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5:14 AM

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5:29 AM

Don't do chrime:

Reprod using chrime on huawei P20 pro in the responsive site. — Luuklag 53 mins ago

Is that a new browser or a spelling misteak?

Also the sticky top bar is getting on my nerves 😡

6:03 AM

I just added a new answer there.

I like to order 2 pizza's, medium, with extra cheese

It's sticky on the main site's main page: stackoverflow.com but here it is not: stackoverflow.com/users/current - so it's not like it must be sticky.

6:58 AM

@rene and pineapple :)

@JourneymanGeek its a steak alright ;)

7:23 AM

I once thought the color teak was a misspelling of teal

@Tinkeringbell Quite honestly, I didn't know that it was a controversial topping on pizzas until around 2018. I thought it was a normal thing to get on pizzas, and that the main reason most catered pizzas didn't have it was to save cost.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog untill you find out the catered pizza's are made by "real" italians who disgust pineapple ;)

@Luuklag They'd come from fast-food joints mostly (e.g. Pizza Hut, Domino's, etc.)

Basically, a brand new made-to-order pizza restaurant opened in Texas in 2018. I asked for pineapple and got looks from other customers; same thing happened in south Florida

The same didn't happen in my native Southern California at a similar place

Texas, doesn't that say enough ;)

What happen when flag canned comment by community as NLN, if OP edit the post but comment is still alive. Should we flag comment as NLN ? What is MOD action on that flag. Mark helpful, declined because it's auto delete or helpful. Or wait for auto delete comment by system.

@Shree As far as I'm aware, SE failed to completely unship a really old feature a long time ago, and so comments from Community can't be flagged.

7:37 AM

I see flag option there.

Try submitting the flag.

But dont try to flag.

Moderators can't delete those comments, at least not now. I believe that's something that's being worked on though (I hope!)

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Ohh why option if there is no way to submit.

Is it bug already reported :P

Q: Cannot flag comments made Community♦ regarding dead URLs

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I was digging through some lovely unicorn paraphernalia, when I came across a comment which is now incorrect. I attempted flagging it as 'obsolete', but I got this error message: Doesn't Community know that links can sometimes fix themselves after a while? If not, I think we need to teach him,...

7:40 AM

Thanks.

Basically, there was a feature experiment long ago to place automatic comments on posts with links that result in 404 errors, among others such as links to IP address URLs. The idea would be that once the link is edited out, the comment would be automatically deleted, so there was no point in flagging them. The commenting logic and the comment-deleting logic were removed, but not the logic that disallows flags on Community comments for this reason.

If flag is enable, how MOD judge that flag, not all MOD expert on that particular field ?? After edit it's Link only answer, spam, summary of link or useless edit .............. so many option there.

If the comment doesn't fit the answer? (e.g. a link-only answer comment on something that's not a link-only answer)?

Some time Https://example.com/apiV/2.1...... , its's bug <link>, It's not possible <link> all are answer. But community post that comment. Not happy with community. Nothing to say. I only see single site from my eye and unable imagine impact for whole SE network.

8:56 AM

@Shree if the link is completely broken, its obvious

in some cases there might be archived content

9:47 AM

waffles

11:53 AM

I'm sorry but this just happened: i.stack.imgur.com/agaEY.png

@rene That's Leet!

I however am dealing with strange behaviour in my program. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

and it is somewhere in the conjunction of one of the 50 parameters I entered today

Schrödinger app

yeah

the parameters are names for products, which all have their own data underneath

one product throws up an error when it is in with the other 49

but on its own, even entered in mulitples it works fine

data related bugs are the best bugs

yeah, so the data from the product itself is not dodgy, but probably my handling of it somewhere in my spaghetti is

12:04 PM

@rene Did you clear it accidentally? Last I remember that number was well above 10k for you or something wild.

@Spevacus yeah, I'm not even sure how it happened but at some day it was reset ...

:(

@rene like your cars odometer, it overflowed to 0

:D

It is no longer sticky. 😀

12:20 PM

@Rob toffee?

