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Braiam

12:04 AM

in /dev/chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Nov 9 '15 at 12:35, by Braiam

> PHP can also be seen as the Justin Bieber of programming tools. Both prove conclusively that you don't have to be good to be popular.

Jason C

I was torn between those two. They both express an equally intense love and passion for the art of hula dancing.

Their feverish, unfettered energy is almost too much to behold.

Their sensual grace knows no bounds.

@Telkitty Lol

bjb568

@JasonC How many or Shog socks?

user202362

...

Jason C

Step 1: Pretend that didn't happen

→ 6 messages moved to Chimney

Step 2: Run some programs

Step 3: Kick a puppy

Oh! Yeah we totally got this. I was kinda depressed about 185. Drum roll...

@Shog9 2193 unique users have passed through the Tavern during its lifetime.

@Telkitty It's probably safe to say that 21...80 of them came to whine about suspensions, lol.

Journeyman Geek

12:20 AM

@JasonC noooooo

Jason C

No, no, it's OK! The puppy was all alone, and sad!

Oh god. That was supposed to be a joke. But now I'm sad, lol.

And here comes the feelings of shame and regret.

Note to self: Do not make jokes during mentally fragile times. Brain cannot handle feelings while short-circuiting is in progress.

/me goes on chocolate and ice cream bender

Welp

backs away sloowwlllyy annnnnnddd.... Peace out, lol.

Shog9

@JasonC ok; so, 1337 trolls and 856 others. Fair 'nuff.

Trivia: I once worked in a chocolate factory. Not having much money at the time, I subsisted primarily on chocolate for the duration. Withdrawal at the end of this time did indeed lead to mental fragility.

Jason C

Withdrawal + lack of basically every nutrient but sugar, iron, and magnesium

(TIL the nutritional content of chocolate)

Also I've got science on the brain. My grief about my cat seems to be manifesting itself as this borderline insane obsession on finding an answer. Plus anxiety about my other cat. There's still the possibility that something contagious took him down. There's also been water quality issues here for a few months.

user202362

12:36 AM

user202362

where I was last weekend

Jason C

That's a confusing combination of environmental features

Is that snow, wet grass, and fog?

user202362

took me half an hour to boil first pot of snow

user202362

yes, foggy, snowy and ... green grass

user202362

there was also a fire ban there, can you believe that?

user202362

12:38 AM

not that there were any trees to start a camp fire with

Jason C

That is weird. But maybe they were more concerned about scarring than flammability

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2:03 AM

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user315433

It's best not to figure out what a thing is for. As long as the goal is unknown, one can't fail in achieving it. (Cf: Documentation)

user315433

"I only know one truth: it's time for the Tavern to end."

user315433

I think Ep. VIII trailer has more quotable material than the entire Ep. VII...

user202362

2:21 AM

just because Jason is allergic to cat gifs for the time being, it does not mean tavern is going to end

Journeyman Geek

lol

I mainly lived off ice milo when I was in the army

(Its like nesquick, but better)

user202362

2:40 AM

I brought fresh veges and fruit to multi-day bushwalking trips, that sure got people talking

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2:52 AM

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Journeyman Geek

5:16 AM

My dog's probably getting most of his bottom front teeth pulled out today

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Journeyman Geek

8:02 AM

lol. I just realised teams died, when answering a question that got closed as dupe anyway ;p

I was wondering what happened to it. Needs to poke his head out of QA and chat sometimes. Or into MSO ._.

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8:14 AM

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Shadow Wizard

8:25 AM

Now that's a friendly error message ^

Journeyman Geek

lol

sounds typically google.

Shadow Wizard

Google Drive

Journeyman Geek

(if its MS, its either scary and unreadable or "Something broke")

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek months ago, maybe year or even more, yeah...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard yeah ;p

Shadow Wizard

8:27 AM

It caused me to think twice before delving into other things like Documentation

Journeyman Geek

I suppose until something comes up on the wider network, I don't really pay attention

Shadow Wizard

Why spend time on something that might get closed any moment?

Journeyman Geek

lol

glares at google

Shadow Wizard

Google Wave?

Journeyman Geek

lol

google reader.

Shadow Wizard

8:28 AM

you lol a lot :D

Journeyman Geek

I jumped to another one which also died. Then ran my own RSS feed reader (to this day)

I do.

Stijn

Obviously the goal of the tavern is waffles!

Journeyman Geek

But yeah, unless it comes to places outside SO, I probably am less likely to notice

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yup guess the only safe option

Stijn

@JourneymanGeek I still kinda miss iGoogle :(

Shadow Wizard

8:30 AM

Until your own server dies and you forget where the code is... :D

Journeyman Geek

@Stijn on the other hand, I still use a lot of google stuff

@ShadowWizard ah, I backup my server.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek but you might forget where the code is...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard funny that...

