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1:56 AM
ugh, rainy morning...
 
2:12 AM
@EKons 2 :p
 
 
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Rob
3:55 AM
@andmyself Breaks window: youtu.be/UfH9agn02dk?t=18
 
 
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6:36 AM
@andmyself The history one is SlightlyLQ, but the software engineering programmers one sounds good
Unless you don't want to be primitively obsessed
 
 
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7:37 AM
16 messages moved to Chimney
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I want to make a joke about clubbing something over the head and dragging it off but...
 
The userscript virus infected me
I wrote several userscripts to customize our company's ERP system for myself now
 
@EKons I was asleep :)
 
@andmyself sunny here... Too sunny for winter actually
@Tinkeringbell not an excuse! ;)
 
parrot is actually omnipresent but hiding the fact
</conspiracy theory>
 
7:47 AM
Lol
 
@Magisch a good mod convinces people they never sleep. Even when they do ;p
Or they convince people they should never sleep
which is a bit of a pain ;p
 
My sleep schedule is so messed up that I'm not sure I ever sleep.
 
or they convince people they'll see anything later anyways so trying anything funny is just not a good idea in general
 
This reminds me, I saw small @Tink on a pony glasses yesterday while watching MLP with my kids. @Derpy you know what and who I mean?
:D
@Mithrandir you sleep more than four hours in total, out of every 24 hours?
 
I absolutely need my 8 1/2h / day
at least on average
 
7:51 AM
Such a waste... ;)
 
@ShadowWizard eh, usually
 
@Mithrandir well, good! Based on trial and error that is the minimum time needed. :P
 
@ShadowWizard No, but that does mean I was ok :P
 
I do exactly 7
like once I went to bed early cause my mom was complaining, and woke up at half past 5 ._.
 
7:55 AM
Like in the army... Lol
 
@ShadowWizard you never sleep 7 hours in the army
 
I sleep 10 if I can ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell hah
 
@JourneymanGeek sure, but we get 7 hours.
 
I sleep 5 when I do night shifts
and catch up later
but hey, I'm off work till end of feb ;p
 
7:57 AM
@JourneymanGeek whoa... Why? You get paid for the month?
 
@ShadowWizard yeah
so, I get 14 days annual leave and 11 days of off accumilated
I take it against the days I work so... 14 days gets me a month...
 
So full month paid leave... Sounds ideal!
 
I actually have 2 days of leave left
kinda.
 
@JourneymanGeek I would never be in the army
 
@Magisch I never had a choice ;)
 
7:58 AM
I don't do well with authoritarian command structures
 
@Magisch sit!
:P
 
@Magisch its often not that bad in a non combat unit
We used to pull off all sorts of crazy stuff
I've threatened officers at least twice, politely
Nearly blew up one by accident...
 
@JourneymanGeek there is still the training period each soldier must go through, even non combatant. About a month here, and must shoot weapon etc.
 
(My CSM insisted we keep a copy of the army rules manual thing in the office - I basically read through the whole thing twice...)
@ShadowWizard oh...
erm
I kinda did that... thrice...
 
@JourneymanGeek did what? Training or shooting weapons?
 
8:01 AM
I failed basic thrice.
 
Here you can't really fail.
 
Now you can't
I joke its my fault
 
@ShadowWizard I am a cactus I have no feet
you have no power here
 
You can be kicked out which is rare, and you get leave out of army with "black mark" in many places.
 
@ShadowWizard ....so looking forwards to that...
 
8:03 AM
I never shot a gun and 99% never will
screw guns in fact
 
You literally cannot get kicked out unless you're a danger to those around you.
 
I'm not touching any of that
 
@Magisch karate?
 
@Magisch they're actually a little fun, but I don't ever want one.
especially when someone else's doing most of the work.
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah, something like that here too. Rare but happens. People just snap.
 
8:05 AM
@ShadowWizard oh, had to handle one of those when he wasn't nuts
 
well wasn't full nuts
 
Is this a replay of a previous discussion?
 
I wanna skip to the end of the video
 
8:05 AM
ah
 
@ShadowWizard Yes it is
 
No
Lol
 
yeah we did ;p
wheelchair?
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ what video?
 
I think he's joking
 
8:07 AM
@Magisch so I can command you to... Shoot needles! ;)
 
or just stand there and look prickly
 
Jan 13 at 8:11, by Shadow Wizard
tie him to a wheelchair?? lol... why on earth to a wheelchair?!
 
wheelchair
 
You were even in the darn discussion Mr. Goldfish Wizard
 
@Mithrandir hehe. Any news about the medical situation and your army profile?
 
8:09 AM
have some blood tests that I need to do
 
HA. HA. No army service for me
I am not going to shove it in your face every time you bring it up Mith
 
@Mithrandir So go do them... Clock is ticking... ;)
 
@ShadowWizard summons is for May, I have a bit of time
 
Here state hospitals and clinics have been bestowed upon the curse of pain
 
@Mithrandir ohh good.
 
