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12:04 AM
in /dev/chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Nov 9 '15 at 12:35, by Braiam
> PHP can also be seen as the Justin Bieber of programming tools. Both prove conclusively that you don't have to be good to be popular.
 
I was torn between those two. They both express an equally intense love and passion for the art of hula dancing.
Their feverish, unfettered energy is almost too much to behold.
Their sensual grace knows no bounds.
@Telkitty Lol
 
@JasonC How many or Shog socks?
 
user202362
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Step 1: Pretend that didn't happen
6 messages moved to Chimney
Step 2: Run some programs
Step 3: Kick a puppy
Oh! Yeah we totally got this. I was kinda depressed about 185. Drum roll...
@Shog9 2193 unique users have passed through the Tavern during its lifetime.
@Telkitty It's probably safe to say that 21...80 of them came to whine about suspensions, lol.
 
12:20 AM
@JasonC noooooo
 
No, no, it's OK! The puppy was all alone, and sad!
Oh god. That was supposed to be a joke. But now I'm sad, lol.
And here comes the feelings of shame and regret.
Note to self: Do not make jokes during mentally fragile times. Brain cannot handle feelings while short-circuiting is in progress.
/me goes on chocolate and ice cream bender
Welp
backs away sloowwlllyy annnnnnddd.... Peace out, lol.
 
@JasonC ok; so, 1337 trolls and 856 others. Fair 'nuff.
Trivia: I once worked in a chocolate factory. Not having much money at the time, I subsisted primarily on chocolate for the duration. Withdrawal at the end of this time did indeed lead to mental fragility.
 
Withdrawal + lack of basically every nutrient but sugar, iron, and magnesium
(TIL the nutritional content of chocolate)
Also I've got science on the brain. My grief about my cat seems to be manifesting itself as this borderline insane obsession on finding an answer. Plus anxiety about my other cat. There's still the possibility that something contagious took him down. There's also been water quality issues here for a few months.
 
user202362
12:36 AM
 
user202362
where I was last weekend
 
That's a confusing combination of environmental features
Is that snow, wet grass, and fog?
 
user202362
took me half an hour to boil first pot of snow
 
user202362
yes, foggy, snowy and ... green grass
 
user202362
there was also a fire ban there, can you believe that?
 
user202362
12:38 AM
not that there were any trees to start a camp fire with
 
That is weird. But maybe they were more concerned about scarring than flammability
 
 
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2:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Chinese character in title, bad keyword with email in body, messaging number in body, messaging number in title, mostly non-Latin body: NYIT毕业证Q,微790042814/NYIT学历认证,美国纽约理工学院Diploma毕业证成绩单文凭,教育部认证New York Institute of Technology (NYIT) by zouyibolos01 on travel.SE
 
user315433
It's best not to figure out what a thing is for. As long as the goal is unknown, one can't fail in achieving it. (Cf: Documentation)
 
user315433
"I only know one truth: it's time for the Tavern to end."
 
user315433
I think Ep. VIII trailer has more quotable material than the entire Ep. VII...
 
user202362
2:21 AM
just because Jason is allergic to cat gifs for the time being, it does not mean tavern is going to end
 
lol
I mainly lived off ice milo when I was in the army
(Its like nesquick, but better)
 
user202362
2:40 AM
I brought fresh veges and fruit to multi-day bushwalking trips, that sure got people talking
 
 
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5:16 AM
My dog's probably getting most of his bottom front teeth pulled out today
 
 
1 hour later…
6:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: What ampère power supply must I use for my laptop charger? by sherry wu on superuser.com
 
7:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: What if beer (opened) was left in fridge for like... months by recap on alcohol.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Enable Word Plugin Through Proxy by Gaurav Singh on superuser.com
 
8:02 AM
lol. I just realised teams died, when answering a question that got closed as dupe anyway ;p
I was wondering what happened to it. Needs to poke his head out of QA and chat sometimes. Or into MSO ._.
 
8:14 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Download Manager for Linux by Movie Hd on unix.SE
 
8:25 AM
Now that's a friendly error message ^
 
lol
sounds typically google.
 
Google Drive
 
(if its MS, its either scary and unreadable or "Something broke")
 
@JourneymanGeek months ago, maybe year or even more, yeah...
 
@ShadowWizard yeah ;p
 
8:27 AM
It caused me to think twice before delving into other things like Documentation
 
I suppose until something comes up on the wider network, I don't really pay attention
 
Why spend time on something that might get closed any moment?
 
lol
glares at google
 
Google Wave?
 
lol
google reader.
 
