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1:42 AM
There are lots of people who are interested in TempleOS and Evan's questions -- which all seem very reasonable and useful and exactly the type of content I would expect Stack Exchange to want to create -- have collected a bunch of downvotes that don't seem reasonable.
I am not impressed.
You (collective not personal) are living up to his paranoia.
Wow, we gotta fix this
Bug report right here I think
So, here's the odd thing. What Evan's doing is entirely within the rules. Wasting your own time is literally fine, even if its an OS written by someone who... quite literally seems to be a little crazy . And here's the thing. Assuming good intent, and not arguing with Evan about whether this is a waste of his time, free or otherwise... is probably the most productive thing to do. I'm sure that if we engage constructively (or not at all), any issues we have will sort themselves out. — Journeyman Geek ♦ Jun 7 at 3:08
@SomethingBadHappened and I am wondering, now, if defending him was a mistake.
Other than that I'd have done the same for any other user.
Your comment is has good advice.
I bet the chat experts can fix this
Yeah it's really annoying, can anyone help?
1:56 AM
I know it works ok otherwise
what happens when you turn off the addon?
Let me see...
2:07 AM
I see a morning glory
flailing inside my head
@Somewhat apparently wrong term -_-
Shog9 helped me with my issue
Making the text white seems like... a bad move
Well it's the add-on I had
Made the background white
Which made the text not visible because the text is also white
2:22 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted username (178): How to convert 3g2 to mp4 without losing audio? by daveclark966 on superuser.com
2:49 AM
Happy Diwali!
3:36 AM
Android.SE election might be disappointing... (1 mod step down, thus looking for 2 candidates, 1 invalid nomination removed, 1 valid nomination was self-taken down, currently 0 nominations, 5 days left)
4:02 AM
so, free moderatorship to anybody who can get 300 rep in 5 days?
apparently 2 mods step down...
That's potentially pretty bad
since its a mature/graduated community, with a fairly important niche
ah, looks like there are 2 serious candidates (including the one who mysteriously deleted his nomination for now)
so, it only leaves 1 more nomination to get the election proceed
4:47 AM
can't they just copy a couple of mods from Ask Different?
Q: Persistently or aggressively enabling Battery Saver

user1126I love the Battery Saver feature. When I'm travelling or in other situations where reliable communication is more important than user experience, I want to always have it enabled, sometimes for days at a time. However, Android automatically turns it off after the phone has been charged, requiri...

[upvote-pls] 38 times so I can nominate for Android.SE moderator.
heh, if it's only nomination to proceed the election, I can nominate easily...
Needs to be at least three users nominating since there are two open positions
1 hour later…
6:40 AM
@SomethingBadHappened pretty sure they would just withdraw nominations from people who got to 300 rep exactly for this purpose
Otherwise someone with time on their hands could get into that with ~100 suggested edits or any lesser number and a couple of answers
6:51 AM
@Somewhat Other than Dan Hulme, which other Android moderator is resigning?
> Apart from Dan, elderatthis has also stepped down. Ibug and Firelord are contenders for sure
> Ibug already filled his nomination (deleted for mysterious reason) and answered while Firelord confirmed yesterday in chat
@Somewhat iBug was suspended here on MSE during the past year, and is as such ineligible to nominate. His nomination was removed by an SE employee.
oh great...
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): English translation of Steinitz 1910? by Imran520 on mathoverflow.net
@Somewhat so all they need is one more to fill the "must be an actual election" criterion
7:14 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog no. Bug report or feature request that have not been fixed/done can't be closed as duplicate (well, they can, but shouldn't) of another feature request or bug report that were marked as completed. This lower the chances of ever fixing that bug or adding that feature to solid 0.
What being asked by @Mad was never done. I didn't look in the dupe answers, it is not relevant.
(since the dupe is marked completed.)
So sorry, but I'm not helping to kill a pending feature request.
@JourneymanGeek yup, NAA on SO too.
@SomethingBadHappened you can't, you were suspended on MSE so you can't take part in any SE mod election for a year. (Since the suspension ended, probably.)
