Wizards Den

KennyBOT

12:58 AM

~ Where is everybody!?!

Sonic Wizard

4:39 AM

//summon 89

Princess Luna

6:18 AM

@SonicWizard offline. Sleeping 😴

rene

6:49 AM

!!status

KennyBOT

BOT running since: Mon Apr 30 2018 23:55:41 GMT+0200 (CEST) for 8 hours
username           (#msg)
KennyBOT         , seen 5 hours ago (5)
rene             , seen less than a minute ago (5)
Princess Luna    , seen 30 minutes ago (2)
Vogel612's Shadow, seen 7 hours ago (2)
InsaneCat        , seen an hour ago (1)
Sonic Wizard     , seen 2 hours ago (1)

Princess Luna

7:07 AM

//alive

user359686

@PrincessLuna I'm pretty sure I am.

Shadow Wizard

7:30 AM

//summon 721.5

user359686

@ShadowWizard Something bad happened :/

Shadow Wizard

//logs

user359686

java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "721.5": For input string: "721.5"
    at java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:65)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:580)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:615)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.commands.Summon.handleCommand(SECommands.kt:24)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.command.CommandCenter.parseMessage(CommandCenter.java:200)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.sites.se.SEChat.handleMessage(SEChat.java:428)

Shadow Wizard

7:44 AM

//*cut* silence

user359686

cutting @Shadow Wizard's silence

rene

//summon 7,5

user359686

@rene Something bad happened :/

rene

oh

// logs

integer

Shadow Wizard

@Princess isn't there tryParse method in Java?

or isInteger?

//promote rene 5.5

user359686

7:49 AM

@ShadowWizard Rank for the user has successfully been updated

Shadow Wizard

huh?

//getRank rene

user359686

@ShadowWizard rene is banned

Shadow Wizard

???

omg oops

lol

//promote rene 5

user359686

@ShadowWizard Rank for the user has successfully been updated

Shadow Wizard

//getRank rene

user359686

7:49 AM

@ShadowWizard rene's rank is 5

Shadow Wizard

probably when input is invalid it defaults to 0 or NaN

rene

@PrincessCelestia WUT?

user359686

@rene How can I //help?

Princess Luna

Um, the hell??

//help

user359686

###################### Help ######################

==================== Commands
//about          | Let me tell you a little about myself...
//alive          | Used to check if the bot is working
//appul          | Apples.
//ban            | Bans a user from using the bot. Only usable by hardcoded bot admins
//ban-room       | Blacklists a room
//blame          | No description was supplied for this command
//declare        | Changes a commands status. Only commands available on the site can be edited

Princess Luna

7:52 AM

//logs *

user359686

java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "7,5": For input string: "7,5"
    at java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:65)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:580)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:615)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.commands.Summon.handleCommand(SECommands.kt:24)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.command.CommandCenter.parseMessage(CommandCenter.java:200)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.sites.se.SEChat.handleMessage(SEChat.java:428)

Princess Luna

/shrug

Oh god

val newRank = split[1].toIntOrNull() ?: 0

cc @sha ^

Fixed now

//promote rene 5.5

//alive

user359686

@PrincessLuna I'm pretty sure I am.

user359686

@PrincessLuna Invalid rank: 5.5

Princess Luna

kthx

?: is the elvis operator

It's called if a var is null as an alternative to if(x == null)

?: 0 means the new rank was set to 0 if the rank was invalid, which is why @rene got banned (sorry 'bout that ^^')

InsaneCat

8:08 AM

-HAPPY LABOUR day to all :3 LABOUR still working here

rene

@InsaneCat this? youtube.com/watch?v=3sh4kz_zhyo

@PrincessLuna np ;) bugs happen

InsaneCat

Labour Day

Labour Day (Labor Day in the United States) is an annual holiday to celebrate the achievements of workers. Labour Day has its origins in the labour union movement, specifically the eight-hour day movement, which advocated eight hours for work, eight hours for recreation, and eight hours for rest. For most countries, Labour Day is synonymous with, or linked with, International Workers' Day, which occurs on 1 May. For other countries, Labour Day is celebrated on a different date, often one with special significance for the labour movement in that country. Labour Day is a public holiday in man...