Shadow Wizard

I had to search many times for years old projects, buried behind gigas of files

Journeyman Geek

I lost my ssh keys for a few months...

then found 2 copies...

@ShadowWizard some services are unlikely to go suddenly.

Also, I'm not a dev

I'm hardware geek who knows his way around a linux box (a little), desktops (a bit more)...

So there's no real code.

If I need code, I git clone the shit out of it.

A longer term project would be to throw some flavour of config management on top of the next server build

Shadow Wizard

9:25 AM

@Derpy probably won't be surprised ^

SQL Server eating all disk space

Derpy

@ShadowWizard not "Windows Update Media Cache?"

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy not using Windows Media, so no. :)

Derpy

@ShadowWizard windows update. I seem to remember there is the random "media" word in there too for "reasons" only M$ knows, but I just meant the Microsoft Update Cache folder.

which usually grows exponentially to ~~infect~~ ~~plague~~ ~~haunt~~ .... waste most of the machine disk space

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy ohhh.... hmm.... didn't scan C:\ yet

(as it's not a problem)

user202362

9:41 AM

Derpy

The dog birdnapped @Infinite! GET HIM!

2

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy see the time stamp, it was before she joined SO

@Stijn you should label each person there ;)

@JourneymanGeek oh my, why? How old is he? (she?)

Elephant

@Infinite

unpingable :(

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty how you kept them fresh? And why talking? Many people eat fresh vegetables... :)

@Elephant for loooooong time... she has long periods of... inactivity. :/

user202362

most people only bring dehydrated food on hikes because of weight

Shadow Wizard

9:50 AM

@InfiniteRecursion boo :D

but here, just pinged her ;)

@Telkitty oh... but you're strong, so you can carry 30kg bag? ;-)

Hire @Elephant he's even stronger

user202362

my other stuff are light, like 1kg tent, 100g sleeping mat

Shadow Wizard

oh, but that must have cost a fortune...

user202362

generally I choose light gears

Shadow Wizard

And you also bring small amount of clothes? @Tel

user202362

well, if you can get a good 2-3 years out of your gears, it turns out to be not so bad

user202362

9:53 AM

@ShadowWizard I bring many changes

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user202362

but most of them are light

user202362

only 1 jacket usually

Shadow Wizard

@Shog9 don't you have your own stats, pure and non scraped? ;)

Elephant

Been a while opening CV queue on SO, and apparently I was CVing [success] tag long time ago?

search MSO for burnination request

Shadow Wizard

9:56 AM

@Telkitty for me jeans are really heavy, when going on vacations... so I bring only two. The one on me, and one in the bag.

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard Yup

Shadow Wizard

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard Running since 09:55:07 UTC (1 minute)

user202362

cotton & wool can be light

user202362

I don't wear jeans

Stijn

9:58 AM

@ShadowWizard I don't remember half of the names, and only know them in Dutch :p

Shadow Wizard

10:13 AM

@Stijn lol... meant with Tavern folks.... :D

Journeyman Geek

10:38 AM

@ShadowWizard 12. Had 7 rotten teeth removed

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek whoa... so how will he eat now? :(

Journeyman Geek

Soft food for a few days.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek and after few days? How can a dog eat without teeth?

Fawad

What all will happen when question made anonymous from account (when asked to moderator) ?

Hello everyone

Journeyman Geek

10:55 AM

@ShadowWizard he has most of em

Shadow Wizard

@Fawad then question will become anonymous and removed from the account of its author, as if they never asked it. (no reputation events in their profile, no way to see they ever asked it.)

I doubt even moderators can see this, @JourneymanGeek can you see who asked a question that was unlinked from it's OP?

@JourneymanGeek oh. Still... poor dog...

Fawad

@ShadowWizard 1) if someone upvote will I get reputation? 2)If I remove will upvote/down votes reputation removed from my account?

Shadow Wizard

@Fawad 1) No 2) No unless this is an answer, then downvote costs 1 rep as usual regardless who posted it

Fawad

@ShadowWizard if I remove questions which have negative votes then my question ban will be removed? (I have 2 question with -3 and 1or 2 with -1 and 0)

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Shadow Wizard

11:07 AM

@Fawad you can't do that yourself. Only moderator can. And with thousands of people getting question banned, I doubt they will just follow the wishes of everyone. Maybe they will, but most likely they won't. People should pay for their mistakes.

So if your request is denied, please don't pester the moderators. It won't end well.

