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1:30 AM

@djsmiley2kTMW CMs can still handle them, and relevant automated functions would still work for non-custom flags (e.g. upon multiple spam or rude/abusive flags):

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Q: What are the “spam” and “rude or abusive” (offensive) flags, and how do they work?

When flagging, there are two special case options: spam and rude or abusive. What is spam, and when should I flag content as such? What is considered offensive, rude or abusive content? How does the spam flag differ from the rude or abusive flag? What is the effect of these special flags? When ...

Journeyman Geek

@V2Blast assuming there's a CM looking at the site

there's a ton of sites that have lost all their mods, and precious little manpower on the CM side of things

V2Blast

@JourneymanGeek Well, yes. But I figured that went without saying.

I said "CMs can handle them", not "will handle them", for a reason :P

Journeyman Geek

but flagging is good anyway

it indicates that people are using the site, and hopefully gives a little more weight to the folks who're pushing for more resources to the community.

Or the site gets closed down

which is not good :D

Catija

1:45 AM

We actually have a tool that shows the current flag count on all sites so we can spot check.

Journeyman Geek

Or that :D

(but this is information I did not have)

Catija

I don’t think anyone knows.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija well - its a bit of a perfect storm :/

Rob

I was going to write that on beta sites pre-mod that a CM shows up every couple of days and goes through the site, including handling flags and approving Wiki Tag edits (because everyone's rep is too low to approve), but I couldn't find anything on Meta to support my assertion.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob that wouldn't be inaccurate

on young sites - even SU, CMs are critical in getting the site generally set up

Animuson and others had a huge role in setting the initial site culture on SR.SE, SU pretty much was Jeff's baby in the early days...

Catija

1:59 AM

@Rob That’s a big part of what Robert did.

Rob

We understand that you are short-handed, so now it might take a week, instead of less than 2 days (and rarely 3, previously).

@Catija I asked Jnat if the Wiki Edit privilege could be greatly reduced so the top half dozen users could approve edits instead of waiting for a CM (I didn't fall under the list of included persons, and they were glad to lower the priv.). For flagging that's not going to work. Instead of only "a tool that shows the current flag count" it would be great if it could show a single flag that no one has looked at and is two days old - that would catch orphan flags.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob if its 'simple' flags, maybe

but a lot of flags have nuance and PII. ANd you'd need to see who posted a flag which is both useful and dangerous

Rob

2:17 AM

I did intend to write "single" and the notification would be to a CM, whom can see all that anyways.

It was Catija whom wrote the message, and said that they had a tool; to which I suggested the minor upgrade.

Catija

There's no notifications, though... we have to actually think about checking it.

Two days is... kinda a short time. There's some flags that mods intentionally ignore for a while.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Rob

2:32 AM

Hehe, I thought the ignored flags were waiting to go upstairs.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob ignoring is passive not active :D

Rob

I think it's helpful to tell the user something. Over at CHQ we try to handle complaints immediately and investigate them thoroughly, often for over a half hour and by two to six people. --- Even if we deny the complaint (short of "proof" is a common reason) we are certain to thank them for complaining and encourage them to make more complaints of the same type in future. --- Only if it's clearly "not our department" do we discourage the person. --- Great service and customer satisfaction is

our goal.

It's different elsewhere, here.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob Ideally I'd love a zero inbox policy for flags

in some cases its a developing situation

or we simply don't know what's the best thing to do

Rob

2:51 AM

Here's 'a little bit here, and a little bit there' over a 3 1/2 period culminating in: closing OT, migration rejection, answers deleted, user's other questions deleted, and a custom mod flag for an IP check. --- I'm satisfied and I hope that the person whom complained is too. The person whom wrote the question didn't get their questions deleted because it was "short of suspicious with proof". --- So all sides are hopefully

satisfied (except possibly one of the answerers whom didn't disclose affiliation).

* 3 1/2 hour long period

Catija

@Rob Ah, there's no way to "ignore" a flag... you just don't handle it.

I've long hoped for a way to... dunno... recuse yourself from handling specific flags which would be indicated to the other mods so they know that they should look at it... or a way to "snooze" a flag so that you can hide the flag for a couple of days.

V2Blast

3:17 AM

Kobe Bryant died earlier today in a helicopter crash. According to the NY Times, he and his 13-year-old daughter Gianna were among the 9 people killed in the crash.

The ESPN article also reports that they were on their way to a travel basketball game (for his daughter, I assume), and another player and parent were also on board as well as Orange Coast College baseball coach John Altobelli.

:(

Rob

@Catija A pass the buck button, combined with a "the buck stops here" mechanism; so no one looks like a deer caught in the headlights. :)

There were 11 basketball players and coaches the past 26 days:

Deaths in 2020

The following deaths of notable individuals occurred in 2020. Names are reported under the date of death, in alphabetical order by surname or pseudonym. A typical entry reports information in the following sequence: Name, age, country of citizenship at birth, subsequent nationality (if applicable), what subject was noted for, cause of death (if known), and reference. == January == === 27 === === 26 === Maharaj Kishan Bhan, 72, Indian virologist and pediatrician, cancer. Vsevolod Chaplin, 51, Russian Orthodox clergyman. Nathaniel R. Jones, 93, American attorney, Judge of the Court of ...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

7:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek Spam account: meta.stackexchange.com/users/693288/affel1938

Tinkeringbell

8:05 AM

@V2Blast Who?

(Papers here are full of it too, but as far as I know no-one even plays basketball here)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Netherlands national basketball team

The Netherlands national basketball team (Dutch: Het Nederlands Elftal) represents the Netherlands in international basketball matches. The national team is governed by Basketball Nederland. The Dutch have reached the European Basketball Championship on 15 occasions. Their best results at the event came in 1983, where they finished in fourth place. They have also qualified for the FIBA World Cup once, in 1986. In recent years though, the national team has struggled to maintain consistency to reach major international tournaments. The team represents itself as the Orange Lions. == History... ==

@Tinkeringbell Not quite true.

Mithical

... *sigh*

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I don't think she was being overly literal :D

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