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user310756

12:08 AM

morning @TelKitty

user310756

@SterlingArcher love it!

user202362

@YvetteColomb morning :)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

12:33 AM

@TelKitty @YvetteColomb How likely is it that a peacock will do this? youtube.com/watch?v=Nf86LLun21k

user202362

12:56 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Yeah, I used to have a rooster that I gave to a friend on a farm because it's illegal to keep roosters at where I live. She gave it back to me a few months later because the rooster chased her nephew and caused him to fall, he had a few stitches because of the fall. Fowls can be aggressive. I would not be surprised if peacock is the same.

user310756

1:10 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I don't know how likely, I do know people often misread animal communications. The peacock was telling them to get lost. He opened his wings in a sign of aggression to say "move on" and the parents weren't sensible enough to tell the kids to move away and give him space. I'm so strict with my horses and people get upset with me sometimes, I try to warn people, what can seem cute may be a warning and if a horse turns and kicks you, they can inflict serious damage - or even kill a person

user310756

@TelKitty I have a research scholarship for one year approved in principle

user202362

Awesome!

Journeyman Geek

Peacocks are also ultra territorial and big enough to hurt

user310756

@TelKitty ikr.. applying for a Master of Philosophy - then will apply for PhD - so it's exciting to get a scholarship - takes the pressure of working

user310756

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog hey - post a question on Pets.se and @jour you can answer it!!

Journeyman Geek

1:17 AM

Peacocks aren't pets :p

user310756

well - actually I've known people who've kept them as pets

user310756

and you know I'm always "community building" on my pet pets site (bad pun intended)

user202362

@JourneymanGeek they can be, I was almost tempted to buy one before ... they are not particularly expensive

user310756

@TelKitty maybe they're more popular in Australia?

user310756

as pets I mean

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1:52 AM

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Félix Gagnon-Grenier

2:28 AM

o/

I've no idea what's the stance on sports, but tonight the Vegas Knights made history (yet again) by winning the second rounds of playoffs. I'm very, very hyped.

hey

2:40 AM

morn....ing...

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

2:51 AM

ingdeed

Sterling Archer

@YvetteColomb thank you!

hey

So, Workplace.SE will have election next week...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

4:36 AM

@YvetteColomb In my local San Diego Zoo, they let peafowl roam free throughout the zoo. Is this a good or bad idea in your opinion?

cv-pls specific site: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309935/…

Journeyman Geek

Eh. I'm not sure what would be wrong in using that as a team opportunity

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

What? Peacocks roaming free?

Journeyman Geek

Teaching. Ugh autocucumbered.

Naw the suggested closevote

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Suraj Rao

\o morn

hey

4:48 AM

o/

Anonymous

If you get attacked by a peacock because you refuse to respect its body language it'll probably teach you a valuable lesson that will also pay off in human interaction.

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@YvetteColomb Why are you calling @JourneymanGeek a day?

"jour" is French for "day"

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309942/…

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:31 AM

@AdamLear It shows in the edit history of this post that you removed CW status from it. However, the post still shows as CW on the question page. Why is that?

Same goes for the question: it shows as CW on the question page but there's an edit history item that says CW status was removed: meta.stackexchange.com/q/16054/377214

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:51 AM

Hmm...it seems like Pops and samthebrand were allowed to retain their moderator privileges on Area 51...see area51.meta.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309943/…

Journeyman Geek

extreme caching?

Travis J

@JourneymanGeek You mean hoarding?

Journeyman Geek

plausibly

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

My canned comment for off-topic questions reduces work, because about 10-15% of these questions get voluntarily deleted after I post it

Travis J

It is easier on them if they self delete

Or if they read. Reading is key.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:58 AM

All that said, you've given me some interesting insight into a distressing phenomenon where lots of new users somehow get the idea that experienced users routinely close- or down-vote questions just because they don't personally know the answer. — Nathan Tuggy 34 mins ago

Travis J

He is just discovering this?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@TravisJ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Grief - best to have them move straight to the Acceptance stage.