The system will let you, but CM/SE staff will remove it, as they did with Evan and probably others who tried in the past.
Suspension. Suspension everywhere!
7:30 AM
woohoo, I'm below 100k.
giving back all the cakes
@ShadowWizard Congratulation on dropping below 100k!
... like that? ._.
ahhh bounties
@Somewhat thanks!
@JourneymanGeek yeah, didn't post spam. Yet. :P
I mean for dropping under 100k lol
100 rep for a really good answer that gives a workaround to major bug SE won't fix. (People can't change password.)
7:35 AM
GoPro is black. It has been named "Eye of Sauron".
Now that's something worth tweeting/ranting about, more than HNQ crap.
going on rampage over not being able to change password ;)
@Mithrandir it's... what?
@ShadowWizard funny thing is when we had openid, I had a spare openid provider "in case" that I controlled myself
7:36 AM
@JourneymanGeek huh? Sorry, lost you on this one. ?
@ShadowWizard I think a lot of people still have a tender spot over twitter drama
@ShadowWizard It's not per se. The proposed target consists of two requests, one of which was completed (hence the entire question being marked completed). The question I linked to in my message is a duplicate of the second request there, which is marked in Taryn's answer to the target as declined.
@Mithrandir improved "rolling eyes" emoticon? :P
@ShadowWizard so I could set a disposable password on an account ;p
anyway, SE's account option has always been a bit of an afterthought
7:38 AM
@JourneymanGeek of course, but it's on low fire for now.
If my linked question above were to provide new arguments or show awareness of that post, I'd leave it alone, but it doesn't do either, so the request.
@ShadowWizard eh, not really. We're still waiting for the official response and... its taking a little longer than even I'm comfortable with
@ShadowWizard GoPro has three models of the Hero7 camera: White, Silver, and Black - getting better, in that order. This one's a Black. If I get a white, I'm naming it "palantír".
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so fix the older question, SE questions can't consist of two questions.
@ShadowWizard yeah, blockchain-based emoticon
7:39 AM
@ShadowWizard I'd invalidate the answer.
@Somewhat ewww, surely @Oded can make those! :P
Also there's a stricter threshold for closing as too broad here on MSE.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so just let it be, but don't use the broken question for other things.
@ShadowWizard Meaning?
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer (159): Why is the military so much involved in Pakistan's establishment as compared to India? by Shobi on politics.SE
7:40 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog not close, the ideal way is to split such a question into two questions, each with its own, well, question.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog don't choose such a question as dupe target.
@JourneymanGeek not really? You mean the fire is not low? looking around
not enough smoke
@ShadowWizard well things could catch fire at any time? or its a little too low and the pot isn't boiling?
@Mithrandir you give name to your... camera?! lol that's a new one. :D
giving name to my cellular phone
@ShadowWizard well why not?
@ShadowWizard actually my phones have names ;p
@JourneymanGeek if it requires boiling pot to move things around it's sad. But not surprising. ;)
@ShadowWizard You need to set a name for it to work.
7:43 AM
My last phone was "brick"
My phone is named "Elucidator".
@Mithrandir hehe, that's official name everyone can see. I mean some private nickname. :D
@ShadowWizard you sometimes need heat to make something tasty. Or for make some glue to stick
My computer is named Tauremornalómë.
7:44 AM
(I ordered it online and someone was saying "they might send you a brick"
@JourneymanGeek heh
@Mithrandir most of my systems have greek, roman or egyptian deities as names
Mine are almost always a reference to something :P
@JourneymanGeek Thor?
(I have nyx (its black), phoebe (my netbook) Athena (actually its a name I've recycled thrice) heckate (odd spelling but I mispelled when I built it - its my router) ...
7:46 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (80): Is it true that some people naturally lose weight faster than others? by Shobi on fitness.SE
Heck, who cares how you spell it?
