criteria reduced to the following: copied content invalid edit radical change vandalism custom I assume the disappearance of "too minor" is deliberate policy -- either the option was removed entirely or perhaps it was set to ...

discussion review

J. Musser

49

Q: What should be used in place of "Too Minor?"

Now that "Too Minor" is gone, what is the new workflow for suggested edits? The original "Too Minor" reason suggested that, if you're going to make an edit, that you need to fix all of the things that are broken in the post, not just one. Someone on Meta.SO pointed out that "Too Minor" is also ...

discussion suggested-edits

MrLore

@Unihedron Hi there :)

Infinite Recursion

Hi @MrLore

ɥʇǝS

17:45

I really hate too minor's disappearance. Brings back bad memories of when they pulled too localized.

MrLore

Ahh good to know I wasn't the only one that missed it

Unihedron

Remember to Reject and Edit minor suggested edits! But don't Reject and Edit audits.

Just reject those.

Jan Dvorak

@ɥʇǝS we have survived that (kinda)

@Unihedron .... which is really confuzzling

Infinite Recursion

@MrLore No, lots of posts came on Meta and were closed as dupes

Sam

I've gtg, see you guys later.

rene

17:48

@Unihedron Huh, some bad experience with those ;)

Unihedron

Meh, I find myself more productive now that I don't stay in the queues 2/3 of my life.

J. Musser

18:09

@Sam See ya

Unihedron

18:21

cv stackoverflow.com/q/2206182/3622940

vlq stackoverflow.com/a/3378386/3622940

Sterling Archer

sigh link only answers...

Unihedron

sigh 978 "thanks so much!" comments left..

Jan Dvorak

EEEK why are the close reasons reordered?

Unihedron

@JanDvorak they are?

J. Musser

I'm terrible at making the FOX 9000 bot in the den do stuff. But oh well. I have a better vocabulary.

@JanDvorak you scream like a girl.

Jan Dvorak

18:32

Flabaliki is great at screaming like a little girl

J. Musser

@JanDvorak You should say, "AARRGH". Not, "EEEK". :D

Unihedron

naa | vlq ^2 stackoverflow.com/a/7776053/3622940

J. Musser

I WANT SPAM

this is boring.

Unihedron

flag comments?

Jan Dvorak

@J.Musser close the CVQ

J. Musser

18:37

@JanDvorak I don't have rep for review. :)

Jan Dvorak

@J.Musser VLQQ

J. Musser

@JanDvorak I have 101 rep on SO.

Unihedron

Anyone know if lostsock is flag/review/post-banned yet?

bjb568

Hip hip array! Date is Friday!

Ben Collins

@Unihedron sigh. That whole post (Q and As) are just awful. Going to give them about an hour to get it fixed before I just nuke it.

Jan Dvorak

18:41

@Unihedron should he be?

Unihedron

@BenCollins It was three years ago, 7 rep guy was last seen Sat Dec 24 2011, the -3 post author was last seen 55 minutes ago, and he probably doesn't care anymore; the question poster was last seen Sat Feb 05 2011, so I'd be surprised if you get feedback. But thanks for the follow up, good work!

Ben Collins

oh, you're right. didn't notice the date. So......nuking

Unihedron

kaboom

Ben Collins

friday good deed: done. Now back to work.

bjb568

@Unihedron That was what I was thinking...

Unihedron

18:43

nice workin'

@bjb568 I must be your sock then..

bjb568

@Unihedron °u°

I'm in mobile safari here... 12 tabs open local, 15 on computer. Need to clear some things of my stack...

Unihedron

(thinks @bjb is on a build-up to a stack overflow pun)

MrLore

I thought you meant you were shooting animals from a car for a second there

Forgot about the browser

bjb568

@Unihedron ... If I don't I'd stackoverflow!

Unihedron

Out of comment flags.

J. Musser

18:51

Not out of comment flags.

Unihedron

I'm jealous..

Jan Dvorak

In other news: comment voting rate limit now gone

Unihedron

@JanDvorak Really!

(Right after I use up my daily vote allowance :P)

Attention, library thread! cv-pls clean up the answers if you can stackoverflow.com/q/5530750/3622940 the question is a useful one

bjb568

@JanDvorak That took effect a long time ago.

MrLore

Maybe the UI team didn't get the memo? Mine still says 11 left today

Jan Dvorak

19:00

@MrLore the "1 per 5 seconds" part, not the "x per day' one

Unihedron

@MrLore rate limit as in the "you have to wait 5 seconds" thing I think

MrLore

Ahh I see

And I just realised that sound effect was the chatroom

I was watching TNG before and assumed it was the show, it was obvious now I'm on Game of Thrones :P

Unihedron

@JanDvorak flagging rate limit is still here :(

SmokeDetector

19:16

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INTEGRATIONN HELP NEEDED on math.stackexchange.com

Frank

hi there. where the heck are the SE's about pages linked from now? i've been adding "/about" to the url to find the short description of each site. yes, i am already a member, but it's nice to check the question domain when determining which site to use. kthx

bjb568

Frank

ah, thanks

Jan Dvorak

@Frank asking/on-topic

example.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic

Frank

that's useful, too. thanks

TGMCians

19:21

\o

Unihedron

@Frank write [tour] in a comment, it automatically links to help center scrollpage

watching my flags getting rated as helpful :)

o/

Frank

ah, neat

rene

19:38

174

A: Add data.SE style "magic links" to comments

Most of these now work. My comment below has the following markdown source: On [main], you are expected to write proper English (as advertised on [english.se]), but here on [meta.se] it's more important to have freehand circles, so please [edit] your post, otherwise I'll have to flag you (see...

J. Musser

20:06

Oh, Frank.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW DO I BACKUP/RESTORE DATABASE ENCRYPTION KEY IN ORDER TO RESTORE ON NEW SERVER on dba.stackexchange.com

J. Musser

I'm user #419 on GL. Makes it seem like I was one of first people there. :)

I wanted to be #1

J. Musser

20:50

gives everyone an apple

Sam

Hiya

J. Musser

Hiya

Sam

21:08

Phamhilator™ started...

Low quality (possible): metacharacters question, by Noureddine Youssfi, on unix.stackexchange.com.

Phamhilator™ stopped.

Oops.

J. Musser

@Sam Better be.

Sam

Started it in the wrong room ^_^

J. Musser

@Sam So I saw.

Sam

21:33

I'm off to bed, night all.

J. Musser

@Sam Night

bjb568

@Sam Night

J. Musser

22:12

@Sam Day

Ha!

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

14 secs ago, by J. Musser

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

10 secs ago, by J. Musser

14 secs ago, by J. Musser

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

11 secs ago, by J. Musser

10 secs ago, by J. Musser

14 secs ago, by J. Musser

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

Just testing how fast I am. :)

Doing a geargle sooch

*google search

for a picture of bjb when he gets old.

lostsock

22:56

@J.Musser find one yet?

J. Musser

@lostsock still looking

Bad enough?

lostsock

^ nope

possible?

J. Musser

@lostsock His wife, maybe

Ok...

Bad enough?

lostsock

that's good

J. Musser

@bjb568^^

@lostsock Or...

lostsock

23:03

@J.Musser that's @bart though

J. Musser

@lostsock Oh yeah. Nice

bjb568

@J.Musser Not loping forward to that…

J. Musser

*looking

bjb568

ugh, too late to edit

Low Quality Posts HQ

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