Travis J

Also, with regards to that question in particular... the SO question associated with that complaint had both marc_s and Gordon Linoff look at it. Assuming they don't know the answer is not an option.

That would be like assuming the earth is flat.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog heh

hah

as someone observed. I hate canned comments ;p

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog until someone complains its impolite

Travis J

Angrily or sadly complaining though? Like, are we at step 2 or 4?

The main problem with canned comments is that so many people get them wrong.

That so many users use canned comments just makes it obvious there should be more provided by SE itself, and that custom ones should perhaps not be allowed.

I think the specific one you used in that situation is okay @Sonic, but I have seen a lot of really bad ones.

Journeyman Geek

6:23 AM

^^^^

@TravisJ even the SE provided ones...

have issues

like when you get 3-4 identical or near identical comments off review

Can I get some feedback/do a shameless plug on a MSO post?

Travis J

Ugh, yeah...the review comments. Or worse, when review gets it wrong and uses a canned comment.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Travis J

I have already read all mSO posts. I will reread though, which one?

user5389107

morning

user359686

morning

Travis J

6:24 AM

jinx!

Journeyman Geek

0

A: Recourse for inappropriate Stack Overflow chat conversation

Long time room owner, chat user and SU mod here (and if It is who I think it is - I actually had a talk with Anil over twitter over the subject). I'm pondering a longer post on MSE where it belongs but I'd like to bring up a few points. In my experience, effective chat moderation is about buildi...

Sorry its so long

but ugh, I don't like the narrative people are trying to put in place

Suraj Rao

We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the worlds been turning

user5389107

@JourneymanGeek I think the "straight to twitter" is why ultimately nothing useful will come of it

The community was and feels bypassed. If anything people are going to be less accomodating out of pure spite

Maybe we get some better chat moderation tools out of it, though

Journeyman Geek

@SurajRao @user5389107 true

but I don't think "victim blaming" will win us any friends

"pure spite" is kinda the real enemy? ;p

user5389107

I'm not happy with this development at all

@JourneymanGeek The problem is when you treat people like the enemy, they'll act the part

Journeyman Geek

6:30 AM

shrug

Its happened

@user5389107 why?

I mean, sure they will

user5389107

That's the "pure spite" part

user202362

I wonder whether key SE people are now feeling retarded because of the backlash from community

Journeyman Geek

but what's wrong with trying to encourage folks to actually take the high road?

Travis J

@JourneymanGeek 6 minutes ago? Okay, you got me, I hadn't read that yet. I am rather familiar with that room though, I was an RO there for a few days a loong time ago, but really I am happy that my name isn't associated with the content regularly in there.

user5389107

@JourneymanGeek Nothing, but in these matters, tone is everything

You can either get someone on board or react negatively out of pure spite to the same situation just depending on the tone you take when reacting

user202362

6:32 AM

I would call it 'drama of SE' and would not take it seriously

Journeyman Geek

@TelKitty See here's the thing. Folk are going to feel more smug if we arn't inconveniently sensible.

Travis J

@JourneymanGeek - To be honest, there is nothing you can say that will influence that room.

user202362

@JourneymanGeek users aren't retarded

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ I'm not trying to influence that room

Travis J

So, I commend your effort, but I hope you don't expect results :D

Journeyman Geek

6:32 AM

So... here's the impresssion I get.

@TravisJ I'm basically picking apart the narrative that chat is a lawless wasteland that needs to burn

Travis J

Yeah, I saw that. But, the sad truth is that SO chat is regulated in the first and second level by users who have such thick skins that they are never offended. None of the normal flagging paths work, and the talk it out usually just means passive aggressive dismissal.

Journeyman Geek

heh. Maybe things work better for us on SE?

or do I just have really nice fellow chat users.

Travis J

Oh yeah, way different ball game.

There is a palpable sense of intensity in the SO chat rooms. At least, in the main ones.