8:28 AM
you lol a lot :D
 
I jumped to another one which also died. Then ran my own RSS feed reader (to this day)
I do.
 
Obviously the goal of the tavern is waffles!
 
But yeah, unless it comes to places outside SO, I probably am less likely to notice
 
@JourneymanGeek yup guess the only safe option
 
@JourneymanGeek I still kinda miss iGoogle :(
 
8:30 AM
Until your own server dies and you forget where the code is... :D
 
@Stijn on the other hand, I still use a lot of google stuff
@ShadowWizard ah, I backup my server.
 
@JourneymanGeek but you might forget where the code is...
 
@ShadowWizard funny that...
 
I had to search many times for years old projects, buried behind gigas of files
 
I lost my ssh keys for a few months...
then found 2 copies...
@ShadowWizard some services are unlikely to go suddenly.
Also, I'm not a dev
I'm hardware geek who knows his way around a linux box (a little), desktops (a bit more)...
So there's no real code.
If I need code, I git clone the shit out of it.
A longer term project would be to throw some flavour of config management on top of the next server build
 
9:25 AM
@Derpy probably won't be surprised ^
SQL Server eating all disk space
 
@ShadowWizard not "Windows Update Media Cache?"
 
@Derpy not using Windows Media, so no. :)
 
@ShadowWizard windows update. I seem to remember there is the random "media" word in there too for "reasons" only M$ knows, but I just meant the Microsoft Update Cache folder.
which usually grows exponentially to infect plague haunt .... waste most of the machine disk space
 
@Derpy ohhh.... hmm.... didn't scan C:\ yet
(as it's not a problem)
 
user202362
 
user202362
9:41 AM
 
The dog birdnapped @Infinite! GET HIM!
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@Derpy see the time stamp, it was before she joined SO
@Stijn you should label each person there ;)
@JourneymanGeek oh my, why? How old is he? (she?)
 
@Infinite
unpingable :(
 
@Telkitty how you kept them fresh? And why talking? Many people eat fresh vegetables... :)
@Elephant for loooooong time... she has long periods of... inactivity. :/
 
user202362
most people only bring dehydrated food on hikes because of weight
 
9:50 AM
@InfiniteRecursion boo :D
but here, just pinged her ;)
@Telkitty oh... but you're strong, so you can carry 30kg bag? ;-)
Hire @Elephant he's even stronger
 
user202362
my other stuff are light, like 1kg tent, 100g sleeping mat
 
oh, but that must have cost a fortune...
 
user202362
generally I choose light gears
 
And you also bring small amount of clothes? @Tel
 
user202362
well, if you can get a good 2-3 years out of your gears, it turns out to be not so bad
 
user202362
9:53 AM
@ShadowWizard I bring many changes
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Is it advisable to paint interior walls with a sprayer? by son jappont on diy.SE
 
user202362
but most of them are light
 
user202362
only 1 jacket usually
 
@Shog9 don't you have your own stats, pure and non scraped? ;)
 
Been a while opening CV queue on SO, and apparently I was CVing [success] tag long time ago?
search MSO for burnination request
 
9:56 AM
@Telkitty for me jeans are really heavy, when going on vacations... so I bring only two. The one on me, and one in the bag.
!!/alive
 
@ShadowWizard Yup
 
!!/status
 
@ShadowWizard Running since 09:55:07 UTC (1 minute)
 
user202362
cotton & wool can be light
 
user202362
I don't wear jeans
 
9:58 AM
@ShadowWizard I don't remember half of the names, and only know them in Dutch :p
 
10:13 AM
@Stijn lol... meant with Tavern folks.... :D
 
10:38 AM
@ShadowWizard 12. Had 7 rotten teeth removed
 
@JourneymanGeek whoa... so how will he eat now? :(
 
Soft food for a few days.
 
@JourneymanGeek and after few days? How can a dog eat without teeth?
 
What all will happen when question made anonymous from account (when asked to moderator) ?
Hello everyone
 
10:55 AM
@ShadowWizard he has most of em
 
@Fawad then question will become anonymous and removed from the account of its author, as if they never asked it. (no reputation events in their profile, no way to see they ever asked it.)
I doubt even moderators can see this, @JourneymanGeek can you see who asked a question that was unlinked from it's OP?
@JourneymanGeek oh. Still... poor dog...
 
@ShadowWizard 1) if someone upvote will I get reputation? 2)If I remove will upvote/down votes reputation removed from my account?
 
