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Journeyman Geek

00:37

GOOD MORNING!

and myself

02:05

DOOG MORNING!

and myself

04:13

sneezing the whole morning (；≧Д≦) =3

Shree

05:54

cv-pls support off-topic wordpress plugin - user1295167‎ - 2018-11-19 05:13:24Z

user312109

Can some one tell me what is going on with my account at Engineering. SE

user312109

engineering.stackexchange.com/users/message/20#20

user312109

Why when trying to fix a question at the request of the moderator then I improved it then he rolled it back then suspended me for a year?

user312109

is this a system problem?

user312109

-2

Q: What are the main problems with lightning being a renewable energy source?

I viewed many engines that are powered by electricity? The problem is driving that much current through transformers and even the wire. The levitron little spinning magnet is suspended by a magnet. Could a huge levetron be hard wired capture lightning from power poles through a huge coil large ...

user312109

05:58

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Q: What is this name shown on comment from other poeople?

In this question Would harvesting static electricity from the atmosphere work with a kinetic flywheel? and may be others the comments are showing Timothy Caddell instead of the given Muze I go by. Why is it doing that?

discussion user-accounts

Journeyman Geek

@Muze probably no one but an engineering mod can answer the fomer

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I have rolled back the recent edits on this question as they invalidated the existing answers. — GlenH7 ♦ 9 hours ago

user312109

Well there you are

user312109

I would have reworked it but as it is no it is not a good question and the new on better depicts what I imagined. Did I really need suspension for a year?

user312109

sorry I not great at grammar

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

06:04

@Muze Did the mod message you linked above specifically state that the cause of your suspension was because of the edit?

Can I see a screenshot of it?

user312109

standby

user312109

how do I add a picture?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Muze "upload"

user312109

where

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Muze next to "send"

user312109

06:09

i don't have that option

user312109

I'll copy the text

user312109

Moderator Private Message
from moderators
sent 9 hours ago
to
Muze

Hello,

I'm writing in reference to your Engineering Stack Exchange account:

https://engineering.stackexchange.com/users/4139/muze

You have been warned multiple times to not edit questions in a manner that invalidates existing, up-voted answers. Your recent edits to: What are the main problems with lightning being a renewable energy source? invalidated the existing answers, and the edits had to be rolled back. You have left the moderators with no other choice but to suspend your account for violating the site's rules.

user312109

I did not change it in a way that it invalidated any question the last time.

user312109

answer

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Muze How many times have you been warned about this (including times when you may not actually have)? Also, were the first three suspensions about this specifically, or for other causes? In any case, can I please see the three messages corresponding to the first three suspensions?

user312109

06:15

never suspended for revising questions anywhere else

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Muze "as this is the fourth time that your actions have warranted suspension"...can I please see the three moderator messages corresponding to those first three suspensions?

user312109

I didn't invalidate any questions

user312109

answers

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Muze Please do what I asked, or else I won't be able to help you. I'm among one of the few users who's willing to extend you a hand; please don't make me change my mind.

Journeyman Geek

@Muze this isn't really the best place to hash this out

user312109

06:18

sorry

user312109

where is a good place

user312109

@TimothyCaddell - you need to be patient and wait for the community to vote to re-open this. That said, my read of this is that your question is still much too broad to be meaningfully answered here. – GlenH7♦ Dec 22 '15 at 19:43
I have rolled back the recent edits on this question as they invalidated the existing answers. – GlenH7♦ 9 hours ago

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Really, you're not a mod on EE, what help can you be, except recommend using the contact us link?

user312109

look at the last comments. is it not confusing to me am I or not asked to change it and did and got suspended

user312109

He is helping unless you would like to help? My IP is blocked.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

06:22

@Muze Let me make myself clear. As the mod message you've copied and pasted here states, this is your fourth suspension. You were notified in your SE inbox under "moderator message" every time you were suspended. I want you to show me the first three "moderator messages" corresponding to the first three suspensions.

@Tinkeringbell I'm a good mediator, though.

user312109

Over years for small stuff

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Muze Right, I'd like to see what those "small stuff" were.

user312109

let try to find them

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

You can go to your network profile to see all notifications it's received

Tinkeringbell

Okay. @Muze and @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog both of you were said that this wasn't the place to hash this out. Perhaps stop now then?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

06:26

@Muze Per the request, let's not do this here. You can respond in Sonic's Den

user312109

ok

Shree

06:49

cv-pls discussion Off-Topic How to create image-dataset for machine learning models? - sudeep banik‎ - 2018-11-19 06:29:08Z

Journeyman Geek

@Muze the right way is through the mod message and the contract us link

You should know this

and myself

grabs popcorn and watches through the Tavern's window

Tinkeringbell

@andmyself Sorry. Show was cancelled prematurely :P

Shadow Wizard

?

