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@ShadowWizard genetic (?)

@FOX9000 illness

6:04 AM

@ShadowWizard disorder (?)

@FOX9000 mental

@ShadowWizard diagnostic (?)

Anonymous

StackOverflow chat is indeed a troubling place. https://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89/2018/5/1/12-21 I'm not even sure I understand the implication being made about me here, but I get the gist, and "welcoming" it is not.

Tweeted by aprilwensel on May 2, 2018 at 4:39 AM

Anonymous

Communicate with care.

6:21 AM

came here, read what's hot on meta

its still the same damn blog post

another thing I noticed is, they are saying that there are less women, so lets do something about it

I wonder what?

They should watch Jordan Peterson interview

if they think reservation (or something on those lines) will increase the head count

6:46 AM

@DroidDev LMFAO XD

That reminds me of a movie "Ek tha Tiger" @Dro

yeah, lol, except I don't like Salman Khan very much to even remotely equate him with anyone from army

Just go by the title Man

It is one of my glorious pun

7:14 AM

yeah, in that way, its just great and I liked it

@user1114 XD

@PrincessLuna ford (?)

@user1114 Dafuq!

@Dro What do you think about this "April" gal ? What are the chances what she is talking about are real ?

I mean, there must be something otherwise why would someone go that far or does she just want to be famous ?

@TheLittleNaruto I think that will be her very legitimate case of sexism on SO

just watch it go there

well...there's nothing we can do about it

gotta go with it, or leave the place if it becomes too "unwelcoming" for "us"

7:29 AM

True

False

boolean

@TheLittleNaruto it's real in the sense that SE gets tons of emails and contact form like "I was bullied!", "I was called n00b!", "I got my question nuked and it's a gooood question!" etc... and all of this really happens. Question is how much, which I think is very little. (We don't see those comments since they're all deleted at some point)

7:49 AM

@TheLittleNaruto binary integer

8:23 AM

@ShadowWizard Should we keep account of these "very little" things ?

@PrincessLuna very nice

@TheLittleNaruto you mean those who abuse? No.

@ShadowWizard Yes

@TheLittleNaruto impatiently (?)

@ShadowWizard if No, how to solve such issue ?

@TheLittleNaruto nuke the bullies sooner, i.e. give suspensions after 1-2 rude comments, not 100-200 like today.

8:32 AM

@ShadowWizard I see.

Suggest it on Meta. Shadow

By "rude" I mean really rude, e.g. "You are useless n00b, go get a different job!", not comments like "-1 for not sharing code".

@ShadowWizard That's understandable

(so it can't be automatic in response to flags, as both are flagged)

@TheLittleNaruto afraid to get burned.

Or we can come up with some AI which will do the job for us ?

where is it...

8:34 AM

@ShadowWizard Why ? I think you'll be putting fair point

@TheLittleNaruto I'll raise all SO bullies on myself.... too heavy. ;)

In my 15-odd years of participating in online forums and chat rooms, this is the first time someone has tried to provide those stats to justify their chat room not being so cancerous. "Look, we greet and thank each other all the time, that means our room is well-moderated!" Please, toxic people greet and thank each other all the time too. — BoltClock ♦ Oct 13 '17 at 2:23

literally in love with first line of this comment. ROFL

?

@Bolt is minor, better not falling in love with him, ya know. :P

I think, or is he 20-ish by now?

@DroidDev LMAO

@TheLittleNaruto lol (?)

8:38 AM

@ShadowWizard hehe

@TheLittleNaruto hihi (?)

@FOX9000 hoho

@ShadowWizard huhu (?)

@FOX9000 haha

@ShadowWizard island (?)

8:38 AM

whaaaat

rofl

>>islink haha island

@ShadowWizard No, that's not a link.

@DroidDev Never read that comment, might be possible because of how frustrated we were at that time. LOL

OMG

@FOX9000 That's completely unrelated.

23 secs ago, by Shadow Wizard

OMG

8:40 AM

:O

@DroidDev Yeah, me too. Did you catch rekire's post on chat moderation?

@ShadowWizard I am smelling another screenshot being posted to twitter handle of some particular one, with inferred meanings, that can clearly be dismissed with some common sense :P

@FOX9000 Of course it isn't, it's a land of ice :p

@PrincessLuna no, I mostly read around comments and try to get the idea of long posts, if it doesn't catch me in first two/three sentences. So, not much meta reading for me ;)

@DroidDev hmm?

8:42 AM

2 hours ago, by user1114

StackOverflow chat is indeed a troubling place. https://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89/2018/5/1/12-21 I'm not even sure I understand the implication being made about me here, but I get the gist, and "welcoming" it is not.

