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5:00 PM

@ManofSnow On which site?

@ProgramFOX Meta SO

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Q: Answers to Answer and Death by Jeff

I found in interesting bug today, I tried to delete one of my questions and it said 'sorry, this question has answers and cannot be deleted'. But, in fact, it only had one answer... Another question hangs in the balance of the universe. Is Jeff going to kill me? https://twitter.com/coding...

discussion bug answers hyperlinks deleted-questions

Entertaining titles get people to look :)

We seem to have a filter issue on SE as well

My wheel of blame didn't get submitted yet?

Myeah, there seems to be some glitchiness going on.

Nothing on Stackstatus so far

This. It has so many more features

5:06 PM

Oh sure, so now it's all my fault

Lol :P I spinned it and it said "Bart's fault" :P

Not ThiefMaster's

Who ate my sandwhich? Everything points to Jan Dvorak

@ManofSnow: If you want that the link to the Wheel gets updated, then you should talk to the room owners

@ProgramFOX Or any mSO mod (SO mods, some SF and SU mods too).

@ProgramFOX @Shog9 Can this be the new wheel of blame?

This is strange: I asked a question 18 minutes ago, but it still didn't show up on the newest question list.

5:16 PM

@ProgramFOX yeah, it looks something is in maintenance or broken.

maybe it's already gone?

@JanDvorak The question?

No, it still exists.

gone from the hotlist

@JanDvorak flags every new question as spam

on programmers there is also 0 activity

All sites are experiencing some glitching it seems. New posts don't show up.

5:18 PM

this could explain the absence of Baba

or maybe it's giving us a headstart?

programmers.stackexchange.com/questions?sort=unanswered shows no unanswered questions

Wait, glitching network wide? goes to check

@rene yay!

Which is impossible... programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/226341/… has zero answers

Doorknob of Snow

I like llamas

5:20 PM

@hichris123 the computer says no

The computer... is wrong. gasp

Let me check..no...computer says no

interesting, an error occured while I made a downvote.

Where's that dev superping when you need it? ;)

Hello rene.

5:23 PM

I'm pretty sure if every dev would be pinged if a bug surfaced in the prodction software all projects would grind to a halt

Hello Laslo Papp.

rene, I was surprised you reviewed so many close votes.

Oh? did I?

@rene Or if a major PII vulnerability was found.

@DoorknobofSnow And I like foxes.

rene, yes, 5723. :)

Doorknob of Snow

5:25 PM

@ProgramFOX I never could have guessed. :O

I'm struggling like Kate with getting any reviews out of those queues

@LaszloPapp that is close votes, yeah

CV is easy

Those are always available

Some like that, some not

@ManofSnow: What's going on with your question? It shows the body of one of your other questions!

I feel like answering questions now to get rep to review CV. :)

@ProgramFOX A bug

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Q: Editing question title creates whole new question

I opened my questions tab, and this shows up: All I did was change the name of the question, and now meta stackoverflow thinks it's two questions. Well the thing is, MSO actually created it as a new question! Why?

bug stackoverflow questions meta

rene, amazing that you have 1337 reputation. :-)

5:30 PM

And why is that @LaszloPapp? That is on meta.

rene, you know the number 1337?

Doorknob of Snow

what is happening with SE? So many bugs are randomly popping up O_o

Baba is tired of our sh*t @DoorknobofSnow

Doorknob of Snow

@Bart Lol, he/she/they did say they would hack us... :D

rene, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

5:35 PM

Crap. What is happening with SE?

Doorknob of Snow

^

@hichris123 [StackStatus](https://twitter.com/StackStatus) said two days ago:
> We had some turbulence as a secondary data center came back online - we are stable now but still watching.
Probably there is again turbulence.

Doorknob of Snow

12 meta posts in the past hour :O

@LaszloPapp I'll create a sock and leave this account...

@ProgramFOX Huh, probably...

