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BDillan

00:28

Where can I ask questions why good questions were put on Hold? Is Meta appropriate?

Braiam

@BDillan try to fix it first :/

BDillan

-1

Q: Java - Linking a Linked-list onto the Tail of another?

I am having trouble hitching linkedlists together. Imagine you were given two linkedlists of the same Object and wanted to merge them together so after the tail of the currentlist another list wad added. Here I include the linkNodes method within the Nodes class so it takes the current instan...

Im going to complain against the mods

This is ridiculous

Braiam

could you remove the "Java -" from the title, there's already tags for that

btw, what was the result of the code you wrote?

BDillan

Its part of a much larger program, I get a error with a draw method associated with it

But it would be even more unclear if I put the error

Braiam

why don't you try a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example that reproduces the error?

Doorknob

00:34

I've copy edited it a bit to improve the quality.

Braiam

stackoverflow.com/help/mcve

BDillan

Thankyou

hichris123

@BDillan 4 reopen votes.

There you go @BDillan!

BDillan

I appreciate it. Thankyou guys

Blue Ice

01:06

I love pho!

i had it for dinner and you should too.

Yum.

This message is brought to you by the Pho Council of America.

0

Q: What flavor of SOAP is defined by this WSDL, and how to consume it with PHP?

We have a PHP application which needs to connect to this SOAP web service—here's the WSDL: https://arixss.arifleet.com/QA/DriveAwayWS/DriveAwaySrvc.svc?wsdl The vendor claims it uses "WS-Security (wsHttpBinding)". This doesn't mean much to me, as I don't have experience beyond "normal" unauthent...

php soap wsdl ws-security

If you didn't know what the acronyms meant:

Why is this PHP guy eating flavored soap?

2

Doorknob

Messages by the PCA are not sponsored by the US Government, The Freemasons, the Illuminati, Scientology, FEMA, the New World Order, the Federal Reserve, Citigroup, Halliburton, Google, the Vatican, Bilderburg, Walmart, the Rothschilds, the Knights Templar, HAARP, the UN, Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, the Koch Brothers, George Soros, the Trilateral Commision, the Knights of Malta, the CFR, Exxon Mobil, the Zionists, the Vril Society, the Lizard People, or any other official or fictional thing

Blue Ice

But, HAARP!

HAARP (album)

HAARP is a live album and video by English alternative rock band Muse, released on 17 March 2008 in the United Kingdom and 1 April 2008 in the United States. The CD documents the band's performance at London's Wembley Stadium on 16 June 2007, while the DVD contains 20 tracks from the performance on 17 June. The total number of audiences watching the band's shows on 16 and 17 June 2007 was 180,000 (150,000 seated and 30,000 standing). It was named the 40th greatest live album of all time by NME in 2010. Set design For their performances at Wembley, Muse had the stadium decked out with m...

Jason C

stackoverflow.com/questions/1777556/alternatives-to-gprof

Why are so many people voting to undelete that...?

Doorknob

@JasonC No idea.

Louis

Can't see it so I have no clue.

It's a can-I-haz-tool question?

animuson

01:22

I was about to say it has an awesome answer then I realized the answer doesn't even... answer the question?

Doorknob

animuson

Seems like a long drawn-out explanation of why the tool for which he wants an alternative shouldn't be used.

Doorknob

...wat. Imgur jpg-compressed it. :(

Meh, best I can do :P

Louis

@Doorknob Thanks.

Doorknob

@Louis Only ~500 rep until you can see deleted posts too!

Louis

01:24

Yup

Blue Ice

:(

only 7,300 for me

Louis

@BlueIce just gotta eat your waffles, and it'll happen.

Blue Ice

And I'll grow big and strong.

Doorknob

Completely off-topic: I just gave my profile "about" section an overhaul :P

Blue Ice

Wowie zowie @Doorknob! Looks... new!

I need to update my about page at some point also...

