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Tinkeringbell

8:00 AM

booo!

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek Empty

Journeyman Geek

There is no cow?

Bart

Don't have a cow man.

Journeyman Geek

(there is no cow. He passed away :( )

Derpy

oh, there is a cow. Look, it is sleeping.

... or maybe that's a sheep.

Journeyman Geek

8:05 AM

Jun 7 at 8:00, by Journeyman Geek

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy le petit prince?

Derpy

oh! Seems I just found how to annoy the room today :P

daysoftheyear.com/days/talk-like-a-pirate-day

Tinkeringbell

Is that today? :D

Thanks, I almost missed it :)

Derpy

YARRRRRR!

Journeyman Geek

Baaaaaarrrrrrrrk?

Bart

8:13 AM

Glassssssss... crap

Tinkeringbell

Journeyman Geek

._. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315623/… the spelling they have used for avatar seems odd but spellcheck dosen't catch it

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek It is supposed to be avatar. Grammarly picks it up ;)

Henders

Eugh, I get so many Grammarly adverts on youtube :P

Journeyman Geek

(and yes, I do actually rely on spellcheck on my browser ;) )

Bart

8:22 AM

Apparently it's an obsolete spelling of avatar. TIL.

Journeyman Geek

from a dodgy dictonary?

but that might explain it

I wonder if its a correct spelling in another language too

Tinkeringbell

@Henders I quite like it :)

Somewhat

@JourneymanGeek by Edgar Allan Poe ._.

Journeyman Geek

@Somewhat In that case Nevermore

Travis J

avatARRRRRR

Tinkeringbell

8:27 AM

Guys? I need an independent panel of internet critics. Can I borrow you all for a minute?

Travis J

No.

(Yes)

Tinkeringbell

:(

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell not many places more criticy

Travis J

Sorry, I was getting my critical face on.

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek I wonder if they'll put a new cow there

Tinkeringbell

8:28 AM

Parents are gone for the week, and they send us a little clip yesterday. My brother and I both edited it, but now we're arguing which is more funny and which we should send: imgur.com/gtv2b4j or imgur.com/U4Gsva9 (make sure to turn on sound)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch no

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek They could put a whole herd

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell I liked the second one more

@Magisch not likely to happen

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek (YESS!) :P

You choose wisely ;)

Journeyman Geek

no one knows how they cow got there and no one really wanted to move him, or know what to do

Raising the Praising Agent

8:31 AM

(When someone CVs a question as off-topic for beloging to a different SE and another person CVs for blantly off-topic and the question gets closed for either of the reasons, will the other flag be declined?) owo

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell the first one makes fun of the person. The second is properly absurd ;)

@RaisingthePraisingAgent 0_0

Bart

@Tinkeringbell fwiw I had to laugh at both.

Journeyman Geek

@RaisingthePraisingAgent CVs are cumilative

Raising the Praising Agent

@JourneymanGeek This is the tavern on the meta, I thought people here will know lol

Journeyman Geek

so if you close for different reasons its still closed.

Raising the Praising Agent

8:32 AM

And the flag therefore helpful?

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Do you know the music? It's a very Dutch thing, called 'draaiorgel' upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/… where you turn the wheel and get music ;)

Journeyman Geek

I don't actually remember what happens with the flag

Travis J

@Tinkeringbell Second one was way better

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell as someone vaguely culturally anglosaxon I was assuming the monkey with the barrel organ

Bart

@RaisingthePraisingAgent if I'm not mistaken it's automatically marked as helpful

Journeyman Geek

8:33 AM

(also, this would be a great question for meta?)

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Oh, no. No monkeys involved ;)

Somewhat

I think the flag will be considered helpful as long as the question gets closed?

Bart

60

Q: Don't auto dismiss custom flags on close

I understand auto-dismissing off-topic flags as helpful on close, since those become obsolete. But for custom flags that's rather annoying, since those are often used for an issue that goes beyond closing. In my case it's typically a migration or merge request. What's particularly bad about thi...

The effect, and why that was not always desirable.

Journeyman Geek

or zat ;)

Raising the Praising Agent

@Somewhat I hope so, but wasn't sure

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

8:35 AM

I had an incident with a cow when I was really young. I got up to one with really long horns and moved my head close to its head. Naturally, it moved its head, striking me with its horn. I had to be taken to the hospital.