What did I miss?

and myself

someone trying to mediate someone's suspension

Shree

07:04

cv-pls discussion Off-Topic How to calculate left, right, top, bottom value from bitmap to set in RectF + android - NIIT Tech‎ - 2018-11-19 07:02:50Z

and myself

... in a public chat room

Shadow Wizard

lol TMI @Shree you spend too much time on those. ;)

Shree

???

Shadow Wizard

(with author and timestamp and all)

and myself

I believe it's done by a userscript

Shadow Wizard

07:05

ohhhh

Shree

yep US

and myself

perhaps SOCVR's

Shadow Wizard

You @and your userscripts! :P

I feel so primitive being the only one without userscripts. ;)

Shree

:D

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself mediate?

Oh, like I did with @nicael back in the day?

and myself

07:07

I use a userscript to block userscripts... huh? wait...

Shadow Wizard

One Userscript to Control Them All

Quill

sharing userscripts is an se tradition at this point

Shadow Wizard

Sure, then wondering when weird bugs start to happen.

SE change things. Userscript can't possibly predict such changes, hence it ought to break at some point. The one who installed it has 0 chance to figure that's the issue.

Quill

its like a treasure hunt

Shadow Wizard

So... I just avoid this in advance. :)

Quill

07:10

no treasure for you i guess

and myself

@ShadowWizard even Shog asked for a pull request to fix Jason's SE Chat tob par userscript :p

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard It's in the Den

Shadow Wizard

@Quill true :(

Quill

making userscripts was a great way to get into building chrome extensions

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself heh Shog can make his own scripts ;)

Quill

07:18

no need for userscripts if you use custom clients

Rob

@ShadowWizard Honestly, I haven't had too many issues, having 41 installed scripts. Only very occasionally do things break, at least in my experience

And when they do break, it's pretty obvious which script is broken, as most scripts add functionality rather than change it

Shadow Wizard

@user1271772 I know I'm right. :)

@Rob well, it's obvious to you maybe, but I do see lots of bug reports that can't be reproduced which end up as result of broken userscript. :)

Rob

Userscripts or extensions? I've seen plenty of the latter, not many (if any) of the former

Quill

if you post a bug report without at least sandboxing your browser & trying to reproduce then you probably deserve the cv anyway

Shadow Wizard

Poor Sonic wasting his time. But he's going to reach the same conclusion as I did long ago.

Huh. Think he did.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

07:26

@ShadowWizard I know exactly what I'm doing.

Shadow Wizard

Guess drama is now over indeed. :)

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog sure you do. You try to be a good person and I admire it. :)

I believe many did with that specific user, all in vain though.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Could be because they were deflected by the user's messages in the middle. But I wasn't, and continued to push for evidence.

I'm very patient when it comes to these things. My fault is that I expect others to have the same level of patience.

Shadow Wizard

It's like asking a child "Why did you break this toy?" when it's obvious he did it on purpose, i.e. it didn't just fell. Or asking to explain when they hit their sisters/brothers. Explaining bad behavior is usually nearly impossible.

Even for adults.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Yep, that's exactly the point. If they try to deflect instead of providing evidence, that's when I make my conclusion. If the person didn't do it, they'd readily fight the claim directly and not try to deflect it elsewhere.

Shadow Wizard

Also, one can't really give evidence to their thought process leading to some action, so to be honest not sure what you except to get.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

07:32

@ShadowWizard I can. My overarching fault is that I expect other users to be as capable as me.

Shadow Wizard

Probably.

and myself

The user has been suspended on multiple sites, and got answer-ban on few other sites. I'd give up right now...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@andmyself Thanks for helping me.

Shadow Wizard

Sarcasm detector activated

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Allows me to play good cop/bad cop.

Shadow Wizard

07:34

beep beep beep

:D

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard I'm being serious.

Shadow Wizard

Well, one can't play good cop/bad cop by himself. Needs two people for that. :)

and myself

You might as well check their meta posts on other sites than Engineering.SE for... I dunno, additional insight?