@Mithrandir ya but I don't want to correct it either ;p
@Mithrandir Sonic, who luckily can't connect to @Journeyman's router. ;)
@ShadowWizard actually
there's SSH access to the outside world
He can?! lol
7:47 AM
you need the IP and port though ;)
(and username, password, ssh key...)
username: geek
password: ash
heh nope ;)
My smartphone is "Keter", and my PC is "Thaumiel"
(I use a non standard port cause port 22 gets a lot of wild unguided hacking attempts)
@Somewhat heh, "Keter" is a word in Hebrew meaning "crown", but surely that wasn't your intention? :)
7:50 AM
@ShadowWizard lol I dunno ._O, but I'm waiting for another reaction...
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (81): How to include money spent on business as losses by Shobi on money.SE
@ShadowWizard I wouldn't on a main Q&A site, but on meta sites, questions can be closed as dupes if the answer to the proposed target answers the proposed dupe, and Taryn's answer to my proposed target answers the question I linked.
I did ask for no shouting!
7:53 AM
@JourneymanGeek Out of curiosity, what's this game that you and @Tinkeringbell have going on?
> "Thaumiel" is an esoteric object class, used for objects that do not fit into one of the three major classifications for anomalous objects or entities. Specifically, the "Thaumiel" classification denotes objects or entities that are used to contain other anomalous objects or entities
This? ;)
@JourneymanGeek OH. LET ME JOIN IN THEN.
(I literally say good morning in all caps, and tink mock complains shrug)
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog CAPS LOCK GAME
7:54 AM
@ShadowWizard actually...
the caps lock on my systems are usually disabled
@JourneymanGeek I never mock complain.
Your shouting is waking me up!
Precisely... OH WAIT.
@JourneymanGeek unless they are enabled? ;)
@ShadowWizard I actually press shift the whole time
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Macchiato for @TINK
7:56 AM
@JourneymanGeek you... what?! lOL
@ShadowWizard yup
So that's cheating!
@ShadowWizard I find capslock more an annoyance
Well, so the game can't be called this way. Let's find another name...
so I remap it
7:56 AM
Also ash never actually wakes me up by barking
Because he never barks loud enough, or because you got used to his barks?
miXeD cAse GaMe
@ShadowWizard its not his style
@Somewhat uNreAdabLe gAMe
7:57 AM
he used to bounce on the side of my bed
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): How to teach a person to enjoy programming? by rsg2003 on cseducators.SE
@JourneymanGeek he got CSS at least? ;)
@SmokeDetector let me spam on MetaSmoke: by playing Colobot
whoa... 99999 rep. That's... weird. :D
8:07 AM
@SmokeDetector Wrong! I got a latte
(I also have a refinement followed by a stand-up, so I'll be back!)
@Somewhat No such command 'coffeetea'.
!!/coffee tea
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Affogato for @tea
8:09 AM
@TimPost you know, hanging tight for so long (3 weeks by now) is painful. ;) — Shadow Wizard 55 secs ago
Q: How much overall money does SE make through the Amazon link rewriter, and is it worth it?

Sonic the Anonymous HedgehogThis is not a duplicate of How much revenue does Stack Exchange make by auto-inserting affiliate ID into all Amazon links? as that asks about the percent cut of sales made through the affiliate program with Amazon. This question asks about overall revenue instead. As most of us active here know,...

@ShadowWizard You just put up a bounty
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog and got upvote
I was at 99989 before.
And Jon's office is frozen again. That's what you get when you don't put bots. ;)
@Somewhat which is one drop in the ocean compared to the art style regression that seems to be popular in American cartons. Maybe it is just a Carton Network thing, but yet...
hmm... I can star messages in a deleted chat room. Bug?
@Sonic I think you have better chance if you'll post a feature request asking to remove the auto-replace of amazon links, leaving aside any mention of money, and focusing on this being old and probably inefficient feature with lots of bugs. Not sure how much upvotes it will get, but pretty sure it will be received better than your current discussion.
@ShadowWizard I want the revenue number from SE.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You won't get it.
