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Flyk

10:02

is the notifications drop down on the supermenudropdownthingy broken?

or is this some oddity because of the number of devices I have connected to SE

SPArchaeologist

Anyway... seems we lost Baba the voodoo expert.

Manishearth

10:17

SWAG!!!!!!

Thanks a lot, @TimPost, these are awesome! :D

Shadow Wizard

@Manishearth awesome! But -1 for no free hand red circles and no picture of you wearing the shirt or the sticker :D

Manishearth

Especially the regex shirt.

I usually don't put up pics of myself :p

Tim Post

That was fast :)

I thought the Physics stickers were contraceptives for a moment, but that was fast!

2

Shadow Wizard

@Manishearth usually is not never... ;)

Manishearth

@TimPost apparently Nebraska (animuson) takes longer

@TimPost hahaha

Tim Post

10:21

@animuson Just double checking because I sent a crap load last week, you did receive an email from me saying that I sent it and when it was leaving the warehouse, right?

And the Pen is actually the coolest part of the padfolio, it's aluminium

Manishearth

@TimPost whoa

/checks

@TimPost -1 no bobcat

Tim Post

The Security SE flashlights are also cool. You'll need to remove a tiny dab of paper that insulates the battery (it ships with one), and note that the tip extends for mini lantern functionality.

Bullshit. I sent you a bobcat, blame customs.

Shadow Wizard

@Flyk not broken for me. What happened to yours?

Manishearth

@TimPost Oh, didn't notice that

Was looking for a battery

...never put a battery in a flashlight when it's pointing at you

I guess that's why I don't own a gun :p

3ventic

Yeah... putting batteries in your gun would be kind of bad

5

Tim Post

10:28

@Manishearth Hey @Shog9 that film we saw on blinding techniques is paying off.

Manishearth

wha?

Tim Post

:P

Manishearth

So now I can actually put stickers on my laptop. I was waiting for these to come, I have a Mozilla one and a Wolfram|Alpha one that I need to plaster somewhere

Tim Post

@Manishearth The stickers are cool because they're reusable, so you don't have to worry about them gunking up your laptop unless they stay on it for a looooong time

I can't remember if the Physics stickers are clear or white. I think the only clear ones we have are for gaming

Manishearth

@TimPost nice! But I rarely remove laptop stickers -- the Physics one I had was on my old laptop and was there for a long time

@TimPost Can they be placed on the inside or do sweaty palms remove them?

Wait, my older physics one was on the inside and it worked out fine :)

[ SmokeDetector ] All caps title: MINECRAFT LAUNCHER 1.3.9 WONT LAUNCH! PLZ HELP

Shadow Wizard

10:34

@Tim just curious, you keep buying new stickers, or just use the enormous stash you already got in SE bunkers? ;)

Manishearth

@TimPost was that you who deleted it? That was fast

Jan Dvorak

@Manishearth the minecraft launcher was self-deleted

Manishearth

ah

Shadow Wizard

> This question was voluntarily removed by its author

3ventic

...yeah

Shadow Wizard

10:37

eh, Google had chance to cache it

webcache.googleusercontent.com/…

Manishearth

@ShadowWizard google fast

rene

Sun jvm

Manishearth

I wonder if Google plugs into the SE feeds

rene

is that still around?

Shadow Wizard

@Manishearth nah, hard to believe. They just poll key pages every few seconds in my opinion.

Manishearth

10:38

@rene s/sun/oracle/?

@ShadowWizard .....google fast

Shadow Wizard

@Manishearth yep Google is fast and very furious :D

@rene long gone.... over two minutes ago

rene

@ShadowWizard The sun jvm?

:-)

Shadow Wizard

lol thought you mean the all caps question

So you mean if Java is still around, @rene?

rene

@ShadowWizard Yes, is java still around and if it is can it be burinated with fire?

Shadow Wizard

oh my, Google Cache is not really cache, at least not static... the scripts keep running

@rene oh yes

it's still around and even updated regularly

3ventic

10:43

Well

We still have Minecraft, so it must be around

Shadow Wizard

> Version 7 Update 51

I need Java at work for VPN connections

Manishearth

brown!

Shadow Wizard

So the latest update broke all connection

@Manishearth brown and empty!

rene

That is a familiar experience...

Shadow Wizard

@rene yep too true

Manishearth

10:46

There was tons of brown paper with it

Shadow Wizard

Brown is so... brown

rhymes with down

michaelb958

And crown.

Shadow Wizard

But brown crown will only bring you down

SPArchaeologist

Brown? like in that Master Chef episode?