Bart

Cows are great though. They're pretty much big dogs who often don't realize they're huge.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

This was in India, where cows just randomly walk around everywhere.

Journeyman Geek

Apparently the Cow swam over from malaysia - but no one actually knew where he was from

@Bart quite often ;)

Henders

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Scary :o

Somewhat

Perhaps you have two cows?

Henders

8:36 AM

I don't like having to walk through cow fields

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Somewhat Tucows?

Somewhat

Tucows also, but that's old... and I'm old

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Bart Many more stray dogs wander across the streets than cows.

Journeyman Geek

They're still around

I think they were actually my dad's old domain registar, indirectly

Magisch

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog sounds freaky

Like a stray cat, stray cow

and then people don't kill or capture it because it's holy

Journeyman Geek

8:38 AM

@Magisch in india, basically cows wonder around and forage

they're mostly harmless, as far as a one tonne horned animal can be ;)

Magisch

I do wonder does the indian "no eating cow meat" extend to cow milk?

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch no

Actually cow's milk is the only animal product that indians consider vegitarian

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell I like the second one better

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch also cows are pretty smart

my granma's neighbour had a old bull

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek I guess that's why Indians aren't usually lactose intolerant

Magisch

8:41 AM

What do people do in india when cows die of old age. Is the meat not used?

Journeyman Geek

he's get his owner to harness him up so he can go walkies. (and stop by places where they'd give him treats)

Magisch

Are they buried?

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch well no - and it depends

traditionally they kinda have cow retirement homes

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

My dad was commenting about how cows that perch in the middle of the road act like "free traffic control"

Derpy

...... ok, I think it is time to stop the cow meme - and I know just the right thing that can give them enough of a trauma to forget cows for a while....

Journeyman Geek

8:41 AM

but only hindus consider cows holy so... some other religious groups have less issues with eating them or killing them.

Bart

@Derpy ... uhoh

Journeyman Geek

(also I have no idea what they do to cows that die of old age, not sure how I'd ask the older people ;) )

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

The official U.S. government site that advises people who travel abroad has an interesting tidbit on its page on India. It says that if you hit a cow with a car, you can start a riot, and it recommends driving away from the situation to the nearest police station

Derpy

Have fun. This video was originally shown me by a co-worker.

Should be enough to make you forget cows for a while...

cows & cows & cows

►

Nog Shine

IMO, There is actually no need of editing an old question which asks for user deletion when the user is already deleted.

Journeyman Geek

8:44 AM

makes sense.

Derpy

I take no responsibility for side effect like nightmares and such.

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch I'd almost assume that its ok to skin them post natural death, but....

no one ever talks about it

Also people use leather products and I can't really think of what else they'd use

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek Isn't killing cows illegal in india?

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch not really

So, one of the quirks of india is its officially secular

Magisch

Not sure I'd feel comfortable opening a beef ranch in india

2

seems like it'd be vandalized

Journeyman Geek

8:46 AM

Oh, you might get lynched

but its legal

ugh, my friend actually linked me an article that I hated on people who eat beef in india

Magisch

very reassuring

@JourneymanGeek hm?

Nog Shine

@Magisch In India??

Journeyman Geek

It was well written, but by an organisation that dislikes my folks and had some bits there that ...

hmm how would I put it

(I read it once, read it twice, and then started to tear it apart lol)

she was a little worried I got upset lol

Somewhat

@Derpy from the thumbnail, I almost expected "Badger Badger Badger" instead

Magisch

I wonder how worshipping cows came to be

Journeyman Geek

8:51 AM

thehindu.com/thread/arts-culture-society/article7832539.ece @Magisch its worth noting the person who wrote it is a member of a party that historically wanted my people wiped out, and tries to draw a line between local faith structures and the broader hindu "orthodoxy"

@Magisch they're more useful alive than dead

Somewhat

worshipping trees? or nature? Animism?

Journeyman Geek

living cattle provide milk, more cows, a organic tractor ....

There's more complicated folklore but I think its that simple

rene

@AnneDaunted just out of curiosity, what is your selection criteria to choose which posts to edit? Is this the score -13 batch?