Princess Luna

8:23 AM

//getRank rene

Sonic Wizard

//alive

user359686

@PrincessLuna rene's rank is 1

user359686

@SonicWizard I'm pretty sure I am.

Princess Luna

//promote rene 6

user359686

@PrincessLuna Rank for the user has successfully been updated

Sonic Wizard

8:24 AM

//getRank Sonic Wizard

user359686

@SonicWizard Requires 1 argument. found 2. (Pro tip: usernames are written without spaces)

Sonic Wizard

//getRank SonicWizard

user359686

@SonicWizard SonicWizard's rank is 8

Sonic Wizard

//echo line
break

I broke it!

//echo test

user359686

test

Sonic Wizard

8:25 AM

//echo Why do line breaks
break it?

//getRank PrincessCelestia

user359686

@SonicWizard PrincessCelestia's rank is an owner

Sonic Wizard

!!help

KennyBOT

~
!!blame
!!cat
!!coffee
!!cupcake
!!feed
!!flush
!!help
!!milk
!!pee
!!poo
!!SHU
!!silence
!!status ( wait a moment )
!!thank
!!vomit
!!wipe
!!wut

Sonic Wizard

//echo !!blame @PrincessCelestia

user359686

!!blame @PrincessCelestia

KennyBOT

8:28 AM

@PrincessCelestia blames @SonicWizard for @PrincessCelestia

Sonic Wizard

!!status

KennyBOT

BOT running since: Mon Apr 30 2018 23:55:41 GMT+0200 (CEST) for 10 hours
username           (#msg)
Princess Celestia, seen less than a minute ago (23)
Princess Luna    , seen 5 minutes ago (21)
Shadow Wizard    , seen 39 minutes ago (14)
Sonic Wizard     , seen less than a minute ago (12)
rene             , seen 15 minutes ago (12)
KennyBOT         , seen less than a minute ago (8)
DroidDev         , seen 36 minutes ago (3)
InsaneCat        , seen 13 minutes ago (3)
Vogel612's Shadow, seen 8 hours ago (2)

Sonic Wizard

!!thank

!!thank @PrincessCelestia

!!cat //echo !!cat //echo test

KennyBOT

@SonicWizard I only know these categories: hats, space, funny, sunglasses, boxes, caturday, ties, dream, kittens, sinks, clothes

Princess Luna

@SonicWizard Because it appends a div

Sonic Wizard

8:32 AM

//netStat

user359686

@SonicWizard The server is offline.

Princess Luna

9:03 AM

Doing some other stuff so I need the RAM elsewhere

KennyBOT

10:05 AM

~ Can't we be a bit moar talkative?

KennyBOT

12:06 PM

~ I'm a little bit lonely...

Shadow Wizard

@rene what happened to the movies API? Doesn't work for a while ^

rene

@ShadowWizard In hindsight I think the synonyms are not a great idea.

Shadow Wizard

@rene why? You get blanks?

!!blame synonyms

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard blames @ShadowWizard for synonyms

Shadow Wizard

no! It was @PrincessLuna!!

rene

12:16 PM

I think it doesn't return as many movies a shadow and wizard does

and it only tries twice

Shadow Wizard

@rene weird

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard ape (?)

Princess Luna

//blame synonyms

user359686

@PrincessLuna blames yagmoth555 for synonyms

KennyBOT

1:19 PM

~ Warlock Moon

Shadow Wizard

haha

stealing @Avatar's avatar

//*cut* avatar

user359686

cutting @Shadow Wizard's avatar

Avatar Shiny

@ShadowWizard Noooooo

My shine

Shadow Wizard

taking away the Shine from @NogShine and passing it on to @Avatar

Happy now? ;)

@KennyBOT moon

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard night

Shadow Wizard

1:28 PM

@KennyBOT darkness

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard creeping (?)

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard dark

Shadow Wizard

@KennyBOT lame

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard halt (?)

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard game

Shadow Wizard

1:29 PM

@KennyBOT WAG

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard puppy

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard hound (?)

Avatar Shiny

@ShadowWizard yipeee

Shadow Wizard

:)

@AvatarShiny hooray

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard hit (?)