Shadow Wizard

To be honest, I realized it's a "dead end" with that user when they posted some total crap answer to some fun swag event previous year or so.

@andmyself oh, you did?

and myself

@ShadowWizard I browse network-wide meta posts, so I tend to cross their path

e.g. physics.meta.stackexchange.com/a/10435/62016

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

07:41

@ShadowWizard The goal of my doing what I do is to either 1. catch them in a blatant lie, 2. have a written record of a lie that can be verified using private moderator evidence, or 3. provide a cogent argument as to why the suspension was in fact unwarranted.

This situation fell under 1.

Tinkeringbell

Guys... This isn't about whether or not we give up this specific user or not. Discussing suspensions in a chat room is just not done, you either reply to your mod message or use contact us, and encouraging people to do otherwise is just as bad.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell That approach has the potential to generate negative publicity on social media, though.

and myself

or electronics.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/6528/…

welp, time to go back to compiling the code...

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself heh. Is user184116 someone familiar?

Magisch

Tinkeringbell is right, it's not really the place of chat to air other people's dirty laundry.

→ 8 messages moved to Chimney | Daily Tavern SmokeDetector Housekeeping

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

07:46

more smoke just as it gets cleaned

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I disagree. It's legit to try and help. If the user is chat banned and can't speak for themselves I agree, it's not nice to talk about them when they can't respond, but this is a different case. Unfair suspensions happen, people sometimes don't get the system; Trying to help them understand and indirectly have their suspension lifted is a good thing. Maybe not in public place like this room, but in general? Nothing wrong with it when done in a good nature.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog self destructing smoke...

and myself

This is my worst fear that I shouldn't run for mod...

I really really have to learn self-control

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself dealing with such users?

You appear to control yourself well here in this whole recent drama. No? ;)

and myself

@ShadowWizard if that's the case, I'll let other mod handle it...

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself or escalate it upwards... :)

and myself

07:58

@ShadowWizard looks like I poured some oil just now?

Shadow Wizard

hmm?

and myself

I dunno... I'm confused and afraid...

Shadow Wizard

That's what you did?

:P

@andmyself no need to, really.

Maybe a coffee will help?

!!/coffee andmy

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Latte for @andmy

Shadow Wizard

And to make sure nobody will get jealous...

!!/coffee Andras

SmokeDetector

08:01

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of jQuery for @Andras

and myself

@SmokeDetector I do have Coffee Latte right now...

Shadow Wizard

Good. All sorted. :D

and myself

@SmokeDetector congrats...

Shadow Wizard

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard It's Dragonrage's fault.

Shadow Wizard

08:02

Here. Tavern back to normal. :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard In general, that's okay. But that's why people can reply to their suspension message, or why moderators often warn/chat with people before suspending them, or why there's contact us. Like you said, public chat rooms are not the place for that.

(Sorry for the late reply, I'm at work now)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell true. If you want to keep discussing it, there are two Dens now for this. ;)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Nah, your den is just as much a public room.

Shadow Wizard

(I didn't join Sonic's yet, watched from the side to not interfere.)

Tinkeringbell

Let's talk about... hmmm... breakfast?

Shadow Wizard

08:04

@Tinkeringbell but we won't interfere there. Or you mean you don't want to share your thoughts about it in public, in general? That's legit too. I guess. ;)

@Tinkeringbell I had granola this time! :D

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Hmmm? I'm not going to discuss someone's suspension in public. basta!. I dunno what you want to talk about then?

and myself

@Tinkeringbell just 2 slices of bread. with cheese!

Shadow Wizard

The one to the left ^ (with chocolate)

Tinkeringbell

I had a croissant and orange juice :)

and myself

@ShadowWizard looking at the silhouette uhh... wrong focus...

Shadow Wizard

08:07

@andmyself but what cheese? ;)

@Tinkeringbell yummy! Guess fresh from bakery?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Define 'fresh' :P

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself not my picture, just first Google result for what I ate. :) (גרנולה נסטלה if you're curious ;))

Tinkeringbell

But yeah, bought them at the bakery shop at the train station ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell yeah, buying from a bakery shop is as fresh as one can get. No? :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Sometimes. Freshest is homemade ;)

Shadow Wizard

08:11

There were delicious croissants in Rhodes though. Big diversity of shapes and tastes, we don't have those here, maybe only in few special bakeries I can't really visit often.

and myself

@ShadowWizard some convenient markets on here did sold expired bread...

