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bummi

00:01

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/2597794/1699210

Unihedro

@bummi 92 rep user post smells spam

bummi

I took a look at him, other post seemed to be ok, and the question is inviting crap, other answers don't look reeaaly better for me, lets close the question?

Unihedro

Voted to close already, sitting and waiting for its final close vote of doom.

bummi

@Unihedro I'll add a delete vote then ..

Unihedro

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Q: VLQ Review queue Recommend Deletion description

The description for Recommend Deletion action in the VLQ review queue is pretty silly: Recommend Deletion to recommend that this answer be deleted A new user can figure that out on their own. Can we change this to some more descriptive like the other actions have? For example: Recommend...

bummi

00:17

I did see before :) have to add a mark, deletion will be possible in 2 days

Unihedro

yay

bummi

OK time for the bed ... cu

Unihedro

See you!

Gemtastic

The wheel of blame :P

bjb568

@animuson "Improve Edit the edit by making additional corrections" — bjb568 7 secs ago

Sompuperoo

00:31

@bjb568 to be fair, only non-robo reviewers would ever read the tooltip. You have to wait like what, a whole 3 seconds for it to pop up? screw that

bjb568

Default, unless you close it manually.

Unihedro

@Sompuperoo Pretty sure it's client side.

I just spammed the thing, it didn't take any time at all.

And once you close it, it will never expand again, so you won't be able to see which Off Topic reason the review task is under.

user259867

I just wanted to name a file com1.png for some good reason.... but nooo.

Unihedro

@Behaviour lolwhy?

user259867

Because Windows!

user259867

00:38

Filename reserved for COM1 port, extension doesn't matter.

Braiam

wut

that's too '90

hichris123

@Behaviour lolwut

Braiam

@Behaviour the is hope for windows 9... err 10

user259867

I'm on Win7 now, no experience with later versions.

Unihedro

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

00:45

@Unihedro Kinda sorta

bjb568

@SmokeDetector Not good enough!

Unihedro

!!/hats?

SmokeDetector

@Unihedro HATS ARE AWESOME. Winter Bash will end in 1 day, 23 hours, 13 minutes and 37 seconds. :(

Unihedro

13 minutes and 37 seconds... when you see it :P

Gemtastic

:O

Unihedro

00:49

!find the answer to life the universe and everything

bjb568

42 (number) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unihedro

I approve

Gemtastic

You love that bot don't you

Unihedro

!find unihedro

bjb568

Unihedron

Unihedro

00:53

Argh, unihedro.com is not indexed

hichris123

!!/hats

!!/alive

bjb568

dead

hichris123

:(

bjb568

@uni Y U USE GOOGLE ANALYTICS?!

hichris123

It'll autorevert in a bit.

Unihedro

00:59

@bjb568 I don't... Wait, I do?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

bjb568

…

Auto gen'd HTML

Unihedro

omg

bad

quit this domain plan

bjb568

Also links don't work.

I'll help you write the CSS (for free).

coz I'm nice

Unihedro

Really? :O

bjb568

Yeah. :D

Braiam

01:02

@Unihedro eh? why markdown?

and I mean bare markdown on HTML

Unihedro

@Braiam I wrote a short script in the source <script> tags to parse them into links.

user259867

> Ever since I've gotten the vote to close privilege, I wanted to help!

Unihedro

Unfortunately, my javascript sucks, so it has a syntax error which I can't resolve.

user259867

At least it quotes nicely.

Unihedro

@Behaviour It's same as my about me here: stackoverflow.com/users/3622940/unihedro

Braiam

01:04

@Unihedro syntax errors are easy to find, just paste the whole thing in a JS beautifier

bjb568

jshint.com <- Over-complainer, but ok

Unihedro

@Braiam What's that?

Braiam

@Unihedro ie jsbeautifier.org

hichris123

!!/hats

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 HATS ARE AWESOME. Winter Bash will end in 1 day, 22 hours, 55 minutes and 19 seconds. :(

hichris123

01:05

@bjb568 fixed

Unihedro

:(

Our hats!

ɥʇǝS

@bjb568 Why are you inside an iPad?

wait, so is @bjb568 really just an iPad app written by @UndotheSnowman?

bjb568

:O

Unihedro

:O

ɥʇǝS

:O

Unihedro

01:10

Come to think of it, having an app that codes websites for you is pretty sweet. :P

"pls write my website" questions can stay off from Stack Overflow now

bjb568

:D

ɥʇǝS

:D

user259867

@ɥʇǝS It's still kind of buggy though.