Shadow Wizard

Brown like the color, brown. ;-)

Brown

Brown is the color of dark wood or rich soil. It is a composite color made by combining red, black and yellow. The color is seen widely in nature, in wood, soil, and human hair color, eye color and skin pigmentation. Culturally, it is most often associated with plainness, humility, the rustic, and poverty. In politics, it is historically associated with Nazism. Shades and varieties of brown (See also Variations of brown) File:Kufra-space-radar.jpg|The Sahara Desert around Kufra Oasis, Libya, seen from space File:Sachertorte DSC03027.JPG|Chocolate. A sachertorte in a Vienna cafe. Fil...

Interesting choice for onebox thumbnail!

SPArchaeologist

10:52

...... bleargh

must

michaelb958

> historically associated with Nazism

Oh dear.

SPArchaeologist

scroll

the

chat

down

Jan Dvorak

.

SPArchaeologist

fast

rene

.

SPArchaeologist

10:53

.

Shadow Wizard

lol

Jan Dvorak

Or we could just flag the post as offensive

SPArchaeologist

never do that again

rene

how much pixels left?

Still visible here

Jan Dvorak

It's outta screen for me

SPArchaeologist

10:54

out screen

rene

half gone

Jan Dvorak

even in fullscreen

rene

gone

michaelb958

Gone for me now.

Jan Dvorak

I've got 1024x600

SPArchaeologist

10:54

today the small screen saved me

rene

1280X1024

Jan Dvorak

Anyone can still see this?

Manishearth

You should totally drop that and try jQuery

$('.onebox').hide()

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak no, totally gone

SPArchaeologist

gone

Jan Dvorak

10:55

Or, you could just use the killit plugin.

Shadow Wizard

Onebox work for google maps by any chance?

rene

Is visible for me if I zoom out

Shadow Wizard

@rene or if I scroll upwards :D

SPArchaeologist

I was going to develop a neural network in javascript and then use that to recognize the image and hide it, but scrolling down will suffice for now

Flyk

@ShadowWizard I get a notification on my phone from the SE app and clear it

then I get the same notification on web and clear it

Jan Dvorak

10:57

New age: robots will get disgusted by human activity

Flyk

then later I'll get another notification on my phone for the same thing

and then randomly (not always) I'll get the same notification on web, and clear it again

Shadow Wizard

@Flyk oh, there's a bug reported already

Flyk

no doubt my tablet would get another copy of the notification and I'd have to clear it there as well

I'd expect it from the app, across multiple devices, because I suspect there's no push to say the notification was cleared

but clearing the notification from the app should clear it on web

Jan Dvorak

and then they decide to revenge

Shadow Wizard

0

Q: Notifications still show up as unread on desktop, even if they were viewed and responded to from the android app

I am trying out the stack exchange android app, and tried responding to new notifications from my phone itself. While that part went smoothly, the desktop portal shows all those notifications as unread. I have to view them in the desktop portal to get them to the read status on the desktop.

@JanDvorak lol

SPArchaeologist

11:05

@JanDvorak - it depends, if you live in a very large metropolis, they may end up selling flowers in a flower shop (unless sony somehow forgets about 2:00' movie in their dvd release)

Flyk

1

Q: Is it true that sneezing repeatedly is equivalent to an orgasm?

This came up randomly during office talk but it goes something as follows; sneezing repeatedly is equivalent to having an orgasm. Some basic research on the internet seems to indicate there is some basis behind this statement but since I'm not going to sit here forcing myself to sneeze repeatedl...

sexuality

Tim Post

You have some interesting office discourse, it seems.

SPArchaeologist

Skeptics. If Meta SO is Twilight, he must be "Derpy" of StackExchange network

Shadow Wizard

11:39

@Flyk that's just an urban legend.... interesting and intriguing one but still, no scientific research to back it up. From personal experience I reach five repeated sneezings and never had it cause anything more than a red nose. :D

Flyk

11:53

@SPArchaeologist no, software rec is the derpy

SPArchaeologist

@Flyk nahh. Software rec is more on the Pinky Pie side.

rene

Is this reopenable? stackoverflow.com/questions/21553366/…

I think it is...

SPArchaeologist

it has two possibile answers:

1- no because (something here)

2-yes it should. You must have found a bug / doing something wrong

neither one is opinion based as far as I am concerned.

rene

Hmm, yes that is also my analysis...but not all reviewers share that...