5:37 PM

Hmmm, we have some questions to mark as duplicate

@Undo you here?

@hichris123 yup

what's happening?

@Undo SE's going... crazy.

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo Everything.

>:O

@hichris123 as in?

5:40 PM

Actually, I wanted to ask you how you made that NavBar function?

@hichris123 oh, what about it?

@Undo Like how'd you make it? (just gimme a file in Charcoal, I can look at it).

oh

Oh Irony

“The hardest, most valuable thing is to get groups of smart people to work together on a common goal.”@richarmstrong https://medium.com/servant-leadership/3b0e39d87179

Tweeted by StackExchange on February 1, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Let's hope that's the case at the moment

:)

looks at code

@hichris123 github.com/Charcoal-SE/Charcoal/blob/master/base.php#L32

Come on, what's happening?

5:42 PM

@Undo Unanswered tab showing 0 when more unanswered q's on Programmers, question showing body of another question, error with downvoting, questions not showing up on newest list, stuff like that.

The newest questions tab is updated now on MSO, but on SO, I don't see any question.

@Undo Oh, okay. Thanks. :P

@Undo @hichris123 For the app, do you guys mind giving me the queries in query.SE that you used to make Charcoal?

@ManofSnow Just look on our respective profiles on SEDE. They're all on there.

sorry

5:46 PM

You rang?

Yes, no

Adams family time. :P

@hichris123 You have too much :P which ones are used?

Doorknob of Snow

hum, that's weird. Hovering over that deleted message still shows that it pinged Bart.

let's test it

Cool

Doorknob of Snow

5:47 PM

apparently there's 0 meta questions now... -_-

what is with this bugness???

@DoorknobofSnow Great, glad to see all is solved then. It was fun while it lasted. Cya

:1787479 I'm pinging your deleted message

@ManofSnow A lot of them. Mainly the Obsolete's query and the one with please accepts.

Anyway... It looks like the sites can't decide to show a live page or cached one

Meta... was fun while it lasted. It's dead @Bart. My condolences for your family.

5:49 PM

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Q: Deleted chat messages still show links if they refer to another message

If a user posts a message in chat that links directly to another chat message like 12345689: You smell funny! The chat rightly highlights message 12345689 when you hover over User: You smell funny! If the user or a moderator deletes the You smell funny! message, the text changes to (removed), ...

bug status-bydesign chat

Doorknob of Snow

@TimStone alright

~~At least the chat still forks wine.~~

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@DoorknobofSnow Come up with some random leaving messages for me for Charcoal, all I can think of is 'Going to eat Frogs with weaved Toads'

Doorknob of Snow

@JanDvorak ahhh! malfunctioning! is chat now

us to happening this is why

My case with meta today: Ask question about bug, find bug that happens when posting that bug, post it, repeat

5:51 PM

This one - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/218336/…

Maybe it's a sign of impending big changes? Like the split of Meta? — Pëkka 1 min ago

Heh, I doubt it. Though it would be nice...

I might use all my flags on meta today!

Oh, @Pëkka I saw some genuine Gucci bags yesterday (though they might have been some of your counterfit ones...).

I bet it's the overload of data that their tables can't hold from Jon Skeet's rep

@ManofSnow Do you mind if I edit your "Editing question title creates whole new question" to a more generic title?

@Bart Go ahead

5:54 PM

It's used as a dupe now. So its title is somewhat confusing

Ah, nevermind. Martijn had the same idea

@Bart Oh okay :P

Oh I just wake up and you guys have made a huge mess over in aisle 4...

Don't worry @animuson. @Manishearth wrote a replacement for you

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1787347#1787347 - don't onebox

^ There @animuson.

That's a huge onebox...

You can quote the quote to get an even bigger one

Doorknob of Snow

5:57 PM

37 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

30 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

25 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

22 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

18 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

13 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

9 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow

like this!

rene: hehe

I see

Doorknob of Snow

okay, I'll stop now :D

How do you quote things?