And that is on a normal quiet day, without all this other stuff going on.

user202362

Now I need to think very hard: whether to continue this conversation in regards to the drama or should I go out to buy items needed to make a better track for the autonomous (toy) car ...

Journeyman Geek

Also, I've been on chat so long I think people panic if I'm not around

@TelKitty the latter ;p

the conversation will likely go on a while

user202362

6:37 AM

I think I have been too much of a cheapskate and this slowed down my progress (mail delivery for cheap components etc)

Journeyman Geek

hah lol

I can relate

user202362

@JourneymanGeek that's what I am going to do then :D

user5389107

@JourneymanGeek Picking apart a narrative, once supported by the company, is very difficult to do

Best of luck to you

Travis J

@JourneymanGeek - In general, chat moderation has 1) social responses, 2) RO actions (kickmute/move message), 3) message flagging, 4) custom mod flag, 5) main site flag on a post, 6) contact us email. That is it. As far as 1 goes at SO, as noted above. 2 is often not agreed upon by everyone, and causes bickering between RO's, especially if a user is being prevented from chatting.

3) sends a bat signal to anyone in SO chat that is 10k to come and try at #1 again, but this never helps, moreover, the flag is almost always declined. 4) Enter an actual mod with a message like "cool down" and some minor hand waving... it is just chat after all who really cares? 5) it never gets past mod, 6) I have never seen it get to this from my experience evar.

As an RO at Stack Overflow, your hands are tied. Not only do you have limited tools, but no one has the time to understand the context of the history from what happened. The lack of understanding leads to very easy dismissal from not only mods but other RO's and especially users from other rooms who really aren't terribly interested and mostly came for the popcorn.

There are real conversations about content that take place, but since those are so few and far between, the material that fills in the gaps can be quite crude. The level of how crude it gets is seemingly an art form between not looking terrible enough to get banned while just pushing the boundary of "wtf".

I am honestly not convinced there is a solution to this problem without radical changes to the design of chat moderation.

hey

(waiting Travis J to finish the stream of thought...)

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Travis J

(done, thanks though) :P

hey

Well, anyway... I just read this... Programmers are having a huge debate over whether they should be required to behave respectfully to each other (hint: it's not about SO)

Travis J

This is about SO isn't it.

> it is critical to the long term health of the project that we preserve an inclusive community.

of any project imo

user5389107

This is one of the ways it can end though

Travis J

While students of the 80's and 90's may have been primarily White men, that is no longer the case. A next generation of wonderful people are entering programming, and since programming in general has gained wild popularity in the past decade, they are coming from all walks of life. Turning a blind eye towards that is just asking for failure.

user5389107

6:57 AM

SE can't expect to be pushing an ideology (good or bad is up to inviduals to decide) and not lose people who don't follow that

Travis J

It isn't just SE.

It is congress. It is parliament. It is small. It is large. The idea of being less toxic is a movement, not a blog post by Jay.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Before home computers became widespread, CS used to attract both men and women equally.

Many of these women went on to change the history of CS, e.g. Admiral Grace Hopper.

user5389107

@TravisJ SE chose to bring itself into it

Well maybe it wasn't entirely voluntary

Travis J

SE has 4 million users.

user5389107

The outcome is the same. If you take an ideological stance, you'll alienate everyone who doesn't share it.

Travis J

7:01 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Not to say there weren't many very important women in CS history, there were. Ada is one of my favorites personally. However, I wouldn't exactly call it historically equal. You would need to some heavily lifting to convince me of that.

user5389107

In this debate there's no room at all for "agree to disagree" it's "accept it or get out"

Travis J

@user5389107 Be nice is a fundamental part of the site. If "agree to disagree" means violating the "be nice" agreement, then whose responsible?

user5389107

@TravisJ The debate isn't about "Be nice" itself. Nobody argues for a right to be purposely hurtful to people

It's about what is considered as "un-nice" and people disagree fiercely on that

Travis J

So it is about the line between almost violating the be nice policy, and actually violating the be nice policy?

user5389107

@TravisJ People don't percieve it that way

This is why this conversation is flat out impossible to have on the internet, nobody agrees on the premises

Travis J

7:08 AM

...we don't have to hash out disagreements.

