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3:00 PM
@TimPost it's probably nothing, but I'm awfully suspicious of that new user that just appeared out of nowhere in AUGR
 
@Flyk AUGR?
 
I was cryptic so you don't all suddenly jump in there.
 
Ahhhh
 
since that wouldn't be appropriate
 
true
 
3:02 PM
@Undo change this
make it so id is a hyperlink to the comment
 
@Flyk But it's for Charcoal.
 
boo
 
Oh, you wanted a login, no?
 
gief user id
ye
cleanup processes is very much my thing
 
@Flyk I need an email address so I can send you creds.
 
3:03 PM
ewww
 
I know, it's not optimal :P
 
you have 10 seconds to copy it
 
ok
gotit
 
also, I hate you for making me do that
like, a deep seething hate
 
I hate me for making people do that ;P
 
3:05 PM
When you suspect it the least, I will be there to burn down everything you know and love
 
todo: make decent registration option.
 
I love watching this conversation
 
Huh, the new user creation page won't load ;(
kicks VPS
 
ISN'T THAT CONVENIENT
 
@Flyk Seems friendly enough, but I'm watching
 
3:06 PM
@TimPost it's just that he created an account an hour ago, quickly got exactly the right amount of rep to get into chat, and knows how chat works
 
Hey guys and review guru around?
Not 100% sure I'm correct in my comments here
 
@ShadowWizard I am a review guru
...on arqade
 
0
Q: How long do items remain in the “First post” and “Low quality Post” queues for?

Ian RingroseGiven that these queue are mostly empty on Stackoveflow and the Close Queue is so big. When an item in the “First post” or “Low quality Post” queue is voted to be closed, should it remain in the queue until it has had enough reviews to be removed from the Close Queue? (Remember that a lot of pe...

@Flyk good enough, rules should be the same
 
until actioned
 
So my comments are not utterly wrong or misleading?
 
3:08 PM
@Flyk The page loaded :D
 
Not completely sure on specifics, but reviewing an item does seem to remove it from other queues - for example, if I review something in two queues (this is normally the queues where you don't have the "delete" button at the top) and then refresh the button with the delete button, it will mark an item as reviewed and prevent you from reviewing it
also, editing posts does something to them in terms of whether they stay in the queue
If you don't open up everything that needs reviewing from /review and just work through them one queue at a time
your actions will - at least - hide them from you for the other queues
whether that removes them from the queue for others, I'm unsure
stuff like suggested edits, if somebody "improves" an edit, it will accept it and remove it from the queue for everybody
 
I believe it just make it unreviewable by you, but not removing it from other queues, i.e. other user can still see it and review it.
 
if a post is deleted it will disappear from all queues, so that can be anything between 1 and 3 people reviewing it if its negatively scored
one thing I've never understood is how the system determines how many people need to review it
since that seems quite variable
could be rep based, perhaps?
 
No, I'm pretty sure rep is not a factor
either you can review or can't, but no other factor
If you mean suggested edits, it need two same review decisions on all sites except Stack Overflow where it needs three
 
hey @all
 
3:14 PM
Hello
 
Quick Question : Flag removal, Is it possible to remove flag?
 
@TGMCians No.
133
Q: Cancel misclicked flags

AlbireoI'm wondering (since it just happened to me), is it possible to "cancel" ("undo", "delete", whatever) a flag I just raised if I misclicked it, so the mods won't waste time? I looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature.

 
@TGMCians If you think the moderators won't figure themselves the flag was wrong you can cast another flag on the same post choose Other and explain what happened.
 
Actually what happens on SO that some guys answer very poorly irrelevant to the question as low quality. Then When I flag those then in meantime guys update the answer that cause my flag disputed
 
Can happen. Don't worry about it. There's no harm done there.
 
3:17 PM
@ShadowWizard But it entire makes my SO profile bad history
 
Not really. Everyone's done that.
 
Meh, the occasional rejected or disputed flag is no problem whatsoever.
 
@TGMCians nope, disputed is totally fine, rejected is also fine as long as not on big scale.
 
@Bart it is for OCDs
 
Okay
 
3:18 PM
I'd recommend they try to gather as many rejected as accepted flags @JanDvorak. For the sake of balance.
 
@Bart the flag quality filter will try to prevent you from doing that
 
"flag quality filter"? Don't think there is such thing
There used to be flag weight, but it's long gone afaik
 
Yeah, not even used any more behind the scenes afaik @ShadowWizard
 
the if(flags>10 && flags_accepted / flags_not_disputed > 0.25) thing.
 