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Fawad

11:23 AM

jsfiddle.net/Ldvwp8uv/12/embedded/result

So it will never going to show Jeff Atwood and shog9 fault?^

Shadow Wizard

Fawad

@ShadowWizard didn't showed me till now :( but thanks I will save image

Shadow Wizard

@Fawad you can just spin again....and again.... and again....

Fawad

@ShadowWizard doing it..

!!blame

Shadow Wizard

@Fawad here is a new wheel, much better: jsfiddle.net/Ldvwp8uv/22/embedded/result

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

11:29 AM

@ShadowWizard It's Shadow Wizard's fault.

Shadow Wizard

I know.

Stijn

@ShadowWizard zelfkennis is het begin van alle wijsheid

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn אין לי מושג מה אמרת אבל זה נראה מאוד יפה

Stijn

@ShadowWizard they're words of wisdom :)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard no

Assuming its properly dissociated

we have one early user with no account, and answers under her name.

Shadow Wizard

11:36 AM

@Stijn :)

@JourneymanGeek heh, so a moderator can perform an action they can't undo? Or even see its result?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard dissociation is CM level

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh, didn't know that. So it makes chances even lower that such requests are fulfilled. Guess there are hundreds of flags on SO per day asking to disassociate questions...

People should use the "contact us" for that then, not flag.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Even then

Don't ask questions you don't want seen

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek exactly

M.A.R.

12:01 PM

Don't want questions you don't ask seen

Journeyman Geek

Sometimes true too

Shadow Wizard

Don't questions want you ask don't seen

M.A.R.

Don't don't want ask seen you questions

Shadow Wizard

Want don't ask don't you seen questions

M.A.R.

Questions want you seen don't don't ask

Shadow Wizard

12:07 PM

Gravatar strikes again.... what a surprise

@Braiam you're that green-ish identicon

Journeyman Geek

lol

Shadow Wizard

Please ditch Gravatar, it's so crappy that it's funny

Never seen a worse product/service/whatever.

Bart

It's amazing how terrible they manage to make such a simple service

Shadow Wizard

Wonder what will make people to finally throw it away? Only when all images will be wiped out? Or show a NSFW pic?

(it's probably really easy to hack, considering the zero efforts they put into their product.)

@Bart thing is, it used to work, for years. Guess they changed owner, no?

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard What if . . . certain people here . . . actually . . . like their avatar being NSFW?

Bart

12:11 PM

@ShadowWizard loooong time ago, yes.

Shadow Wizard

90% of the times, when a good website is bought by a large firm/website, it's either becoming crap, or shutting down.

If SE will be bought, as whole, by big company, I'm 1000% sure the first thing they'll do is shut down all meta sites. Big companies do NOT love feedback.

@M.A.R. hehe, if they want to get fired...... :D

M.A.R.

But I like fire. It's warm

Braiam

@ShadowWizard uh, no....

who the heck is that?

M.A.R.

I'm seeing Brai as that mysterious glasses guy though

So it's not borked for me

Shadow Wizard

@Braiam you

@M.A.R. that is @Bart

Elephant

12:17 PM

Shadow Wizard

:(

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard No, I'm seeing Brai correctly

Elephant

(no, it's not photoshopped)

Shadow Wizard

I see, so Gravatar decided to strike back at me. waving fist

M.A.R.

Sha you ranted about Gravatar so much, they're out to get you

Braiam

12:17 PM

No SE for crappy non-dev Facebook questions?

M.A.R.

I'd be hiding if I were you

Shadow Wizard

;O;

M.A.R.

@Braiam Yahoo.SE

Elephant

Quora.SE

Shadow Wizard

lol

Braiam

12:18 PM

@M.A.R. uh, yeah, hold on that

Shadow Wizard

webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/facebook

M.A.R.

I dunno what Webapps is about.

So Webapps.

@ShadowWizard jinx

Shadow Wizard

Web Applications Stack Exchange is for expert and advanced users of web applications.

If your question generally covers …

Using Gmail, Facebook, Twitter, Google, or any other website which behaves like an application
Bookmarklets
Features of browsers which are directly related to the use of a web application (Greasemonkey scripts for a web application, etc.)
… then you’re in the right place to ask your question!

M.A.R.

Whoa whoa

It's not my question

Don't drag me into this

Shadow Wizard

Drag don't into this me

M.A.R.

12:20 PM

Don't this me into drag

Shadow Wizard

Don't drug me into this

M.A.R.

On a perhaps related note, I'm not gonna like The Boss Baby

Braiam

Don't

M.A.R.

Dreamworks seems to try and make a film out of poop jokes

And they get crappier any time

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. some people like poop jokes :D

M.A.R.