Unihedro

:D

missed train :p

user259867

Sorry. :(

ɥʇǝS

01:11

@bjb568 lol I was just going to send ":D" when you sent it.

Unihedro

Sorry for making you say sorry. :(

bjb568

:)

user259867

Possible loop detected and aborted.

Unihedro

:)

ɥʇǝS

@Behaviour D:

Unihedro

01:12

@Behaviour #define bug parasite

bjb568

!find parasite

Parasite | Define Parasite at Dictionary.com

!find parasite "tavern on the meta"

Unihedro

> a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

bjb568

01:26

whoooooooosh goes the wind

user259867

If your first step is 1 meter, second is 1/2 meters, third is 1/3 meters, and so on... you will walk infinitely far.

user259867

But if you turn to your right (90 degrees) after each step... you will never be more than 2 meters away from your starting point.

user259867

(that was your random math fact of the day)

bjb568

Well, isn't that common sense?

1/n just feels slow enough of decay that it'll diverge.

Sompuperoo

@bjb568 ? think you mean jslint, jshint is a nice friend who barely ever complains

bjb568

01:29

But durr if you're turning, you're spiraling.

user259867

You can still imagine spiraling out to infinity.

bjb568

@Sompuperoo It complains when I do if (whatever) return whatever;

@Behaviour No, spiraling in.

Each step is shorter.

It makes no sense to spiral out to infinity with decreasing lengths when it's just tau/4 angles.

hichris123

@Behaviour You can't really walk 1/1000000000 of a meter, though.

user259867

Right, spiraling in to some point. I'll have to draw this.

bjb568

@hichris123 Math is more pure than physics things.

hichris123

01:31

@bjb568 It's theoretically possible, but in actuality impossible.

bjb568

Yes

user259867

Unless you are walking your spherical dog on a weightless inextensible leash.

Gemtastic

@Behaviour Makes me think about Gravity

bjb568

I love spherical dogs.

Way less annoying.

Best approximation I could find.

Gemtastic

@bjb568 Nothing like sleeping with the nose in the butt

bjb568

01:40

Yup.

Looks more like torus tho.

Gemtastic

I miss having a dog :/

They're such little derps

user259867

^ This is what I actually meant. Each step is 1/n, and at right angle to the radius-vector from the origin.

user259867

Not from the direction of the previous step, as I said by mistake.

user259867

So the path has infinite length, is spiraling out, but will never leave the circle of radius 2 around the origin.

Undo the Snowman

02:12

@ɥʇǝS You didn't know?

@Behaviour That's really cool

ɥʇǝS

@UndotheSnowman Not in the slightest.

Undo the Snowman

@bjb568 was the alpha version. I've made great improvements since then.

6

ɥʇǝS

I want a cat now.

Undo the Snowman

Awwww

Gemtastic

@ɥʇǝS I imagine @Uni looking like that when he's spam hunting

bjb568

02:15

@ɥʇǝS You want me?

ɥʇǝS

@Gemtastic hahaha

Undo the Snowman

@ɥʇǝS Just wait until it gets frustrated and deploys the target capture system.

ɥʇǝS

@UndotheSnowman Yeah.. that won't be so fun.

@bjb568 I'm not sure I want a cat that chats on Stack Exchange all day.. That would just be too weird.

Gemtastic

3

bjb568

@ɥʇǝS Has 261 rep!

Unihedro

02:18

I have more rep on SO than my sock

ɥʇǝS

I almost just migrated a question to pt.so instead of SO. That wouldn't have been funny.

@bjb568 it's that high? I hadn't noticed.

@UndotheSnowman Does it rival Jon Skeet yet?

Unihedro

@ɥʇǝS Frank has 101. Signup + Affiliation, no catch.

user259867

I have 269... but my answer acceptance percentage is better than Jon Skeet's.

user259867

(5/5)

Unihedro

@Gemtastic Spam post! Another spam post! And this one needs closing! I better beg for CVs in the tavern! Another spam post has appeared on Drupal!

ɥʇǝS

02:23

@Behaviour goes to edit 5 posts

Gemtastic

@Unihedro And occasionally "NO! Noone online in tavern! Java chat it is is! CV plz kitten eyes"

ɥʇǝS

@Unihedro Yeah I asked a few stupid questions. That's probably how I got my rep. Or maybe I just found it under a rock. Can't recall.