Laszlo Papp

01:34

-2

Q: Cant read and write to serial port in QT

I am using Qt 5.1. I have a board which is programmed to respond to a set of RS-232 messages. I tried making a PC client to send a set of messages to the board so that I can test the response. The boards expects a message every second and then responds to it. But I could not read or write prope...

c++ qt qtserialport

CV please.

Doorknob

01:48

@animuson Lol, Norton thinks your website is attacking it:

animuson

It's this crappy VPS I use.

Jason C

Maybe it is. Would you trust a guy with big ears and fuzzy paws?

hichris123

@Doorknob Is attacking what?

Doorknob

@hichris123 My computer?

hichris123

Oh. :P

animuson

01:54

Fixed now. Temporarily.

Laszlo Papp

02:36

0

Q: C++ Code Coverage Tools with Visual Studio Integration

currently working on a school project that requires us to use a code coverage tool. We are using the native VS2012 unit testing framework, which I know Microsoft supports code coverage for with VS Ultimate, but we don't have that. What is a good tool that integrates with VS2012 via a plugin perha...

c++ visual-studio-2012

I would personally close it.

Blue Ice

03:16

@LaszloPapp I'm with you.

cv-worthy stackoverflow.com/questions/22902999/…

cv-this-too stackoverflow.com/questions/22903039/…

Jason C

05:09

If a new user posts an answer on a 5 year old question, and that answer is correct but is also pretty much a duplicate of the other solutions already posted, do we want to keep that answer? Or is that flaggable as something?

0

A: Integrating DISQUS into a Windows 8 app

Thanks for posting this general briefing about API wrapper app store

^ spam

Laszlo Papp

stackoverflow.com/posts/22903969/revisions

why would anyone make this miniature edit to my post?

I think he got pissed off that I pointed out an issue with his answer which got deleted.

@JasonC: thanks, downvoted, marked.

Jan Dvorak

05:27

cv-pls

Jason C

I didn't actually get to score a spam flag with it :'( I reflexively marked it as naa when I saw the "thanks" before I realized it contained that link.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/45493/…

SPAM mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/45494/…

Baba was on the roll tonight; these are the left-overs.

Laszlo Papp

@JanDvorak: cv-pls is empty for me.

Jan Dvorak

@LaszloPapp I've changed my mind upon rereading the question :-/

Laszlo Papp

-1

A: Displaying ActiveReport 7 in LightSwitch application

Has anyone solved this? Please do say how you resolved it. I've had the same issue. Thanks!

Jan Dvorak

05:37

@LaszloPapp how do you manage to find so many of these?

Laszlo Papp

review queues + moderator tools

Blue Ice

05:54

This makes me giggle every time I look at it:

@encadyma Did you eat them?! — Blue Ice Apr 2 at 5:26

Laszlo Papp

-1

A: How to delete an object by id with entity framework

@ acarlon, "context.Users.Delete(u => u.Id == id);" this gives me following exception. "The query must be of type ObjectQuery or DbQuery. Parameter name: source" what i'm doing wrong here?

-1

A: WebDAV standalone server (HttpListener) : Mapping with Windows Explorer impossible

Don't suppose you have the completed code do you? I'm just starting out with a WebDAV server, but instead of pulling it from a database I'm planning on pulling it from the hard drive, but building an offline files part in so it works like offline files but checks if there is a newer version first...

Laszlo Papp

06:19

Your question indicates unfamiliarity with basic C++ syntax. — Mike DeSimone 26 secs ago

I do not understand these posts. Instead of helping, they are just ranting at newbies.

I lack a copy of the C++ standard, so I can't quote "how to call a method" chapter and verse. Sorry for the inconvenience. But this is something a C++ programmer should know before coming here; SO is not a tutorial and teach-languages-from-step-one site. — Mike DeSimone 1 min ago

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Q: What are the pros and cons of XML and JSON?

