There must be an English rhyme-word website ... and if not: it was my idea ....

@Tinkeringbell other person's flaws ... so right after December 5th, winter depression could start?

winter depression started as soon as you had to start thinking about what you'd craft as a surprise that year.

@rene doesn't sound convincing enough :/

Anyway, while I wait for my pictures to come out from the photo lab...

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@rene tea

Or "whiskey"

This will become a nightmare

But I've done one. You're next @Tinkeringbell .... ;)

Shog is drunk anyway

@rene Not fair! I'll come up with something, someday :P

We can lure @Bart to write one as well ...

Are we sticking with a six line minimum? or maximum? :P

@andmyself thanks for the link. It worked ;)

@Tinkeringbell I found this hard enough ...

between 6 and 8 should work

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog : who is on the senior management?

Gold!

@user1271772 Joel Spolsky, Tim Post, Jay Hanlon off the top of my head... there are a few others as well

So basically the CMs ?

oh, here we go, full list: stackoverflow.com/company/management

@rene Yours was more in the spirit of writing one for a specific person though. I'll happily grant you victory :)

@Tinkeringbell but I have to ask: Is that just Piet? No roetveeg, stroopwafel, groen, paars, zwart?

@rene Just Piet. I prefer roetveeg or zwart though ;) Never had much with stroopwafel or regenboog.

Piet it is

@user1271772 Joel, etc.

Oh it's X-mas seasons :3

@ArtOfCode, so Tim Post is not on there?

doesn't look like it

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog : So the letter is sent by snail mail? With a postage stamp?

@user1271772 Yes

@πάνταῥεῖ No,nononono.... it's only X-mas season after Sinterklaas.

For now, it's pepernoten, chocolate letters and coins, and tumtums :)

@Tinkeringbell Whatever that is :D

For us that is important

At the supermarkets here, they start X-mas season in late august :3

@tinker "pepernoten" is that Lebkuchen?

@πάνταῥεῖ pepernoten/kruidnoten, chocolate letter, chocolate coins and tumtum

@ArtOfCode pretty sure Tim and Abby are at the top of the CM chain. Juan is now in charge of the new team (which AFAIK consists of Cat at the moment). Nicolas is in charge of the international sites.

@Mithrandir Tim is director of community development, IIRC

@Tinkeringbell THX for the information :)

@πάνταῥεῖ You're welcome :)

which I thought would've been a management position, but apparently not :)

In earlier years, we had chocolate cigarettes as well. They're now no longer a responsible thing.

@Tinkeringbell Before Christianity was introduced to the lowlands, the biggest festival of the year was December 21st where Odin with his 2 black ravens would visit Mitgard and these two black helpers would look through the "Oelgat" (the chimney of a hut) into the living/kitchen/sleeping room (the only room) and see whether everything was fine with his people.

@Tinkeringbell Bad example for the kids of course.

@πάνταῥεῖ Yep. They still sell them, but the packaging no longer looks like those boxes cigarettes come in ;) And they're now just called 'chocolate sticks'

Knowing that Odin looks like this does that ring a bell??? CC @rene

Just a few more years and chocolate will be deemed too bad for kids as well, and Sinterklaas will be celebrated with carrots only.

@Tinkeringbell Starred!

@Fabby Meh. Here I am trying to cheer this room up a little and every negative remark I make gets starred!

@Tinkeringbell It's a funny remark: instead of the carrot going to the horse, the carrot goes to the kids!

@Fabby no

(Or at least: that's how we used to do it)

@Fabby I'm pretty sure the carrot went back into the refrigerator and was used for snert the next day :P

Sinterklaas is just a repurpose of a heathen Norse festival by the Catholic Church is what I'm trying to say.

That is probably true, yes

On December 21st (longest night), a pine tree with dried apples got burnt as an offer to Odin.

(another bell)

and that's why you can only put up your Christmas tree after Sinterklaas and take it down after Jan 6...

The Orthodox Church XMAS celebration is on Jan 7...

All these are heathen rituals incorporated into Catholicism (and Protestantism as they kept some of those rituals.)