Tweeted by aprilwensel on May 2, 2018 at 4:39 AM

so, I am smelling another one of same thing happening

@ShadowWizard lol makes sense. Agree.

@DroidDev Hoomans -_-

First bounty in my entire career of SO. Should I die feeling pride ?

@DroidDev huh! Missed that! lol

@TheLittleNaruto sure

@ShadowWizard abe (?)

8:45 AM

>> help abe

@TheLittleNaruto The command you want to look up does not exist.

@TheLittleNaruto Lol, your first?

@PrincessLuna Yeah Man

@TheLittleNaruto plus, it means taking active part in this thing, which I'm not ready for yet. Ranting in chat is easier for now. :)

>>define abe

@ShadowWizard No entries found for that word.

8:46 AM

@ShadowWizard haha right

@ShadowWizard My guess is April's checking chat and looking for any kind of references about her in order to find something to go and rant on Twitter about

I have got a quiz question for you guys

@TheLittleNaruto The answer is 42

@Sha @Dro @Pri

Where do you see that?

8:49 AM

~~Damn it, Are you doubting on my question creativity ?~~

KennyBOT

~ Not everything is star-worthy...

I think I was rude to @pri

@TheLittleNaruto lol!

OH MY GOD, @THELITTLENARUTO IS SO DAMN RUDE! :p

xP

8:51 AM

I SHALT FLAG EVERYTING AND GO RANT ON TWITTER!!

lol

Yes! LOL

Did I forget something?

Right

@TheLittleNaruto I AM OFFENDED!!!

lol

hehe Bring your supporters and raise a meta post.

Yes; I'll create an ARMY of twitter ranters and make sure your account gets nuked! :p

Damn it my username is same on Twitter as well :D

hides

8:56 AM

@TwitterArmy Spam @thelittlenaruto into oblivion!! :p

lol

scared

I can see 3 notifications on my Twitter account, but I am too scared to check. Shivering...

XD

I read a comment on MSO somewhere, which was one these lines "its 2000's, and everyone is getting offended over something". I really liked it, and that lady in this case is the extreme case of same thing, who just got lots of "offended feelers" (I think), as her followers. LOL

as one of my favorite comedians once rightly said:

4

KennyBOT

~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?

@KennyBOT Dude you should have posted first ~ Not everything star worthy"

@DroidDev It fits in anything Man.

9:08 AM

@TheLittleNaruto jaja, that's the beauty of it. Also, there are lots of offended people walking around to fit this onto

@DroidDev LOL true.

ain't no shortage of offended people in 2000s

@DroidDev Who is this guy btw ?

Guys we have got ai.stackexchange.com site as well. It's in Beta atm. Let's join.

1940s : I am 19, I have fought in war, killed preempteen guys, got shot twice, crawled through mud, ate leaves to stay alive while in jungle warfare, called airstrike on myself, defeated chuk norris in date of birth contest, traveled across oceans to fight a war. Apart from that, life is going good, its just fine. I'll do.

2000s: I am offended, somebody called me a moron. This is very depressing, I can't deal with it anymore. Somebody pleazzz halpp!!

@TheLittleNaruto I'm already there.

I'm on 178 sites or something

9:13 AM

@DroidDev 2018s: Rant on Twitter

George Carlin - God loves you!

@TheLittleNaruto well....just watch :

►

you'll come to know ;)

@PrincessLuna lol

@TheLittleNaruto That word is already said in the latest 10 words. Please use another. (In case I'm mistaken, run >>rmword lol and then >>reply 6913202)

@TheLittleNaruto and now you have 4!! #CauseAScene :p

@TheLittleNaruto ...and fb, and whatsapp status. Adopt just about any way possible to get attention, then tell everyone how you don't get it and feel sad about any random reason (like my neighbor's sister's dog died before I was born. I am so depressed)

9:15 AM

@DroidDev "But He loves you." LMFAO

@TheLittleNaruto hahaha, see

Awesome! Totally loved it. :D

@PrincessLuna D:

@TheLittleNaruto he has many other these kind of videos. One is about political correctness also

@DroidDev Will watch them tonight.

@TheLittleNaruto :>

9:20 AM

has anyone done this yet https://t.co/27Dq0MVpL5

Tweeted by tomality on April 30, 2018 at 3:41 PM

Oh no!! I have a Twitter notification! Panics

:p

^^

I haven't used twitter in ages >.>

wonders if room's description will also go under scanner someday as being offensive to some particular category of people

We should change the room description to this, "We're good people, Join to play only WAG game."

Just to be in safe side.

9:26 AM

Yeah we should, because I AM OFFENDED!! xP

well...this is also offensive, WAG -> Wives and Girlfriends. How can you play that game here?