8:10 AM
Your ancestors pray for you when the nurse is taking the blood
 
I don't get it. Even nurses with years of experience and no obvious sign of sadism do it
But if it's privately owned, holy crap. You could ask her to do it ten more times.
 
So become a nurse trainer and show them how to do it properly? :D
 
They do it properly in both places
Lots of alcohol, hygiene, smiley face
 
also conformal bandaids with smiley faces.
 
8:13 AM
But I guess by now I can take a blood sample of my own better than them
@JourneymanGeek No I'm not five
 
And of others?
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I literally have never seen any other sort when people take blood
 
@JourneymanGeek and balloons!
 
@ShadowWizard I'd probably cause some state hospital pain but I probably could
@JourneymanGeek Ugh that is sooo Winnie the Pooh
 
8:14 AM
If the syringe shakes they're in for a ride
And that's exactly the problem with inexperienced nurses. Their hands shake
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ could be worse
could be a new doctor
 
Well I never got the chance
Perks of more badass conditions
 
I take special care when handling sharp knives due to my poor hand eye coordination
there is no way I'd trust myself to handle a live firearm
 
Handle dead firearms
Shoot at a gun and show it who's boss
 
8:21 AM
@Magisch let me put it this way
I have a pack of bandaids and antiseptic swabs everywhere possible...
and shooting a gun safely is common sense.
just assume its always loaded, point it at things you want to make holes in and you're good.
 
And in the meanwhile, wife bought a fancy advanced happy birthday candle which produce a song once activated i.e. being lit. Just forgot one small detail.... There is no way to shut it off after that! The result:
 
@ShadowWizard Use the traditional method of turning it off in your mouth?
 
There's always a way
 
Sit on it
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ it's a candle... ;)
 
8:23 AM
I recommend a hammer
 
@JohnDvorak hammer?
Knew it!
 
Yeah, sit on it
 
Stop!
 
and well, you're learning to shoot on the unlikely situation where you need to actually convince someone shooting at you is a bad idea. Sometimes terminally.
 
Hammertime!
 
8:24 AM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I will get my pants dirty
 
You know, a box-headed mace
 
The chance that I'll ever be shot with a gun is miniscule
 
yup
which is a great reason not to learn
 
the chance that if it were to be so I could stop it by pointing my own gun back is even more miniscule
 
@Magisch don't jinx it
 
8:25 AM
@JourneymanGeek In any real life situation other than a war that never happens
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ and that's what we're preparing for
 
besides, over here, the only reason you can privately own guns for is firearm sports
like shooting ranges
 
@JourneymanGeek I swear I have nothing against male dogs with female names
 
even then, you need an expensive permit, have regular check ins that your property is secured, and the gun must be kept unloaded and stored seperately from the ammo at all times outside the shooting range
so such a gun would be 0 use to me for home defense purposes
 
or leave it in the military and shoot it when you need to
 
8:26 AM
Good for zombies tho
 
unless an attacker announces himself an hour in advance in which case I'd call 911 and be done with it
 
Yeah this was this study conducted that debunked the "put out fire with fire" mentality
 
I'd rather the military deal with those...
something to be said about 7.62 full auto in those situations
 
Basically some pro-gun people arguing that more guns would mean less shootings
 
8:27 AM
If I ever was in the millitary I'd probably be a support role somewhere
 
@Magisch best man?
 
like comms tech or something. I'm just thoroughly unqualified for combat encounters
 
@Magisch there's even more supporty roles
 
I get intense headaches when having to listen to people talk over each other for more then a couple minutes, for one
 
logistics for example
 
8:28 AM
Speaking of guns, this guy's looking to expire someone
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@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ #nocontext
 
We don't have cooks any more but we did once.
 
@Mithrandir Journey's dog's previous owner had no idea WTF they were doing and they named a male dog "Ashley".
At least AFAICCTATMRN
 
I know, I just don't see how that's in any way related to what the discussion was
 
@Mithrandir [In case of a war]
Some literary work is more sophisticated than the others.
 
8:31 AM
ah, alright
 
Sips tea
 
So, just like @Sha. Got it.
 
But better in every way. Samsung Note 11, preorder now
 
Preorder now, before they all explode!
 
BBL procrastination time over
 
8:39 AM
meanwhile I'm still using my old samsung s5
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ more or less. Also left him with a crippling fear of heights
 
8:57 AM
@Mithrandir hmm?
@JourneymanGeek the dog? How?
 