Shadow Wizard

1:31 PM

//status

user359686

Started Tue, 1 May 10:04:23.0345 2018 CEST (GMT +0200) (running for 0 days, 5 hours, 27 minutes, and 27 seconds.)
Message status
Username:                         - Message count
Princess Luna (332043)            - 949
Shadow Wizard (152859)            - 859
TheLittleNaruto (206319)          - 235
FOX 9000 (261079)                 - 231
KennyBOT (269324)                 - 169
Pandya (260388)                   - 105
ProgramFOX (229438)               - 80
rene (158100)                     - 78
DroidDev (244282)                 - 70

FOX 9000

1:45 PM

Bot restarted after crash.

Shadow Wizard

!!pee

KennyBOT

~ That is gross ....

Nog Shine

Takes back shine from @Shadow of wizard

Shadow Wizard

nooooooo

Nog Shine

kisses sub junior female shadow 1000 times <3

xoxoxo

Shadow Wizard

2:00 PM

throwing kisses on @Dro

FOX 9000

Bot restarted after crash.

Shadow Wizard

:/

TheLittleNaruto

2:39 PM

The King Thelittlenaruto is back.

Man meta SO became chaos

Full of shitty questions and answers

kicks @sha @dro and @pri

Princess Luna

You've clearly not seen main SO ._.

TheLittleNaruto

Main SO ? What's up there ?

What am I missing ?

Shadow Wizard

@TheLittleNaruto guess she means it always has crappy questions

Princess Luna

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…

@ShadowWizard Nope :/

FOX 9000

@PrincessLuna sure (?)

TheLittleNaruto

2:45 PM

@ShadowWizard Wakarimashtha

FOX 9000

@TheLittleNaruto Understood (?)

Shadow Wizard

oh, that troll again.. :/

Princess Luna

29 times and still counting

TheLittleNaruto

@PrincessLuna Oh share some of example questions you're referring to.

Princess Luna

1 min ago, by Princess Luna

https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/search?autoflagged=&body=6296561&commit=Sear‌ch&feedback=&post_type=&reason=&site=&title=&user_rep_direction=%3E%3D&user_reput‌ation=0&username=&utf8=%E2%9C%93&why=

TheLittleNaruto

2:46 PM

Lmao that name

Shadow Wizard

Guess that in a way you should be flattered, someone spending so much efforts because of you... better see it this way, at least. @Princess. :)

And I'm afraid we can just hammer those away as they come, he's probably changing IP address rapidly to evade IP ban

TheLittleNaruto

Oops! I forgot that first 3 character are name of @Pri

Sorry boy!

Princess Luna

@ShadowWizard The only way they can keep going like this is through Tor. So yeah, IP ban isn't an option :/ From what I can tell, they post an answer as an unregistered user, leave three comments (not sure why exactly three) and makes a destructive edit (like the one you rejected earlier)

Shadow Wizard

@PrincessLuna yeah.. well, edits from anonymous visitors get heavily rate limited when few are marked as spam (e.g. can't be submitted at all for some hours), @Sonic probably got full details. But no way to fight the other things.

Princess Luna

@ShadowWizard Based on IP, right?

Shadow Wizard

2:52 PM

@PrincessLuna not sure, might be global, i.e. no anonymous edits can be made at all.

This might explain why he reverted to suggesting those edits from the fake accounts...

TheLittleNaruto

@PrincessLuna We had this problem on Hinduism SE. Still we are facing

Shadow Wizard

Wait.. how they leave comments, without rep? @Pri

TheLittleNaruto

They can afaik

Princess Luna

It's on their own posts

Shadow Wizard

oh

Princess Luna

2:54 PM

You can comment on your own answers, and all posts if you own the question

Shadow Wizard

yup

TheLittleNaruto

Yes that ^

Best thing we can do is, flag it and also ignore.

Shadow Wizard

Indeed.

KennyBOT

3:58 PM

~ Out of the Shadow

Princess Luna

5:54 PM

>>alive

FOX 9000

@PrincessLuna Yes, I'm alive.