:1 gf

@PrincessLuna berserk does not have one (?)

>>rmword gf

@PrincessLuna Word removed from latest words.

9:26 AM

:1 gf

@PrincessLuna Naruto does not have one (?)

@PrincessLuna Hey You, Yes You! Rant on Twitter.

runs away

stabs @pri 4 times from back.

@DroidDev That can also be interpreted as Wondering Adult Games

WAGs

WAGs (or Wags) is an acronym used to refer to Wives And Girlfriends of high-profile sportspersons. The term may also be used in the singular form, WAG, to refer to a specific female partner or life partner who is in a relationships with an athlete. The term was first used by the British tabloid press to refer to the wives and girlfriends of high-profile footballers, originally the England national football team. It came into common use during the 2006 FIFA World Cup, although the term had been used occasionally before that. The acronym has since been used by the media in other countries to describe...

@TheLittleNaruto ^^

> the more you know

9:29 AM

dafuq! It ~~was~~ is real

Wow

@DroidDev pfft, others already said that years ago.....

Jan 22 '15 at 19:51, by Stijn

> WAGs (or Wags) is an acronym used to refer to wives and girlfriends of high-profile sportsmen.

:D

@Stijn yo! Long time no Den! ;)

So are there any high-profile sportsmen here?

@ShadowWizard yeah, lol, that's only why I knew that, but my searching skills ain't as good as yours, so I just quoted that again here :P

lol

9:36 AM

@PrincessLuna definition of "high-profile" is relative, so I AM OFFENDED!!!!

You being offended offends me!! I AM OFFENDED!!!

I AM OFFENDED!!!

well....since you italicized the bold text, and mine isn't italicized, I guess you might be more offended than me

> More power to keyboard warriors!!!

I might be more offended than you????

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panics

runs around in circles while pulling hair and screaming

9:44 AM

CHAOS! PANIC! RANT ON META! RANT ON TWITTER! RANT EVERYWHEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

goes into depression mode

goes quiet

It's really funny seeing several irate meta.stackoverflow discussions about the "be welcoming" blog post get closed as duplicates. Honestly, people. Is that any way to welcome those folks to meta? Gosh!

Tweeted by codinghorror on May 1, 2018 at 10:39 AM

LMFAO

which is why I like the guy, apart from my immense respect for him

What? He's still around????

Never occured to me he's even reading SO/MSO

@ShadowWizard Yeah

9:49 AM

@PrincessLuna hands (?)

>>explainlink Yeah hands

@PrincessLuna Words not linked.

:6913295 Words not linked.

haha, Fox is offended :P

??

@DroidDev FOX IS OFFENDED?!?!?

@DroidDev Ok let's check

@FOX9000 gf

9:50 AM

@TheLittleNaruto That word is already said in the latest 10 words. Please use another. (In case I'm mistaken, run >>rmword gf and then >>reply 6913302)

LMFAO

:P

Damn it's true. cc @sha

>>rmword gf

@PrincessLuna 1 argument expected, 0 given

:1 gf

9:51 AM

@PrincessLuna Word removed from latest words.

:1 gf

@PrincessLuna TheLittleNaruto does not have one (?)

bwahahahaha

@PrincessLuna 2 arguments expected, 6 given.

@PrincessLuna Link added.

What link? I don't know what you're talking about!

9:55 AM

@PrincessLuna books. Probably the scan algorithm ignores punctuation, so if there is sentence ending with "hands", then the next sentence starts with "Yeah", the words get linked. :)

eh

e.g. redeemingqualities.wordpress.com/2011/05/06/…

> Also, he’s fabulously wealthy. And magnetic. Metal things are attracted to his hands. Yeah.

10:33 AM

Eh

10:51 AM

@PrincessLuna I seriously consider creating twitter account and reply to April, since I'm in the middle of it now.... they mentioned transgender being offended from the chat culture in the thread, is this OK if I'll mention you as example of... something good around here, to counter attack them? (This is really all still far, not sure I'll do any of this anyway)

@ShadowWizard I would suggest to ask him privately

^

@TheLittleNaruto well too late for that, but she can reply in private. :)

@ShadowWizard Now there is no point to reply in private. He can reply in chat as well.

@ShadowWizard You can mention me if you need to ^^

owo

11 people in the room

This is my 11th tab

11:01 AM

@PrincessLuna Why can't we have person like this human ?

@TheLittleNaruto huh?

I want to give you a award of being so open about your gender stuff. @Pri

:)

stabs @Pri 5 times

xD

Lol

Watch it @TheLittleNaruto!! I am offended and shall go rant on twitter!! :P

11:07 AM

Damn it! Twitter became a scary place now-a-days.