Journeyman Geek

@rene does Anne hang out here?

Guess so

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I had cousins from India visit me, and they were fully vegan, not eating products containing eggs.

rene

9:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek they were pingable so I gave it a try

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@rene Strange, I found that they're not pingable here, did you also invite them?

Journeyman Geek

@rene ah, I guess so

I checked after I asked

rene

whatever. It is not life threatening if there is no response.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Never mind, just caching, they showed up as pingable after a page refresh

Journeyman Geek

also lol I got curious, dug around the site and nuked two OT posts that were at 2 delete posts

Nog Shine

9:10 AM

I am using a filter for posts only from one week after looking at these edits.

Somewhat

9:22 AM

Since today is the next batch for SENT (Stack Exchange New Themes)... expect more grumpy users :)

Magisch

I wonder if the welcoming initiative has made a dent in the user attrition rate

Was re-reading tims post about SO's attrition and wondered if there's been any change

Journeyman Geek

9:50 AM

One would hope so

I still feel that the more active measures proposed - like the new user templates would probably help.

Magisch

I'm just wondering because all we've seen is the internal side of the initiative. Like the meta wars and discussion threads. It'd be interesting to see if anything changed externally, i.E if SO is actually more welcoming now.

Bart

It's so welcoming now that users are fleeing because they assume we must be a cult.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315630/… (@Shadow @rene @Glorfindel)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch I should ask my cousin

he's a lurker

b_jonas

Is there an SE site that's like superuser.com but includes questions about mobile phones?

Journeyman Geek

9:59 AM

errrr

Android and Apple se?

Somewhat

@b_jonas looks like XY problem...

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Hmm. What if my phone is neither Android nor Apple?

Somewhat

Oh, the general mobile site? no.

Journeyman Geek

What sorta phone?

There's also a windows mobile site

but ... I don't think anyone would have one of those

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Nokia feature phone. I can tell how I can decode and encode VCF contact list files that I can save and restore on the phone from the phone memory to SD card. And right now I'm chatting with Nokia support to find out why I can't restore from VFC on Nokia 150.

Journeyman Geek

10:01 AM

.... 150?

maaaan

No, no really good site for that

b_jonas

They can't help.

Journeyman Geek

Ya, no good SE site for that

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek I tried to search on Google. I found a webpage that tried to give an answer, but it doesn't actually work on my Nokia 150. Maybe I need a different firmware, but I don't know how to install one.

Somewhat

or different VCF version?

Journeyman Geek

not really much use installing different firmware on a feature phone

can you get the file out?

and what're you trying to do actually

read it?

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10:05 AM

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b_jonas

@Somewhat I can't even find a menu entry anywhere to restore in my 150. There is a menu entry in the 216 (older phone).

Journeyman Geek

On my mom's E71, the contact list was a text file

ohhhhh

b_jonas

I can read and write the VCF file, yes, I figured that out for the Nokia 216.

Journeyman Geek

sorry dude. Pretty much out of luck as far as SE goes

b_jonas

I haven't tried saving a contacts file on the 150 yet. There's a menu entry, but because I haven't entered contacts yet, I haven't tried. Now I'm going to try to transfer some phone numbers on a SIM card, but I need to exclude some numbers for that because my contacts list is just over the limit of 250 entries for the SIM card.

Journeyman Geek

10:07 AM

hmmm

dxsdata.com/2016/08/…

this sounds logical

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b_jonas

Oh, and I mustn't forget to reset the time after that. Because I have to remove the battery to change the SIM, and the phone clock on the 216 doesn't run while the battery is off.

@JourneymanGeek That's for Nokia 130. My newer phone is Nokia 150. Not the same model.

Journeyman Geek

@b_jonas the process might be similar?

Somewhat

I dunno... quick search suggested that go to the ‘Import / Export’ section of the ‘Contacts’ folder of your Nokia 150

Journeyman Geek

IDK, its a fairly quick thing to try

b_jonas

10:09 AM

@Somewhat I found a different website saying that, but the Contacts folder only has a "Backup" entry, and that says my phonebook is empty. It doesn't offer me to restore.