Manishearth

[ SmokeDetector ] Possible spam: asp.net mvc 4.0 linq query with datetime field returns something like this /Date(1391600738810)/

rene

12:08

Baba loves asp.net

SPArchaeologist

13:08

! I have found the program that blogger used to create the SharePoint unicorn/pony.

now I must resist the temptation to start a meta post "Meta Stack Pony: Reputation is magic"

rene

Resistance is futile

Shadow Wizard

Misbehaving flair

No diamond

fredley ♦, London, United Kingdom

31.7k 40 179 305

minecraft candy-box-2 minecraft-feed-the-beast minecraft-redstone mass-effect-3 glitch candy-box

SPArchaeologist

We must give a pony mascot to all the stack sites.

3ventic

13:24

Has the flair updated?

Shadow Wizard

@3ventic the other two yes, that one didn't update yet

rene

Undercover diamond

Doorknob of Snow

I see the diamond, it's just in a really tiny font

on a completely unrelated note, picking a domain name is hard

Undo

13:37

0

Q: How should we flag answers?

Let's prefix this with this: I'm quite new to all of this. I've been on mSO for almost a year now, and I know the normal ropes, but this site is a brand new category for SE. We have some work to do. How should we flag answers? We have quite a few one-liner answers comprised of a link to some sof...

discussion answers flagging

I hope that gets them more toward the right track

Braiam

@Undo VLQ -> deletion...

Undo

I hope that's the outcome, yeah.

Poor CM team that's going to have to handle all my VLQ flags.

Braiam

(unless they explain how it fits OP's desires is LQ)

Undo

@Braiam Rate this on a scale of one to ten.

Braiam

> Warning: this site is currently in private beta for at least 6 more days.

To log in, you must have commited to the Area 51 site proposal and received the invitation email. Click the invitation link in the email to log in!

Undo

13:41

@Braiam Oh. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60887/…

SPArchaeologist

@Undo - wrong site name.

should be

S̸͍͚̯̭͕̤͡o̷͉̫f̶̠͍̳͈̫̩͓͕͘͞t͓̮̪͍w̪͡a̤̮̣͎̜ͅr͙̲̲e̡̠̱͜ ̟̲̟̞̩̕͘͜R̗̳̼͜e̡͓̱̮̱̣̺c̸̡̼̭̰̱͎͍ͅò̯m̶͉̳ͅm̡̗̘ḛ͙͍̦̥̻̀ņ҉̝d̶̹̹͕̹̱̙̯͓̦͠a͓͍͇̫̬͟t̢̰͚̀͟‌̦̩̪̞í̡̢͍̭͎͍ͅo̪̗͎̲͞n̶̗̻͉̻̬̩̦̳ś̼̥̠͢

Undo

heh

SPArchaeologist

Maybe there is still time to change that.

Doorknob of Snow

does anyone here have a domain name? I need ideas on what to make mine :P

@SPArchaeologist I'm partially only committed just to see how this turns out. :D

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow I have one.

Doorknob of Snow

13:45

@Undo what is it?

SPArchaeologist

otherwise, could the staff please add Derpy head as a logo as :1800557 suggested before?

Jan Dvorak

@DoorknobofSnow same as my web nickname

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow erwaysoftware.com/brown

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo Where does "erway" come from? Is that your last name?

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow Yeah

Doorknob of Snow

13:47

@JanDvorak Oops! Google Chrome could not find jandvorak.com :P what's the URL?

Jan Dvorak

honnza.no-ip.org

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo ok, thanks, I'm adding "software" to my brainstornm-keyword-list-thingamajig:P

Undo

hehe

Jan Dvorak

but I still have no webserver running.

and it's expired anyways

Doorknob of Snow

oh, ok

SPArchaeologist

13:50

! I got it! It's not a real site.... It is an honeypot! you will burinate any user that creates an account on that... right, @Undo?

Undo

erwaysoftware or softwarerecs?

Jan Dvorak

@SPArchaeologist to view the site, you already had to create an account. Welcome to hell.

SPArchaeologist

@Undo - don't try to confuse me. I am talking about Software Recommendations. I discovered your plot! :P

Undo

I dunno. SR has some... hurdles to overcome.

SPArchaeologist

@JanDvorak - actually, I am browsing it without an account :P

Jan Dvorak

13:53

@SPArchaeologist how?

SPArchaeologist

Undo

But you have to remember that we have quite a few network mods there, and many familiar faces from mSO.

SPArchaeologist

simply as that

Undo

> For now, you've got us - the community team. We're comprised of some of the most seasoned mods on the network, and the community itself is full of moderators from other sites. As I noted in the introductory ground rules, if any community is going to pull this off, it will be this community - which makes one kind of expect that we shouldn't need too much moderation to begin with.