Well I found out where my program goes wrong. If some value is 0, the result of that calculation is "n.a.", caused by devision by 0. Then trying to sum that "n.a." goes wrong obviously

@Rob wet wipe?

@Luuklag how come? N/A+N/A should be N/A too

In JS NaN does it.

well its litterally a string

Any operation on NaN results in NaN as well, never error.

and excel doesn't like to sum numbers and strings

@Luuklag boo

Switch to JS ;)

12:29 PM

Thats the fun of mixing normal worksheetformula and vba

Basic sucks when it comes to data types

I mean, "A"+5 is trivially "A5". ;)

So why block such basic action just because one is a string and one is a number?

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Yes, what else should it be?

@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica nice new avatar!

Sadly the head is cut off. :(

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 unless A is an integer with value 5

@Luuklag no no, I fixed it, meant "A" is a literal string, not variable. :)

12:32 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 They need a new name: EkadhSingh-HeadlessGiraffe

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@Luuklag rofl

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 well, garbage in, garbage out xD

but 5 more lines of exception handling fixed this.

Fun thing is, tuesday I have to hand this over to real dev's. They can dig up this VBA and make it into an API

@Luuklag let me guess, If IsNumeric(n) = False Then ...?

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 diaper burst

@Rob diaper contents are rarely sticky, in case of healthy baby. They're just stinky.

12:35 PM

If AA = 2 Then
If wks_Risk_cal.Cells(AA, 7).Value = "n.a." Then
wks_AI_res.Cells(row, 24).Value = 0
Else
wks_AI_res.Cells(row, 24 - 2 + AA).Value = wks_Risk_cal.Cells(AA, 7)
End If
Else

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 only the first few days

You know we can't post that image again.

@Luuklag flag as "lack of Indentation" :D

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 rofl, thank this last century chat for that

@Luuklag first few days aren't even stinky, but neither pee nor poop are really sticky? :P

12:37 PM

@Luuklag even chat support code formatting, with four spaces in the beginning of each line. ;)

Meconium

Meconium is the earliest stool of a mammalian infant. Unlike later feces, meconium is composed of materials ingested during the time the infant spends in the uterus: intestinal epithelial cells, lanugo, mucus, amniotic fluid, bile and water. Meconium, unlike later feces, is viscous and sticky like tar, its color usually being a very dark olive green; it is almost odorless. When diluted in amniotic fluid, it may appear in various shades of green, brown, or yellow. It should be completely passed by the end of the first few days after birth, with the stools progressing toward yellow (digested milk...

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Sticky or not sticky: twitter.com/dadsaysjokes/status/1148671856192491520?lang=en

If AA = 2 Then
    If wks_Risk_cal.Cells(AA, 7).Value = "n.a." Then
        wks_AI_res.Cells(row, 24).Value = 0
    Else
        wks_AI_res.Cells(row, 24 - 2 + AA).Value = wks_Risk_cal.Cells(AA, 7)
    End If
Else

@Luuklag ^

@Luuklag lol

@Rob doesn't stick :D

New record in Den!

@rene did you put some failsafe in the code?

If not, Kenny isn't a perfect anti freeze bot. ;)

(next is 6 days, then 12 days, then.... room will freeze after 14 days)

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 we didn't need it in the last 6 to 8 years, I'm sure we don't need it for another 6 to 8 weeks ...

12:54 PM

hmm but I don't want to break the silence

well, if I'm going to make changes I have to restart kenny so that will break the silence anyway

@rene Even more reason to do it now then :P

in Shadow's Den, 2 mins ago, by Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

nooooooooooo

@Tinkeringbell you evil parrot

lol

@Luuklag Hey, we no longer have 'Be nice', and the Code of Conduct doesn't ban this :P

1:05 PM

@rene yeah with his "Tada!"

Well I got my prototype ready

expect gazzillion questions in 6-8 days

@Tinkeringbell I'll post feature request asking to add "Don't break the silence in chat rooms". ;)

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Well that's... going to be awkward :P

Good way to get rid of some rep.... :D

@Luuklag biertje?

1:09 PM

@rene I need something stronger I think xD

@Luuklag coffee!!

