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2:00 PM
e.g. in Ni No Kuni 2, I'm not planning to complete the 10th maze. This is just insane, and after giving up on it I read spoilers about it to make sure I don't lose anything really valuable like citizens.
Looks like it's just giving two extra researches, and of course tons of powerful items, but I'm already good with what I have.
@Magisch heh, I think we are having disagreements on the nuances of the language ;)
heh, another bounty bites the dust...
@JourneymanGeek maybe... "consequence" in my language is usually related to the negative effect/result...
oh oh oh now this remember me something I wanted to share.
*reminds ^
2:03 PM
I remember you
@ShadowWizard It was I who wrote that.
2:05 PM
that said, your nitpick only gives me more motivation
Glad to know! :D
Just so that everyone who played Zelda Breath of the Wild may share my cursed realization.
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eww ugly spam
sd k
The fairy in the Fairy Fountain claims that she needs Rupee to restore her powers, right?
That basically makes Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland canon.
2:10 PM
I'll take your word on it, didn't play that game.
man the time-limit for questions is not cool
Why don't they check if the one posting the question is a robot?
@Derpy I have altered the language. Pray I do not alter it more.
And if he posts a lot of question in a row - there are still people checking questions and so on. If he posts 100 questions in a minute - well, that's obivously spam, then one should look what's wrong there and ban the user for around 1 week or so. That's much better
@watchme the questions rate limit is not there to stop spammers, it's there to stop low quality flood.
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2:17 PM
4 messages moved from Shadow's Den
hehe messages look weird after being moved.
Is it still working?
!!/welcome watchme
@ShadowWizard Welcome to Tavern on the Meta @watchme! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
@SmokeDetector hello
I heard here are people with excellent opinions and ideas
But if it's there to stop low quality flood, when then do people with high rep go through that 40-minute-burden?
@watchme they don't... 40 minutes limit is even for Jon Skeet as far as I can tell.
The base assumption is that nobody really needs to ask so many questions in such a short time span, and if they do, they have bigger problems.
sometimes I gathered many questions together as I am not always on stackexchange (many of you won't therefore understand me - just kidding), and when I am on stackexchange I want to post these question... :P
2:28 PM
@watchme so that's a mistake... you should ask one at a time, when you need it. :)
@watchme there are! Really! looking around
throwing a pebble on @Journeyman to check if he's awake
@JourneymanGeek status: does not compute
@ShadowWizard about to go to bed
what's up?
@watchme want more opinions about reason for questions rate limit. Think that in general.
2:30 PM
(as in, not a rant. I hope. :))
I thought the rate limiting is for new users + rep based
so if you got rep on a specific site you're not affected
@JourneymanGeek nope, I'm pretty sure 40 minutes rate limit is for everyone. Never tested though.
@watchme why you ask? What's the message you get when trying to post?
Your SO account appears to be in good standing.
2:32 PM
"You can only post once every 40 minutes."
Q: The Complete Rate-Limiting Guide

Lance RobertsI noticed that I can only perform certain actions such as commenting a finite number of times in a given period of time. Obviously, rate limiting is in place to prevent accidental misuse or intentional abuse of certain features. Where else is rate limiting applied on Stack Exchange sites, and wh...

So I think it's the base limit..
> Users with < 125 rep, 40 minutes since their last question anywhere on the network (This applies to the user's IP address, not their account. If the user shares that IP with other users, they can be limited by the other user asking a question anywhere on the network.)
Its 90 minutes on SO
now lets say I went to, i donno magento.se and asked 2 questions back to back I'd still get rate limited
oh okay... I have many account < 125 rep
@watchme the rate limit would not apply on those sites
A: "You can only post once every 40 minutes" on my first post

Journeyman GeekBit of guesswork here Users with < 125 rep, 40 minutes since their last question anywhere on the network (This applies to the user's IP address, not their account. If the user shares that IP with other users, they can be limited by the other user asking a question anywhere on the networ...