(unless you'll get hired as SE management)
(or start working for Amazon itself and get hold of their database ;))
The title's impact is too strong before reading the finer detail about the bug
@rene why you stopped pinging? Only Journeyman asked to be removed from your list, but others didn't. No?
sure @ShadowWizard
bathing in pings
8:24 AM
there is your ping
here is your daily ping @ShadowWizard
Me want moar!
@Somewhat daily? :( :( :(
I'll starve if only one ping a day!
Kaboom :)
Still at 99999. Considering undoing some old downvote to make it 100000.... ;)
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog read my comment. Clickbait titles should only be used to make silly jokes or undeserving content enter the HNQ list, never to try to advertise a real problem. It is pretty clear that asking the numbers there isn't the real objective of the question - the real problem is that the url rewriter module is poorly implemented.
Asking how much money the url rewriting generates is probably a provocation in order to implicitly ask if that money is worth the "damage" it generates too.
8:36 AM
@Derpy I guess it used to work fine in the beginning, but with time Amazon probably added more kinds of links, and of course nobody on SE is there to change the code, so naturally it starts to fall apart, exactly like the apps do.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog But sadly it is also one very nice excuse for stopping reading the question at the title, downvote it and dismiss the discussion before it starts
You should know, you are on meta. What you say is often not very important... it is all about HOW you say it :P
And about people losing their keys...
@Derpy so damn true
It's actually very political
8:51 AM
No parties though.
i motion to form the "lost key" party
Led by Tim?
@ShadowWizard well, not in the traditional sense
And untraditional sense?
Well it's a mix of causes and personality I guess
9:08 AM
"The Lost Key - part 1", a bestseller written by Tim Post.
People can be strange, as whole. Just read about a city in USA where the city people elected a dead man to be their mayor.
He died few weeks before the elections, not on the elections day.
Who elected nobody because nobody's perfect???
There was other candidate, think a woman.
@Somewhat "Tales of the Lost Key and the Plush Unicorn"
Think I combined them in my story... I don't remember by now... lol
Yes I did.
A: Choose your own swag - the craziest contest idea ever! What were we thinking?

Shadow WizardThe Power of the Unicorn It was a sunny day, but the heat did not reach my heart which was clutched with fear and worry. My best friend, Katrina, disappeared. She should have contacted me by now, sending me a reassurance she is all right, but yet for the last two hours I was just sitting here, ...

Worked so hard on that one, got the swag as result of the silly song instead. lol
9:18 AM
wonder if we could start a free dramma this year during Winterbash to spice things up a little
they usually do at leas one hat that is a reference to a specific culture / religion / area, right?
Just bring up the twitter drama, it always work.
Think that could be enough to start a twitter fight claiming the hats are not inclusive enough?
Twitter is not inclusive enough...
@Derpy usually two: Christmas which is Christian holiday and Hanukka which is a Jewish holiday. They just often happen in almost same time.
9:21 AM
Due to popular demand, no hats for you ...
@Derpy There was that drama about the one hat that was about meat consumption and offended someone I think
Hat-red hat
@rene @Pops is still around?
I guess so
@Somewhat red Oracle hat
> Last seen Jul 26 at 0:22
So, not really...
9:22 AM
@Magisch I think that in 2016 about 15 of the hats where reference to male characters, while only about 2-3 were about female ones... This could work maybe...
Last activity of @Pops in whole network is a comment congratulating @Catija. :)
(back in July)
Try this, but with Pops instead...
Am I late to the party or did this room miss this?
@ShadowWizard I think I read a comment he wrote somewhere that he's retired that account. I'm not sure whether he has a different one, though.
@rene I think Shadow tried !!/hats, but got swept to the chimney...
9:28 AM
Oh, I need to exclude those from now on?
Mar 29 '17 at 8:02, by Derpy
... today I must be sleepier than usual. Balpha avatar looked like FuriousDestroyer/Pat to me....
@rene not really, just include Shadow instead from now on :D
@balpha @tarynpivots @kerrick We regret to inform you balpha was #fired while you were out, sorry!
oh, look what chat search decided to spit out while I was searching for that message.
@Catija oh. That's sad. :(
@Somewhat no hats command, it's not even saying "no such command", just ignores it.