@Bart flag weight. accept rate. So 2012
 
3:21 PM
@ShadowWizard now I feel old.
 
Fun thing is, I still get the occasional downvotes on my accept rate post @ShadowWizard. If you only figured out that it's missing now, you're not missing much I'd say.
 
This one?
221
Q: Let's stop displaying a user's accept rate

BartMy feature request (or anti-feature-request perhaps) is the following: Let's stop displaying a user's accept rate. For those of you who know "Fawlty Towers", the whole issue of a visible accept rate and our behavior towards it starts to feel like "Don't mention the war!". We generally seem to ...

 
Yeah
 
Already got a +1 from me in there ;)
 
3:25 PM
What does mean of decline the flag?
 
That a moderator reviewed it and didn't agree with the flag.
 
@TGMCians flag history is visible to moderators so having many flags declined might be a factor when mod is checking up a profile. Otherwise, single declined flag among many helpful flags really doesn't mean anything.
 
^ this
 
This is definitely one Monday that shall end in beer.
 
This is a Tuesday.
oh
 
3:32 PM
Pff, I have so many todos and plans and ideas in my head that I have so far achieved nothing. Grrr
 
@Undo for charcaol based on Bart's appreciation for acceptrates : data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/164752/…
 
But one time one user wrote only "hey name" in the comment section of the question. I flagged that as too chatty then Mod declined my flag.
 
@TGMCians probably in meta?
 
No, On StackOverflow
because that user edited the comment later and it made me angry. Since then I have left to do flag whatever guys do now I do not mind. because SO do not have a feature to remove the flag.
 
Well, comments have no revisions so the mod had no way to know how it looked like. And even so, if something bad was improved, it shouldn't be deleted anyway.
 
3:42 PM
^ but SO should have a feature of to remove my flag so that it wont decline
 
@rene Oooh, thanks!
 
Stop worrying about declined flags. It's not big deal.
 
@TGMCians no, I don't think it's so critical
 
Will put them in when I get back this afternoon
 
If someone can't live with a negative feedback, Stack Overflow isn't a good place for him at all.
Even good posts get occasional downvotes and even good flags sometimes get declined by mistake.... it should not prevent us from using the site.
 
3:44 PM
People developing op-amp amplifiers cannot live without negative feedback, though.
 
</rimshot>
 
@TimPost I second that.
 
I hope the beer site won't share the same fate as R&D site
 
user image
3
 
I WANT THAT SHIRT
 
3:48 PM
zazzle.com/… @TimPost
 
@TGMCians You do realize that your flag summary is only visible to you and nobody else?
 
@rene and mods
 
Don't know if eevblog does another campaign for it
 
@JanDvorak yeah, ok...
 
Ah full store: zazzle.com/eevblog
 
3:51 PM
hmm...
didn't know we can still buy them!
 
Shareholder?
 
Hey nice trick they got there. Blank model:
Then they put something on his chest
 
should the approvers here be punished?
 
Well
 
@JanDvorak no, it did put a misbehaving curly bracket in place
So while pretty minor, not really BAD edit
 
4:02 PM
Thanks guys for letting me know
 
@TGMCians cheers!
 
didn't notice the bracket, sorry
 
Given how much editing that post still needs @ShadowWizard ... bad edit. At the very least "too minor".
 
Yeah ^^^^
 
@Bart true, but still, no punishment required. They were just too lazy to improve it.
 
4:03 PM
anybody going to edit?
 
Okay, okay. I'll take off my jacket then and get back to work.
 
@ShadowWizard then they should skip
 
Go ahead @rene
 
OK
 
4:19 PM
@TimPost /cc @Bart funny, our tech club tshirt designs just came out, and the elec club is using the same thing
Rs 230. Like $4. /me will buy
 
4:39 PM
Nobody else suffering this problem? Still on-going for me:
3
Q: My Tags page is showing no results on SO and Meta

DuncanI just visited http://stackoverflow.com/unanswered/tagged?tab=mytags and for me it shows no results. Has something broken? The problem occurs for me on meta too, but oddly not on some other sites I've tried, such as ServerFault or Programmers. I have tried pressing Ctrl+F5 many times, but as ...

 
Nope
 
Have you guys got favourite tags?
 