Princess Luna

6:10 PM

//join-twitch seafoammelon

Huh, it died?

user359686

@PrincessLuna I'm already there

Princess Luna

//time -get

user359686

Available timezones: [Africa/Abidjan, Africa/Accra, Africa/Addis_Ababa, Africa/Algiers, Africa/Asmara, Africa/Asmera, Africa/Bamako, Africa/Bangui, Africa/Banjul, Africa/Bissau, Africa/Blantyre, Africa/Brazzaville, Africa/Bujumbura, Africa/Cairo, Africa/Casablanca, Africa/Ceuta, Africa/Conakry, Africa/Dakar, Africa/Dar_es_Salaam, Africa/Djibouti, Africa/Douala, Africa/El_Aaiun, Africa/Freetown, Africa/Gaborone, Africa/Harare, Africa/Johannesburg, Africa/Juba, Africa/Kampala, Africa/Khartoum, Africa/Kigali, Africa/Kinshasa, Africa/Lagos, Africa/Libreville, Africa/Lome, Africa/Luanda, Africa/…

KennyBOT

7:16 PM

~ The Wizard of Oz

Sonic Wizard

@Shadow @PrincessLuna They probably would be stopped by my proposed cookie blocking system

Princess Luna

Cookie blocking?

Oh, so it's cookie based blocking instead

Again, that won't help if the cookies gets cleared often

The only secure way is to prevent them server-side from being sent with string similarity checks and previous instances. Some of these posts are identical, and are therefore caught by SD, but still

There are a bunch of browsers that can be configured to automatically delete history, including cookies, which makes it just about as effective as IP bans

Sonic Wizard

7:49 PM

@PrincessLuna They were supposedly signed into the same accounts, which means their cookies were likely kept. Also, on Wikipedia, users aren't told they were blocked based on cookies; they are told that they were just "autoblocked".

Princess Luna

No, it's different accounts

Each answer so far has been by different accounts

(there've been different identicons on all the ones I've seen)

Sonic Wizard

On Wikipedia, CheckUsers not only have access to IP address info, but also Web browser, screen resolution, and even your version of Adobe Flash Player.

Princess Luna

80 posts :/

@SonicWizard You've clearly never heard of TOR

It remmends not maximizing the window to prevent screen resolution detection

Sonic Wizard

8:05 PM

@PrincessLuna IP addresses of Tor exit nodes are made public, and they just flat-out block those

Princess Luna

Recommends*

@SonicWizard I use Tor at school. There are legit uses for it

Firefox in general blocks flashplayer

Web browser is sent as a part of the user agent

Sonic Wizard

@PrincessLuna Established users with a genuine need for editing through Tor can request an IP block exemption

Princess Luna

How established?

Sonic Wizard

@PrincessLuna I believe you need to be "extended confirmed" (have made at least 500 edits and been a user for at least 30 days)

The right can be manually removed by admins if they determine you gained it by gaming the system

Princess Luna

500 edits???

I barely have 700 on Stack Overflow where I've been a member for ~2 years

TL;DR: getting 500 edits as a reason is a way too high requirement

Sonic Wizard

8:28 PM

@PrincessLuna On Wikipedia, every post you make is considered an edit. In fact, a more apt word is "contribution".

KennyBOT

9:29 PM

~ A Lighter Shade of Pearl

Shadow Wizard

10:01 PM

@SonicWizard who would be stopped?

Like I keep saying to @Journeyman in Tavern, if one tells me something all of a sudden, expecting me to remember something I told in the past, most of the times it will fail and I'll have no idea what the context is. And no, I won't go back and search for it, sorry.

I post many things, over many posts... :/

So for this purpose SE made the reply chat feature, or onebox for comments or posts. ;)

Sonic Wizard

10:17 PM

This room has intrusion too

Shadow Wizard

?

Sonic Wizard

@ShadowWizard Check the icons

@Catija Guess we won't have the chance to meet again before I leave for the summer?

Shadow Wizard

oh, @Catija is here!!

throwing a big Welcome Back party

Catija

@ShadowWizard I don't know what you're talking about.

Shadow Wizard

lol

Catija

10:29 PM

@SonicWizard Leaving next week?