@ShadowWizard tuna fish
 
9:16 AM
@ShadowWizard you don't put puppies on shelves to keep em out of trouble
He fell off once
 
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@JourneymanGeek :(
 
@JourneymanGeek What the hell were they thinking? :/
Why get a dog in the first place if you're gonna put it on a shelf?
God the stupid things people do
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ cause it was cute.
Allegedly
Ash looked like a lost mogwai as a puppy
No experience, no clue...
But it's the only way we would get a puppy :o
 
9:40 AM
@SmokeDetector @JourneymanGeek Nuke it!
 
@JourneymanGeek But why a shelf
If I had a cute puppy I'd have them sitting near me or on the floor or make a little chair for them, not put them on a high shelf
 
@Magisch cause silly human
@Tinkeringbell I got the RSS feed. If another mod hasn't got it I will
 
@Magisch Keeps the puppy out of the way when vacuuming ;)
 
@Magisch ugh
 
But seriously, yeah that weird.
 
9:45 AM
Cause she wasn't ready to handle a houseplant, let alone a puppy decended from hunting dogs
We needed a great trainer and lots of time and mental stimulation
A puppy needs to basically get tired out as much as possible
She was an actress and had odd hours
 
So why she bought a puppy in the first place? For decoration?
 
10:18 AM
@ShadowWizard I think that's an accurate way to put it
 
@ShadowWizard yeah
 
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Rob
A practical dog for decoration, on a shelf:
 
I wouldn't get a puppy tbh because they have to be constantly exercised
 
@Magisch pretty much
We totally lucked out with a few things.
My dad worked from a small office nearby so we had someone taking care of him all the time
 
10:33 AM
I know someone who has a husky
or how he calls it "mrs 28 hour energy"
 
A cousin of a dad's coworker trained guard/attack/bomb dogs...
So basically big, super well behaved dogs
which was excellent socialisation while we were training him
 
Rob
There's the other consideration too. Food costs money going in and costs time coming out. Do you want the dog to think of you when it has to go, or do you want to think of the dog when you have to go. A practical puppy:
 
11:23 AM
I want Aibo
 
@andmyself I kinda felt the older version is cooler than the new, cloudy more skeomorphic one
 
11:34 AM
Umm... suddenly I got an idea of RoombAibo? Or is that animal x robot cruelty?
 
12:18 PM
Or inefficient
There's a good reason robo vacuums are slabs or pucks
 
so that they know how to make a turn?
 
And are wheeled
 
because walking is hard?
but then again a walking roomba would have no trouble with thresholds
and it could even clean up bumpy carpets such as dogs that don't mind that
Cats have been riding roombas for far too long. It's time to do the Russian reversal.
 
Cause walking is complex
 
Actually it isn't. Just use a double tripod and call it a day.
you only need brains if you want to use less than five legs
Actually... it should be possible to walk four-legged with just a linkage mechanism as well
 
12:37 PM
maybe something like a strandbeeast?
 
If we allow non-pointlike feet, then bipedal walk is easy
but non-pointlike feet negate the terrain negotiation advantages of walking
 
still could be a nice kinetic toy
from the 80s
 
like those little wind up feet?
 
yup
 
12:41 PM
at that point you might as well make something with tracks.
 
I want a kitten
 
on feet.
 
or an elderly cat
any cat really
 
this brings up unfond memories
 
heh
@Magisch someone went "PUPPY!" at ash
her mom was like "that's a rather elderly dog"
 
12:42 PM
thank god that I've never had one of these in real life
 
@JohnDvorak what the horror is that?
 
@Bart Fun!
 
In a "burn it with fire" way?
 
Wasn't that something that the Joker in the first Batman movie used?
 
fire won't work, but I'd like it submitted to the Hydraulic Press Channel
 
12:44 PM
@JohnDvorak Why I'm thinking of "lion dance"...
 
although, melting it might also do.
 
@Bart In a 'annoys my brothers' way :D
 
I've seen a better idea for that
Just a tiny PCB with a speaker that beeps in random intervals between one and two minutes.
 
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@Tinkeringbell :D fair enough
 
12:52 PM
sd k
 
ah the annoyotron
 
indispensable
 
Rob
Generally speaking dogs don't like roombas, surprisingly cats are much more tolerant.
 
My dogs actually like it more than a regular vacuum cleaner. Probably because it's quieter
 
1:23 PM
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2:39 PM
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3:55 PM
but if I ever left the company .... please don't ...
 
@rene He would have to return the keys for SE's building then, wouldn't he?
And whom to blame then for losing their keys.. :(
 
Hire a new Tim
 
Folks, I have a question that experienced Mother Meta users might be able to help with
Suppose a novice user feels that they're being harassed in the comments, but they do not have enough reputation to flag stuff
what are their options?
 
