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4:01 PM

Related to this is the question of "why are comments auto-generated on my behalf when I type in a custom off-topic closure reason?" Just today, I had someone complain that I was a "keyboardwarrior" (whatever that is) in response to an auto-generated close comment. One wonders what the purpose of those are. If the community doesn't agree with me and the question never gets closed, then my voice doesn't really matter. And if they do, it's redundant. — Cody Gray 15 hours ago

TIL keyboardwarrior

Keyboardwarrior > cyber policemen

Social Justice Warriors!

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@Bart: ^Someone called your team member a keyboard warrior

kill-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/25788760/…

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@JanDvorak mouse warriors closed it

4:08 PM

@SterlingArcher Honestly, if I had that much more time I would revise my downvotes cast so I could reverse the improved posts as well. But there's so much to moderate I only give them fifteen minutes. And only answers as well, I bet if questions were worth salvaging and actually gets salvaged it would get enough upvotes for being clear to counter the rep lost from dvs.

@JanDvorak tl;dr kill-pls hosting

now accepting delvotes ;-)

@Braiam too late, dead

I am outta here ...

Sterling Archer

@Unihedron oh there's definitely a time limit for the to fix otherwise I stop as well

4:08 PM

@Unihedron the entire tag?

See you around ;)

@InfiniteRecursion we're on it

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Toodles!

bye bye @vog

@Vogel612 See you!

4:09 PM

Bye!

@JanDvorak muahahahaha

@Vogel612 bye bye

@GnomeSlice Aww, it's not free. I bet it's worth the dollar though.

@Unihedron If you get it here you get a Desura code and a Steam code if/when it gets on the platform

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So, which camp of user do you fall into? — Cody Gray 14 hours ago

Camp sounds glassy

4:18 PM

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 31 at 15:51, by Unihedron

I'm between 1 and an invisible group which hunts for good questions (still)

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 31 at 15:52, by Sam

Same here :/

in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 31 at 15:52, by ProgramFOX

Same here.

(poke @Sam @Pro)

Yep, exactly.

@Unihedron Yep.

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I switched to bounty questions recently. Am supposed to get a bounty tonite :D

Congrats!

My problem with bounty questions is that someone else comes up with a better solution most of the time.

Sterling Archer

Not smart enough for bounty questions :(

4:22 PM

I found one about parsing HTML with regex. hmm..

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Haha...everybody knows the answer. Who placed a bounty on that?

@InfiniteRecursion Congrats!

It's about highlighting and attributes. stackoverflow.com/q/25121092/3622940

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@Sam Thanks Uni, Sam

Honestly, I find posting a link to the question in a relevant SO chat room way more useful advertising than having a bounty.

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4:24 PM

@Unihedron Go ahead and write something creative like bobince

@Uni Btw I think I've fixed the bug that kept killing the bot (famous last words)...

@Sam Websockets? Rene broke the bot when I was running it once as well

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@Unihedron A lot of users avoid chat for good reasons.

Gotcha.

@Unihedron No, no. I didn't use websockets. I think the bot died when it tried to post a message if it was already throttled.

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4:27 PM

@Sam Congrats

@Sam Yeah, that happens.

So I've added my rate limit function to fix it (hopefully).

@InfiniteRecursion Thx.

@Sam temporary?

@JanDvorak Nope, permanent.

hm...

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4:29 PM

ha..

How about if the last message has been posted with the throttle limit, concatenate it onto the next message to post?

@Unihedron Nah, that'd look ugly.

Besides, I've already implemented it.

Yeah, I realized too. Just throwing it out there.

@Sam There is a way to see how long you have to wait before you can post a message. That way, you actually don't have to use a rate limit function. If you are throttled, the time is in the response: github.com/Manishearth/ChatExchange/blob/master/chatexchange/…

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Doesn't matter if ugly

Spam and VLQ are ugly once you open them...so...

4:31 PM

@ProgramFOX Yes, it is possible (and more complex). But I just can't be bothered to change the code now.

@Sam Are you going to put the bot in his own room, or?

@Sam It is actually less complex IMO.

naa | vlq stackoverflow.com/a/25739055/3622940

@Unihedron this room?

Constant inflow of possible lq questions? :P

4:34 PM

@ProgramFOX That's what I'm using atm. Doing it the other way would involve timers, more global vars, etc.

@Unihedron Ok, I'll bring it in... Guys (and duck) let me know if it gets too much.

(shivers)

Brace yourselves...

@Sam That code looks nice! Just shared another way, might be helpful if you ever need it.