We're an XML shop (we use both XMPP and RSS/Atom feeds a lot, so I guess we have a little or no choice). Yet, I keep hearing about people who "hate" XML and sometimes refuse to use APIs who can only return XML in favor of JSON. It looks like many many prefer JSON to it, but I'm still not so sure...

xml json

delete votes, please.

Laszlo Papp

07:27

I do not understand people. I got 6-7 downvotes for good answers the last few 1-2 days without any comment.

I must have 1-2 people doing childish revenge because I pointed out a few issues the last 1-2 days in others' answers.

-2

A: Are there any downsides to using double-slashes in URLs?

The Cheap GHD straighteners uk took an exclusive and prudent advancement to housing their likeness by only joining together themselves with hair salon’s and hairdresser, spotting itself as a specialized styling tool, used by professional hairdressers. And amazingly through this approach Cheap GHD...

-1

A: Add audio clip via VBA to PowerPoint Presentation that spans multiple slides

Steve Rindsberg Can you please help me . I need to start sound if the answer is correct . Example: IF textbox.text = 1 then MsgBox ("The Answer is correct ") ''Here the code starts Sound Else Exit sub End IF So , How can do that please? thank you

Stijn

@Lazlo if this keeps happening and the irregular voting script doesn't detect it, you can mail the team to take a look.

Laszlo Papp

I usually stand 1-2 downvotes without explanation, but it is getting uncool after the 5th or 6th within such a short while, even for otherwise upvoted answers (or even selected).

Stijn

@JanDvorak is Baba a meme now or is that still the same guy spamming?

Jan Dvorak

@Stijn I assume the latter

Shadow Wizard

07:45

@animuson 110 socks and only 7 days of suspension? You're too good! ;)

rene

08:01

Morning...

ProgramFOX

Morning!

Stijn

morning

@rene the enthusiasm is dripping of your message

michaelb958

Evening!

rene

Yeah, I'm only on my second coffee yet...so...

Laszlo Papp

and already closed 100 questions. :D

Laszlo Papp

08:16

-2

A: Rails Assets Precompile just not working

Thanks, that was of great help - worked perfectly for me

rene

08:31

Third coffee...

Shadow Wizard

@rene nice, I had only two so far. Third will arrive within 2-3 hours. :)

Hmm... let's test something

oh, no good

Stijn

What was it supposed to be?

Shadow Wizard

Chat doesn't like ASCII coffee

I was trying to copy some coffee from here, @Stijn :)

ProgramFOX

And what happens if you put the ASCII coffee in a code block?

                        (
                          )     (
                   ___...(-------)-....___
               .-""       )    (          ""-.
         .-'``'|-._             )         _.-|
        /  .--.|   `""---...........---""`   |
       /  /    |                             |
       |  |    |                             |
        \  \   |                             |
         `\ `\ |                             |
           `\ `|                             |
           _/ /\                             /

4

Ah, it works!

rene

Nice!

Shadow Wizard

08:40

@ProgramFOX you stole my coffee! ◕︵◕

ProgramFOX

gives the coffee back to @ShadowWizard

michaelb958

gknfengsurkl

10 hours ago, 1 hour 3 minutes total – 37 messages, 5 users, 3 stars

Bookmarked 2 mins ago by michaelb958

ProgramFOX

I'm not sure about this. Is it an answer or should it be a comment?

Bart

It's an answer

Shadow Wizard

Thanks @ProgramFOX! ;)

rene

08:50

It is not the best question which in general attract some low quality answers. But it is an answer.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 what about it? :)

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard I found it a little funny.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 yeah, sometimes people love trying to find logic and context where none of those exist. That poor user was most likely just typing blindly to fill the required 30 characters. :D

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard Happens. hkjcmd gcgruhgkcdscgl kjsdhmra,

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 gkdrog ggijg! fsdgsg gggh? sdngjdgn.... 593mgf adf.

michaelb958

09:02

@ShadowWizard vkyscugluklhkiuigdhc,fd? fklweajxgyoresk kdgjalcmrh8usegk.