All we have to do is find where everyone agrees.

There are plenty of people who agree on the premise that building a community requires being inclusive.

On not being rude or belittling.

user5389107

@TravisJ Right but plenty =/= all

One of the things SE has consciously accepted means that a part of the community will be leaving over this

Travis J

wow, didn't expect that response.

So there is disagreement in the community, that being inclusive helps build community?

user5389107

I'm not arguing either way personally I'm in favor of more inclusitivty

Suraj Rao

user5389107

Yes

Suraj Rao

7:09 AM

sample convo^

where is rude?

Travis J

And as a result, they are leaving? I mean, that isn't on us. That is on them.

user5389107

@TravisJ Have you ever had this discussion anywhere online?

The mere mention of inclusivity poisons the discussion utterly

Travis J

Person A: We should bring in Matt.
Person B: F that, if Matt comes in I am leaving.
Who is in the wrong here?

user5389107

context dependant

If matt is the coworker who never does anything and spreads misery to every office he goes then person B might be in the right

Travis J

Man, there is so many things wrong with that assumption.

user5389107

7:12 AM

Which is why I said context dependant

Travis J

I don't even think there is any point in discussing this topic with you.

user5389107

@TravisJ I would be person B if matt is a well known fascist

Am I in the wrong there?

You can't be inclusive to everyone. Certain people and spheres of interest are incompatible with each other.

Travis J

@SurajRao That looks like two people who don't primarily speak English being rather curt towards each other. I wouldn't go full blown rude, but neither one should be called polite.

user5389107

@SurajRao An example why having bad tone to your useful and well meaning comment can make all the difference in how it'S percieved

Suraj Rao

@user5389107 how would one show a bad tone in comments without actually hearing the tone? It becomes more of perception of the listener and their mindset

user5389107

7:20 AM

@SurajRao Partially, but you can help that perception by being a bit outwardly friendly and not using accusatory language

Sample: "Yes, and my issue is just that it closes to early for no understandable reason" The primary way to find this out is by using a debugger - it lets you step through your code instruction by instruction and you can easily find the breaking point using that. The majority of dev work is actually fixing issues with complicated causes, so a debugger is an essential tool for any developer to utilize"

Suraj Rao

Maybe to a degree this is a factor. But, these people should really learn to take criticism

user5389107

What newcomers "should do" is unhelpful

Suraj Rao

sigh

user5389107

We have next to no influence on the state of mind of newcomers, but we have complete control over our own responses. If you can steer someone to positive behavior with little effort, where's the harm?

2

If you approach the situation from the "what is fair" angle you'll end up in despair in this world. The only thing you can really control in any given moment is your own response, and sometimes, even (to you) trivial changes in tone can have drastic influence on the outcome. So if you want a new user to react positively and take criticism into account, one of the best ways to do that is to appear friendly

I think that's the essence of why SE is asking the regulars to change instead of new users - the regulars SE has some control over, new users it doesn't even a little

Journeyman Geek

7:35 AM

That's kinda what I'm working towards

user5389107

@TravisJ ITT reading back to it - That was not a commentary about the SE context - I was purely nitpicking your theorethical scenario there Travis

Maybe that came across poorly

Suraj Rao

alright... Sometimes it feels like yanking teeth trying to deal with them. But I guess it would be a test for SOers as communicators .

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ utterly no disagreement there

Suraj Rao

good discussion @user5389107

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ eh, kinda odd that I feel main chat works differently

but most time we have external mod intervention, I had a chat later

I guess we have more mods?

Discrete lizard

7:41 AM

@user5389107 The bonus is that if the newcomer still continuously uses an attacking/rude tone even though you're being polite in the entire conversation, it is easier to see that any further conversation is pointless. That makes it easier for me to emotionally distance myself from any rude/nasty conversation.