Journeyman Geek

@b_jonas its about the same era and might have the same OS

so

> Enter: Contacts -> Settings -> Restore contacts (this option is not visible if the phone does not find backup.dat!)

makes sense...

soooo

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Yes, and so is the 216. The 130 is between the 216 and the 150. But the 216 and 150 was made by a different manufacturer than the 150, even though they look similar outside and in the firmware.

Journeyman Geek

I mean "It didn't work" is different from "It won't/cannot work cause its the exact same model"

@b_jonas have you tried it? ;)

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Then I might have put the backup.dat in the wrnog directory.

Journeyman Geek

this is possible

b_jonas

10:12 AM

2 mins ago, by b_jonas

@Somewhat I found a different website saying that, but the Contacts folder only has a "Backup" entry, and that says my phonebook is empty. It doesn't offer me to restore.

Journeyman Geek

hm

why not add a dummy phone number, backup, see where it backs up....

b_jonas

I'll have to double-check if the directory and filename "Backup\backup.dat" is the same as what the 216 saves though.

Somewhat

bongi!

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Yes, I'll try that, except I'll transfer phone numbers through SIM card instead of entering them.

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b_jonas

10:16 AM

Then even if the full transfer fails, I'll have my more important contacts on the 150 (which is the spare phone I want to have ready any time the 216 is stolen or broken) even if I can't figure out the VCF restore.

Give me some time, I have some other things to do.

What makes this harder is that the 150 doesn't even have a file browser, so I can only directly see the file system through USB as external disk or by removing the SD card.

The older 216 at least has a file browser.

It seems like a downgrade to a newer model for the same price so far.

Mind you, the 216 is already terrible.

In many ways.

I don't recommend buying either.

It's obvious that even they are ashamed of the line: they don't tell the model number anywhere, neither under the battery nor in the menu somewhere, so you can't write bad reviews so easily.

It only says "Nokia".

Somewhat

No, KIA :(

b_jonas

10:33 AM

The strange thing is that I also don't find the setting in the Nokia 150 to make the contact list display only the contacts in phone memory, only in SIM1, only on SIM2.

Somewhat

I'm afraid we can't help more than this though...

b_jonas

@Somewhat No problem, I can look around on websites other than SE.

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Journeyman Geek

@b_jonas Nokia is odd

Especially if it's a pre hmd/ms era Nokia feature phone

Somewhat

S60

Journeyman Geek

10:48 AM

Wait they are newish o0

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Somewhat

I was also surprised by that. But the more surprising thing is, I failed to find which OS they use...

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek The 150 is a HMD phone, the 216 is an MS phone.

Journeyman Geek

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_150 wiki says series 30+

b_jonas

Also... wait, there are two different phones called "Nokia 130" from the same series?

strange

Yes, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Series_30%2B

Journeyman Geek

10:51 AM

@b_jonas could be Ms or stump Nokia designed still

b_jonas

How are they reusing numbers so quickly?

Can't they find a new number?

Journeyman Geek

:)

3310…

There's actually 2 or 3 different models of that

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_3310_(2017) 3 versions with different oses

Magisch

What a clusterchuckle :p

b_jonas

In case it matters, both my 216 and the 130 are the dual sim variants.

Derpy

If it can be of any relief... other companies sometimes aren't much better.

b_jonas

11:05 AM

@Derpy That's why I didn't spend time to read reviews of phones by other companies to potentially find a better phone.

I just bought the newest one from the only Nokia series with a non-flat keypad for myself.

Derpy

I have lost a day trying to understand why an Asus modem/router wasn't working... only to discover that after the last firmware update... pressing reset for 5 seconds no longer does reset the router.

Now you have to press the WPS button.

b_jonas

(For my grandmother, I bought a non-Nokia, one with a large but low res display and large buttons.)

@Derpy How about holding down the reset button for 90 seconds, of which the middle 30 seconds you pull the power cord off, but the first 30 and last 30 seconds you have the power cord on? That's pretty much a universal recommendation for routers with a reset button, since they check the reset button at different times.

Derpy

the 30-30-30 procedure. Yep, doesn't work.

They changed the button.

b_jonas

Ouch.

