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00:28

I swear I had to vote 45 times to get the "Vox Populi" badge - weird.

animuson

01:51

Tim Stone should make a rock band. They can call it Tim Rock.

user202362

02:04

@animuson On stackoverflow.com main site, animuson, on stackoverflow.com main site

JoshC

@User17 What..?

user202362

02:18

animuson ♦, Chalco, NE

18k 12 47 79

user202362

Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom

617k 227 3673 5113

c# java .net linq generics asp.net multithreading

animuson

Psh, let me have my moment. I'm gonna beat him at something!

user202362

You can use your html to beat his .net >_<

user202362

Still much better than me rep wise, lol

Dennis Meng

04:11

@animuson I've earned more rep than Jon Skeet on Meta for the month; that's got to count for something right?

(and we can safely say you have too)

Bart

08:32

@DennisMeng That absolutely counts for something .... whether that something is positive or not is up for debate. ;)

Johannes Kuhn

11:28

I hate robo-reviewers

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3238797

Should I rollback this edits?

ThiefMaster

you already did so :p

but yeah, backtick abuse is super ugly

Johannes Kuhn

Not all. just got 5 posts.

And I can leave @comments?

Jotne has approved 103 edit suggestions and rejected 1 edit suggestions

:/ Maybe I should build a list of such users and instead of using ` I'll use [tag:] for their posts. AND HOW COULD THOSE SUGGESTED EDITS BE ACCEPTED?

Johannes Kuhn

12:07

I'm "reviewing" my old suggested edits and found this: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/1739915

I'd reject this now. Should be a comment.

Or: If your suggested edit is rejected suggest it again

and again

Duncan Jones

13:22

Is there anything that can be done to flag poor edit reviewers? Somehow this was accepted (stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3239641) despite changing the code in the question.

Bart

Flag the post @DuncanJones. Use the "other" option and link in the page you have just linked. That should be enough to notify a mod. There's not a more direct way I think.

Duncan Jones

Ok, thanks @Bart. Will they actually care about this or should I just not bother them?

Bart

They'll care. Especially if they look into review history and it's all rather suspect. I believe they can manually ban them from review for a while.

Duncan Jones

Ok, good. Thanks.

Duncan Jones

13:43

Any idea whether the moderator interface understands markdown at all? I ended up copy/pasting URLs in verbatim, but it might be more pleasant for the readers if I can hide links behind descriptive text.

Apparently it doesn't: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/83147/…

Bart

Was going to say that. :)

Duncan Jones

And requested as a feature and rejected: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/83149/…

Johannes Kuhn

Today: robo-reviewer blame day.

probably Pekka

EVERY DAY IS ROBO-REVIEWER BLAME DAY

Bart

13:58

I walked into a door today. Fault of a robo-reviewer.

2

probably Pekka

YES

Duncan Jones

I think reviews need to be graduated based on user reputation. 2k users are just not necessarily ready to review things in a 1-of-3 system. There should be a review score needed per review and each vote adds something to the tally. 2k users get a smaller weighted score than higher rep users.

Or am I foolishly thinking reputation has anything to do with review quality?

I.e. am I naive for thinking 5k or 10k+ users are necessarily better at it?

ThiefMaster

Recently ~~a high-rep user~~ multiple high-rep users (2k, 4k, 25k) approved a spam edit for example

Duncan Jones

@ThiefMaster I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule. I was just wondering how wide-spread that is. If there is any correlation between reputation and robo-reviewing, it might be worth considering if the system should reflect that.

JoshC

14:35

@DuncanJones I'd have to agree with you there. I rarely find that a 10k+ users robo-reviewing. Neither are a majority of 5k+ for that matter. It's usually the 3k ones..

In the instance you provided above, there was one 5k user who approved it.. the rest were 3k..

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3240519

Just found a 21k user approve this.. stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3225235 wow..

I guess you can't base things on higher rep.. they are bad reviewers regardless.

Duncan Jones

14:50

Well, I suppose it's difficult to do the stats correctly.

I guess a simple measure is the number of approvals that were overruled, per-capita by each reputation range.

Which isn't really proof of anything, I suppose, but it's better than nothing.

ThiefMaster

@JoshC ugh thanks, this user won't do any other reviews for some time...

Duncan Jones

Wow, looking through his review history, no wonder he makes mistakes.

Some reviews are with 5 seconds of each other.

Bart

Myeah, a 4 second average might work as an indicator

JoshC

more like 10..

Duncan Jones

Are there any browser plugins or desktop apps that make keeping this chat window open easier?

Perhaps I'm a bit "special", but I keep shutting this down absent-mindedly and wondering where it's gone later. I'm not so used to having browser-based chat sessions I guess.

Bart

15:21

There used to be some (irc?) integration at some point. But I don't think that exists any more.

53

Q: IRC access for the chat?

Will there be any way of accessing the chat over IRC? As beautiful ajax interfaces are ... IRC is still #1 for chats.

discussion chat irc

Pranav Kapoor

15:59

ok, I made a mistake on SO, any ideas on how to resolve?