Journeyman Geek

I've also considered chat moderation a long term project. And I'm and oldschool IRC person

@Discretelizard Pretty much that being nice, polite and in control lets us let folk who want to cause trouble spend themselves out

or to put it another way

Discrete lizard

@JourneymanGeek I fail to parse this sentence. Could you rephrase it?

Suraj Rao

@Discretelizard think it should read send themselves out

Discrete lizard

@SurajRao It's more the 'lets us let' part that confuses me.

user5389107

@Discretelizard I'm so firmly in the "I can modulate my response and nothing else" camp because I've learned that the really hard way

Derpy

7:49 AM

@JourneymanGeek I'm flagging this as "user is bulling @bjb568"..... ok, sorry, just joking.

user5389107

I'm not a natural when it comes to social interactions, so I used to get really frustrated when I meant well and people didn't take it that way

While in reality I was probably just acting like a giant jerk a lot of the time

@JourneymanGeek This is really effective against people who want to cause trouble because you're beating them at their own game and they'll be bored and miserable and leave if noone falls for the bait

Derpy

...meta2.mp3 - there is an audio cue when you click on an user? was that added recently? Guess I'll have to add a noScript rule to kill this prompt.

ah, ok, it is part of the script used for the message notification alert.

user310756

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog yep got that lol. it was a lazy mouse/keyboard situation LOL

user5389107

@yve I'm curious, where are you keeping all these horses?

Do you have a ranch?

user310756

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I think it's a great idea. Many zoos will let birds run free

user310756

8:02 AM

@user5389107 I rent someone's land. There's quite a few acres.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@YvetteColomb I sometimes see peacocks enter enclosures for flamingos and other animals

user5389107

Being chased across the zoo by an emu eager to get what's in that feeding bag you're holding is one of my fondest memorys

There's a zoo with free roaming animals you can feed near me it's amazing

Suraj Rao

I thought you are generally discouraged from feeding zoo animals?

user5389107

They sell feed bags at the zoo

You can only use those

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@user5389107 I was traveling in Mahabaleshwar, India, in a place where there were a lot of monkeys, who were skilled at stealing sweet snacks from tourists by scaring them. One stole a sealed tin with snacks, but was unable to open it and just left it.

user5389107

8:05 AM

So the zoo itself is free but you can buy $1 feed bags to feed to the animals

user310756

a pelican grabbed my son's entire arm when he was 5 to take his chip

user310756

at a zoo

user5389107

I used to use most of my allowance there everytime I went

user310756

@user5389107 aw that's so sweet

user310756

are you Mags?

user5389107

8:06 AM

yes

user310756

curse your generci username

Journeyman Geek

@user5389107 quite!

user310756

hey the foals are going really well and my mare is still pregnant

user5389107

1.98 horse

user310756

yes!

user310756

8:09 AM

I was talking to a uni lecturer while I was at the paddock, he asked how many I had I said 6.95 possibly 6.98

user310756

lol

Derpy

8:39 AM

It's just me or Shog reply here sounds a little sarcastic/annoyed?... probably just me.

user5389107

Or... OR... We could do the Twitter thing and only notify you about your "likes" if you haven't visited the site in a while. ENGAGEMENT! FUNNELS! CALLS TO ACTION! ...sorry, lost my head there for a moment. No, we should absolutely not notify you about any of this crap. — Shog9 ♦ May 1 at 21:23

My money's on yes

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@user5389107 @Derpy Nope, just Shog being Shog.

user5389107

I wonder if shog's inner monologue is a standup comedy routine

I would pay money to see a standup comedy routine by shog is what I'm saying

Discrete lizard

@Derpy I cannot read minds (Although some think I believe I can. At least they cannot read minds), but the situation seems to be: constant bickering over the blog-post and then there's this one, who manages to get an entirely new thing from the blog-post to argue about. Given this context, I think Shog's behaviour is understandable.

user5389107

If it's not sarcasm it's still well done and entertaining

Mithrandir

8:49 AM

@Discretelizard meh, i think it's worth pointing out if they mentioned it

Discrete lizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Is it? From reading Shog's posts, I generally see 2 modes: 1) nice and polite Shog 2) angry Shog. While I don't know if Shog allows actual emotions to dictate posts, Shog does come off as irritated or annoyed at times.

user5389107

I've never seen him actually aggressive just firm and sometimes angry

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Discretelizard He does. There are several examples of both types in my conversations with him.

