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9:00 PM
I wonder if I can trigger a rollback war flag...
 
Anonymous
 
status-oded-is-fixing
 
Anonymous
@Undo I am expecting it to be fixed by the creation of MSO 2.0.
 
:D
 
Anonymous
Hopefully soon, now. :)
 
9:03 PM
@Undo You're right, it does silently fail.
 
If you give it a non-current guid, it works
 
@Undo Also, The Workplace is about to launch.
 
yup, saw their design
shiny design
me wants for SR!
 
Anonymous
OOh, nice theme. I hadn't seen that.
 
Like within a few hours/a day.
 
9:05 PM
oh
wow
 
It just launched!
 
^ Not shiny
 
@Undo Mm... why?
 
Because it's blue on blue
And that's not how it's supposed to be
 
@Undo The beta part should be gone...
 
9:07 PM
I don't think the unbetafication button has been pressed yet
 
The design still needs a bit of work
But overall is beautiful.
 
And the questions list is way too big.
vs.
 
New theme going live on The Workplace.
Looks awesome.
Does anyone know if there's a Data.SE query for finding "possible duplicate" comments on questions which are not closed?
 
9:22 PM
yes
but not me
 
You've been so helpful. What would I ever do without you?
 
handle a lot less flags.
(BTW, you should handle more)
 
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Who is "Customer Support Services"?
 
@animuson I got that too... :P
sigh
This question appears to be off-topic because it is about minimal understanding of issue — GrIsHu 9 hours ago
 
9:32 PM
@animuson (not me!)
 
Heh it runs with TOP 10000 and actually returns 10,000 results. That's... sad...
 
9:45 PM
 
We have four animuson's now. Eeeek!
 
I wonder if it would let me do more than 5...
 
Try it! :P
 
> I don't always break things. But when I do, I obliterate them.
 
I don't always break things, but I do.
 
9:52 PM
aaaaack rain rain wet water blah
 
@Doorknob Did you ever get any further?
 
@hichris123 I just got home
it's pouring :O
 
I'm putting boxes together. Oh goody.
 
@Doorknob It's not pouring here yet. It will be soon though.
@animuson Boxes of what?
 
Small flat-rate Priority Mail boxes.
I'm going to try to get all this crap listed on eBay so I can stop thinking about it.
 
9:55 PM
lol. I read eBay as SE for a second there... and I thought Why is animuson spamming SE. :D
 
I always read "SE" on maps and such as "Stack Exchange" now, not "southeast" :P
 
It's confusing when people say SE on Arqade, because Square Enix is one of the biggest game publishers...
 
user image
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@animuson You love your multiple dupes. :P
 
Now people can't complain because "that duplicate only answers the first part of the question."
Even though there's another duplicate that answers the second part.
Since people insist on asking multi-part questions.
 
10:05 PM
Is it a userscript?
There's some questions to close in , but I'm out of close-votes. :(
 
I'm now working on my site's redesign... with bootstrap! :D
I'm going for more of a minimalist design - title, limited navigation, and logo.
Drawing all the focus on just the content.
 
Needs more doorknobs.
 
Perhaps not even a logo
@animuson Fine, <div style='display:none'>DOORKNOB!</div>
 
@Doorknob That should be the first child of every element in your document.
 
lol, ratio of upvotes:words on this post is 6:7 :P
 
10:19 PM
Imagine viewing that source.
 
@animuson yay for undebuggability! :P
yay, now it has one vote per word :P NOBODY UPVOTE! Keep the balance!
nooo! someone ruined it :P
okay, so I think I'll base my site off of this template
 
Let's all rename to parts of a door. Let's see... We'll need a Doorhandle, a Doorhinge, Doorpanel, Doorframe, Doorstop
We have plenty of options.
 
@animuson My username used to be Doorhandle :P
 
I mean, I was even iterating though the list! :P
 
@animuson And if we run out, we can always use Hodoor! (obscure game of thrones reference) :P
Did I seriously just get a Nice Answer badge for 7 words?
 