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself eww... sorry to hear! I always check expire date, sometimes they do sell expired products by mistake, and always remove them right away when I tell them.

Though bread is usually popular enough to not survive of the shelves more than day or two. :)

@Tinkeringbell but also hardest to make... :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard True.

That's why I've only done that once or twice ;)

Shadow Wizard

Once or twice more than me then! :D

When you next bake fresh croissants give me a call and I'll drop by. ;)

Tinkeringbell

Might take another decade :P

and myself

08:18

SE-branded bread

Shree

cv-pls bug Off-Topic Procedure or function has too many arguments specified.' - hashim malik‎ - 2018-11-19 08:17:03Z

Tinkeringbell

@andmyself That'd probably be some kind of copyright infringement :P

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard without the mods in question it's mostly pointless

And I was looking at a broader picture and intent

If it's an SU suspension and good points were made I would still lean towards pointing a user at the right places to get help

Shadow Wizard

(Not SE, but it's doable! ;))

Tinkeringbell

Ugh... that looks like it'll taste burnt :P

Shree

08:37

cv-pls bug Off-Topic <a href=“#” /> crashing with ui-router - Patrick Biyaga‎ - 2018-11-19 08:36:30Z

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell Not really but my kids don't like it anyway. :/

Magisch

I wonder if you can do an open source bounty thing. I use a SQL tool that's open source, and there's a feature I'd really like in it, a FR has been open for almost a year but no takers yet. Would it be out of line with open source culture to announce that I'd kick like 100$ the way of anyone who actually implemented that feature?

Tinkeringbell

I'd ask the person that manages the open source project, not us ;)

Or you know... just implement the FR, cause that's kinda how open source works, people implement the stuff they want into it :P

Shadow Wizard

@Blue arriving out of the blue! (sorry! Can't resist such wonderful puns!)

and myself

@Magisch I dunno... Fiverr?

Magisch

08:39

@Tinkeringbell Small issue. It's a complicated project that I do not understand whatsoever

Coded in a language I've never worked with

Shadow Wizard

6

Q: How to offer money to an open source project?

There's an open source project on GitHub that is very useful, but doesn't have a feature I want and which a fair number of other users have been clamoring for in the issues. There's already an advanced discussion of the issue, and I get the impression that good_enough is pretty feasible, it's j...

open-source github etiquette

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch I'd either do what that answer Shadow linked says (secretly outsource it), or ask the people that maintain the tool, I'm still most fond of that ;)

Shadow Wizard

Wait.. SQL... money... cough @rene cough

:D

(aka just hire the flower and be done with it.... ;))

whoa he's a fast flower! :D

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I don't think SQL tools are programmed using SQL :P

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell he's also a programmer... he wrote a bot! :D

A bot that can pee, no less. So, writing SQL tools must be piece of cake. ;)

Magisch

08:47

The project is written in delphi

rene

@Magisch ask @πάνταῥεῖ ...

Shadow Wizard

I worked few years with Delphi 3. Never upgraded. o_O

rene

I worked with Delphi when it was still called that

Shadow Wizard

Huh? It's not called that anymore?

rene

@ShadowWizard I meant, it didn't have a version number yet ... aka V1

Magisch

08:50

> Delphi XE5 is required for building HeidiSQL. Older Delphi versions will most likely fail; newer Delphi versions may work or fail. Unfortunately, Lazarus or one of the other free compilers cannot currently compile HeidiSQL.

Shadow Wizard

@rene oh. lol. You win! :D

Magisch

There goes my hope of just half-assing a fix for myself

rene

delv-pls 20K calculate meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318518/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Glorfindel @Bart

@Magisch your best bet is @πάνταῥεῖ and maybe if it is fun enough he can ask support from dalija

they should be able to at least tell you if it is doable

before you spend money

Oh, and maybe Ron

Shadow Wizard

Ron is a very generic name.

rene

Hey, I linked to their profile ...

delv-pls 20K a href meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318521/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @Glorfindel

Shadow Wizard

09:04

@rene I know! Otherwise it would be impossible to tell which Ron... :D

rene

delv-pls 20K wordpress meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318514/wordpress-plugin /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @Glorfindel

Shadow Wizard

@rene KABOOOM

Shree

cv-pls discussion Off-Topic Function receive array and return two dimension array - May Sohatchevzzki‎ - 2018-11-19 09:06:08Z

cv-pls discussion Off-Topic GPS device data parsing - Shaik Basha‎ - 2018-11-19 08:59:58Z

Tinkeringbell

09:19

Yay! I found another flaw in my co-worker... He chews with his mouth open :/

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Weight bearing glass furniture by marie52 on diy.SE

rene

@Tinkeringbell can you debug it?