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 make it Irish ;)

!!/Irish Cream for Luuk

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 No such command 'irish'.

:(

1:14 PM

@Luuklag extra topping! :D

cold coffee =/= coffee

@Luuklag Darn, now I want some...

Please welcome Valued Associates: #958 - V2Blast & #959 - SpencerG

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@JourneymanGeek now Journey can rest his horses about hiring from the community

1:29 PM

@Luuklag naw, that's something that I feel should never rest

@Luuklag I'm glad to see people applied and got hired

but I don't feel that the mending of bridges, so to speak is anywhere near done

@JNat cross site spammer (that has 1 valid post on SO) stackexchange.com/users/8160376/airlabs?tab=accounts

So, I'll appreciate the wins, but...

its not over ;)

@Luuklag is it? I've only seen them on opendata.SE

@Luuklag only one hired from community, and only because of his IRL past jobs.

@JourneymanGeek So all MOD is expert for all domain ??

1:38 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 he's an excellent hire

@Shree we might not be expert in all domains, but if something is obvious enough, we can handle it

if it isn't, we'll ask around

@Shree so how @JourneymanGeek its answer my question ? how ??

@Shree I meant

"If a link was obviously not working, we'd know"

@Luuklag But not the timezone.

and to some extent we don't need to be experts in everything, just know enough to make a judgement or ask for help

@Rob That didn't come up till the last time

and why I won't be applying further

@Rob Yeah, but as long as @Catija keeps working till the middle of the night SE will be fine ;)

1:46 PM

its the one thing I literally can't do anything about

@JourneymanGeek Move! Your place won't be ready until 2023 anyways, so you can always first rent something somewhere else, in a timezone they do allow you to work from :P

@JourneymanGeek Catija working until midnight or...?

@Ollie the time zone requirement

@JourneymanGeek Now I wonder what you can do against Catija working until midnight :P

Catija

What have I done now?

1:47 PM

that said - its also more than "one person"

its also about trying to nudge the culture of the place back in the right direction

Timezone violation

@Catija work too much ;)

@Catija sleep too little ;)

One can have a job they hate, and sleep too little :D

Better to have a job that keeps one up for the right reasons

@JourneymanGeek that's called alcoholism ;)

1:52 PM

@Luuklag Wait, I need to take up drinking now?

They hire an average of one person per five days (assuming no skipping): 13×365÷959 = 4.95

@Rob I wonder what the rate of leaving is

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I am the headless ~~horse~~ giraffeman xD

@JourneymanGeek What, according to you, are 'right reasons'? :P The whole idea of jobs is that you sell your time, so the only 'right' reason I can imagine is needing more money?

@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica :D

--- for strikethrough @EkadhSingh e.g. ---foo---: ~~foo~~

1:58 PM

Oh

space after last "-" needed

Thank you

yay!

And all in the edit window, impressive. :P

You foo'd your foo, you fo'

yah

admits guilt in shame

2:01 PM

There is a sanbox for this nonsense, next time use it :)

@Tinkeringbell wanted to tell @Ekadh how to format it in real time, before edit expires

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/17997464/…

@Luuklag image spam? It's really weird, and looks like more and more are doing it.

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 seeing is believing. Images tend to get people fired up more than a bunch of swearwords or just writing down a load of abuse. Flag 'em just the same.

@Tinkeringbell not what I do now 😁

2:12 PM

@JourneymanGeek I believe I've asked this before, but on those image-only/selfie posts, you guys are cool with rude flags on them right?

@Spevacus yes

cool /o/

@Spevacus why would they use rude flags?

@Ollie autonuke

@JourneymanGeek can't you use spam flags for that?

2:17 PM

@Ollie Technically it's not spam (no product or service is being promoted) it's an abuse of the system.

It is NAA (but iirc that isn’t autonuke)

@Ollie internally they work the same

@JourneymanGeek yerse... at that point, they're just known as red flags?

Indeed

@JourneymanGeek Hahaha

Same here, actually. :P

2:21 PM

@Ollie more or less

I mean you could custom flag but there's no real benefit over nuking the post unless there's a pattern of trolling

And I think a lot of them are genuinely confused

@JourneymanGeek They gave them back-to-back numbers? That never happens.