Shadow Wizard

Hmm... I have an idea for a cool answer here. Hope I will have time and muse enough to see it through.

Jan Dvorak

09:44

SPAM mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/45507/…

Shadow Wizard

OMG... can it be that he posted it 399,000 (!!!) times?

google.co.uk/#q=%22pao+use+garh+bathe+paye%22

ProgramFOX

And on some sites his spam is still available... :-(

Shadow Wizard

@ProgramFOX yep looks like Stack Exchange is the only place fighting spam with 100% success rate.

Amazing he doesn't give up!

rene

They must have a good bot-net to post that amount of spam. I asume they don't want to pay for the bandwith it would require to post that from your own pre-paid bundle....

Suhosin Pony

10:00

Morning everypony

ProgramFOX

Morning @SuhosinPony!

Shadow Wizard

Lunch time, see ya guys, girls, and Ponies! :D

Louis

10:33

cv-pls-too-broad stackoverflow.com/questions/22908964/…

Louis

10:47

cv-pls-off-site-resource stackoverflow.com/questions/22907354/…

rene

11:06

@Louis the first one is deleted by the owner, the second one has a CV from me

Louis

Great!

Louis

11:31

cv-pls-too-broad stackoverflow.com/questions/22911134/…

rene

12:11

Account is blocked since 12 days... :( and by posting on meta you just added another 12 days to your suspension

Shadow Wizard

@rene yeah, just noticed that.

Don't Mess with the Oded!

rene

That is so true...

Oops we agree...

Shadow Wizard

lol

no icecream for you!

Stijn

@rene got a link?

Jason C

@ShadowWizard That was a good answer thanks (on the 'undelete' meta post).

The mod locky thing is what I was missing.

Shadow Wizard

12:23

@Stijn meta.stackoverflow.com/q/228657/152859 but it's deleted now

Jason C

Ooo did some of those deleted users start posting on meta?

Shadow Wizard

@JasonC cheers, I also found it strange at first (clicked undelete just to be greeted with shiny error message) but got used to it. :)

@JasonC you mean question banned and yes, some of them try their luck on Meta.

Jason C

That didn't take long...

Shadow Wizard

However in the case @rene mentioned the user got account on SO for over two years with some fair questions. Looks like he's right on the edge.

Doorknob

Lol ^

Shadow Wizard

12:28

Yeah we were just discussing this, @Doorknob.

Doorknob

I know; I found the profile via that link.

I've never seen "suspended for posting programming questions on MSO" before. :D

Jason C

Lol

Shadow Wizard

@Doorknob it's quite rare as most users take the hint, looks like that user didn't. Plus, he was rude (naive?) enough to openly admit he's question banned on SO.

rene

Oded choose the 30 day suspension which would indicate a 7 day suspension was given earlier?

Shadow Wizard

@rene not sure, we can't really know.

I saw Tim Post put 40 years suspension in one strike.

rene

12:35

lol

Shadow Wizard

Yeah, it was the Indian teenager who came in and started to offend everyone

michaelb958

I can has link?

rene

I remember that one...

Shadow Wizard

Dang, can't find it! But I did find this...

That's how he strike trolls/spammers/hackers so well!

Undo

@Doorknob it's a backdoor, mods can put 'for selling umbrellas' in that reason if they really want to.

Shadow Wizard

12:49

> This account is temporarily suspended for abusing unicorns. The suspension period ends on the day when the sun won't shine again.

Undo

ha

Shadow Wizard

Though not sure they can customize the time period? ;)

Jason C

I don't think that would fly in societies where unicorn abuse is an accepted cultural norm.

michaelb958

@JasonC Show me a society that condones unicorn abuse, and I'll show you a valid nuclear missile target.

2

Jason C

Haha

Shadow Wizard

12:52

@michaelb958 hmm... dragons dislike unicorns, isn't it? So where dragons rule, unicorns might be abused. :(

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard Then nukes dislike dragons. Problem solved.