Discrete lizard

@user5389107 Is angry better?

user5389107

@Discretelizard yes

Mithrandir

8:52 AM

ime, there are three states of shog: 1.) polite 2.) pissed off 3.) drunk

(to be taken not entirely seriously)

Discrete lizard

@Mithrandir Oh, I don't mean it shouldn't be pointed out. Just that it is a situation where I could imaging myself to be pissed off.

In a 'not this again' way.

But well, as I said, I cannot read minds.

Mithrandir

...hmm, so apparently WHERE UPPER(Text) LIKE cute matches duplicate and execute too

user5389107

@Mithrandir concluding with the quantum state of shog: you don't know if he's angry, but when you observe the state (i.E provoke a response) his response changes to angry

@Mithrandir WHERE UPPER(Text) LIKE '% cute%'

Mind the space before the after the %

Derpy

my point is that the post was about the "include / exclude thanks in post", something that has come up as an argument multiple times in the past, with people claiming that is part of the "unwelcome aura" SE has.
That reply somehow has the vibes of "They included that in the post I don't agree but otherwise the kids will go cry on twitter. But again I state, that it probably just me,

Mithrandir

@user5389107 danke

this isn't getting very many sexist comments, but it is getting some odd stuff like this:

I know this isn't helpful but your little prairie dogs are so cute and I want to squeeze them — user4343502 Mar 31 at 20:42

user5389107

9:00 AM

@Mithrandir just someone fawning over avatar pictures, I suppose

I must say the prairie dog avatar picture is quite nice :)

Discrete lizard

@Mithrandir The comic in that question looks nice. Needs a bit of inking, but the concepts are visualised well.

Mithrandir

...wat

user5389107

9:23 AM

I see you too have unlocked the fun from using sql to search so comments

Mithrandir

indeed

user5389107

@Mithrandir vtc too broad

and ancient too

Derpy

@user5389107 wait... you two started a rude comment burination crusade and didn't invite me?

user5389107

using extremely rudimentary keyword search in SEDE hardly qualifies, but alas

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Journeyman Geek

._.

@Derpy that's uncouth ;p

Mithrandir

talk about self deprecating

this is slightly depressing

rene

Can we refrain from posting all the stuff we rather see to be deleted? If you want to collect examples of stuff to flag do so in a secret gist or so that you can update and/or share without being a possible flag target here.

Mithrandir

@rene Sure. Feel free to remove it.

(not blue here, can't remove my own stuff... jarring)

rene

The only benefit for sharing it here would be if you want a second opinion which is OK of course. Still prefer not have it one-boxed, just a link if relevant

Journeyman Geek

9:48 AM

lol

Can we chimney it for now?

rene

@JourneymanGeek yeah let's do that /cc @Catija @hichris123

Derpy

Any clue about this username? Seems some sort of spam / attempt to add a link??

Journeyman Geek

→ 15 messages moved to Chimney

ugh

stupid vpn

hey

11:01 AM

@Mithrandir probably because some of us (and others) have done that and hunted (read: flagged) those comments...

even though it made less visible data for public, it's for the best of us... and mods/SE staffs should still be able to log those comments this as proof

@rene @JourneymanGeek do old messages need to be pruned too? I remember some...