@Fawad 1) No 2) No unless this is an answer, then downvote costs 1 rep as usual regardless who posted it
 
@ShadowWizard if I remove questions which have negative votes then my question ban will be removed? (I have 2 question with -3 and 1or 2 with -1 and 0)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Why do some universities refuse to issue duplicate diplomas? by Aarsun Woods on academia.SE
 
11:07 AM
@Fawad you can't do that yourself. Only moderator can. And with thousands of people getting question banned, I doubt they will just follow the wishes of everyone. Maybe they will, but most likely they won't. People should pay for their mistakes.
So if your request is denied, please don't pester the moderators. It won't end well.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Convert image into mask by Abir Zabed on graphicdesign.SE
 
11:23 AM
So it will never going to show Jeff Atwood and shog9 fault?^
 
@ShadowWizard didn't showed me till now :( but thanks I will save image
 
@Fawad you can just spin again....and again.... and again....
 
@ShadowWizard doing it..
!!blame
 
@Fawad here is a new wheel, much better: jsfiddle.net/Ldvwp8uv/22/embedded/result
!!/blame
 
11:29 AM
@ShadowWizard It's Shadow Wizard's fault.
 
I know.
 
@ShadowWizard zelfkennis is het begin van alle wijsheid
 
@Stijn אין לי מושג מה אמרת אבל זה נראה מאוד יפה
 
@ShadowWizard they're words of wisdom :)
 
@ShadowWizard no
Assuming its properly dissociated
we have one early user with no account, and answers under her name.
 
11:36 AM
@Stijn :)
@JourneymanGeek heh, so a moderator can perform an action they can't undo? Or even see its result?
 
@ShadowWizard dissociation is CM level
 
@JourneymanGeek oh, didn't know that. So it makes chances even lower that such requests are fulfilled. Guess there are hundreds of flags on SO per day asking to disassociate questions...
People should use the "contact us" for that then, not flag.
 
yup
Even then
Don't ask questions you don't want seen
 
@JourneymanGeek exactly
 
12:01 PM
Don't want questions you don't ask seen
 
Sometimes true too
 
Don't questions want you ask don't seen
 
Don't don't want ask seen you questions
 
Want don't ask don't you seen questions
 
Questions want you seen don't don't ask
 
12:07 PM
Gravatar strikes again.... what a surprise
@Braiam you're that green-ish identicon
 
Please ditch Gravatar, it's so crappy that it's funny
Never seen a worse product/service/whatever.
 
It's amazing how terrible they manage to make such a simple service
 
Wonder what will make people to finally throw it away? Only when all images will be wiped out? Or show a NSFW pic?
(it's probably really easy to hack, considering the zero efforts they put into their product.)
@Bart thing is, it used to work, for years. Guess they changed owner, no?
 
@ShadowWizard What if . . . certain people here . . . actually . . . like their avatar being NSFW?
 
12:11 PM
@ShadowWizard loooong time ago, yes.
 
90% of the times, when a good website is bought by a large firm/website, it's either becoming crap, or shutting down.
If SE will be bought, as whole, by big company, I'm 1000% sure the first thing they'll do is shut down all meta sites. Big companies do NOT love feedback.
@M.A.R. hehe, if they want to get fired...... :D
 
But I like fire. It's warm
 
@ShadowWizard uh, no....
who the heck is that?
 
I'm seeing Brai as that mysterious glasses guy though
So it's not borked for me
 
@Braiam you
@M.A.R. that is @Bart
 
12:17 PM
 
@ShadowWizard No, I'm seeing Brai correctly
 
(no, it's not photoshopped)
 
I see, so Gravatar decided to strike back at me. waving fist
 
Sha you ranted about Gravatar so much, they're out to get you
 
12:17 PM
No SE for crappy non-dev Facebook questions?
 
I'd be hiding if I were you
 
@Braiam Yahoo.SE
 
Quora.SE
 
12:18 PM
@M.A.R. uh, yeah, hold on that
 
I dunno what Webapps is about.
So Webapps.
@ShadowWizard jinx
 
Web Applications Stack Exchange is for expert and advanced users of web applications.

If your question generally covers …

Using Gmail, Facebook, Twitter, Google, or any other website which behaves like an application
Bookmarklets
Features of browsers which are directly related to the use of a web application (Greasemonkey scripts for a web application, etc.)
… then you’re in the right place to ask your question!
 