I created a tag, called [tag:snap.svg], whereas there already existed a similar one [tag:snap-svg]. I thought it makes more sense since, that's the actual name.
I then modified a question and added the snap.svg tag instead of snap-svg.
I thought I would be able to add a synpynm to the original one, but can't (needs a score of 5).

Bart

Don't add a synonym for such cases

Just use the appropriate tag

The wrong tag will automatically disappear within 24 hours, if no questions are using it.

Pranav Kapoor

ah. ok

thanks :)

Bart

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Q: How can we get rid of misspelled and unused (or "zombie") tags?

During the re-tagging of questions, tags sometimes become orphaned from existing questions. Are these zombie tags ever removed from the tags list? What if a tag is misspelled and needs removed? How do we get rid of it? Return to FAQ Index

support faq tags

Pranav Kapoor

Yup, thanks. Retagged the questions to the correct one

Johannes Kuhn

16:16

@JoshC ohh, someone else already used the idea of using robo-reviewer markup instead code markup

Duncan Jones

16:42

So, what's the correct response to an exact duplicate answer? I've just encountered two answers from the same user that were auto-marked as duplicates. I've decided the questions are duplicates and voted as such. What should I do with the duplicate flag on the answer?

0

A: Issue compiling opencv in osx maverick: ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64

I solved this by using the -mmacosx-version-min=10.8 option when compiling with g++. It might not be a permanent solution, but at least my code compiles again.

1

A: OpenCV Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64 after upgrading to OSX Maverick

I solved this by using the -mmacosx-version-min=10.8 option when compiling with g++. It might not be a permanent solution, but at least my code compiles again.

It is a valid flag. But I'm not sure what further action is required, other than perhaps a comment on the answer requesting the answerer doesn't post duplicates again.

ThiefMaster

just dismiss it as helpful

oh wait, you are talking about so and aren't a mod. nvm, i'll do it

animuson

Someone thinks he's in the Teacher's Lounge.

ThiefMaster

could have been from Ask Different ;)

Bart

Wow, one moderator likes to see his name plastered on the front page of Meta .... I shall name no names.

animuson

They were incorrectly tagged questions!

There were only 5 of them...

No worse than when Nick goes on his [status-completed] sprees. :P

Bart

16:55

Yeah, the show-off

Doing actual work

For shame

animuson

I was at work last night moderating. What else am I supposed to do when I'm supposed to be sitting in my car staring at a house?

Rich people and their money... Hiring private security to watch their house while they're on vacation even though they have a burglary alarm.

Bart

"What exactly were you doing while the gang members ransacked the house?" "I rolled up a voting-ring"

2

ThiefMaster

animuson: /nick ani-meta-son (if this was irc...)

animuson

Well, even if someone did break in, all we can legally do as security officers is call the police and wait. That's the same thing the alarm company would do...

Bart

Before the edit, I read that as anim-tase-on ....

Undo

18:51

People here might be interested in this:

github.com/Undo1/SECommentFlagger

Awesome for finding obsolete comments to flag/delete.

Johannes Kuhn

19:38

@Undo You just fetch all comments from a user and make it searchable?

btw: any screenshot?

Undo

19:57

@Johanne Yup. Work pretty well, too.

Johannes Kuhn

Sounds like a fun project. Don't have OSX, so... :)

Undo

:)

The main problem is that it's really good at getting your IP banned from the API.

Johannes Kuhn

20:13

No authentification?

otoh, 30 requests/sec is easily possible with a user with over 3000 comments.

animuson

20:43

Awww my new phone didn't come today. :( Darn.

ajax333221

21:58

I like the smell of new things

for some reason I upvoted this comment (possibly he had very low accept rate or something) now I can't flag it:

Has someone answered your question? Give them credit. — JoePasq Oct 19 '09 at 0:05

humm that was fast

Johannes Kuhn

Revoke your upvote, then you should be able to flag it

animuson

No it wasn't. It was average speed. You calling us slow?

Johannes Kuhn

actually it was slow speed. :P

(read as: mods are usually faster)

animuson

I blame Bart. He damaged the door when he ran into it and now it won't open properly.

Bart

I heard that...

Johannes Kuhn

22:07

Blame the robo-reviewers. It's always their fault.

animuson

Gahh I can't find the video on YouTube, but I wanted to link a scene from Family Guy where Pete becomes feminized from a women's camp after his sexual harassment at the factory. Cleveland takes him to a pride event and Peter gets up on stage yelling "It's your fault..." at the crowd, which then proceeds to chase him down the streets.

ajax333221

i will try to find it, I like to find things

Bart

You don't mean this one?

►

ajax333221

well i found it from Bart's comment, does it count?

animuson

Psh people need to learn how to use keywords. Unless you know that he was at that specific rally, there's no way to find that video. -.-

ajax333221

22:18

anyone watches Homeland tv series? I want to know if the season 2 or 3 is worth my time

I watched S1, but I was a bit disapointed

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