3

A: A different thought on moderation

You're over thinking things to a degree, but I see where you're going with it. I think for the moderation team to be as effective as they could be, some should be well versed on historically, why we didn't permit these types of questions on our sites. But, this only leads to them knowing the most...

SPArchaeologist

@Undo : was just joking on the fact that many users here in chat fear that the new software rec will become a spam feast.

Undo

13:55

I'm afraid it might.

seriously.

SPArchaeologist

then you see that my joke may or may not hide some suggestion

(if anything goes wrong, nuke the site and the users -_-)

Tim Post

We're uh, going to crack down on that severely with an iron fist if we see it.

Undo

@TimPost What's it?

The Wobbuffet

play.google.com/store/apps/…

^Charcoal :P

Tim Post

@Undo spam

The Wobbuffet

13:57

Okay, must go to school, bye

Undo

@TimPost Ah yes. Any opinions on my meta Q?

On flagging answers?

Doorknob of Snow

@TheWobbuffet my icon! :P

The Wobbuffet

0

Q: Charcoal flaggible post finder and flagger

It's now in the Google Play Store (Android), availible here. Coming soon to iOS! (about 1-4 weeks)

app android ios

Ok now bye :P

Undo

cya

SPArchaeologist

ummmmm....

1

Q: App to alert me of firmware updates on a rooted phone

Are there any apps that will alert me with a notification to firmware updates available on a rooted phone? The built in firmware check on my Samsung Galaxy SIII will no longer work on the stock ROM because it has detected that the phone is rooted. Are there any that will download the updated RO...

android

if that site has to stay, ye may want to give a policy for root/hack/jailbreak related questions.

Undo

14:01

@SPArchaeologist What's ummmmm?

Why?

@SPArchaeologist It's not like that's illegal, ya know.

Tim Post

What's the issue with root / hack / jailbreak questions?

Doorknob of Snow

^

Tim Post

Oh, yeah .. well .. this possibly:

Undo

writes meta question

Tim Post

But that's completely unrelated.

@Undo Don't try too hard to solve problems we don't yet have ;) There's plenty that we have you can work on :)

Undo

14:04

@TimPost Oh. ok. Is there a list of problems we currently have?

SPArchaeologist

@Undo ummm would be the equivalent of "Mumble"

Tim Post

@Undo I'm still going through meta, wow this site took off fast, like 40 meta posts within 24 hours

Tagging is the first thing I see that's gonna need some lovin

Undo

@TimPost I think that's because we have the mSO folks there :P

Ah yes. Good ol' tagging problems.

Tim Post

Quality is strange, it's either fantastic or crap as I go question to question

Undo

Seeing the same thing here.

Odd, isn't it.

Yay Robert when on a campaign through the suggested edit queue!

Doorknob of Snow

14:06

@TimPost Which category do mine fall in? ;)

Tim Post

I don't know, I haven't seen one yet ... agggggghhhhhhhh myyyyyy eyyyyyyyeeeesss

Doorknob of Snow

lol

Undo

lol

0

Q: Should we accept root/hack/jailbreak related questions?

In the Tavern (where the mSO folks sit all day and watch this site with eagle eyes), at least one person expressed concern at this recent question - App to alert me of firmware updates on a rooted Android phone. What's our policy on such questions?

discussion scope

There

SPArchaeologist

@Undo Actually, I misinterpreted the question. I had it as "The built in firmware check on my Samsung Galaxy SIII will no longer work on the stock ROM, because it has detected that the phone is rooted. Is there any way to bypass that check"

Undo

oh

hmmm

nope, that's not what it's asking.

SPArchaeologist

14:10

emphasis on the bold part which my mind interpolated

yes, noticed now

Undo

Still a good meta question to have around, though. There are always folks who get all wrapped around jailbreaking legality.

Doorknob of Snow

@animuson Wait... how do you have 86 rep on softwarerecs?

Your rep tab just says "+100 association bonus"

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow He downvoted 19 answers.

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo oh ya, forgot about answer downvotes :P

SPArchaeologist

anyway, thanks for the question - will keep an eye open. It still seems walking on thin ice... like emulator questions on Arqade

Undo

14:21

Gah, I had forgotten how hard it is to get a link to an answer during private beta.

Anyway, @TimPost, is the answer on this VLQ?

Flyk

14:36

@TimPost hey, got a few minutes?

Undo

Ooooh! Good answer!

2

A: What software can I use to monitor the quality of my Internet connection?