@Tinkeringbell Anyway, Nagerzoenen are next to be Verboten, before Piet.

:D ;-)

@Fabby I think they already are... As in, no packaging calls them that anymore ;)

Do you know what they're called in Flemish?

Yes, and you might wanna get that outta here ;)

Google translate is notoriously bad with Flemish (deleted anyway)

Windows 98 in't West-Vlaams

Huh, I was listening to Canyon.mid at around the same time you posted that

:D

The Windows 10 logo looks a lot like the Windows 1.0 logo

(or how we've gone from flat to 3D buttons back to flat because it's cheaper to make flat buttons.) I blame Apple for that!

@Fabby Windows 8 logo, to be more accurate (that has a lighter tone)

I've actually used all versions of Windows. (although i have to say: I only used Windows 1.0 for about an hour)

(and then the novelty wore off of being able to run clock on the DOS prompt and in the windowing environment)

@Fabby Other than a dead CMOS battery and a bad optical drive, my old Windows 98 desktop works flawlessly

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog That's 3D era!

I remember 1.0 2.1, 2.2.

3D came in 3.0 (or as it 3.1?)

around 3.

Until Windows 95 rolled around, we didn't call them "MS-DOS computers", we called them "IBM compatibles". Unless you had an IBM, in which case you just had an "IBM".

(yeah, I'm an old fart)

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog :D Un,less you had a Wang!

;-)

that was called an "MS-DOS-compatible computer"

that was what? 1986?

that era for sure

Too bad Olivetti went out of business...

Those were great and good-looking PCs...

@Fabby We should found a club :3

@Fabby They never made it to the U.S. market

@πάνταῥεῖ <3

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog They did: The AT&T computer!

@Fabby The name never made it.

(it was just a rebranded Olivetti)

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Yup...

In Turbo PASCAL you had to use the AT&T library to get Olivetti to show high-res CGA.

(High-res at the time was 640*400)

@Fabby More like 320x200

Lemme double-check that

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that was all the others!

Well, 640x200 if you're willing to sacrifice color

Olivetti went higher.

The M24/6300 had an unusual enhanced 32 KiB CGA-compatible video card which, in addition to standard 200-line CGA graphics modes (automatically line doubled, transparent to software, with text modes also using 400 scanlines with higher quality 8x16 pixel fonts, or even 16x16 in 40-column mode with an expansion ROM), also supported an additional 640x400 pixel graphics mode, as well

Source

AFK BRB

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog oh hey Keen

@JohnDvorak Free for only 150$

Bonus points if they also upgrade your charger port to a newer model

How was the author's name not stripped here?

@Fabby Out of curiosity, do you remember your experience using film cameras?

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog 8mm and VHS video and then compact VHS.

No Sony stuff.

Why?

@Fabby For still pictures.

@Fabby I used a Digital8 camera until 2009

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Ah... Yes, of course: I still have boxes of pics on paper I still need to scan in.

lemme see when my digital history starts.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog 2004 a floppy-disk based camera

@Fabby Ever used black-and-white film?

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Yes... However we're going into NSFW territory...

@Fabby What do you mean?

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I used B&W to take nude pics of my GF?

(In the pile to be scanned)

B&W was easier to make them tasteful.

Interesting point. Shooting on film and developing it in your own darkroom is a great way to avoid leaks.

me in 2005

And that's easier with black-and-white film.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Uhuh... Although I developed them in someone else's dark room and he got to see them all as payment but never received any copies...

(Hey, I was 23 and poor!)

Hah! I just found some SFW ones!

(I ran out of colour fim in Denmark!!!)

@Fabby What DPI does your scanner use?

For these?

I don't remember: this was 2001

the little mermaid

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I would say from the quality: 200DPI? 250?

Not 300

me in 2001

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Why the questions?

@Fabby I'm a curious hedgehog

So: yes, I did... I should re-scan those.

Anyway, I discovered my film camera. I've made a massive purchase of rolls and shot five now

:D

Seven more to go

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I threw mine away when I moved 3500 Km.

@Fabby What film is that? Kodak Tri-X?