Tinkeringbell

@rene I was thinking of just using ductape

rene

Viable Lifehack ...

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell like this? :D

watching @Tink as she runs away in terror

:P

Andras Deak

09:24

I keep getting randomly pinged by a user chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/7376388#7376388. How rude.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Oh, the AGT contestant

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog yup. Google search or personal knowledge? :)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard I watched the show

Shadow Wizard

Nice!

Andras Deak

@Tinkeringbell ew

Shadow Wizard

09:26

@AndrasDeak ban him! Flag him! Kick him!

Shree

cv-pls support off-topic Flow to build model using sklearn doesn't work on node-red - HungHP‎ - 2018-11-19 09:24:14Z

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

cv-pls duplicate, both targets please: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318524/… (@rene @Shadow)

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell Didn't you say you were only on that project for another month=?

Shadow Wizard

End of 2018 ^

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title (195): Best Chatbot Development Company in India by webtunixsolution on datascience.SE

Shree

09:38

cv-pls discussion Off-Topic Show NEST Camera video in Android Application WebView - user8874030‎ - 2018-11-19 09:37:47Z

rene

@Magisch we're going to make her a countdown counter ...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

There seems to be yet another influx of off-topic questions on MSE. What happened this time?

Shadow Wizard

Probably whatever Shog did has expired/overwritten by other code build.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (68): Rooting Gionee P5W ✏️ by Sally Denton on android.SE

Tinkeringbell

10:07

@rene Yeah, but make one that skips weekends? :P

23 days after this one ;)

Shadow Wizard

Tricky!

Tinkeringbell

(I'm off on Wednesday, does that information help? :P)

rene

ditches all code and start over again

Shadow Wizard

oops lol wrong room. It's Show Off time in Den. :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Linked punctuation in answer (56): Do I need Google, Google+ and Google play? Using so much storgae! by Markus23 on android.SE

Tinkeringbell

10:19

@rene :( I hope all code doesn't necessarily mean 'a lot of code'?

rene

meh

It is copy-paste anyway

I carefully have to copy around all these license texts. I don't want my code to become bloatware ...

Tinkeringbell

Ugh. copy paste licenses.

Shadow Wizard

10:35

buying pasta

Tinkeringbell

Nope, today is potatoes day. Not pasta :P

Shadow Wizard

Both starts with a "p" so who cares? ;)

rene

It is p-day

Journeyman Geek

its harder to slap on some tomato sauce on one and call it done.

OR IS IT?

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek French fries with bolognese sauce?

Journeyman Geek

10:39

@Fabby ._.

that's an ununual idea

Fabby

(Don't get me started on creative cooking! ;-) )

Journeyman Geek

(also, someone managed to ruin something by adding garlic today at lunch...)

I'm shicked since that should be impossible

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek I can't think of anything that can be ruined by garlic, unless it was a dessert...

Journeyman Geek

@Devealte was chickpeas

it had lots of garlic

tasted... wrong

and I love garlic

Fabby

Ah! too much garlic! Yeah, now I understand!

Journeyman Geek

10:42

@Fabby there's no such thing

and myself

Garlic fries? French garlic?

Journeyman Geek

I've added up to half a head on a single serving of pasta

and it was glorious

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek You'll love my garlic bread then!

Journeyman Geek

My mom was a little confused when she got back

Fabby

(ingredients: garlic, white wine, pepper, nutmeg, bread)

Journeyman Geek

10:43

ahh, alas, I can't use one of those things.

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek :D :D :D

@JourneymanGeek I have a fatwah that if you boil out all the alcohol, it's halal.

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby eh, the problem isn't just with the booze

and I'm not muslim

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek Ah... Gluten-intolerant?

Journeyman Geek

Well 3-4 reasons

people of my hindu caste don't drink by right

a lot of wine is filtered with islinglass...

I actually am super observant about food

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek What does that mean?

"drink by right"?

Journeyman Geek

10:46

@Fabby we culturally shouldn't drink

I know a lot do

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek It's not drinking when it doesn't contain any alcohol...

