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mmyers

8:00 PM

Needs more dots?

The Renamed Exception

Running OpenSTV now

drachenstern

I just run with the basic settings right? after choosing meek

mmyers

I think so.

Josh's Socks

The Renamed Exception

Is that right? :-/

Shog9

8:04 PM

As a reward, I think we should all chip in and buy a hat for RegDwight.

mootinator

passes @drachenstern a consolation beer.

mmyers

@drachenstern: congratulations on your not-last-place finish!

drachenstern

thanks but I have a serious issue with a customer's server, ttyl

The Renamed Exception

@drachenstern good luck!

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Ouch, good luck!

Shog9

8:06 PM

vgv8 is on English? Excellent!

mmyers

@Shog9 Oh yes. Ohhhhhhhh yes.

But he's not my problem anymore.

Popular Demand

@Shog9 Based on your use the word "excellent," I'm glad you're aware of English SE.

mmyers

He's only been suspended once so far.

Shog9

@PopularDemand Aware, but not participating. Holding out for American.SE.

Popular Demand

@Shog9 Holding out? Just take over English. It'll be historically accurate.

Shog9

8:09 PM

@PopularDemand No, by rights A.SE should split off from E.SE, but keep the name.

mmyers

Well, RegDwight will be the first non-American moderator.

Popular Demand

.sx

.sx is a future Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) that is likely to be created for Sint Maarten, following the decision on December 15, 2010 by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency to allocate SX as the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sint Maarten. This decision followed Sint Maarten's new status as an autonomous country within the Kingdom of the Netherlands on October 10, 2010. Currently Sint Maarten uses the former Netherlands Antilles's ccTLD, .an. See also *.mf, the ccTLD proposed for the French side of the island. *.an, the ccTLD of the former Nehterlands Antilles being phased ...

Shog9

wonders if die.mf, dance.mf, or onebad.mf are taken

mootinator

When I ran in the federal election 'Rejected Ballots' beat me by 10 votes.

Moshe

2

A: Minimalist Style shouldn't include " - Stack Exchange" in the title.

Agree -- I am changing it so the content of the link is the shorter title without the - Stack Exchange part. <div id="hlogo"> <a href="/">Cooking</a> </div> It doesn't seem necessary to have the full title there, since that is always in the <title> tag anyway.

Popular Demand

8:11 PM

@mootinator His parents must have hated him.

mootinator

@PopularDemand I'll say.

ircmaxell

Woot! My Xoom is marked as shipping today! Should have it by Thursday! (so much for 2 day shipping)

Popular Demand

@ircmaxell ...isn't today Tuesday?

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand I hope so, otherwise I'm really confused.

ircmaxell

yes, but I ordered this last thursday

Moshe

8:14 PM

Should I be taking offense at the "where's my color?" posts on meta? :p

ircmaxell

yes

Michael Mrozek

In fairness, I'd be pretty annoyed if I got on SO one day and all the color was suddenly missing

Popular Demand

@ircmaxell Two-day shipping is two days starting on the day they ship it. Processing it and getting it out of the warehouse to the shipping company is always extra.

@MichaelMrozek And yet here you are on the first page of Meta users.

mootinator

@Moshe At least they're asking where their color is and not, WTF is with this fugly new theme.

Popular Demand

Perhaps they should have Jin whip up a beautiful skin for Meta that will exist only for one day.

Michael Mrozek

8:17 PM

And serve it only to mobile users

Popular Demand

rococo.css

mootinator

iPads, specifically

ircmaxell

@PopularDemand Tell me about it...

Popular Demand

How long does it take for a delete vote to age away?

ircmaxell

@mootinator I think you missed the comments on this post

mootinator

8:20 PM

Oh well.

I think there's opportunity in this.

ircmaxell

There's always opportunity

mootinator

Step 1. Minimalist theme.

Step 2. > Every purchase of "Nippon: Game of the Year Edition" will come with the ability to turn off my terrible StackExchange theme on iOS devices!

Step 3. Profit!

ircmaxell

HA!

Nyuszika7H

Could anyone tell me why doesn't overriding the RegExp object override regex literals, too, but deleting it breaks regexes?

-1

A: Everything is grayscale on my iPad?

This is by design at the moment; we consider iPad a mobile device and serve it our basic low-bandwidth, minimalistic mobile CSS / images. We will be improving this template in the future. edit: We treat iPad as a mobile device because of problems with the WMD editor and Mobile Safari. I agree ...