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog No, a brand that doesn't exist any more: you got development of the film for free when you bought it.

@Fabby Kodak did that with their Kodachrome film initially, but they were sued and forced to discontinue that

:O

Well, I'm probably not from the same continent as you...

Kodak was good, Fuji was good, but there were a lot of good local brands too.

I shot Ilford film

Yup, B&W Ilford I used too.

The Denmark ones were probably that era.

Thankfully here in Austin, Texas, there's a local photography store that sells and develops black-and-white film. I got my rolls from there and will be developing them there.

Austin? The blue patch in a red state?

@Fabby Yes

;-)

I live in Germany nowadays, but was born in Belgium and threw away the film camera when I moved to Moscow for work.

(Not the Idaho one ;-) :P)

I made a trip to San Diego and shot three rolls of Ilford HP5, then here I shot one roll of Kodak Tri-X and one roll of Kodak Ultramax 400.

(sorry, turned on keyboard backlight now)

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog How much are these nowadays? (the film only)

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog So you're in your 40s at least?

@Fabby No, I'm 20.

:O Wow! and you use real film!

Nowadays, digital photography surpassed analogue photography.

@Fabby Around $6 per roll of B&W, and $10 for a pack of three color rolls.

until 8 or so years ago, film was still better

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Cool. And the development?

OK, Hasselblad is still better than digital, but they're horribly expensive!

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog So you dunno yet...

will be

@Fabby I've already sent a few in.

So why did you use film then?

(not out of nostalgia)

@Fabby True, but the cost of a 25+ MP full-frame digital SLR is astronomical. Film is a very cheap way to take high-quality pictures.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog That's for videos.

for still, you don't need full frame rate.

waffles

you can get a good compact for less than a film camera

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog :-) I know...

@Fabby The above, and because one of the retro-tech YouTubers I subscribe to made a video about it

@Fabby Refers to the size of the image sensor. Most budget digital SLR cameras use an APS-C size sensor that's only 24 mm wide, which limits quality and low-light ability. A full-frame DSLR uses a full-size 35 mm-wide sensor.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Ah... yes, expensive

but I like something I can put in my pocket, so compact.

(ok: hang on my belt)

But only if I go on holiday.

in normal life, I just use my phone.

for simple things: phone

Special things like musea or travel: compact camera.

@Fabby Even a compact film camera can produce high-quality images. My (recent) digital point-and-shoot camera can only do 8 MP.

My printer has a 1200 DPI scanner which means a 4x6 print results in a 34 MP image. It's cheap because it's subsidized by ink cartridges.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Yeah, true!

If you take a low enough ASA and if you visit sunny sites it's true!

;-)

Night pics? Easier with an SLR.

I'm thinking of getting some Kodak T-Max 3200 ISO and doing some aviation photography

I need to have that converted to ASA...

Anyway, I'll post some images once they come back

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog only the SFW ones!

:D ;-)

@Fabby I haven't shot any NSFW ones, except maybe a few naked animals

:D :D :D

Try the B&W on your BF/GF...

@Fabby The same.

(and hats / shawls / ...)

@Fabby I'm ace, but thanks for the idea.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog The lower the light sensitivity, the smaller the grain, so the sharper the pic.

3200 is going to be grainy once scanned.

If you're shooting for high-res, take a low ASA and a lot of light!

@Fabby Well, the film inside is actually 800, but it's intended to be push-processed to 3200.

@Fabby Planes fly fast!

depends on the plane.

The films I've purchased so far are all 400.

little piper or Cessna, not too fast.

glider: even slower, but great for areal photography.

@Fabby I like shooting large jets. For example, BA flies a 747 to AUS

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Good. Try 200 as well.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Ah!

i was under the assumption: taking pictures FROM a plane, not OF a plane...

(you lot in the US all have planes instead of cars, right?)

;-) :D ;-)

OK, I need to go grab a bite to eat and then watch a movie and then sleep.

@Fabby Right, I'm gonna go too. Good night!

Good to know there still are real photographers out there!

Don't think like a sheep nor a wolf: think like a sheperd!

>:-)

morning...