10:30 PM
@Doorknob You got a +1 from someone behind this computer... :P
 
:P
 
I love getting rid of all of this unnessecary code! :P
I'm going to have to figure out how to get beta testers for my app when it's all done...
 
@hichris123 /me volunteers ;)
 
@Doorknob It's kinda location specific (public transit app for a city).
Though I guess you could test it... :P
 
oh, ok. :P
 
10:34 PM
@Doorknob I'll give you screenshots soon, though. :P
 
ok :)
 
I do need layout help... like design. You good at that @Doorknob?
 
@hichris123 for Android? Sorry, I'm clueless ;)
I suppose I could help sketch out the design, but not implement it
 
I'm fine on implementing it... I'm just curious on ideas for it.
 
Ok, I could possibly help with that
 
I used to live in Chicago! :D
 
I'm pretty close to Chicago... :P
And it has like no UX-designed, Android-design guidelined apps for CTA.
 
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1 vote per -1 words
 
@hichris123 How'd you get into dev.SE?
 
10:43 PM
sigh
 
@TheWobbuffet He's not going to tell you.
 
@Undo I know too much already
 
yeah, you do :P
 
Like there's an iframe that auths
And there's a 'f' before everything
Like /fusers and /fquestions
 
wha???
 
10:44 PM
???
no there's not...
 
@Doorknob There's not what?
 
fs everywhere
 
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@Doorknob I got this url when clicking on the 'users' tab: .../users/login?returnurl=/fusers
 
@TheWobbuffet Really? I don't
 
10:46 PM
@Doorknob On dev.SO
 
Okay, hint time: it's not obvious. And vim > emacs. :P
 
Screenshot...?
I have no idea where you're getting that f from
 
@hichris123 dev.stackoverflow.com/fusers/whatgoeshere
 
there is no f...
and obviously that's not the way
 
I figured out to go to dev.stackoverflow.com/fusers, so what in the fusers directory?
 
10:48 PM
THERE IS NO F
 
If you got this idea from fkey, you're on the wrong track :P
 
...I see no f
 
Look at the returnurl
It takes you to /f
 
10:49 PM
...okay, I still don't see an f
 
And if you click on 'users' it takes you to /fusers
 
no it doesn't
Where are you seeing an f???
 
@Doorknob Um... don't you see my screenshot? Look at the url.
 
@Doorknob
 
@hichris123 Well, other than the percent encoded slash, there's no fusers
@TheWobbuffet ...do you not know what percent-encoding is
 
10:50 PM
%2 means '/'
 
...no it doesn't
%2f is /
 
Oh...
 
Oh, duh. :P
 
facepalm
 
:D
 
10:50 PM
Yeah all I pretty much know is that %20 is a space
 
bangs head against desk repeatedly
 
@Doorknob you're going to dent yourself.
 
@Undo It's okay, I'm made of stainless steel
 
we like to keep our doorknobs dent-free
 
I'm a special kind of doorknob :D
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10:51 PM
ah, ok
 
The limited programming edition
 
@hichris Okay, I know there's a seekret folder in the website
 
@TheWobbuffet uh-uh.
 
so wants to post picture of dev right now to tease @Doorknob
@TheWobbuffet Not that I know of...
At least not even accesable to me.
 
@hichris123 You mean @TheWobbuffet? :P I'm just working on bootstrap stuff
 
10:52 PM
@Doorknob Well, you too.
You were working on it.
 
@hichris123 Give me the most vaguest hint
 
yesterday :P
 
@TheWobbuffet Dev is just like any private beta site, except with really weird content.
 
@TheWobbuffet Type stuff.
^^ what @Undo said
 
@hichris123 Is it a url injection? I type?
 
10:52 PM
It's nothing special.
 
@TheW So here's a good exercise for you: try to get into any page on SO under /admin/*
 
@TheWobbuffet Take it literally. Type stuff.
@Undo or /cm
 
@hichris123 Type stuff where, though?
 
Anywhere. :P
 
@hichris123 no more hints
 
10:53 PM
@Undo How about this: it doesn't let Doorknobs in the door? :P
 
Sure
 
:P
 
What's the password?
 
we don't know
 
Haven't gotten in there....
Or chat for that matter.
 