2:34 PM
@watchme ohh thought you meant to ask about SO
(ya, its closed as a dupe of something else but meeeeeh)
but say If I ask a question on a site where I have more than 125, I can't post something on another site for 40 minues if I have less than that there
But if more than 125 on both sites.... no rate limit?
That's cool.
I guess not
Thanks @watchme, I learned some new things thanks to you. :P
@ShadowWizard You're welcome
2:37 PM
@ShadowWizard I did a quick bit of reseach/guesswork too
And remember... if you need some good opinion/advice, just throw a pebble on @Journeyman. ;)
Just not when he's sleeping, otherwise you'd face his wrath. :D
@JourneymanGeek Thank you
@ShadowWizard or be ignored ;p
2:39 PM
Now go to sleep, hopefully there won't be much more drama until you wake up... @Journeyman ;)
I turn off my PC and my phone after all
did someone call?
oh, good... some complain pings wake them up!
@AndrasDeak not me...
@ShadowWizard well, hopefully no
well somebody said "drama" :P
2:40 PM
there's a running joke that things usually go wrong in RA when I sleep
root access
@ShadowWizard Not pings... Journeymans loud barking! :P
@AndrasDeak lol you got a chat trigger for that word? :D
SU's main chatroom
2:41 PM
ahh, I should not have known that
@ShadowWizard no ;)
@JourneymanGeek same as "phone will always ring when you leave it on your desk while going to toilets". :D
FR: change MSE's chat sound to ash barking for april fool's day.
@ShadowWizard also, we didn't really have the sort of structure we have now
actually, doesn't chat.MSE make a star trek doorbell sound when you ping?
2:43 PM
@Tinkeringbell you don't want to hear me sneeze then... wife keep scolding me when I'm sneezing during night when kids are asleep. lol
@AndrasDeak let me see (hear)
and for some odd reason I seem to be a calming influence/really good at recognising some folks online
oh wow it really does
Same reason how I figured that user on meta was MM :)
@ShadowWizard what fixed it is what is happening here now
@ShadowWizard Mom complains about me coughing in my sleep... Apparently I'm both loud enough to wake her up and soft enough to not be troubled by it myself...
2:44 PM
@JourneymanGeek :)
We got a few ROs, and started getting them used to the idea that we trust them to use that power
@Tinkeringbell reflux?
or just common cold?
@AndrasDeak Just a cold ;)
@Tinkeringbell yeah... cough during sleep is awful, it can't be helped and it's always loud and waking everyone up. :(
I couldn't deduce the time scale :P
2:44 PM
essentially "We've got your back,and we can review once it happened"
@ShadowWizard Yeah but like... Apparently I've been coughing for a week now and it hasn't disturbed my sleep, just moms.
@Tinkeringbell what about your brothers? Not troubled by your cough?
@ShadowWizard They sleep in the attic. Not likely to hear it :)
@Tinkeringbell same with my daughter, she has periods of cough during sleep, I someties go to bring her water just to find her in deep, untroubled, sleep. :/
Personally I don't think I cough during sleep, just late at night sometimes. Luckily, water usually helps. :)
so much meta bounty action
2:47 PM
Q: Use Star-Trekky noise for chat notifications instead of the "fart" on chat.stackexchange.com

Nick TI like the Star-Trek-esque beedeebeeboop as a chat notification on http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/ far more so than the fart/raspberry noise that http://chat.stackexchange.com/ uses. It is much more audible over my music and occasional gastric distress. Can StackExchange just rip off MSO (or...

@Tinkeringbell good for them! :D
> wow, found a typo in one of Nicol posts
@ShadowWizard That whole sentence a typo is.
oh wait.. old posts...
Not worth to bump just for that, IMO.
putting pen down
@PaulWhite you mean reputation thrown into the void, with no hope to affect anything.
pretty much
Quite like ranting here about stuff. Just to let off some steam. :D
@ShadowWizard TIL it used to be a fart
I only frequent chat.SO where it just goes ding
2:54 PM
I always hear it as a DOINK
But fart can have tons of different sounds, there's no specific sound for it. ;)
as long as it's not "ffffffffffft...crap"
nevermind ;)
2:57 PM
oh no, we can all be banned now!
Q: Did I really just get auto-booted from chat for an hour for 'fart'?

Erik  ReppenI will confess, We'd noticed a bunch of flags with no complaints from anybody so I thought I'd test and see if something automated was happening with a series of progressively more offensive words. Fart, boob and one big-boy word. Fart was the lowest offender on the list. I deleted the one 4-lett...