George Edison

8:40 PM

@Shog9: Do you like freehand circles?

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

0

Q: Migrate view privileges?

Once granted on one of the SE sites, the "view vote counts" and "view close votes" privileges should be granted on other stack sites too. These two privileges do not let you mess up anything on the low-rep sites (which you presumably would if you had all your edit privileges. Not!) and furthermor...

mmyers

HEY MAN DO YOU LIKE FREEHAND CIRCLES?

badp's sockpuppet

I SURE LIKE FREEHANDED CIRCLES.

George Edison

@badp: Good!

Michael Mrozek

Why do people feel the need to link the questions they just asked? We'll see them; we all hang out on meta, that's why we're in here

George Edison

8:42 PM

I'm looking for beta testers for a new UserScript.

Popular Demand

Ooh, you get spam flags back once they've been reviewed? Nice!

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek To DEMAND ATTENTION

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

@GeorgeEdison is it the "copy" script? If so, I'm game

George Edison

@KlausByskovHoffmann: Afraid not.

It's a freehand circle script for Meta :P

files.quickmediasolutions.com/userscripts/circles.user.js

^---- Install link.

It adds an HTML5 canvas to each image on Meta posts, allowing you to draw freehand circles on them.

...then it offers you the option of saving the image with the changes and returns an imgur.com URL.

@badp: Drooling yet?

Tim Stone

Ahahhaha

That's great :D

Shog9

8:45 PM

@GeorgeEdison I'm more about the drop-shadows. However, I give FHC respect.

The Renamed Exception

@GeorgeEdison memememememe!

George Edison

Feedback is appreciated.

Tim Stone

Seems to work pretty well. I wonder if there's a way to prevent the cursor from going all text-inputy?

George Edison

@TheRenamedException: Are you going to try it?

@Tim: I don't know... I noticed that.

The Renamed Exception

@GeorgeEdison just installed it

George Edison

8:45 PM

Oh, good.

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

Is it supposed to just show a black square with a moving dot in it?

George Edison

@Klaus: When it saves the image?

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

No, it just keeps doing it...

George Edison

Yes, it takes a few seconds to upload the post to a script on my server and then to imgur.

Tim Stone

That was....odd

For some reason only @GeorgeEdison's messages were being shown

George Edison

8:47 PM

@KlausByskovHoffmann: Any errors in the console?

Nyuszika7H

@GeorgeEdison joins for the beta

George Edison

@Nyuszika7H: Yay!

The Renamed Exception

@GeorgeEdison THIS IS GREAT

Nyuszika7H

@GeorgeEdison Ok, where's that unicornscript?

The Renamed Exception

I LOVE IT

Nyuszika7H

8:48 PM

Oh, I said unicornscript? I meant userscript.

George Edison

@TheRenamedException: There's more...!

Eventually it will edit the image in place.

Allowing you to actually replace the original.

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

@GeorgeEdison I'm getting:

An invalid or illegal string was specified" code: "12

The Renamed Exception

6

A: Graduated sites show "sketchy" offline page

As shown in the top of the screen capture, the issue is not so much the image of the page, it's the url the user is redirected to that is wrong. Just a helpful hint for the team :-) EDIT: I added a freehand frowny-face, freehand "oy!"s and, for good measure, a freehand crying unicorn... EDIT2: ...

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

I got this previous error: Permission denied for <http://meta.stackoverflow.com> to get property HTMLDocument.ownerDocument from <moz-safe-about:feeds>.

George Edison

@KlausByskovHoffmann: Okay, thanks.

The reason for that is that (apparently) FF doesn't allow access to feed content.

The Renamed Exception

8:50 PM

@GeorgeEdison truly, nice work, this is awesome

George Edison

@TheRenamedException: Thank you...

Nyuszika7H

George Edison

...stay tuned for a StackApps entry :)

Nyuszika7H

@GeorgeEdison where's the userscript?

George Edison

files.quickmediasolutions.com/userscripts/circles.user.js

The Renamed Exception

8:54 PM

@GeorgeEdison was it you who was asking what the "Status Control Room" was for?

George Edison

Nope.

Oh, maybe it was.

I can't remember.

Nyuszika7H

@GeorgeEdison OK, and how do I use it?

George Edison

Just draw on a picture in Meta.

George Marian

@TheRenamedException I think that was @drachenstern.