Undo the Snowman

@ɥʇǝS no :(

ɥʇǝS

@UndotheSnowman D:

Undo the Snowman

Actually, I really want to try to make a bot to identify NAAs.

It really can't be that hard.

Unihedro

02:25

@UndotheSnowman Yeah, Pham can do it.

And you tried to challenge Sam on a feature he didn't implement :P

!!status

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@Unihedro Running since 02:04:31 UTC

Unihedro

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@Unihedro 73c4af0 (hichris1234: Fix !!/hats)

Unihedro

that ^^

Gemtastic

He's fast at replying sometimes

Unihedro

02:27

I wonder if I can run Phamhilator on a non-Pham account

Undo the Snowman

As long as no one hardcoded credentials

hichris123

@UndotheSnowman Not if I get to it first. :P

Unihedro

Oh oh oh!

You must redeem yourself, @Undo!

:P

user259867

IMO, NAAs don't really require a Blaze-type bot; since there is no urgent need to kill them, one can run whatever logic on SO weekly data in SEDE.

Unihedro

@Behaviour But... free flags! Flag weight!

user259867

02:34

NAA flags don't have that much cumulative effect; one is usually enough. And there is no flag weight anymore.

Unihedro

Net flags (helpful - declined) still progress on expanding your daily flag cap until you have the max of 100.

hichris123

@Behaviour I'd run off of a data dump.

user259867

But that one is updated like... once a year.

hichris123

@Behaviour Few months, to be more specific. But you can run it locally.

Unihedro

@Behaviour Ha, guess what, happy new year.

user259867

02:36

Hm, how many non-deleted answers does SO get per week? I think it may be under 50000, so the weekly dose may be downloadable from SEDE.

Unihedro

We can find out by doing experiments and applying basic maths.

user259867

(even if it isn't, it's not hard to split the week into two halves and download separately)

Unihedro

02:49

~nap

Braiam

03:02

or so Uni says

Gemtastic

I estimate his nap to be 25min

He just needs a restart and the little duracell bunny will be up and coding in no time :P

Sompuperoo

03:18

reject plz stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6635789

Infinite Snowflakes

~pokes #uni

Jan Dvorak

Rejected. And audits should handle the approver soon.

Gemtastic

<-- le n00b :)

Sompuperoo

I think the pinned message should be unpinned. Anyone disagree? Speak now.

Infinite Snowflakes

Shog has no snow in his name, winter is coming to an end. I too, will revert back to my real name soon.

Braiam

03:27

@Sompuperoo is really the "helpers" tag needed?

Sompuperoo

idk, haven't checked it out

Infinite Snowflakes

@Sompuperoo is concerned about the pinned message ATM

user259867

Chinese New Year is in February, but... yeah, the message can go.

Sompuperoo

@Inf please unpin the message, it is good message, but takes up valuable star wall real estate. No one has spoken out against unpinning it. Please unpin so we can continue with usual business proceedings, thanks.

user259867

I wish winter was coming to an end. Unfortunately it's only winter celebrations that are ending...

Infinite Snowflakes

03:36

Done

Sompuperoo

ty :D

Braiam

@Behaviour FYI winter is always coming...

dunno if to an end or start... but it's coming

Gemtastic

03:52

In my country it's "Brace yourselves; winter is momentarily coming and going"

Sleet and black ice everywhere

Jan Dvorak

It's all dry here

We only had snow for two day or so. Fast came, fast gone.

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@JanDvorak Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Gemtastic

@JanDvorak Yeah. Global warming shifted the seasons. Winter only really comes in late january :/

user259867

04:11

Idle observation: language-wise, Tavern appears to be leaning toward Java/Android. For example, I don't see C# or Python people around often. Is the observation correct?

Braiam

@Behaviour no, because in the tavern there ain't people... just animals, geometric figures and 2D/3D entities

Jan Dvorak

I'm a JS and haskell fan

@Braiam And trees

and heads

Sompuperoo

i like pizza

Gemtastic

I like all l code. No h8, don't discriminate!

Deep down, we're all 1 and 0

;P

Jan Dvorak

I'm not. I'm analog-based

OK... if I look deeper, I'm all ACGT

Braiam

04:22

edits Wikipedia page about owls... adds the fact that owls are analog

Jan Dvorak

all fauna uses analog logic

Gemtastic

Haha

plays my acoustic guitar

Jan Dvorak

listens to an acoustic guitar

Gemtastic

♪ As soon as you're born they make you feel small~♫

Braiam

introduces a cello

points the need of a piano

Jan Dvorak

04:26

Hold on... I'll find the Piano Guys.