Jason C

Can unicorns disarm nuclear weapons?

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 dragons are immune to nukes, it's a well known fact!

michaelb958

On another note: Guess who's baaaaack!

Shadow Wizard

OMG, he's watching us!

No way it's a coincidence :(

michaelb958

12:55

Oh my goodness, he's using that picture a page up as his profile picture! Code brown! Code brown!!

Shadow Wizard

brown for the rescue

michaelb958

That would have to be the fastest descent to -12 I've ever seen.

Shadow Wizard

@TimPost sorry for calling It back!

Undo

@michaelb958 ah crap.

Jason C

Lol the post is still in Google's cache

Shadow Wizard

12:57

@JasonC and my memory

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard IMHO, don't be. How else would they train the Bayesian filters?

Undo

well... We the Tavern do hereby agree that we shall do everything in our power to stop these bored humans from blaspheming our leader.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 good point. Hey Indian hacker, show yourself plz. Pretty plz?

Undo

opens realtime page

Jan Dvorak

not those guys again.. askubuntu.com/questions/444477/make-us-mods-now

Undo

12:59

Bored teenagers again

michaelb958

@JanDvorak 'Fraid so. The Meta appearance was clearly just a warmup.

(Same username, same profile picture.)

Shadow Wizard

askubuntu.com/questions/444477/…

Undo

gone

Shadow Wizard

I think he's responding to us, he just said "i'm 24 years old" in a comment. ;)

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard screenshot-or-quote-please

Jason C

13:02

24 is kind of old to be a basement monkey.

Shadow Wizard

Undo

huh

Shadow Wizard

so sad...

Jason C

Lol I wish @BlueIce was here to cry with me.

Undo

let me demonstrate lying for you, @ShadowWizard:

I am a 9-year-old cat.

3

See?

Shadow Wizard

13:04

Fear I got to go for a while, hope I won't miss more fun with that guy!

Undo

:P

Shadow Wizard

@Undo somehow, I believe you! :D

Jason C

@Undo OMG REALLY??? CHIN SCRATCH AWWWW!

Undo

sigh

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard And they have 13-, 14-, and 17-year-olds sitting here laughing at them. "How does that feel? How does that feel?!"

Jason C

13:05

@michaelb958 I'm 32 :(

Doorknob

@michaelb958 laughs :D

Jason C

I hope I don't really come across as 13...

Shadow Wizard

@JasonC I'm probably the oldest here then? 35, soon to be 36! :(

michaelb958

@JasonC Chat is confusing me by placing your message before mine. :(

Jason C

Lol

Undo

13:06

@ShadowWizard no, Rory comes in here occasionally.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 reload. :)

michaelb958

(Was referring specifically to Doorknob, Undo, and myself respectively.)

Shadow Wizard

@Undo sure, mean here among the currently active users ;)

Undo

ah

Jason C

I love the internet; it's the only place adults can get legitimately schooled by 13 year olds.

11

Undo

13:08

the only place where adults can get destroyed by thirteen year olds :P

Shadow Wizard

Future prediction?

WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?! — Tim Post ♦ 55 mins ago

Jason C

Lol

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard I can't ever reload!

1

A: Old favicon in chat page

The CDN still has the old version in its cache. I've changed chat's cache breaker to work around that.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 user script can surely replace favicon ;)

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard I'll have to get right onto it.

Undo

13:11

well I think the spam has stopped, I'm gonna quit watching for it.

michaelb958

@Undo That's what they want you to think...

Doorknob

-90

Q: Evaluating the risks of allowing teen moderators on the SE network

I have a David vs Goliath case here involving a teen moderator on Stack Overflow. His display name is BoltClock. I'm a low reputation SO user (less than 150 points) who was recently suspended for Voting Irregularities by BoltClock. Eventually the mistake was corrected by another non-teen moderat...

discussion moderation account-suspension

:P

rene

@ShadowWizard I disagree...