@ShadowWizard He's talking about sharts :P
running away in panic
well if Tim can feature a post with farting in its title...
Tim can get away with anything. We haven't reached that status yet.
@Tinkeringbell lol... hope you don't say from experience... sounds like one experience I prefer to avoid. :P
2:58 PM
@ShadowWizard Heh... don't be afraid:
> In the full context I would never have validated those flags. But I didn't have anything like that, so I did. Realistically, it would only have taken one user to make those flags, and everybody else would have simply agreed with them.
@Bart you did! :D
All new mods are now being trained on 'look for the context you !@#$!'
@FélixGagnon-Grenier only bad potentially unprofessional inside jokes are bad. Some potentially unprofessional inside jokes are not bad, apparently. — Andras Deak Oct 10 at 21:10
3:00 PM
Gotta run, my driver wants to go
Run well!
installing a better driver on @Tinker's computer
(one that doesn't want to go away)
@ShadowWizard Turns out this one is telling me to hurry up and then makes me wait
For every minute waiting, you should be compensated €1.00...
@Tinkeringbell this?
Driver: Hurry up, I'm under your house in less than a minute!
Me: Sure, on my way!
[rushing downstairs]
[10 minutes later...]
Me: Where are you?
Driver: Almost there! Less than a minute and I'm under your house!
Me: ...
Is it even a taxi driver? Or the coworker? @Tink
3:12 PM
@ShadowWizard That looks... creepier than it should be :/
@Somewhat lol just wrote it down based on vague memory. Why creepy though? Just irritating.
Maybe driver should say "I arrive in 6-8 minutes". :D
"Under your house"... and I imagined the house has a basement... and the driver wielding a shovel steering wheel giant S...
No no no, no more giant S-es. Doubleplus ungood.
@Somewhat rofl.... :D
@AndrasDeak OMG.... I just now realized what was so bad with the giant S.... feeling so stupid...
blame me for watching Halloween (2018)
3:16 PM
I wonder if Jeff paid it any attention when originally saying it... don't think so...
it's only inappropriate because it's an inside joke referring to an unperson
@AndrasDeak no no no... it's more than a joke. It's combined with all the Welcome stuff, the combo "giant S" has offensive meaning.
And I just now realized. :/
well, but not because it reads as "giant ass". But because it goes like "I'll kill you brutally if you raise an issue"
@AndrasDeak nah, the first is more likely to get people offended these days.
I'd rather not try to guess what people manage to find offensive these days
3:19 PM
hehe that's good. :D
@AndrasDeak I find that very offensive, mister
Did you just assume my honorific?
No, I know I got it wrong :P
even worse :P
3:21 PM
anyways I was just roaming around. Off I go
take care :)
Care you take.
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3:40 PM
@SmokeDetector poof
Just found a wikipedia article referencing a Stack Overflow comment as a source
I love it.
in before citogenesis
4:25 PM
@ShadowWizard It's the co-worker ;)
4:50 PM
Tim's HNQ meta hit the magic -100
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@AndrasDeak yesterday was rough totalling in -60 some score
I wonder why yesterday in particular
5:19 PM
@Magisch it was Monday
people arrived at work
@Mithrandir Saw the edit and message most likely too ;)
5:34 PM
user image
^^^ New bean has arrived!
i must say, that's an impressive nose
It's so cute.
August Sebastian. ❤️❤️❤️
5:48 PM
@Catija congratulations
@Catija Just popping my head in here just to say congratulations and I am glad to hear you and new bean are in good health. :)
6:04 PM
He already looks a bit like his brother :D
@Catija congrats! Wait... Hope you don't work? You deserve some months of holiday to take care of the baby, right?
@AndrasDeak doubt it will break the overall record though. -250 or so, if I am not mistaken.
@SomethingBadHappened link?
@Tinkeringbell huh. So rude of him! ;-)
@Catija That is awesome, be proud! Keeping tradition I can't wait for the beschuit met muisjes ...
@ShadowWizard Meh... it's stuff like that which is why I really want to get back behind the steering wheel myself ;) Two more months to go, I guess :)
Stack has a great parental leave policy... fortunately it doesn't require that I leave entirely. I'll be around for social stuff rather than work.
@Tinkeringbell yup... Hope it won't happen often though. ("Driver" driving you nuts ;))
@Catija meaning everything you post here and on MSE for example won't be "official"?
6:19 PM
Well, I can't get rid of the diamond... at this point I'm not sure how things will look. But I won't be as in the loop.
@Catija I'm glad we finally hired someone else who is as bad at disconnecting as I am :P
@AdamLear ha ha. Considering neither of us are supposed to be here? :P
I'm supposed to be here. :)
I'll have similar problems, anyway. SE is more interesting than gaming.