10:54 PM
So that's not how you got in?
@hichris123 Is it something like /grant-beta-access?key=Whateverthekeyis ?
 
... probably not...
Could be, but doubt it.
 
At least tell me WHERE TO TYPE STUFF
Would it help to type openid.init();?
Give me another hint... I have homework to do and I won't start until I figure this out...
 
Then it sounds like you aren't going to get your homework done
 
I need one more hint... is it a url injection?
Javascript injection?
 
11:01 PM
:P
 
sublime > vim > emacs
 
:D
 
@Undo I started using that... :P
 
Does it have to do with dev.stackauth.com?
 
emacs > notepad++ >> *
 
11:04 PM
@michaelb958 I did use notepad++, until I met Sublime. :P
 
@hichris123 Notepad++ works on my Surface RT. Beat that.
 
@hichris123 Give me a slightly less vague hint
 
@michaelb958 Ok. Send it over here and I'll beat it with a baseball bat.
wonders if he even has a baseball bat
 
@Undo International post is playing up - I'll have to use an ICBM. That okay?
 
Hmmm
 
11:07 PM
@michaelb958 I don't like Windows RT. :P
 
What else is on the ICBM?
 
@hichris123 Neither do I, but I'm stuck with it for half the day, 5 days a week.
@Undo Explosives disguised as waffles.
 
Hmmm... okay
 
@hichris123 How?????????????HINTS
 
emacs < vim < sublime
 
11:10 PM
^
 
@Undo < notepad++
 
I have 69 helpful flags
 
@michaelb958 Have you used Sublime?
@TheWobbuffet I have 3900
 
@michaelb958 wrong! :P
 
@Undo Is emacs < vim < sublime a hint to getting into dev.SE?
 
11:11 PM
yes
 
@Undo Not on WinRT.
 
Sublime is amazing. Try it @michaelb958!
 
Does it involve openID?
 
^^
 
11:13 PM
voted
 
@Undo I don't get how it's a hint, it just states sublime text is a good editor
 
exactly
 
@TheWobbuffet Sublime is a good editor. :D
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Undo
I'm done answering questions now. All questions regarding the email will be responded to with vim>emacs.
 
I get it, getting in to dev.SO involves typing, I GET IT! CAN I HAVE A LESS VAGUE HINT?
 
11:14 PM
@TheWobbuffet ^^
 
@TheWobbuffet no
 
@hichris123 What email?
 
I got an email from SE. That's all.
And hichris was interested in it :P
 
:O
:I
I see... that's the big hack... OPENING A DEV INVITATION!
 
... or just opening an email. Any email. :P
GO TO YOUR EMAIL! NOW! THERE YOU WILL FIND THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEMS!
* not really
 
11:17 PM
@hichris123 I'm pretty sure your hack is fixed, now. I found this comment: I used to be able to get into the test server by faking my cookies but you fixed it now :(
 
@TheWobbuffet Is the user behind it nuked?
 
Wasn't my hack. :P
 
@hichris123 Did it involve cookies?
 
MMMMMM COOKIES!
 
@Undo It's probably Manish. :P
 
11:18 PM
hehe, probably :P
 
Is there a url that sends you the invite link?
 
I'm going to go eat a cookie now. :P
 
@hichris123 Give me a hint... I NEED A HINT
 
no you don't
 
turns head around huh?
It involves faking my ip?
Or going offline?
 
11:20 PM
You read much too far into my comments :P
 
Yes, if you disconnect your computer from the internet and press the refresh button on dev.SO, the page comes up. :P
 
:P
It involves changing my openID... but to WHAT?
 
I JUST NEED A BLIDDY HINT TO GET INTO DEV.SO
 
@Undo Is it really that bad?
 
11:25 PM
to something else?
 
@hichris123 Six pages of it.
 
@Undo :(
 
@Undo No, I mean is the edit really that bad?
 
on an unrelated note, Bootstrap is awesome :D
@Undo actually, I might have approved that
 
@hichris123 On its own, no. But... look at his history.
 