Journeyman Geek

Ow

Derpy

11:09 AM

Have discovered it because some newer models use the WPS button for reset, while the reset button is only used to enter "restore mode"

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@b_jonas Only needs to be done for 10 seconds, I did that when hacking my TM-AC1900U into a RT-AC68U

Derpy

and that game me the idea... "what if they had the brilliant idea of updating the firmware to the new standard WITHOUT TELLING IT TO THE USER?"

b_jonas

@Derpy But why is the new standard making the reset button not work, on a device that has a reset button?

Derpy

@b_jonas Because in the secret Asus language, "reset" means "keep pressed to enter restore mode" and "WPS" means "keep pressed to reset".

or at least this is my current deduction

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b_jonas

11:14 AM

Hmm. I transferred contacts via SIM card, then backed them up, and yes, now there is a "Restore Contacts" menu item.

Journeyman Geek

Yay

b_jonas

Now I'll check the file system to see where it put that, and in what format.

But hiding a menu entry like that is a stupid interface.

It should always show the menu entry, and give a sensible error message if I run it and there's no file.

Also, I still don't see a menu entry to make the contact list show entries only from phone memory, not from SIM, and that would make the contact list very annoying to use.

Journeyman Geek

Yup

b_jonas

I want to have at least some phone numbers on the SIM card as backup in case the phone is broken but the SIM isn't lost and I try to make a phone call with a phone I haven't configured.

Sure, I also have other backup options, but still.

Ah.

Backup filename is "/backup.dat", not "/Backup/backup.dat". Ok.

Let me try to move the real backup there and restore.

Copying files to SD card in phone through USB is slow, but for small files like this it doesn't matter, and for large files I can use an SD card reader.

Derpy

oh, nice. Playstation Mini coming out 3 December

b_jonas

11:24 AM

Ok, let's see what happens.

"264 contacts restored" it says

Yup, seems to have restored every contact. If only I could hide the contacts on SIM1.

Journeyman Geek

If you have a blog. You should document this :)

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Thanks for the hint.

Contacts transferred, so spare phone is basically ready to use. I'll obviously re-transfer the latest contact file and recharge the battery occasionally or when my current primary phone breaks.

(The current primary phone is the previous spare phone. The phone before that was much better in most respects, despite being older.)

(Admittedly that one cost somewhat more second-hand than any of these cost new.)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

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(sorry, couldn't resist)

Journeyman Geek

@b_jonas just curious - why the feature phone?

Anne Daunted

12:10 PM

@rene Yes, to some extent. Is this annoying? Shall I stop it?

Tim, I hope you don't mind my small edits to your posts lately

Journeyman Geek

@AnneDaunted just to say - those sort of edits on my recent questions are welcome and I'll accept any suggested edits of the sort you do.

Anne Daunted

Thanks, Journeyman! I already wondered if it was not maybe too much or you felt targeted

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek FYI Anne now has binding edit privileges

@AnneDaunted I think he's been feeling targeted for edits for quite a while

Journeyman Geek

Oh. The it's/its issue is something that is really hard for me to catch and and I am fine with it

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@AnneDaunted Out of curiosity, what pronouns are proper for you? By default, I use plural pronouns, but if you prefer otherwise, let me know.

Journeyman Geek

12:19 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I can speak for myself

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek No problem.

Derpy

12:37 PM

"Friendship is Magic"

Tinkeringbell

Actually, it's often more about self-disclosure and reciprocity ;)

Magisch

Tinkeringbell, PhD interpersonal relations

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Heh ;) Not really, but I wrote an answer on that thing remember? :P

Anne Daunted

@JourneymanGeek Maybe you want to add chat to your newest question? It seems fitting. On a sidenote, whenever someone complains about their closed / deleted question because they were too subjective, one suggestion guaranteed to come up is "ask in chat"

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell Dr Tinkeringbell, PhD Interpersonal Relations

:D

Tinkeringbell

12:54 PM

I'm just googling ;)

Really. I feel overvalued right now ;)

Journeyman Geek

@AnneDaunted maybe but it was as much the term help vampire as anything

Thing is on the main sites, there's kind of an immune system for those

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek Multiple reasons. 1. I already spend too much time configuring my computers at home and work, and online chatting and all other stuff like that. If I bought a smartphone, then I'd spend even more time with that sort of thing.