And babies sleep a lot.
6:42 PM
I wonder if my chat message was deleted for disparaging remarks against SE or for calling that twitter user an idiot. Both? The uncertainty is like a warm blanket...
@canon Well if it was the latter you're likely to find out again soon?
Likely, yes... if that user (or any other) chooses to make divisive, gender-demonizing attacks against the network... without any apparent understanding of the network.
That tweet could have been, "What does romantic fidelity have to do with programming!?!?" Instead it focused on, "female treachery." Which, you know, was what the individual post happened to be about... because... context.
Oct 19 at 16:34, by Magisch
aight, lemme take this time to remind everyone that this is public record, and I'd really rather not a repeat of the last time we got too caustic about twitter users and called out for it. so consider what you say as if you still wanted to respect the person you're talking about should she choose to read it. Please.
still applies
@canon post... context... title... hnq... and an SO user that's perhaps so inexperienced with the system they use Twitter instead of meta. You see where that goes wrong? :P
@Magisch Respect is a two-way street. I afford everyone a base level of respect. She's now operating at a deficit.
6:50 PM
@Tinkeringbell or very experienced with SO. If you post anything about sexism on SO meta, you get downvoted into oblivion
ask yvette
@canon You're here. Here has a Code of Conduct. Here has 'assume good intentions'. Here has a whole different set of rules.
@canon right, but this chat and the network in general requires you to respect people
@Magisch I think I've seen those posts and they're exactly the kinds of post I wouldn't make myself either so... No comment?
@canon that reminded me of imgur.com/gallery/sZq4vdT
you should always "respect" someone as in "treat like a person" even when they're being jerks
hence my earlier suggestion to be the greater person
@Magisch Well, no; it doesn't. It requires that you conduct yourself in a respectful manner. Nobody can require that you respect someone. rabble-rabble-pedantry
6:54 PM
@canon ^^
@AndrasDeak I have no illusions of authority. I take umbrage with unfounded aspersions and personally find those who cast them idiotic at best and lazy/malicious at worst.
not directly applicable, just the shaky grounds when talking about respect
There's a difference between feeling something and saying that you feel it. The CoC asks that you don't act on your feelings, not that you can't have them. Calling someone an idiot is not OK.
yup, lie for the greater good :P
(just kidding, not being honest can be socially beneficial and underlies all our societies)
murmurs The greater good...
@Catija Can we just demand pistol duels then? Is that in accordance with the Be Nice policy?
7:06 PM
You sound sarcastic. I must warn you that sarcasm is against the CoC.
Well, I am against the CoC :P
@JohnDvorak You'd rather we'd use royal etiquette?
That would be a fun idea for the next Apr1
@JohnDvorak I'd rather not. Waaaay to many rules/much work XD
7:20 PM
> The last CoC was a booming success, so we're replacing it with something even more stringent, and we'll be enforcing it with diligence. As the new rules come into effect immediately, to ensure that someone doesn't break the rules accidentally, we've decided to pin the new rules to the sidebar in the place of now retired HNQ.
That would be a much better use of the sidebar.
@SomethingBadHappened The one on the left? Or on the right? :P
7:36 PM
Ooh, that's an even better idea
Y'all are turning me into a grumpy SE user real quick.
I was promised fun!
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
For now, I'm resisting. Being a parrot doesn't help though :P
I need better people to parrot.
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@Tinkeringbell you want fun? Join the C++ room and start asking C# questions...
7:51 PM
Tim left a new answer on MSE meta.stackexchange.com/questions/317011/…
@canon Ohhhh... my nefarious mind is already making that worse XD
i almost missed out on all the drama
had my wisdom teeth out, so i havent hardly been on se/so for like 2 weeks
@Dragonrage 2 weeks? What kind of horror dentist mangles you so bad you can't even talk online for 2 weeks!?
they were severely impacted and had to be drilled out. i couldve been online and talking, but i just didnt feel like it because my whole head hurt a lot
@Dragonrage IPS? Oh, your teeth... /rimshot
8:03 PM
@Dragonrage Ah nasty... I've only had one of those, the rest could luckily just be pulled. It did leave me sore for a day or two...
@canon Thanks. Appreciated. /s
@Tinkeringbell both my bottom wisdom teeth were impacted, took 2 hours to get them out. my top ones are fine to leave in. dentist told me to expect recovery to be 2-3 weeks
@Dragonrage :( Get well soon then!