It doesn't work for me
I have no favorite tags
(I had one but I just removed it, no change)
 
Yes I do @Duncan
 
It looks like it only shows the posts you have in your favorite tags
 
4:54 PM
@Pëkka Yeah, the suggestion seems to be that lowering the number of votes would be a good thing, but might cause more improper closures, so adding a "send-to-reopen" queue would make people worry less about that happening.
 
Frankly, I could go with 4 votes without an appeal button :-)
 
@Manishearth not spam
 
yeah
I need @hichris is to make a smarter findspam
The idea is to have a bunch of regexes, and each one is sitewide-whitelisted or blacklisted
We can support a lot more regexes that way, and AskPatents posts won't be detected as spam
 
What about phone numbers posted to Patents?
I can help coding
 
@JanDvorak So, basically, in findspam.py there currently is a lackluster function that does basic regex matching
What we need is a function of the form testpost(title,site)
 
Oh. It's Python. Do you accept novice code?
 
5:55 PM
There also will be an array of dicts defined. Each dict contains a regex, a boolean variable "all", and a whitelist or blacklist (if all=True, we use the blacklist)
So each regex will only be tested against sites that fall in the whitelist OR all=True and they do not fall in the blacklist
I would write it myself, but no time. And I have the core api python to work with
@JanDvorak I write worse python than you do :p
 
cloning the repo
I guess the function should be inside the class?
 
Yep
static
I guess the list of dicts ought to be static too
(Btw, the urls are of the form superuser.com (no www, no http), if you're making a test regex list)
 
Hi
I'm in school :P
 
@Manishearth The spam detector thingamajig is fine.
 
Hi @ManofSnow!
 
6:03 PM
thanks
@ManofSnow I'm always in school. I live at school.
(But I also do use SE during some classes)
 
Heh I got banned from the library in 7th grade because I was programming on one of the computers and the librarian didn't know what I was doing, so she assumed it was inappropriate.
5
 
@animuson /me has sudo access to department computers.
My computer teacher in 5-7 (before I moved to India) knew that I programmed and left me alone :p
 
The principle actually called my parents over it, and they were utterly confused during the phone call.
 
But a crabby English teacher did think that I was "hacking" once when I had Notepad open and was typing code.
Fortunately it never went higher, I had a good reputation with the other teachers and they convinced her that it was harmless.
I wonder what would happen if I had a terminal open (sadly, no PuTTY in school)
@animuson hahaha
 
I would have gone to the computer lab instead but we had this disgusting teacher that weighed like 700 pounds and I swear he never showered or brushed his teeth. Always wanted to throw up whenever he called you back to talk to him.
 
6:14 PM
ick
 
No one ever listened to him because they were too busy holding their breath.
 
6:26 PM
Haha if another moderator spam-flags a post away before you, the error messages says "You don't have permission to cast this type of flag" - really confused me for a second.
 
@animuson I bet the great Shog can spam flag the dead post.
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6:46 PM
@jadarnel27 I believe you wanted me to post this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/218527/…
 
7:04 PM
Speaking of mr. Brown, what happened to him? Haven't seen him in a while.
 
His wife got to him. :o Initiate Rescue Plan Delta-46C.
 
SIR YES SIR!
 
Haha, some kids take their NERF very seriously.
 
7:21 PM
Grrrr, looks like the ISP we use for our company email got spam listed...
 
@rene was your company sending out spam?
 
No @JanDvorak, rene legitimately works for a Nigerian prince who has to deal with a lot of money.
 
/me checks business vision
 
test
test
 
test
 
7:28 PM
What is this? A mic check?
 
test
@Bart I was just checking out whom I could impersonate
 
It is just a test
 
nothing Sirius
 
Hey, at least it inspired me to listen to two songs. So well played.
 
8:07 PM
You guys have let the flags queue get down below 700? :o
 
Sorry, I was busy trying to gather evidence that the Ziggo network is hosting spammers
23 comment flags on its way...
+25
+24
+24
 
Now the queue is below 600.
 
+1
That's it, I've no more comment flags
 
8:30 PM
@Manishearth is still tempting me with blurred screenshots of pings from TL :P
5
Q: Cheese moved, no scroll wheel to move it back

ManishearthSo, the new topbar has been rolled to mobile. Which is nice, because I like the new topbar1. However, the new inbox is a popup window2 with overflow:auto. On some phones (mine is a Samsung Galaxy Mini), this gets cropped in strange places (I took the screenshot via Chrome, but I get the same t...