25 secs ago, by Jan Dvorak

19 secs ago, by Jan Dvorak

@ManofSnow post a link to them

5:59 PM

@JanDvorak test.com

Nope

@ManofSnow It has to be a oneboxable thing.

@ManofSnow general quote is >

So many duplicates!

>JanDvorak Test

oneboxing comments only works from chats across SE

@ManofSnow you need a space

6:00 PM

@ManofSnow chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/faq#formatting

> JanDvorak >JanDvorak I like pie

Doorknob of Snow

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A: Which links and sites are handled specially in chat?

The current list of integrated (we call this onebox, or oneboxing, ala search engines) sites is: Stack Exchange sites: Questions / Answers / Users / Comments Stack Exchange Chat: Messages / Rooms / Bookmarked conversations Area 51 proposals Posts from the Stack Exchange blog, the Server Fault b...

lol

Recursion!

Hey, go to the sandbox for that.

/me takes out smiting stick

Doorknob of Snow

6:02 PM

@animuson ok. :P

@ProgramFOX How does it work?

@ManofSnow Post a message.

How do you quote a quote?

Post a message, edit it into a link to the same message

Then, copy the permalink.

6:02 PM

Let's do it in sandbox

and keep editing the same link into it

Replace the original message with the permalink.

Do that over and over again.

@ManofSnow Now there's a statement that needs context.

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Doorknob of Snow

haha

Sandbox

Where you can play with regular chat features (except flagging...

Wait, which sandbox do we go to?!?!?!?!

That or

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/651/sandbox

?????

6:04 PM

#1 is the authentic one

the other is a #651

It has a 1 in it...

but not a \b1\b

651 containing a 1 does not make it a 1

Similarly the house I'm in is not, in fact, me despite including me in it.

I'm the one.

user image

On the other hand God is love.

Doorknob of Snow

6:08 PM

@JanDvorak but I see a little one in the top right corner :P

@DoorknobofSnow the one one in the URL is more important that the one one denoting the number of active users.

God is one

Some people think God is one and three

raises hand

three in one :D

Some think he's a DJ

6:10 PM

slaps Undo's raised hand

@rlesko: Please either post an answer yourself and accept it, or delete the question (since there are no answers). — animuson Nov 12 '11 at 0:51

@Undo ^ I'm trying to find shameful comments of animuson's to flag. :P

yay!

ooh, me has to do taxes this year!

Ooh, do moderators handle flags of their own content? If not you could flag tons of @animuson's content, and there would be nothing he could do about the count.

@Bart I think they can now.

they didn't use to be able to.

We can.

6:12 PM

@Undo You do?

Dangit

@hichris123 yes

Glad I don't have to. :P

:P

trudges through email looking for receipts

@animuson hasn't left many edit or accept comments... :(

6:13 PM

holy crap.

A lot of comments I leave get deleted along with the post.

user image

Someone needs a lesson in inbox management :P

Select Id, Text, Id as [Comment Link]
From Comments
Where UserId = 246246
AND Text like '%edit%'

That turns up 22 rows returned in 3 ms (cached). :/

Only have 93 messages?

@animuson But they're in my my family's inbox.

> Words of Wisdom: An inbox is not a filing system!

6:14 PM

I hate it when I'm developing something, check SE for a second and forget what I was doing.

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@Undo Google is your friend. :P

I still have a message from 10/24/06 in my inbox. xD

UNI.CC Network, ah remember the olden days.

NOOOOOOO!!!!

cueup.com

Cue is shutting down!

;(

sad face

What is cue?

That was the best email searcher outside of Gmail EVER!!!

6:17 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Possible spam: where are the drawings for DE 202005010768 U1

Wait.

theverge.com/2013/10/3/4799754/…

^ Yay!

I think we just found two socks... on Patents.SE. :P

Sex toy patents! Ha

@3ventic Story of my life.

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Q: How do the Stack Exchange WebSockets work? What are all the options you can send to them?