(good, another hidden feature: searching "quote" on chat returned all messages with quote block)

Princess Luna

Translated it looks like spam. I've watched the domain just in case

Derpy

@PrincessLuna thanks

Derpy

11:43 AM

.... Hello Neighbor has a "musical" version. ARGH.

rene

12:05 PM

@hey if you have stuff that you want us to look at, share a link (careful with one-boxing if you do)

Catija

@rene I'm pretty sure I asked people not to let bad comments one-box on Friday... so I'm good with that.

rene

Yeah, better warn an extra time

Maybe we need to write a decent short message that we can PIN?

John Dvorak

Potentially Interesting Notification?

user5389107

@Catija I remember you asking me, yes.

hey

I remember this and this. Feel free to purge this message after "no longer needed" :)

Catija

12:09 PM

@rene That would work.

hey

afk, on mobile..

Catija

Please refrain from posting flaggable comment content in here, either in plain text or one-boxes. Links are fine but we don't need a permanent record of the not nice stuff we find in comments long after they've been deleted.

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Princess Luna

@Derpy And it's awesome :D

rene

@Catija awesome, thanks

Derpy

@PrincessLuna I don't know what to think about that game. To me, it seems another good idea executed very poorly. The latest leaks about the final "secret" ending do only reinforce this idea.

Princess Luna

12:20 PM

/shrug

I just like the song :D

Derpy

I got it. I just meant that the plot of that game doesn't seem to make sense at all IMHO, so I am not surprised if someone made a music video that shows the situation from the neighbor point of view.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

A first I've seen: an author of a blatantly off-topic question edits their question into a completely different, still blatantly off-topic question: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309954/…

user5389107

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog definitely sarcasm right?

This is common enough on SO to have its own term

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@user5389107 But it's rare to happen on Meta.

@user5389107 No, I'm (nearly) always literal.

user5389107

hm

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

12:35 PM

And a pedant.

@Shadow @rene chaos-emerald-pls Please add meta.stackexchange.com/questions/247501/… to the duplicate list of meta.stackexchange.com/questions/190360/…

(sorry, wrong link earlier)

chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/193365/… (@Shadow)

Princess Luna

Does SEDE have REGEXP_LIKE?

user194636

No, it's SQL Server

yagmoth555

imo not a dupe, one is a feature request, to allow flag on locked question, the other a discussion for the why

Princess Luna

oh, that was oracle

Still can't get just REGEXP to work

user194636

Doesn't have that either. Just LIKE

Princess Luna

12:49 PM

dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/regexp.html#operator_regexp

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Why does moving air feel cold? by tina singh on engineering.SE

Princess Luna

@PaulWhite So TL;DR: no regex?

user194636

@PrincessLuna Exactly so. I did request full text search once but ... crickets

user194636

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Q: Add Full-Text Search and Semantic Search to Data Explorer

Can SQL Server Full-Text Search and Semantic Search be added to Stack Exchange Data Explorer? Much of the textual data is difficult to query using T-SQL alone (impossible, if one hits a time out). Adding Full-Text Search and Semantic Search would allow for more powerful analysis, and make some ...

user194636

Not that that would do what regex search does anyway, but hey

user194636

12:51 PM

What sort of search are you looking to perform?

Princess Luna

Finding possibly toxic/offensive comments

user194636

Ah poor old SEDE being hammered by such queries lately

user202362

I blame the whole series of events on this, some people are too envy to accept a happy ever after ending ... >_<

user194636

I wonder if there has been any attempt to coordinate such efforts on a meta anywhere

Princess Luna

@PaulWhite Nope

Journeyman Geek

12:55 PM

Would that be in the data dump too?

Comments that is

user194636

Yep yep

Princess Luna

Wow

6400 comments on the first keyword

user194636

The download is quite large though.

user5389107

@TelKitty That is almost violently cute, I'm suing you for emotional distress

Princess Luna

@PaulWhite Never too late to start? :D

user194636

12:57 PM

Took me about 20 mins at 200Mbps and then another half hour or so to decompress.

user202362

@user5389107 as long as you don't flag me for it

hey

Most comments on data dump would probably be... expired, since the blog post...

user194636

Why oh why SE/SO chose case-sensitive collation :(

user194636

Comments should cost rep

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