It's not that bad.

Yekoms started...

Need a cooler name for the bot :))

Oh isn't that typical. A bug...

@Unihedron I'm open to suggestions ;)

4:38 PM

2 hours ago, by Unihedron

Phamhilator @Andy

@Unihedron it's Smokey backwards

@JanDvorak I do realize - my other sock is Nordehinu.

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@Sam Sure. I am staring at the messages constantly. I never turn my head

Yekoms started...

There, bug fixed.

Now you have two other bugs? :o

4:41 PM

Alright, "Phamhilator" it is...

Karovd Naj - see? I'm from Asia now

@Unihedron Nope, all known bugs are now fixed.

Keyword: Known. :)

Are LQ posts off?

No.

I'll double check though...

Low Quality reports disabled.

Low Quality reports enabled.

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Sam scan, Care-taker?

4:43 PM

Does your bot scrap html from /realtime, Sam, so I can stare at that tab and expect your bot to jump when I see a question that looks lq?

@Unihedron Yep.

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@Sam Sorry, saw that now. Phamhilator is best :)

Np.

Yekoms started...

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@JanDvorak Pay a friendly visit to baba while you are there, and keyboard him

Low quality (possible): Non-stationary capacitor, by Fabio, on physics.stackexchange.com.

Low quality: Why does this jQuery code not working on Firefox?, by Gus, on codereview.stackexchange.com.

4:47 PM

the latter actually is

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@Bart: ^Please lend a keyboard to Jan

Low quality (possible): Curve Stitching, by James Williams, on codegolf.stackexchange.com.

(Just a word of warning, it may still be inaccurate.)

Low quality: Remove element id, by user14186, on magento.stackexchange.com.

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A: Prevent low-rep (readonly) chat users from showing up in user lists

This is probably not the final solution (more ideas still welcome! A 300 rep bounty awaits!), but I wanted to have something done now, because these morons are just wasting too much of everybody's time. So for now, users with less than 20 rep will appear as the "anonymous shape": Th...

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reposted, restarred

Low quality (possible): Microsoft Query Error: Too few parameters. Expected 2, by 114, on superuser.com.

Low quality (possible): Failing Hard Drive, by Wayne, on apple.stackexchange.com.

Low quality (possible): swaying and bowing, by Chiddushei Torah, on judaism.stackexchange.com.

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4:52 PM

@JanDvorak Mistake, but won't delete. I heard deleting breaks the transcript.

Low quality (possible): ramfs not using ram, by Flatron, on askubuntu.com.

I don't feel like moderating the quality on most of the sites

I agree, @Jan

I can disable LQ reports, or even put the bot in "quiet mode" if you like.

@Sam What about moving the bot to another room? It seems like it will be flooding the Tavern with LQ posts.

4:53 PM

Maybe users can subscribe to specific sites to recieve a ping when there's a relevant post over the site.

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^^

Low quality (possible): Please help identify this movie, by graham, on movies.stackexchange.com.

Sure, which one?

Phamhilator™ paused...

> chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/new

Low Quality Posts HQ

Home of bots for catching low quality posts (and sometimes spa...

@Sam ^

@ProgramFOX Kk.

Phamhilator™ stopped.

4:55 PM

Low quality (possible): My shell script SH DOES NOT EXECUTE ON UBUNTU NOR ON GNOME SERVER, by reda salim, on askubuntu.com.

@Sam I keep seeing that as "Phlegm"

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@Andy Uni and I suggested and supported it :( #blameus

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHAT'S THE MEANING OF “WHY” AS AN INTERJECTION? on english.stackexchange.com

What if I just call it "Phlegm" as a loving nickname and not with malice? Is that ok?

I'm fine with that.

4:58 PM

@Andy Sounds good. :P

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^^

Meh, smokey hasn't said anything since the startup...

One bot leaves and another joins :P

inb4 mine starts posting here antonomously

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Spam is lower today, compared to a regular Friday

Then the tavern should add where edge cases get resolved and spam detector bots lurk...

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5:03 PM

^^

spam detector bots

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inb4 Jan's grammar corrector bot joins the tavern

night

... Oh, I reversed where the link text and the url goes.