The Stack Exchange WebSockets are handy for various things (like handling spam). For example, try running this JavaScript in your browser's console: var w = new WebSocket("ws://sockets.ny.stackexchange.com/"); w.onmessage = function(e) { console.log(e) }; w.onopen = function() { w.send("155-ques...

support web-sockets

^ This. Please.

+1'd

6:20 PM

Anyone want to wish me luck on reinstalling MySQL for the billionth time?

+1d

Good luck!

wishes luck

You were 2d, now you're 3d!

We've had this discussion before @hichris123, use a proper rdbms like ms-sql

6:22 PM

@hichris123 good luck

@rene NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't stand MS-SQL. :P

And besides, this is just for fun... like the SO posts & comments & random stuff like that.

Why does this post show getting bumped by Lance on the homepage, when it was reopened by Animuson?

@hichris123 I think because he was the last one who edited the post.

It looks like it just shows the latest editor, not the person who reopened it.

I guess so.

I wonder why there's a quota on SE

@ManofSnow What quota?

6:26 PM

Mine is 9972/10,000

@ProgramFO I guess on posts or something

Do you mean API quota?

I just read it on the JSON retrieved from the API

@ProgramFOX Yeah, what is that?

Yeah, there's an 10,000 API quota for requests by OAuth'ed users per day.

hey guys

@ManofSnow I think there is a quota to avoid too much requests from one person. To avoid overcharge of the server.

6:27 PM

why is there no "this should be a comment" for recommending deletions?

@ProgramFOX Do you ever get quota back?

@joeytje50 Low Quality Posts? There is one...

stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/3953705 I want to flag that post for deletion, but none of the options is good for me

@ManofSnow I think you get back quota next day.

@ProgramFOX Haha, I've requested about 30 times today :P

6:28 PM

> This is commentary on another post and not an answer.

but it is an answer

it's just not at all a complete answer

Then do you really think it should be deleted? Just downvote it then...

well it should instead be a comment, not an answer

but it's not that it's not an answer

and there is a seperate option for link-only answers, but not for this kind of answers

even though this kind of answers is just as bad as link answers

Jeroen Vannevel

I recall seeing a recent post that re-addressed the idea of a "subjective" StackOverflow version but I can't find it. Anyone know what question I'm talking about perhaps? It had a fair amount of upvotes (50+)

6:44 PM

I can't find anything about flags on the Stack Exchange API

@ManofSnow They're not officially public yet (it's in API v2.2). However... you can still access them. :P

@hichris123 How?

I found 'max_daily_actions 2.1 integer'

@ManofSnow api.stackexchange.com/docs/create-comment-flag for comment flags...

(note it's not stable, and any flags you cast while messing around with it are treated as real flags. So be careful :P)

@hichris123 There's nothing for answers?

6:51 PM

@ManofSnow api.stackexchange.com/docs/create-answer-flag

I'm trying the /answers/{id}/flags/options, but it says there's no method found with that name...

@JeroenVannevel it was recent, or you saw it recently? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/57383/…

@ManofSnow You have to GET the request.

@hichris123 I am

I think it's GET for options, POST for submitting the flag.

6:55 PM

@hichris123 "No method found"

What's the code you're using?

Jeroen Vannevel

@Bart I saw it recently, but that's not the one though

This is the link I'm requesting

@ManofSnow You have to replace {id} with the ID of the answer.

Doorknob of Snow

@ManofSnow lol, what's {id}?

6:57 PM

@ProgramFOX Right.

@DoorknobofSnow The answer id

Doorknob of Snow

{id} is not an id...

also, I get {"error_id":400,"error_message":"`key` doesn't match a known application","error_name":"bad_parameter"}.

Yeah, you have to have an access_token and a key.

w/ write access, IIRC

Yep, with write access.

All I'm trying to do is get how much flags left the user can use

It doesn't seem like there's anything in the API for it

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