Unless I missed someone else asking about in the scrollback. I did get tired of reading it after a while. :)

Loïc Wolff

@GeorgeEdison OK. This is awesome :)

George Edison

8:56 PM

@LoïcWolff: Great.

Nyuszika7H

@GeorgeEdison awesome :)

The Renamed Exception

sorry just got pulled into a call

Tyler Chacha

Hello

George Marian

hey

The Renamed Exception

Argh, today is crazyness

George Marian

9:03 PM

d'oh

@TheRenamedException Firefighting day?

The Renamed Exception

in Status Control Room, Feb 21 at 1:34, by George Edison

Status: What does this do?

yes indeed

Popular Demand

And there go 35 more flags on SO. Well on my way to the upcoming Sheriff badge....

The Renamed Exception

@GeorgeEdison, that room is for my /status command for chat

in Status Script Discussion, 3 hours ago, by The Renamed Exception

Chat /status script v0.3a2 now available. Now works in all rooms, auto-join works, and provides ThirdPlace alpha 1!

Still has a few bugs I want to fix before getting more testers

George Edison

Cool.

George Marian

wordsquared.com

An MMO spin on Scrabble.

Nyuszika7H

9:21 PM

> You must build off of words you've played yourself (the dark tiles on the board) after your first turn.

WTF?!

George Marian

Heh, I misread that.

Moshe

9:49 PM

Quick Q: I'm doing a rotating banner on top of a site. 3 still images, each links to a different page. Do I use one img tag or multiple ones?

Shog9

Use 12 img tags, four for each image.

(j/k)

mmyers

12? You're awfully parsimonious. It's not like the internets have limited space.

Shog9

Well, I would say one for each pixel, but that would just be silly.

mmyers

Come on! Live a little!

Shog9

@Moshe: have you considered using voxels?

Nyuszika7H

9:52 PM

night :)

Moshe

@Shog9 huh? What's Voxels? Isn't that a tech publisher

@Shog9 No, that would at least indicate a method to the madness.

mmyers

Uh-oh. Community♦ wishes to inform the moderators that Jon Skeet Facts has more than 20 comments. I'd better delete it before things get out of hand.

Shog9

I say instead of three discrete images, you use one 3D image that contains all the information, and just let the user fly around in it.

badp's sockpuppet

Ah, the usual conundrum. Delete, or destroy Jon Skeet?

Moshe

@badpssockpuppet Obliterate

mmyers

9:55 PM

@Shog9 Discreet images?

badp's sockpuppet

@Moshe That must be a dev++ feature.

Shog9

@mmyers Need Spelling.SE...

Moshe

Ah well, I'm going with one image for now. googles preloading images with JS... it's been too long...

Shog9

new Image()

Moshe

@Shog9 Ah, right. Thank you. googles detailed usage with examples :P

mmyers

9:57 PM

Well, "discreet images" has a meaning too. It's just a little different connotation.

Moshe

remembers that he has jQuery to work with and probably can use that for much of this.

Shog9

I assume, given that these are rotating banner ads, that they will not be discreet.

Moshe

@Shog9 No they are actually for a school benefits website

badp's sockpuppet

I'm sure the parents will be glad to sustain the sight of discreet images to help the poor children.

Moshe

Is there jQuery to grab all values of a form into an array easily?

Shog9

10:07 PM

like... the form plugin?

Moshe

@Shog9 Like the serialize function which I just found.

Shog9

;-)

Moshe

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The Renamed Exception

I would love advice from some VMware experts

0

Q: Multiple vCPUs or multiple identical VMs, which is better?

I am looking to upgrade one of our servers, an 8 core server running VMware Server 2. The VMs it runs are mostly web, file, and email servers; specifically, it runs three webservers, 2 email/file servers, and a few Jabber/XMPP Servers. When we originally set this machine up, we had the two web s...

load-balancing vmware-esxi smp vcpu

Tim Stone

You used the B word! :o

badp's sockpuppet

10:16 PM

The B word is a lie
The B word is a lie
The B word is a lie
The B word is a lie

unless the B word is a beer.

The Renamed Exception

@TimStone I what?

mmyers

@badpssockpuppet His name is Robert Paulson.

The Renamed Exception

@badpssockpuppet I could use a beer right now...

Tim Stone

@TheRenamedException betterer

The Renamed Exception

@badpssockpuppet when I see your name in replies I always think "bad sockpuppet!"