@ShadowWizard No such command 'hatts'.
9:34 AM
So there is "hats" command, it's just doing.... nothing.
@rene heh, didn't see it before. ;)
@Derpy what message?
@ShadowWizard the one I linked just a little before that
in RPG General Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Derpy
@trogdor seems teardown of the 2017 winterbash site has started. Scripts are starting to fail
Really. It's that I know it's only 1,5 months or something on this team left, or I'd start plucking out feathers!
Anyone ever heard of having a DoR and DoD per story when working Agile?
Door and DVD? Nope.
Definition of Ready, Definition of Done... and then they also put the ACC (acceptance criteria) in there...
@Tinkeringbell well, in the DoD you have criteria that apply to a story, if that is what you mean
9:40 AM
TL;DR that third team is also not professional enough, in addition to being not nice? @Tink
@rene Yeah, yet for me the DoD is the same for all stories and includes stuff like 'tests are made', 'tests are done', 'code is written', 'code is peer reviewed', 'code is reworked', 'story meets acceptance criteria' etc...
@ShadowWizard That team is doing some really, really weird scrumming.
9:42 AM
Also, we apparently poker our stories at the sprint planning, not at the refinement sessions.
So we just talked for about an hour about a single story, everyone now knows what we're talking about... and we don't poker it?!
'code is compiling'
^ "code actually compiles" would be a better one, I guess :P
So.. to summarize...
all this sounds like a foreign language
9:43 AM
And that's @Tinker's battle cry! ^
@JourneymanGeek "you have to be agile while sprinting in a scrum"
Poor enemies are crushed by the Mad Parrot... :D
"poker our stories"
Is it just me or has Gmail somehow managed to screw up telling you what mail you have (more than usual)? Messages I've read and deleted a few days ago keep coming back into my inbox as unread, and then they disappear again after refreshing a few times, and I have similar problems with new mails.
9:44 AM
@ShadowWizard I'll need an axe, two swords, a bow an arrow, and a load of medieval torture devices?
Poker! I ardly know er....
@Tinkeringbell on the next retrospective ... let's stop doing all that non-sense
hands @Tinkeringbell a nickleback cd
@Tinkeringbell no. Just your beak and claws are enough to defeat any enemy. :P
get a cowbell
9:45 AM
@rene Heh. I already kinda tried that :P
I'm not going to be a team favorite here, that much is clear to me.
@JourneymanGeek medieval torture devices :P
@Tinkeringbell so... the rickroll song?
@ShadowWizard Perhaps. Battle parrot! I do want a good looking armour though.
@Tinkeringbell want to do like we apparently do and use a dice instead?
@JourneymanGeek Do you know your time-periods? :P
@Tinkeringbell every team has a not being favorite
9:46 AM
@NotThatGuy umm, don't know about "read" issue, but I've been facing "delete" issues many times for a long time...
@Tinkeringbell I'm a dog. That's forever ago.
@ShadowWizard Ah, but that one is green and looks more like a hummingbird?
@JourneymanGeek Heh :)
9:47 AM
here's your battle parrot
@Somewhat Me too, but it feels a lot worse recently. Like roughly every mail I delete ends up coming back.
I'm going to crochet an F-bomb when I'm home. I'm needing one right now.
might be a selling one too
Should I ask... ? ;)
9:50 AM
20K re-post meta.stackexchange.com/q/317990/158100 /cc @ShadowWizard
lines and lines ?
That sir, appears to indeed be a F bomb
9:51 AM
Exactly that.
Does it explode?
I'm going to use a bowling ball to fill it.
Make it a really, really big one
then throw it at people?
and throw it hard at some heads
@rene kaboom!
9:51 AM
@ShadowWizard Nah, it's for when I feel like exploding though :P
we're having Bomberman tournament here?
I suggest a 10hr mitchiri neko march loop. Will calm you. Or turn you in the real world equivalent of a Dragonage Tranquil.
Or some yoga.
Or this (NSFW, foul language due to the character's nature)

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