Gemtastic

♪ By giving you no time instead of it all

Jan Dvorak

@Gemtastic Wow. That's a really slow beat. Or a lot of instrumentals.

Gemtastic

'til the pain is so big you feel nothing at all~

Jan Dvorak

►

Gemtastic

Sorry, singing, typing and playing guitar at the same time is hard :/

Jan Dvorak

04:28

You should totally drop that and... wait no. You should totally place it down and listen instead.

Gemtastic

Sure

But I'm watching ponies sing... I mean porn. I'm watching porn

Jan Dvorak

Interesting idea to combine Let It Go with Vivaldi's Winter

Gemtastic

Well, you have to do it that way if the kids are gonna hear vivaldi nowadays

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/142125/…

user259867

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A: Why was the closing of this question so unusual?

In spite of all the downvotes on his answer, nicael is absolutely correct - the notion that privileged users would have to vote to close was a somewhat late addition to the Stack Overflow system: As an active Stack Overflow user, one of the abilities you’ll gain at 3,000 reputation is the abi...

user259867

04:40

Go upvote nicael in compensation.

Braiam

my favorites are not covers but originals like "moonlight" and "berlin"

Gemtastic

From the Piano guys?

Braiam

yeah

user259867

05:03

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/142126/…

Jan Dvorak

combo 2x

Drupal really is slow ATM

@Braiam umm... Moonlight is a Beethoven cover

bjb568

Planet of the apes is good.

gbjbaanb, United Kingdom

33.5k 4 56 103

c++ svn c# .net c tortoisesvn version-control

^ Ooh this guy is partially me!

Infinite Snowflakes

05:39

@Behaviour Submitted your feature-request

bjb568

Why are you a dog on github? :O

Infinite Snowflakes

To scare cats :P

bjb568

:O

Infinite Snowflakes

I have different identities on every site, variety :D

bjb568

Oh, just like I have a human parent form?

Infinite Snowflakes

05:47

yes, and I have a duck parent form. Everything else is an illusion.

bjb568

Your primary form is a parent. Well, that's the problem!

Infinite Snowflakes

No

bjb568

Yes

Infinite Snowflakes

NO!

bjb568

YES!

Infinite Snowflakes

05:51

Nooooooo!

bjb568

Yeeeeeees!

Infinite Snowflakes

O_O This thread is so meta. — bjb568 yesterday

user259867

06:02

@bjb568 It's mentioned in "code quality" part on DD

bjb568

Oh.

Well, I suppose it's a good habit.

user259867

I now read Best practice for semicolon after every function in javascript?, which explained it somewhat.

bjb568

And I think there were some side effects or something…

Oh yeah that.

Anyway, I don't do function parenthathes literal things.

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 you mean IIFEs? Why?

bjb568

I have no need to.

Jan Dvorak

06:06

so that you don't pollute the global global namespace?

bjb568

Everything is already in functions.

Like the HTTP server callback function.

Or file read callbacks.

Or database callbacks.

Infinite Snowflakes

Eek! Users are gaming flags from the LQRQ :/

@Luke - I apologize for the harsh wording on the decline reason, but we've seen a few people lately using flags from within the Low Quality Posts review queue to game helpful flags. We saw a number of flags that you had left immediately before you voted to delete posts, and it looked like that's what you were trying to do here. If it was merely a misunderstanding as to the purpose of flags, I'm sorry about the warning in the flag response. — Brad Larson ♦ 9 hours ago

Sompuperoo

@InfiniteSnowflakes Is it even possible to flag a post as NAA then also vote to delete it?

i thought that would make you ineligible to review it

if not it should..

bjb568

Or just unbork NAA/VLQ completely and clarify the use of other flags!

Infinite Snowflakes

I don't know if it's possible, it never asked me to review anything which I flagged.

Sompuperoo

06:13

@Servy allowing a user to simultaneously flag and recommend deletion is simply a bug, known and admitted by SE team. Other than that, there is nothing conceptually wrong when user picks one (not both) of either re-flag or recommend deletion, just for the reasons I laid out in prior comment — gnat 9 hours ago

Infinite Snowflakes

so the abusive users are gaming it :/