11:26 PM
Oh, there's actually something called a fkey
 
@Undo I just looked... :(
 
oh. :(
 
@Undo BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN IT!!!
 
Seriously, why don't you guys want to share the seekret and make me stay up all day?
 
11:27 PM
@Undo y u no rollback and edit at the same time :P
you can do that (click "edit" on a revision)
 
@Doorknob You can do that?
huh, neat
It's kinda fun to rollback, though :P
 
you can even leave an edit comment with it
 
huh, neat
 
well, it's essentially a rollback+extra :P
 
Yeah, rolling back is fun. :P
 
11:28 PM
I'm gonna custom flag him so that @animuson can send him one of those inappropriate inline code edits mod messages.
 
@Undo possible duplicate of message 1843348 :P
 
huh, neat
 
error, duplicate overflow
rebooting
 
I win!
 
@hichris123 What fkey did you replace yours with and which account?
 
@hichris123 meh
it's partially the reviewers' / our fault, because he has no idea he's doing anything wrong
 
^ That
 
Well, I just custom flagged him
 
ok
 
iOS 6 and 7
Why you code format that? No!
 
11:32 PM
>:(
MY SCIENCE TEACHER USED COMIC SANS ON THIS WORKSHEET AAAAAARRRGHHHHH
 
@Doorknob Write on the back, "@Undo sends you this: D:<"
 
Write all of your answers in binary.
 
I actually thought about doing that once... :P
 
@TheWobbuffet It's new.
 
11:39 PM
now you have ;)
 
Interesting...
 
@AnnaLear Do you keep the data if you visit teststackoverflow.com? Because it seemed like it was moreof for network tests, not tests on that domain.
 
@hichris123 Can you say the same thing in different words? I'm not sure what you mean.
 
Well... I better start on my homework so I can get back to hacking dev.SO...
 
11:41 PM
@TheWobbuffet ಠ_ಠ
 
@Undo ^^ ;)
 
@AnnaLear Like when I go to teststackoverflow.com it shows me all of the page load time data. Do you keep it if I only visit that site, not get there from the iframe?
 
@hichris123 Good question. I'm not sure.
 
@Doorknob hides
Tornado Watch! Goody. :P
 
@hichris123 I asked Nick; he said he'll drop by with an answer in a few.
 
11:49 PM
@AnnaLear Hey, thanks a lot!
 
@Doorknob Fixed:
 
@Mechanicalsnail Ahhh! NO! My eyes! Get it away!
 
@hichris123 we keep it for all visits to that site, which is in an iframe for 1-5% of page views on the network so we can collect data about our proposed new setup
 
@NickCraver So even if I go straight to the page, typing the URL in, it'll still save the data?
 
yeah, since there are no resource differences, the timing data is the same either way
 
11:52 PM
@TheWobbuffet HTTPS now works?
 
it's in the works
 
sigh How I would wish to see the codebase of SE. :P
 
meh, https isn't in the codebase, much anyway
 
Well, yeah, but just for all of the rest of it. :P
 
All you need to know about the rest of it is that a Singleton handles everything.
 
11:55 PM
that's a downright lie
almost everything.
 
lol
 
The new logo for The Workplace looks sort of like the Obama logo.
 
Anything else important?
 
@KasraRahjerdi you've recent-ish-ly gotten to see SE code for the first time, anything surprising/interesting in there?
 
11:57 PM
we should have a remote workplace site
 
@NickCraver Any chance you could just give me a kiln login? :P
 
where questions like "What are the best pajamas that have a business casual looking top?" are on topic
core team doesn't use kiln, only backup to it
 
@NickCraver the singleton was the biggest shock. The MVC side of the code is pretty standard and decently elegant.
The architecture is quite neat but I think we've discussed that on meta before, the "one codebase, 122 sites" aspect.
 
It's all one codebase? Wow.
 
putting together a deck now for: meetup.com/TRINUG/events/167004292
@hichris123 it's 1 app pool
 
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