@TimStone oh yes, good point.

badp's sockpuppet

10:19 PM

@TheRenamedException just like somebody's socks?

The Renamed Exception

Help me make it objective.

@badpssockpuppet shhhhhh! You'll wake them up!

mmyers

"Better" doesn't automatically mean "subjective".

I am suddenly reminded of an old Dilbert strip.

Tim Stone

Yeah, I was just making random commentary after reading this question. I'm also on a conference call. :P

mmyers

dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-06-03

badp's sockpuppet

That strip's older than me.

mmyers

10:21 PM

Come on, onebox! onebox! oneboooxxx!

Tim Stone

@badpssockpuppet I feel young now.

mmyers

George Marian

@TimStone Yeah, well I feel old. :P

mmyers

Some people who were born in the 1990s are old enough to drink now. Does that help?

George Marian

LOL No, not really.

Tim Stone

10:25 PM

Yay, even with my measly rep, I'm in the top 6% overall.

According to this nifty link now on my profile. :P

George Marian

@TimStone Eh?

Tim Stone

Check your SO profile, under your reps.

(It's just a link to the rep leagues, but with a percentage, heh)

George Marian

OIC

Shiny.

That might just be enough motivation to work on my SO rep. Well, at least for a little while.

Tim Stone

Yeah, now I just need to find the time.

ChrisF

@TimStone "Top 1% overall" - which just goes to show that there are a lot of users who've registered but don't participate

George Marian

10:29 PM

@TimStone Wish I had that problem. ;)

Tim Stone

@ChrisF Well, I'm sure you can give yourself a little bit of credit for that, you know. :P

mmyers

Hmm. Top 1% on SO but top 2% on Meta, despite being only near the top of page 2.

Tim Stone

@GeorgeMarian Feel free to fill in for me.

George Marian

lol

That bad, huh?

Shog9

1% on both Meta and SO, but 2% and 6% on Programmers and Cooking.

now I'm sad.

mmyers

10:31 PM

Is there an overall league? Who would lead it?

Shog9

you ask such funny questions

mmyers

I meant who would be in second place behind Jon Skeet, obviously.

ChrisF

"top 10% this quarter" on SF!

I think it shows your best stat

ircmaxell

Booo, no altruist badge for awarding yourself a bounty?

ChrisF

@ircmaxell No

mmyers

10:34 PM

If you award yourself a bounty, are you really an altruist?

George Marian

@ircmaxell How would that be altruism?

ircmaxell

Yes, since I didn't gain any rep from it

Tim Stone

@ircmaxell Giving selflessly of yourself to yourself, the perfect plan!

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Shog9

masochism != altruism

ircmaxell

No, giving selflessly from myself to nobody

lol

sigh, it didn't attract any better answers...

Hrm, will need to find another question worth a bounty since nobody else contributed

mmyers

10:37 PM

Woot! I am in the top 75% on Server Fault!

Nobody's talking now. I'm sure you're all too busy trembling before my awesomeness, so I'll excuse it.

The Renamed Exception

@mmyers tremble

Sorry I am trying to evaluate my plan before proposing it to our CEO

Moshe

hmm... Thank G-d. This is progressing nicely...

takes a break to shout

@RebeccaChernoff !!! I know you're busy, but I'm waiting on some feedback.

Klaus Byskov Hoffmann

top 1% this quarter on SO (#283 all time). Is "this quarter" somehow deemed better than "all time"?

Tim Stone

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Q: What determines which bracket is shown in your profile?

There's a fancy new link in your profile page that shows when you're in the top X% of some bracket - week, month, quarter, year, and all time. Though, I haven't seen week and year myself. What determines which bracket you're in, though? I originally figured it would be the highest bracket, but t...

support profile-page reputation-leagues

(there's no answer yet, though)

badp's sockpuppet

10:57 PM

/users/stats/rank?userId={id} has the HTML with the rank

It'll have to wait tho.

Shog9

11:25 PM

The dismal science takes up drinking:

0

Q: How to find two separately sourced quantities given a total quantity?

Prompt: A local beer company has two separate breweries (brewery 1 and brewery 2). The marginal cost and average cost functions are given as: MC1 = 80Q1 and ATC1=(500/Q1)+40Q1 for brewery one and MC2=400Q2 and ATC2=(300/Q2)+200Q2 for brewery two. Where Q1 and Q2 are cases of beer. How should the ...