Whoa whoa
It's not my question
Don't drag me into this
 
Drag don't into this me
 
12:20 PM
Don't this me into drag
 
Don't drug me into this
 
On a perhaps related note, I'm not gonna like The Boss Baby
 
Don't
 
Dreamworks seems to try and make a film out of poop jokes
And they get crappier any time
 
@M.A.R. some people like poop jokes :D
 
12:23 PM
@ShadowWizard I like them when they're actually funny
 
@M.A.R. bet @Jason knows tons of funny poop jokes
 
I like them when they're shit.
 
oh, and @Bart. Of course.
@Bart is one of few people who can turn poop into gold. I'm sure of it. :P
 
And people recognize that @ShadowWizard. They always tell me I'm full of crap.
 
waiting for @Bart to publish a book
 
12:28 PM
@ShadowWizard "5 crazy tricks to getting your message starred in a chat"?
2
 
Anyway, @M.A.R. in Israel we got reality TV show called "Baby Boom". And in Hebrew "Baby Boss" look exactly like "Baby Boom", it's "בייבי בוס" vs. "בייבי בום" so I thought the ads were for the TV show. lol
 
Grandpa Bart on his rocking chair, gather 'round me, beautiful grandchildren of mine, and I'll tell you 'bout the time I got 5 starred messages in a day!
 
Only 5?
 
500 Internal @Bart error
 
Chat is weird today. Keeps telling me to retry submitting messages.
 
12:32 PM
@Bart blame Gravatar ;)
 
Always
 
we should get Gravatar added to the wheel
 
We should get the wheel added to Gravatar
 
We should get added Gravatar to the wheel
 
teketet123
whoops
 
12:35 PM
We should add get to the gravatar wheel
Darn it @Stijn
 
switching to chat while having keepass fill in a password is a bad idea
 
Don't worry, the NSA already knew
 
@Stijn so.... delete?
 
@ShadowWizard it's part of a password of an account of an internal system that won't exist in 2 weeks
 
12:37 PM
it's also the only one I know by head, because I have to go to the sysadmin's desk and manually type in a new password every three months :p
 
hacking into @Stijn's internal system
2
 
Shadow Wizard makes a cool hacker handle
 
@Stijn I thought you're mixing telkitty with hichris123?
3
 
that's a great password!
 
tries to figure out if I revealed too many secrets or not
 
12:45 PM
Yes you did!
 
lol j/k
 
Could tell :P
And that emoticon was an absolute failure.
 
@Mithrandir still don't get it, the "3" is the number of flags users raised about you?
 
@ShadowWizard Yes.
 
12:47 PM
user image
3
he was being serious :o
 
@Mithrandir so it got nothing to do with your flag history, why you expect it to match? (I mean, your second screenshot is the standard flag history, of flags we raised)
 
@ShadowWizard What? Both of those are that were raised on my stuff.
 
@Stijn proud at self
:D
 
One is the general overview, the other is actually going and looking to see what those flags were.
 
@Mithrandir oh, the design is the same then, confusing. :)
 
12:49 PM
So if you raise a flag on, say, this, the little number would go up, and the details would show up in the other page.
 
oh, nice. The Sunset Park boss music from the GG version of Sonic Triple Trouble was already meant to be in Sonic Chaos but left out unused
 
@ShadowWizard wordpress bought them over
 
@Mithrandir maybe two flags on same post? So it counts as two in the counter, but showing only one item in the details?
@JourneymanGeek hmm.... and guess that's when they stopped caring about bugs or maintain their existing software. And it started to degrade slowly.
 
@ShadowWizard presumably
also, I don't see any way for a gravatar style service to make money
 
@ShadowWizard ...Hmm. Let me check something.
 
12:52 PM
@JourneymanGeek premium features
If they don't have such, they're plain stupid.
 
@ShadowWizard like?
 
@ShadowWizard Nope, it shows up differently when there's more than one flag on a post.
 
I mean, what features would a site whose only job is to host avatars have?
More avatars?
Advanced editors?
 
They don't have image filter?
 
12:53 PM
@JourneymanGeek a guarantee that your image won't break for 1 day/month/year
 
@JourneymanGeek many... everyone got those, at least all the successful ones... stats, several accounts, mobile app support, dunno...
 
Like... filter to overlay hats..
 
See that is a feature people want
or maybe premium hats
 
Yeah
 
12:54 PM
@Mithrandir hmm... so we need moar powerz
 
I'm not even sure if a service like Gravatar is still needed, I remember reading the latest openid spec has support for avatars
 
Golden king crown -- 9.99 $
 
then again openid was never widely adopted either
 
@Stijn eh, its pretty widely adopted, just that everyone wants to be a provider, rather than use other folks openid ;p
 

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