Smokeping (demo) does all that. However, this includes multiple caveats. This is not out-of-the box solution for Windows. I have not tested this on Windows, but I'm using Smokeping for exactly same thing. It's for unix based systems, so installing it to windows is not easy There's no GUI. All c...

Shadow Wizard

Saved by the bell

Undo

14:52

Ok, we need some serious mSO creativity applied liberally to this

4

Q: What should our chatroom be named?

Our lovely chatroom is currently sitting there with a terribly generic name: Software Recommendations. What should we name it?

discussion chat

Tim Post

@Undo I hadn't even considered running something in a VM for that, was thinking purely in something I could just download and run. Might do that if I can't find anything else, and I've done a lot of searching to find squat.

Undo

Yeah, kinda neat.

NOOO!

@TimPost please apply editing magic to this. We aren't nominiating users.

(note the "i" count in that word)

Tim Post

15:50

@Undo Fine, but it's still a bit too soon to be doing it

hichris123

@TimPost Grammar doesn't care what time it is.

Tim Post

Grammer don't care what time is it? I never new.

hichris123

I no, such a knew idea.

> This proposal has reached 100% commitment. We are preparing for its launch and expect to create it soon.

Just create it already! :P

Undo

@TimPost oh absolutely. It's the spelling mistake in the title that is driving me 100% insane.

Bart

16:10

Is Baba being effectively blocked at the moment, or do we really have to start to worry?

hichris123

@Bart I think pretty much blocked... unless they've changed keywords.

Bart

Meta is not filled as much with trolls any more. Spam is disappearing. This place is becoming far too squeaky clean.

SPArchaeologist

@Bart If you really want I always have that idea to wreak some havoc.

animuson

@TimPost Yes, I got the email. And I came here commenting about the secretness of the t-shirt. :P

Bart

It just wouldn't be the same @SPArchaeologist

juergen d

16:17

@TimPost: Do you have that tracking number for the parcel?

animuson

Ha, sweet. Highest scoring SR Meta post ^_^ I win

Although I can't expand vote counts because of all the downvotes I cast.

SPArchaeologist

@Bart I suppose so. I was just searching an excuse for starting the "give every site a unicorn mascot" meta post :P

Bart

You have your excuse right there @SPArchaeologist -> Unicorn

"Funny idea, but how would that improve the site?" "More Unicorns". "Okay, but is that something we need?" "Unicorn" "I'm convinced"

animuson

~~Unicorn~~ Brown

Manishearth

@Bart Um, he comes once a day.

Bart

16:24

So I missed him today @Manishearth? I knew something was missing from my life.

Manishearth

16:36

I think he was there

added timestamps to SmokeDetector so that I can just grep the logfile next time

[ SmokeDetector ] All caps title: HOW CAN I MAKE AN UBUNTU BOOTABLE ISO?

ProgramFOX

Does an assoc bonus count towards the rep cap?

Bart

Nope

ProgramFOX

And towards the Mortarboard badge?

animuson

Nope.

hichris123

16:56

:( stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3985178 How many grammatical errors are there still in there?

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 do you count the won in the command?

hichris123

@JanDvorak ?

animuson

> So... have that person come write a recommendation then? Or ask them all the details you need to write a full recommendation. Imagine you asked someone what happened in last night's episode of [whatever] that you missed. You go ask your friend, and they explain it all to you over 20 minutes, then you come back and tell the person "This particular character died." - You're leaving out a lot of vital information here.

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 Do you count the one in the comment?

hichris123

@JanDvorak Sure. :P

Braiam

17:07

I'm sure this is not possible, but I can't find the proof

ProgramFOX

@Braiam What's not possible?

To remove 11.04 for the tags list?

animuson

@Jan My question is now at the top of the community bulletin. :D

Undo

@animuson Congratulations :P

Braiam

@ProgramFOX yeah... without removing the tag of the system

Undo

17:33

Answering your own question on SR somehow feels terrible.

1

Q: App to quickly generate iOS app icons?

In iOS development, there are quite a few different sizes of icons needed to make your app look the best throughout the system. Here's what the average list of icon files looks like in an iOS project: There are different sizes of images, retina versions of those... it's a mess. Is there a tool...

osx image-processing images software-development

Manishearth

Quick poll: how many of you get the joke? wncc-iitb.org/resources/view.html

It's to go on a tshirt

ProgramFOX

Got it!

Manishearth

yay

hichris123

@Manish I read the transcript... so it doesn't really count. :P

Manishearth

ah

hichris123

17:44

189 people committed to Arduino...

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