Journeyman Geek

So most of the examples that came to mind we're chat

@b_jonas ah. Good enough

b_jonas

2. That calls into: I don't like Android, at least as it currently is. Often full of security bugs, because phone manufacturers don't push updates from upstream and add their own custom buggy software. 3. I also don't like the interface of Android (and Windows phone), where you can change config settings with one accidental touch and you'll have no confirm or cancel buttons and no way to tell what you changed.

Anne Daunted

Ok

Journeyman Geek

1:03 PM

Eh. Also true

@AnneDaunted that's a little lost and maybe I can be clearer about that

b_jonas

4. I want a phone with a non-flat keypad so I can type without constantly looking at the screen, and feel where each of the buttons are. Sadly now even most feature phones have a flat keypad, which is harder to use. I don't know why that is. And the few that have a non-flat keypad suck. My old Nokia feature phone was much better all around.

Previous mobile phone was Nokia 6303c, I bought it second-hand because it was already out of the market by the time I bought it. Pretty good phone.

Nokia doesn't make phones like that anymore, sadly.

user194636

I was surprised how well a swipe keyboard worked for me.

Journeyman Geek

@b_jonas heh, those things ALL make sense

rene

@AnneDaunted It makes the active tab a bit noisy for me but if I know it is based on score I can quickly skim and skip those initially and revisit if I see fit. No need to stop for me.

b_jonas

@JourneymanGeek For some people. I can understand why some other people want a smartphone.

Journeyman Geek

1:16 PM

yup

b_jonas

Also, 5. I can get out much easier if my mother asks for help fixing his Android phone.

Journeyman Geek

snort

I CAN TOTALLY RELATE TO THAT

b_jonas

(For this you need to know the context that my brother is an Android phone geek, so he helps a lot in that. Meanwhile I can help a bit in his Windows PC, but leave most of it to my father.)

Journeyman Geek

I fix everything at home ;p

(computers,... plumbing...)

Anne Daunted

@rene Sorry, I didn't know that they would show up in the active tab. They don't show up in mine.

b_jonas

1:22 PM

I mean, come on, the photos he takes with his own phone camera get added to the same shared drive (Google Drive or MS OneDrive, I'm not sure) as the photos he receives from other people through Viber or whatever other message app that is. They're totally mixed with no easy way to group them. I tried to find his own camera's photos by image metadata once, which should work in theory, but failed for some reason, I lost my patience and gave up before I figured out why.

And she has a ton of both of those kinds of photos, and most of the photos she makes are terrible.

So obviously I asked my brother before I tried the image metadata thing. He said afahk there was no easy way to just tell one of those apps to put them in different directories.

Journeyman Geek

lol

rene

@AnneDaunted Oh, that is strange. I just checked in incognito and I see them here (scroll a bit down).

Journeyman Geek

well, android has auto backup that's a bit odd

Anne Daunted

@rene I guess I know why - I'm on "Top Questions" (burger menu -> "Home") while your link is to "All Questions" (burger menu -> "Questions")

rene

@AnneDaunted Yes, you're right. That view doesn't show the posts that you recently touched. So for visitors that land there it will be ok and also for users that look at the newest tab. Only those few fanatics that want to keep an eye on each and every edit have to adjust a bit ;) ... I'll manage.

Anne Daunted

1:35 PM

No, you needn't to. I'm really sorry about that. I will be less ... enthusiastic in the future

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Derpy

@b_jonas On older IPhone / IPad models, deleted pictures aren't deleted. They are logically deleted, but still on the phone.

rene

@AnneDaunted It makes me sad if I have reduced your enthusiasm :( that was not my intent

Derpy

What is even more interesting is that while browsing a gallery the images are given a sort of "static" index that is kept even when the image is deleted.

Anne Daunted

Oh no, don't feel saddened!

rene

1:43 PM

Ok

Anne Daunted

It's good that you told me. My intention was never to flood the whole tab with it

Derpy

so, suppose you have Img A and Img B. You delete Img B and add ImgC. Now, when you browse to ImgC the phone displays ImgB too, underside ImgC.

for the finishing touch.... now suppose ImgC is a transparent gif....

This old article should discuss the same bug

Couldn't find a more technical article link, sorry.

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