12:23 PM

@ShadowWizard I like them when they're actually funny

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. bet @Jason knows tons of funny poop jokes

Bart

I like them when they're shit.

Shadow Wizard

oh, and @Bart. Of course.

@Bart is one of few people who can turn poop into gold. I'm sure of it. :P

Bart

And people recognize that @ShadowWizard. They always tell me I'm full of crap.

Shadow Wizard

waiting for @Bart to publish a book

M.A.R.

12:28 PM

@ShadowWizard "5 crazy tricks to getting your message starred in a chat"?

2

Shadow Wizard

Anyway, @M.A.R. in Israel we got reality TV show called "Baby Boom". And in Hebrew "Baby Boss" look exactly like "Baby Boom", it's "בייבי בוס" vs. "בייבי בום" so I thought the ads were for the TV show. lol

Stijn

Grandpa Bart on his rocking chair, gather 'round me, beautiful grandchildren of mine, and I'll tell you 'bout the time I got 5 starred messages in a day!

Bart

Only 5?

Shadow Wizard

500 Internal @Bart error

Bart

Chat is weird today. Keeps telling me to retry submitting messages.

Shadow Wizard

12:32 PM

@Bart blame Gravatar ;)

Bart

Always

Stijn

we should get Gravatar added to the wheel

M.A.R.

We should get the wheel added to Gravatar

Shadow Wizard

We should get added Gravatar to the wheel

Stijn

teketet123

whoops

Braiam

12:35 PM

We should add get to the gravatar wheel

Darn it @Stijn

Stijn

switching to chat while having keepass fill in a password is a bad idea

Braiam

Don't worry, the NSA already knew

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn so.... delete?

Stijn

@ShadowWizard it's part of a password of an account of an internal system that won't exist in 2 weeks

Shadow Wizard

oh

Stijn

12:37 PM

it's also the only one I know by head, because I have to go to the sysadmin's desk and manually type in a new password every three months :p

Shadow Wizard

hacking into @Stijn's internal system

2

Stijn

Shadow Wizard makes a cool hacker handle

Elephant

@Stijn I thought you're mixing telkitty with hichris123?

3

Shadow Wizard

that's a great password!

Mithrandir

tries to figure out if I revealed too many secrets or not

Shadow Wizard

12:45 PM

Yes you did!

Mithrandir

:/

Shadow Wizard

lol j/k

Mithrandir

Could tell :P

And that emoticon was an absolute failure.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir still don't get it, the "3" is the number of flags users raised about you?

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard Yes.

Stijn

12:47 PM

3

he was being serious :o

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir so it got nothing to do with your flag history, why you expect it to match? (I mean, your second screenshot is the standard flag history, of flags we raised)

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard What? Both of those are that were raised on my stuff.

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn proud at self

:D

Mithrandir

One is the general overview, the other is actually going and looking to see what those flags were.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir oh, the design is the same then, confusing. :)

Mithrandir

12:49 PM

So if you raise a flag on, say, this, the little number would go up, and the details would show up in the other page.

Derpy

oh, nice. The Sunset Park boss music from the GG version of Sonic Triple Trouble was already meant to be in Sonic Chaos but left out unused

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard wordpress bought them over

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir maybe two flags on same post? So it counts as two in the counter, but showing only one item in the details?

@JourneymanGeek hmm.... and guess that's when they stopped caring about bugs or maintain their existing software. And it started to degrade slowly.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard presumably

also, I don't see any way for a gravatar style service to make money

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard ...Hmm. Let me check something.

Shadow Wizard

12:52 PM

@JourneymanGeek premium features

If they don't have such, they're plain stupid.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard like?

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard Nope, it shows up differently when there's more than one flag on a post.

Journeyman Geek

I mean, what features would a site whose only job is to host avatars have?

More avatars?

Advanced editors?

Elephant

They don't have image filter?

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M.A.R.

12:53 PM

@JourneymanGeek a guarantee that your image won't break for 1 day/month/year

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek many... everyone got those, at least all the successful ones... stats, several accounts, mobile app support, dunno...

Elephant

Like... filter to overlay hats..

Shadow Wizard

lol

Journeyman Geek

See that is a feature people want

or maybe premium hats

M.A.R.

Yeah

Shadow Wizard

12:54 PM

@Mithrandir hmm... so we need moar powerz

Stijn

I'm not even sure if a service like Gravatar is still needed, I remember reading the latest openid spec has support for avatars

M.A.R.

Golden king crown -- 9.99 $

Stijn

then again openid was never widely adopted either

Journeyman Geek

@Stijn eh, its pretty widely adopted, just that everyone wants to be a provider, rather than use other folks openid ;p

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