@PrincessLuna :)

well....ain't that the trend these days?

Deletes my account on Twitter.

@TheLittleNaruto you should instead rant about others ranting about you

:P

@TheLittleNaruto count me in! :D

11:08 AM

then there will be inlined threaded ranting

@DroidDev Good suggestion

OMG, wonders how long before he will need next screen to keep reading inlined ranting thread

Ranting about ranting about ranting about ranting about ranting. XD

@ShadowWizard you have an account now? :D

link-pls

@PrincessLuna not yet... will share when I create.

..if I create.

This might be bigger than me.

K

11:27 AM

Y

Y Y?

X X!

I W XX :3

3: XX W I

3 != XXWI

11:39 AM

IWXX > !3

@ShadowWizard well....if you are ready for potential bashing from all of those followers of her on twitter (remember, twitter is a mobocracy, whoever got more head count wins). But still, its just a may or may not thing

@ShadowWizard if that happens, I'll come help

@PrincessLuna Just you can't make mobocracy thingy

also, the language and tone you convey yourself with, matters (upto some point)

Yes, it may get interpreted into something else while you wanted to convey something else.

11:50 AM

just see the case in point, SO has so many newbies now, that management is now forced to listen to them, even if 99% of their content might be stupid (please don't quote this statistic, it might be wrong (Dunno if they might screenshot this and post it on twitter next, hence the declaration there))

which again just proves my point:

3 hours ago, by DroidDev

^

12:15 PM

in Tavern on the Meta, 7 mins ago, by Tim Post

Suspensions are being handed out now. Further escalation will result in the suspensions carrying over to the entire network. Harassment of anyone involved, on or off the site, will likely lead to you being removed completely. Harassment of someone due to their participation (or lack of) on our sites is a very serious thing.

there goes first nail in the coffin (maybe) :P

hehe

@DroidDev It is working.

Oh shit

@sha's suspended

No way!!

Maybe it's time considering a discord server?

12:33 PM

lol, he ain't

also, I was thinking, just in line with the recent blogpost, what if we start encouraging newbies.......................by "upvoting" every newbie post on network

I know what will be the end result, but still, I think its worth a try ;)

@Sha ^

@DroidDev yes, he is. 6 days.

but I don't see any notice anywhere :/

usually there's a notice on the profile page

oh...he's suspended from chat

well....I wonder if they gave a reason

12:59 PM

I'm sure tim did

KennyBOT

~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?

@Sonic Sha says "yes"

ShaWizDowArd

I meant, where?

Discord?

Link?

1:06 PM

Yes meaning, you can still ping him with requests

I like being mysterious. I won't give you a link

I have him on Discord too @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ :3

He didn't post there so there

Then where?

1:21 PM

14 mins ago, by M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I like being mysterious. I won't give you a link

1:32 PM

So there is a link

1:55 PM

Why Shadow's suspension ?

He never did anything wrong

@TheLittleNaruto well, he sure did.

@rene Can you link me to that transcript ?

@TheLittleNaruto April

@PrincessLuna departed (?)

just scroll back in this transcript and you'll find a some twitter posts. Look at the screenshots

@FOX9000 that can't be coincedence ....

2:03 PM

@PrincessLuna Ah!

This way we'll lose all good users :-(

@DroidDev It started working Man

On the bright side, it's just 7 days

(7 is displayed as 6 the second after suspension starts, because apparently 6:23:59:59 == 6 && !7

Stijn

2:25 PM

@ShadowWizard yeah I've been absent from chat for a good while now, been busy with all kinds of other things

@Stijn Your timing is slightly horrible unfortunately :/

He's not gonna be here for a week

Stijn

Oh :( does this have something to do with the chat moderation?

I can't imagine Shadow doing something wrong, he's one of the nicest people around here

@Stijn hey Stijn. Long time no chat

@Stijn You'd be surprised what twitter ranters can do :/

Speaking of twitter, I gotta go be offended there XD lol

Stijn

there's so much stuff happening on (M)SO right now, it's been tough keeping up

it's like a bunch of problems all exploded at once

2:32 PM

@Stijn let's just say he wasn't Shadow when saying those things

Yeah. Everyone makes mistakes

2:47 PM

Yes

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ do you have Discord?

3:14 PM

Hey Shog

I think Shog9 is in invisible mode. Not sure though

/shrug

in Tavern on the Meta, 1 min ago, by Shog9

Just FYI: I've gone back through the past few weeks of chat here on meta and removed a number of messages in this room and the Den. This is probably a good reminder that everyone is responsible for their own words, even if it doesn't seem like anyone's reading them.