And take care of those top ones, I had one almost cause an abces because it damaged the gums on the bottom. If you feel anything like a blister, go to the dentist again (End of unwanted but useful advice :P)
@Tinkeringbell oh, come on. If you can't laugh about your misfortune... well, you can't really do anything else about it in this context. ;)
8:06 PM
thanks. they are at least tolerable now, though they still hurt.
@canon I can laugh about it! But it's the difference between making a self-deprecating remark and being joked about, I guess? The first is funnier than the second.
they took x-rays of the top ones, and said they looked good, and didnt need to be taken out, but ill do regular checkups to make sure they stay fine
@Dragonrage I hate those dentist xrays... do they have you bite some plastic thing that never fits too?
fastest 4 flags ive used in my 3 years on SE network
@Tinkeringbell just commiserating with you. I rather enjoy IPS.
8:09 PM
@Tinkeringbell The thing that looks rounded but definitely has sharp corners and edges?
@Tinkeringbell yeah, and since the wisdom teeth are so far back, it almost makes me gag
@Undo That one! The one that leaves you with raw spots in your mouth :(
There is nothing fun about dental work. Maybe that's the point, they make it miserable so we brush and floss and thus avoid them?
@Ash When did you last floss?
@Ash Unless you lose the genetic lottery and no amount of brushing or flossing really helps
8:11 PM
Are you kidding? You were there!
@Tinkeringbell after lunch, I hope.
@AdamLear Yeah, my mom's like that. :(
@Tinkeringbell im flossing right now tbh
I'm gonna have to get my wisdom teeth pulled, maybe, probably. Dentist isn't sure it'll be necessary, so I'm holding on to the "maybe not" option
@Undo make sure they dont get infected
8:11 PM
@Dragonrage I never floss, I use tooth picks. Apparently its better because I have a bit more room between my teeth?
@Dragonrage I bleach them weekly, seems to kill all the bacteria
i have little floss sticks that have tooth picks on the other side
quite handy
i just hate when the floss gets stuck between my teeth
@Dragonrage Ugh... I've spent workdays where I ate a salad at lunch, and had this bit stuck between my teeth the entire day, and nothing to pick my teeth with
I hate anything that gets stuck between my teeth.
@Tinkeringbell This is why I keep a thing of floss in my purse!
8:20 PM
keep a small bag of them in your purse/bag/personal item carrying device
@Ash I now have too ;)
You know what's stupid?
i have some in my car and at my house.
I recently noticed one of my molars has a little bump on the inside. I can't stop feeling it and being distracted by it. Dentist says it's okay, it even has a fancy name I forgot.
@Tinkeringbell But once you notice a thing like that, you can't stop noticing it, even if you know it's fine
@Ash Exactly. And driving myself nuts. It's like thinking about purple elephants.
8:23 PM
for me, it usually goes away in a few weeks. like when i chipped my tooth, or had a cavity filled. it feels weird for awhile, then you get used to how it feels
I hope so... I'm more of a 'few days' person than 'a few weeks' though. :P
and it's already been a few weeks.
is it possible to grind down without hurting the tooth? if it keeps bothering you, it might be something the dentist can do
@Catija but when the baby sleep you also better sleep... no?
@Dragonrage would be worth asking, maybe?
@Ash Hmmm. Maybe on my next appointment. I'm definitely going to keep it in mind if I'm still bothered by it then ;)
8:29 PM
@canon no, only unicorn duels, i.e. unicorn races. ;)
grins Let me guess, that's a while away, @Tinkeringbell?
@Ash Hmm. Somewhere in January, I guess?
@KevinB toilets again?? :D
@ShadowWizard if she can... o_o
@AndrasDeak huh, much sooner than expected, he did say "tomorrow" in the comment. Well done!
@EKons you mean the other kid? Hopefully he's in kindergarten. :)
8:32 PM
I mean the new kid
@Dragonrage milkshake with lots of cream!
@ShadowWizard The correct Dutch word that can't be flagged is pancake.
Goes well with icecream too
Although if I had to pick an expletive for that, I'd go with jellyfish.
But pancake is something tasty I love to eat, can't use it for anything else.... :D
pancakes with nutella and syrup
8:38 PM
@Dragonrage at the same time?
@Ash yes
I usually do maple syrup or nutella, not both, so I wanna make sure I am not missing out on something awesome
8:38 PM
i have a sweet tooth. sue me
but...nutella and syrup? how do those go together?
idk. try it. maybe you will like it, maybe you wont
everyone has unique taste buds
not really a pancake person
I love pancakes, and I have both nutella and maple syrup, so I can totally try this.
8:40 PM
crepes > pancakes
savory or sweet?
@Dragonrage who doesn't like waffles... <3
not sure

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