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby its a line we don't consider valid ;p

Andras Deak

ah, islinglass -> fish -> meat?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Tinkeringbell

We actually don't use much garlic at all... but I do like the taste ;)

Fabby

10:47

Isinglass because of animal origin?

Andras Deak

took me a while to piece it together

Journeyman Geek

funny thing is a lot of it is just "its just not how its done"

Fabby

@AndrasDeak Yeah, me too.

Andras Deak

that's probably just a technical issue, it should be quite easy to find vegan wine these days

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak plausibly

I know guiness went vegan at some point

Its just not something we do

Andras Deak

10:49

Yeah, hence "technical issue". Doesn't fix the cultural stuff

Journeyman Geek

and we don't have the "its made of honey"loophole

the rule is vaguely against getting intoxicated

Tinkeringbell

Ah, that's a nice and vague rule ;)

Andras Deak

most such rules are

vegan alcohol-free wine it is ;)

Journeyman Geek

so... grape juice?

Andras Deak

hehe, I guess

much better than wine if you ask me

Journeyman Geek

10:51

I guess its more about the tartness tho

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek So coming back to what I said before: If you boil all the alcohol out of it, it's safe and you'll damn well eat my garlic bread!

:D :D :D

;-) ;-) ;-)

Magisch

garlic bread spans across generations

everyone likes it, everyone loves it, it's garlic bread

Andras Deak

uuuuh nope

I like garlic in moderate amounts. I even like buttered toast with raw garlic smeared all over it. But garlic baked into the bread? Nope :P

The wife bought some garlic rolls once. They were wrapped in two plastic bags and still they could've been sniffed out the day before. The smell alone almost made me want to hurl

Bart

Holy flag backlog Batman

What's going on there?

Andras Deak

where's "there"?

Bart

11:02

Apparently there were 6 chat flags waiting for me, some on content that had been moved to the Trashcan such as chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/7374747#7374747

Andras Deak

ah

flags are really long-lived on chat.MSE it seems

Bart

Yeah, from Saturday I see

Shadow Wizard

11:20

@AndrasDeak yeah they even keep showing the counter when the messages are deleted. Fun! :D

On ordinary chat mods just remove the flags, I assume. Here there are no mods, so nobody have time to do this boring task. ;)

Andras Deak

nah, I'm sure it's automatic

at least on chat.SO

Shadow Wizard

@Bart 5 now, all in trash.

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak there's a lot less people to handle them

Andras Deak

I understand that, but I've seen flags disappear in the instant the messages were self-deleted

Journeyman Geek

There's few 10ks

Shadow Wizard

11:22

@AndrasDeak oh, it's a bug.

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Q: There are no chat flags to display but the number is shown

When a message is flagged as spam/offensive, network wide 10k users are shown a number of pending chat flags. As shown in the above image, it is shown that there are 15 messages waiting for review. At the same time, there are no flags to display. If we hover on 15, it says "flagged as spa...

bug status-completed chat notifications chat-flags

Andras Deak

Flags sticking around when there's nobody to handle is understandable. Flags sticking around on deleted messages is not.

Shadow Wizard

It was not fixed.

Andras Deak

@ShadowWizard oh, that one.

Also 8 on chat.SO. — Andras Deak Oct 7 at 21:25

and myself

11:35

My breakfast is chat flag.

Shadow Wizard

But it's blue

Andras Deak

da ba dee da ba daaa

Shadow Wizard

lol

Magisch

12:44

Lurking g3rv4 is lurking

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-latin title (88): Wordplay: I O _________ O A! by Rheticus on puzzling.SE

Derpy

Yay. Green is insane in Pkmn Let's Go. Thanks Gamefreak...

and myself

@SmokeDetector might be the next HNQ...

Magisch

I've heard only good things so far about pokemon lets go

maybe time to buy a switch now

Shadow Wizard

Is it the one where you go around for real and shoot virtual creatures?

(i.e. sort of AR)

and myself

12:56

Pokemon Let's Go collaborates with Pokemon Go

Shadow Wizard

It had great buzz but think it calmed down... didn't it?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard That's Pokemon Go, the cellphone game. They now made a game for Nintendo Switch, that's a remake of Pokemon Yellow with a few elements of Pokemon Go, and a very simplified gameplay.

It's a bit more gameplay than Pokemon Go, a bit less than a 'classic' pokemon game.

@Magisch I've been thinking the same lately.

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