Jason C

@Undo Well, keep an eye on stackexchange.com/users/4290231/… ; new accounts keep popping up.

Jan Dvorak

@JasonC currently no post

Shadow Wizard

13:18

better keep an eye over this.

rene

gone

Shadow Wizard

@rene not from the network activity list, probably cached

rene

It is always caching...

Shadow Wizard

Should I feel honored he chose me over Tim? :D

Jason C

Lol

Undo

13:21

he's watching us

michaelb958

offensive-flag-plz This one's not quite Indian...

Undo

when you post spam links, put them in big bold 'SPAM' links. So that I can see them.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 keeping in mind that Indian troll got a botnet (or can mask his IP), he keeps creating new accounts so it's the same guy, 99.999%

michaelb958

@Undo Ninja tag edit!

@ShadowWizard Why would the Indian Hacker Team be worried about $THAT_MIDDLE_EASTERN_PLACE?

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 I fear it's only because what he saw in my profile

Jason C

13:28

Well, there's only person in our chat list who has never posted a message in chat, ever, and was last seen 30 seconds ago.

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard Facing an enemy that adapts to our every move and possible weakness seems... strangely thrilling.

Now taking bets on how long it is until he attacks us SE-dwelling teenagers.

The Guy with The Hat

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/22913784/2846923

Undo

kill-plz meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/228666/…

Jason C

Is there an offline contact to reach SE moderators?

Undo

@JasonC moderators or CMs?

Jason C

13:33

CMs*

Undo

Yeah.

[email protected] IIRC

(if that qualifies as offline :P)

michaelb958

And now for a pleasant off-topic interlude: optics!

Jason C

Thanks @Undo

rene

@michaelb958 Didn't survive long though. I was just-in-time with my flag...

Blue Ice

Hallllloooooooooo

Jason C

13:37

It's weird though.

Shadow Wizard

@JasonC eh? Who's that?

Blue Ice

Good morning!

@jasonc I'm here to cry with you now! :p

Jason C

You'd think he'd at least direct his angst at something worth complaining about, like, some corporate site or something. Not a hub for free sources of information like SE. It's as backwards as doing DDOS attacks against the pirate bay.

@BlueIce waaaaaaaaaah

Blue Ice

@jason yarp that's the stuff

michaelb958

I leave for not even ten minutes and the place turns into Tavern on the Whine...

2

Jason C

13:40

Lol

Blue Ice

Or we could just call it "Tavern on the waaah"

The Guy with The Hat

Is it just me, or does it take one less person than a week or two ago to close a question?

Undo

nope

always been 5

unless a mod votes

The Guy with The Hat

Huh. I wonder why I thought it took six before.

Jason C

*Waaaaaah*vern on the Meta

The Guy with The Hat

13:47

rene

@TheGuywithTheHat how did you manage that?

The Guy with The Hat

@rene Seekrits

Undo

:(

The Guy with The Hat

@rene Okay. I actually did it with the help of a few friendly unicorns.

michaelb958

‌

Alula Errorpone

13:49

:D

rene

@TheGuywithTheHat do you have a link?

Shadow Wizard

ProgramFOX

Shadow Wizard

oh

The Guy with The Hat

@rene No, I just remembered wrong.

michaelb958

13:51

@TheGuywithTheHat I love how we're just totally winning this.

The Guy with The Hat

@michaelb958 I know. It's fun.

I sorta want to know which way you did it, but then the secret would be out.

Jason C

‌

Ah ha!

ProgramFOX

Hmmm...

Blue Ice

@jason bye!

ProgramFOX

Even editing it does not work...

Bart

13:54

‌

michaelb958

The Society of the Blank Message. Best meritocracy ever.

Jason C

‌

Lol, I gotta go to work. Later guys.

The Guy with The Hat

Bye!

Blue Ice

@jason whoops, I edited my previous message to say bye.

@jason bye for real!

gknfengsurkl

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