Shadow Wizard

You can't use any hidden mod powers here! ;)

Sonic Wizard

@Catija May 11 morning

Catija

Yeah, probably not, then... we're going to San Antonio this weekend for a friend's baby shower.

Sonic Wizard

@Catija No problem...am I invited to yours? (Just joking)

Catija

@SonicWizard HAHA. I doubt I'll have one. The "tradition" is to only have them for first kids.

Sonic Wizard

10:34 PM

@Catija Ah, in my culture we tend to have them for every child

Catija

@SonicWizard Yeah, I think we figure that you already have everything from the first time around unless it's been a decade.

Shadow Wizard

@Catija baby shower??? What's that?

Here we invite people to the "circumcision event" of boys. Not just first, though.

Catija

Party for soon to be parents... usually games and presents for the baby... anything from diapers to clothes to toys to furniture... Babies require so much new stuff that we "shower" the new parents with the things they'll need.

I know what a Bris is. :P

Shadow Wizard

Some invite only family, some make actual events with hundreds of people.

@Catija huh, never heard of that!

Well, many times guests bring presents to the event I mentioned above, so guess it's almost equal. :)

@Catija Brit, but yeah... how you know the Hebrew word? ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@ShadowWizard she knows all. She sees all

Catija

10:40 PM

It's actually called a "bris" in English - to relate to the Jewish rite. I pick up random factoids and one of my friends is really involved in the Jewish community. :)

Shadow Wizard

@Catija huh... so weird. Let's see...

Catija

I'm also... like 8% Ashkenazim... so it's part of my heritage, though I get it through my grandfather.

Shadow Wizard

Brit milah

The brit milah (Hebrew: בְּרִית מִילָה‬, pronounced [bʁit miˈla]; Ashkenazi pronunciation: [bʁis ˈmilə], "covenant of circumcision"; Yiddish pronunciation: bris [bʀɪs]) is a Jewish religious male circumcision ceremony performed by a mohel ("circumciser") on the eighth day of the infant's life. The brit milah is followed by a celebratory meal (seudat mitzvah). == Biblical references == According to the Hebrew Bible (Genesis 17:10-14) God commanded the Biblical patriarch Abraham to be circumcised, an act to be followed by his descendants: 10 This is My covenant, which ye shall keep, between Me...

That's the formal thing ^

Not sure how it became "bris"?

oh, Yiddish

Catija

The Yiddish pronunciation, probably.

Shadow Wizard

@Catija that's.. not really "defined" unless you're Jewish. I think. :)

Catija

10:43 PM

@ShadowWizard Genetically.

Shadow Wizard

Can I ask, if you do a "bris" to your boys? Not out of religion, but I think I saw somewhere that many do it for health reasons. @Catija

Though it appears to be in a decline these days.

Catija

And since my grandmother's not Jewish and didn't convert, I'm not Jewish, either... My grandfather was in radio and changed his surname from "Rubinski" to "O'Connor" during the 40s-50s...

Shadow Wizard

@Catija huh

Catija

@ShadowWizard We've chosen not to. We see it as a choice for them to make for themselves.

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard guess (?)

Shadow Wizard

10:45 PM

@Catija fair enough, though doing it later is much more painful.

(I think - not the procedure itself, during the time it needs to heal afterwards)

Catija

I think it's painful either way, if you're not anesthetized, but you don't remember it as a child...

It's easier to take care of an infant and smaller :P

Shadow Wizard

@Catija the tradition is to give the baby drop of wine, which is kind of anesthetics... ;)

Catija

I think the likelihood is, unless they choose a religious following that requires it, they'll remain uncircumcised. That said, I'm not an anti-snip crusader in this. We came to our decision and respect that others may not share them. :D

Shadow Wizard

@Catija fair enough! While not religious, I do believe the reasoning in ancient times was health, same way the Jewish rules demands people to wash their hands before any meal. Basic hygiene. So guess I'd follow this even if I wasn't part of religion requiring it. :)

status-better-talk-on-other-things-now-I-guess

:D

@KennyBOT boo

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard scary

Shadow Wizard

10:54 PM

@KennyBOT scream

FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard clamp (?)

KennyBOT

@ShadowWizard yell