@E.P. if it is their post they can always flag comments.
This was changed some time ago
 
@MEEisJohannGambolputty... ah, brilliant
do you know of any documentation of that on the main meta
 
4:11 PM
@E.P. I am currently looking. It was recently due to the welcoming thing.
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Tim PostSomething that has always bothered us about the new user experience was the amount of guidance we've got out there telling folks to flag rude or abusive comments, but not allowing new users to do it, because .. it's complicated. Let's un-complicate it and let new users flag any comment on any po...

 
@MEEisJohannGambolputty... many thanks =)
 
@MEEisJohannGambolputty... Quick, screen shot this before they delete it! There's actually this special table and we have to prick our finger with a needle in order to be OH̀ NO ͠TH͘EY C̕OM̨E IT'S TOO LATE — Tim Post ♦ 4 mins ago
onebox is the new screenshot?
 
@MEEisJohannGambolputty... @andmyself What? I was just asking. I didn't expect that the event I commented on just seconds before (see linked message), would occur...
 
TGIF, Tim :'(
 
4:44 PM
Ublock origin has blocked over 8M ads since its installation on my machine
 
and here's me only on 219k
 
@andmyself It is tempting to delete that now :P
 
@ArtOfCode we use extra aggressive ublock origin with ghostery for every workstation in our company
I use privately as well as does most of my family
there are like 3 sites I have whitelisted
 
I'm just on defaults :P
 
Where do you check that?
Nvm xd
I'm blind .-.
 
4:52 PM
I use the anti adblocker blocker list and some extra privacy and popup lists
 
I use all the lists
 
i just create manual blocks as needed
 
@Magisch I sit in Slack all day. This is my current blocks. This profile is only used for slack and our dev portal
 
What the hell is slack doing
 
4:59 PM
I wonder that every time I see it hit "1M"
 
anti-slacking for ad blocker
 
Same happens on youtube
And twitch
Looks like they try re-loading trackers if they fail
 
@Asuna pats uBlock Origin on the head Good job. Don't let it load.
 
5:12 PM
I'm combining uBlock with Privacy Badger, Disconnect, and NoScript. If something does get through, the rest takes it
 
I like seeing the counter increases rapidly on YouTube.
 
5:23 PM
I sometimes wonder what the internet is like for tech unsavvy people
between ublock origin, extra blocklists, anti blocker blocklists, ghostery, a pihole and commercial grade antivirus software I feel like I see maybe 10% of web content out there
well pihole is a misnomer. Our firewall does it and it's a sonicwall
 
Browser updates also help though... I still remember the time when browsers didn't prevent multiple dialogs appearing every time I tried to go back/close the site...
 
I might actually get a raspi with pihole at home though
layers of adblocks for when you really dislike ads
 
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@Magisch I still have to install one of those
Promised my mom and dad I'd do so
 
@ShadowWizard UC Berkeley. ( :
 
5:35 PM
I want to get a raspi with an actually raspberry pie casing
and I'll situate it with fake whipped cream ontop and on a plate with a fork next to it
then when family visits I can say "Oh this is just my raspberry pie"
 
@Magisch It wouldn't survive long here like that ;)
 
no I mean like 3d printed
 
Maybe you can make one with craft dough...?
Though that would be heavy
 
we have a 3d printer at work
 
Fun!
Is there actual work related printing going on?
 
5:39 PM
afaik it's used to make test pieces for if certain self made pcb testing machines will fit
 
Ah. That sounds like a not so fun way to use it :P
 
I could see a ceramic lid and metal pie pan to double as a heat sink
 
shog taking it to the next level as usual :P
 
bonus points for attaching that as the carrying handle
 
:D
 
5:47 PM
I'm not so sure what you need to do to a poor raspberry pie to make it need a heatsink
 
my punnery has been matched
 
5:59 PM
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6:30 PM
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Haha this stuff is so messed up
Reliable source of meta.SE rep.
 
7:01 PM
@Tinkeringbell on the plus side, it won't take long - I just went and did it in about 10 minutes
 
@ArtOfCode I think I need to add 'digging up a network cable' to that list :/
Making it ... Mmmmm. Over an hour? XD
 
@Tinkeringbell fly over to the hardware store :D
 
7:19 PM
I "collect' those from the office ...
 
Ethernet leads? I just have 'em sitting around doing nothing...
 
@Magisch Closed :(
Also... Toooo lazy
 
1-day online delivery...
 
I just offload that onto my dad. He's the one that wants a pihole, he's the one that can go arrange the hardware
 
7:37 PM
meta.stackexchange.com/questions/322947/… Oof, someone is having a bad day
 
I'm gonna refrain from piling on
No use :p
 
I was going to refrain until I learned I'm a sadist and I enjoy torturing people. Self-fulfilling prophecy, yada yada yada
You seem to have misspelled "artistic" as "sadistic" and "tutoring" as "torturing". You need to be careful or people will think you are trying to insult them! — John Dvorak 13 secs ago
 
I'm not artistic. I feel insulted!
 
> Please help me...
 
7:59 PM
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