 
That blurred one wasn't even important :p
 
I want in there.
 
pretty boring
 
prods chat POST requests and websockets
has idea
 
Get more SO rep and enter the next election @Undo. It's ridiculous anyway that you have so much more Meta rep than SO rep.
Ridiculous I tell you
 
8:34 PM
@Bart I've been trying to get more SO rep. Is it bad that Meta rep comes so easily compared to SO rep? :P
 
@Bart I have 25x meta reps
I am incapable of getting SO rep. I see questions that I can answer and decide to flag them instead
 
4x of 5x myself I think
 
Maybe I need to apply more freehandiness to my red circles on SO.
@Manishearth Same thing I do.
 
I'm not even 10k on SO. Shameful
 
8:35 PM
haha
 
You monster.
 
@animuson there's supposed to be a "username: " at the beginning
 
yeah
I think my only hope for an SO diamond is to get an absolutely insane number of flags, because I'm not getting anywhere near 20k anytime soon :P
 
How's that? A message from him. ;)
 
heh
 
8:37 PM
It won't help, the majority vote by rep. Though iirc ChrisF was rather low rep (~20k) when elected
 
You're hoping to annoy them into a diamond @Undo?
 
rofl
 
I'm still the lowest-rep moderator on SO...
 
I think Anna was <10k when elected @Manishearth
 
Yeah, but she had other things working for her.
 
8:38 PM
Yeah, she's still only 11.7k
 
But she is a woman
 
@Bart No, but if he floods them with flags the next election they'll ask for 20 mods because of the load and he'll have a chance
 
ha!
 
@Bart She's a cat. Different rules.
 
<-- Also a cat.
 
8:39 PM
@animuson you became a cat after being elected
 
It's the only reason I voted for you @animuson
 
On the outside @Manishearth. Clearly he already was on the inside
 
true
 
@Manishearth I'd verify the accuracy of that information but browsing through my Meta history is... painful...
 
8:39 PM
I've gotten quite good at picking mod tool tidbits out of mSO posts :P
 
It's filled with "moderator merges tags" and "moderator destroys user" entries...
 
heh
poor mod.
In related news, it is now officially not 'around the middle of January'.
 
@Undo poor user
 
Is it now 'around the middle of 2014'?
 
It's "around the middle of January" the entire year. Except for when it's exactly the middle of January.
 
8:42 PM
@animuson not yet
 
It's "I no longer write 2013"
 
it's "almost 2013"
 
Pff, you kids. I still start my years with 19...
 
I want some dev to mess up and switch around the parameters to that message so that it says 'user destroys moderator.' Then we can all laugh at the bug report.
 
@Undo here's a secret that most mods don't know: We can edit the suspension reason.
OK, not a secret, just a little-known fact
Just imagine the possibilities
"User suspended for reasons"
 
8:46 PM
 
"User suspended for being below appropriate brownness levels"
wait
 
Subsequent Meta post "Racist moderator suspended me!!"
 
"This account is temporarily suspended because reasons. The suspension period ends on Jan 24 at 17:33"
 
@Manishearth Huh wha? As in...
^ So you could do that?
 
yes
Let's try it!
 
8:48 PM
hehehe
 
@Undo I volunteer .... you!
:p
 
For science
 
I've always wondered what it's like to be suspended...
 
It's terrible @Undo. The rope hurts your ankles after a while. Blood rushes to your head. Horrible.
 
heh
 
8:50 PM
@Bart Not if you do it right.
 
See, that's why you are the moderator and I'm not.
 
pokes chat
GIVE UP YOUR SEKRITS TO CHROME DEV TOOLS!
Maybe this will give me TL access...
Yeesh, everything's server-side validated, isn't it?
@Manishearth If I do manage to get into TL, what will happen to me?
 
Shog will get out his trunk of... tools you don't want to know about...
 
you will get kicked out
and we will continue to party
 
drat
 
8:53 PM
^ not done on a suspension, but it would work there too
@Undo not everything ^
 
checks Phys profile
Yay I'm safe!
 
Strangely enough this would most likely be one of the few sites applauding you for breaking into something.
 
probably. I already broke into something even more sekrit than TL, and they kinda applauded me.
drat.
Turns out that /rooms/setuseraccess/4 is server-side validated ;(
 
seems unsurprising
 
I know. I've tried all the obvious things, though :P
 
8:59 PM
Haha, so you're now going for the "surely you're not this stupid" approach?
 
Yeah, pretty much.
I also found that /kickuser/4 doesn't work. I was looking forward to kicking random people out of TL.
 
haha
 

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