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Hiya @J.Musser

5:08 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Hiya

@InfiniteRecursion If I do manage to parse the english grammar, I might plug it into Spam Canary as a nonsense-detector

:D

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@JanDvorak wonders how bjb will react to that

please allow kitten grammar and shoutcase

Aug 15 at 3:27, by bjb568

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Q: hau i steelz dimondz

i iz on metaz and i nedz dimond how i get i need diamond pastry sayz n heer hoow i steelz dimondz plz answr qwery ty -bjb comment ax fr code here iz http://jsfiddle.net/agje1cax/ EDIT alos hear eat pastry cupcake if no haz dimondz mst hve y no werk

@InfiniteRecursion it... really posted that?

@Unihedron Apparently.

5:16 PM

@Unihedron yes. Mod deleted after two downvotes and two closevotes

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@Unihedron yes

Oops! There was a problem updating your profile:
Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again in 17 hours

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@J.Musser Try the hack that "Unihedron's sock" used

@InfiniteRecursion Hmmm.

Speaking of my sock, I shall get him more rep.

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5:19 PM

@Unihedron It's your sock, you should know ;)

Silence in the shadows den

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You missed a lot of noise in the tavern today. It was annoying, noisy, chaotic till Sam's bot made it's grand debut.

dv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/25813570/…

7 hours ago, by Jan Dvorak

bam, ignored

Then?^^

@J.Musser then... he got ignored, and I posted a gif which had three stars btw

5:25 PM

@InfiniteRecursion *Its

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@JanDvorak sorry, too late.

@Unihedron gone

Hmm, when I ping myself I get a desktop notification... kewl!!

@JanDvorak nice

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@J.Musser girl...jan...girl...jan...jan...bam...silence

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@InfiniteRecursion Nice.

5:33 PM

@InfiniteRecursion now there's something that requires context.

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@Bart Nonsense often lacks context. That's what makes it infinitely intolerable.

asdfkjd;fdlsyugkgrjbnvxmc. lvk;cinoghfgdxznfmv/bcxlinvufhxkgzdn

(no context)

@J.Musser english, please

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I thought the wind was blowing and you got uprooted

Ground yourself please

I was merely typing nonsense with no context. :)

2 mins ago, by Infinite Recursion

@Bart Nonsense often lacks context. That's what makes it infinitely intolerable.

5:38 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/25339279/3622940

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@Bart's vision is impeccable. He finds context in everything.

@Unihedron closed by Jan

When did "Too minor" disappear as an edit rejection reason? I can't find the thread about it and whoever did it definitely needs to be downvoted

That's what's missing from that dialog.

Good riddance, IMO.

Please don't approve minor or invalid…

5:42 PM

@MrLore the last I've seen Shog9's answer being at -9

By the way hi @MrLore I see you around minecraft questions :-)

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Q: Disappearance of "too minor" -- where is the relevant discussion?

I just went to review suggested edits and found my set of rejection criteria reduced to the following: copied content invalid edit radical change vandalism custom I assume the disappearance of "too minor" is deliberate policy -- either the option was removed entirely or perhaps it was set to ...

discussion review

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Q: What should be used in place of "Too Minor?"

Now that "Too Minor" is gone, what is the new workflow for suggested edits? The original "Too Minor" reason suggested that, if you're going to make an edit, that you need to fix all of the things that are broken in the post, not just one. Someone on Meta.SO pointed out that "Too Minor" is also ...

discussion suggested-edits

@Unihedron Hi there :)

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Hi @MrLore

5:45 PM

I really hate too minor's disappearance. Brings back bad memories of when they pulled too localized.

Ahh good to know I wasn't the only one that missed it

Remember to Reject and Edit minor suggested edits! But don't Reject and Edit audits.

Just reject those.

@ɥʇǝS we have survived that (kinda)

@Unihedron .... which is really confuzzling

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@MrLore No, lots of posts came on Meta and were closed as dupes

I've gtg, see you guys later.

5:48 PM

@Unihedron Huh, some bad experience with those ;)

Meh, I find myself more productive now that I don't stay in the queues 2/3 of my life.

6:09 PM

@Sam See ya

6:21 PM

cv stackoverflow.com/q/2206182/3622940

vlq stackoverflow.com/a/3378386/3622940

Sterling Archer

sigh link only answers...

sigh 978 "thanks so much!" comments left..

EEEK why are the close reasons reordered?

@JanDvorak they are?

I'm terrible at making the FOX 9000 bot in the den do stuff. But oh well. I have a better vocabulary.

@JanDvorak you scream like a girl.

6:32 PM

Flabaliki is great at screaming like a little girl

@JanDvorak You should say, "AARRGH". Not, "EEEK". :D

naa | vlq ^2 stackoverflow.com/a/7776053/3622940

I WANT SPAM

this is boring.

flag comments?

@J.Musser close the CVQ

6:37 PM

@JanDvorak I don't have rep for review. :)

@J.Musser VLQQ

@JanDvorak I have 101 rep on SO.

Anyone know if lostsock is flag/review/post-banned yet?

Hip hip array! Date is Friday!

@Unihedron sigh. That whole post (Q and As) are just awful. Going to give them about an hour to get it fixed before I just nuke it.

6:41 PM

@Unihedron should he be?

@BenCollins It was three years ago, 7 rep guy was last seen Sat Dec 24 2011, the -3 post author was last seen 55 minutes ago, and he probably doesn't care anymore; the question poster was last seen Sat Feb 05 2011, so I'd be surprised if you get feedback. But thanks for the follow up, good work!

oh, you're right. didn't notice the date. So......nuking

kaboom

friday good deed: done. Now back to work.

@Unihedron That was what I was thinking...

6:43 PM

nice workin'

@bjb568 I must be your sock then..

@Unihedron °u°

I'm in mobile safari here... 12 tabs open local, 15 on computer. Need to clear some things of my stack...

(thinks @bjb is on a build-up to a stack overflow pun)

I thought you meant you were shooting animals from a car for a second there

Forgot about the browser

@Unihedron ... If I don't I'd stackoverflow!

Out of comment flags.

6:51 PM

Not out of comment flags.

I'm jealous..

In other news: comment voting rate limit now gone

@JanDvorak Really!

(Right after I use up my daily vote allowance :P)

Attention, library thread! cv-pls clean up the answers if you can stackoverflow.com/q/5530750/3622940 the question is a useful one

@JanDvorak That took effect a long time ago.

Maybe the UI team didn't get the memo? Mine still says 11 left today

7:00 PM

@MrLore the "1 per 5 seconds" part, not the "x per day' one

@MrLore rate limit as in the "you have to wait 5 seconds" thing I think

Ahh I see

And I just realised that sound effect was the chatroom

I was watching TNG before and assumed it was the show, it was obvious now I'm on Game of Thrones :P

@JanDvorak flagging rate limit is still here :(

7:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INTEGRATIONN HELP NEEDED on math.stackexchange.com

hi there. where the heck are the SE's about pages linked from now? i've been adding "/about" to the url to find the short description of each site. yes, i am already a member, but it's nice to check the question domain when determining which site to use. kthx

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ah, thanks

@Frank asking/on-topic

example.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic

that's useful, too. thanks

7:21 PM

\o

@Frank write [tour] in a comment, it automatically links to help center scrollpage

watching my flags getting rated as helpful :)

o/

ah, neat

7:38 PM

174

A: Add data.SE style "magic links" to comments

Most of these now work. My comment below has the following markdown source: On [main], you are expected to write proper English (as advertised on [english.se]), but here on [meta.se] it's more important to have freehand circles, so please [edit] your post, otherwise I'll have to flag you (see...

8:06 PM

Oh, Frank.

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW DO I BACKUP/RESTORE DATABASE ENCRYPTION KEY IN ORDER TO RESTORE ON NEW SERVER on dba.stackexchange.com

I'm user #419 on GL. Makes it seem like I was one of first people there. :)

I wanted to be #1

8:50 PM

gives everyone an apple

Hiya

Hiya

9:08 PM

Phamhilator™ started...

Low quality (possible): metacharacters question, by Noureddine Youssfi, on unix.stackexchange.com.

Phamhilator™ stopped.

Oops.

@Sam Better be.

Started it in the wrong room ^_^

@Sam So I saw.

9:33 PM

I'm off to bed, night all.

@Sam Night

@Sam Night

10:12 PM

@Sam Day

Ha!

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

14 secs ago, by J. Musser

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

10 secs ago, by J. Musser

14 secs ago, by J. Musser

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

11 secs ago, by J. Musser

10 secs ago, by J. Musser

14 secs ago, by J. Musser

18 secs ago, by J. Musser

Ha!

Just testing how fast I am. :)

Doing a geargle sooch

*google search

for a picture of bjb when he gets old.

10:56 PM

@J.Musser find one yet?

@lostsock still looking

Bad enough?

^ nope

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possible?

@lostsock His wife, maybe

Ok...

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Bad enough?

that's good

@bjb568^^

@lostsock Or...

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11:03 PM

@J.Musser that's @bart though

@lostsock Oh yeah. Nice

@J.Musser Not loping forward to that…

*looking

ugh, too late to edit

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