Well if they got hired back to back... why not?

And the openings were at roughly the same time

@JourneymanGeek @Slate and Vanny got hired back to back, didn't they? They had 945 and 948.

So what does "Associate" Community Manager mean?

Some sort of seniority label, I think?

Junior, Associate, Senior, Staff, or something like that

2:27 PM

@Spevacus lower seniority

@Mithical pretty much

/o/

Associate, CM and staff is what I have seen

Though the grades is new. It was just 'CM's in the old days

I think there's allegedly a level for interns

@Ollie got announced together. No idea what it is internally

@JourneymanGeek I wonder what happened to VA's 949, 950, 951...957

Probably other openings

marketing

2:31 PM

There's a lot of roles in sales and such who we never interact with

@KevinB I see a lot of engineering/sre openings too

That's positive

Yes there's a lot of sales and marketing roles. If they do well, the network hopefully does well...

i mean, whatever makes you feel good about it, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@KevinB I mean it is what it is

As long as we don't have another restructuring making us lose community resources I don't begrudge that

Then again we're in a situation where we pretty much are rebuilding the CM team from scratch cause it happened more then once so....

They better not blow it 😁

@KevinB more SREs and CMs? Yeah. Marketing and sales? Doesn't get me excited but it is something that helps keep the lights on.

Didn't they kinda gut their entire marketing team recently?

2:46 PM

@Mithical they killed off careers for all intents and purposes

I work in marketing and have for a long while, i'm certainly not going to disagree with marketing being valuable, ;)

I wouldn't say good riddance but it was kinda the part of the business that kept failing ._.

it just makes me someone who can see through the facade

Mad Scientist

@JourneymanGeek I'm still surprised how this stuff can fail easily when it's so damn expensive. But I suppose it's just a lot of people in the back for sales and marketing which are expensive as well

@MadScientist well ...

Its a crowded market

And I think nearly every programmer is either networking or getting a job online

2:51 PM

it's the one part i hated to see but also hate to see go

And the 'SO' brand wasn't as big a differenciator as they thought

we were effectively priced out of using SO Jobs

Mad Scientist

my other guess is that they were actually too expensive compared to the alternatives

so it as a business resource was useless for us

but for me personally... having a profile linked to it with 90k rep isn't a bad thing

For all the complaints - I have had better luck finding interesting jobs to apply over LinkedIn

2:53 PM

i hate linked in

I do too

it's done nothing but attract 3rd party business to repeatedly call me every day or email me every day about how we're failing because we aren't using their product

Lol

That's why people complain

from a job perspective, it did attract a few good offers years ago, but nothing in a long time

And if you know where you want to work you can go direct

So essentially.... What's the value add? 😁

Catija

2:56 PM

@Mithical There's no junior. and there's just a non-titled one between associate and senior.

'vanilla' CMs 😁

3:17 PM

@V2Blast o/

@Spevacus Hello! \o

Congratulations on your new job (and your recent move)!

has the rush of power gone to your head yet

@JourneymanGeek <3

@Spevacus Thank you!

@Mithical I hear a loud whooshing noise... is that supposed to happen?

Hmm. If it persists for more than four hours, see your doctor

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3:20 PM

@V2Blast I calls em as I sees em 😁

🚽

!!/tea

SmokeDetector

@V2Blast brews a cup of mint tea for @V2Blast

sdc tea-mixed-with-macchiato V2blast

SmokeDetector

@Ollie No such command 'tea-mixed-with-macchiato'.

3:35 PM

@JourneymanGeek Thanks. Mod always know what go around and ................. It's not all about link about content.

@Ollie are you trying to poison him?

Waffle for MOd.

@JourneymanGeek coffee mixed with tea is an excellent morning potion. You should try it.

I know I am going to kick when BLAME MOD .

@Ollie portion of what? projectile vomiting? :D

3:46 PM

@JourneymanGeek It gives you long canines, a hat, odd sense of humor and a distinctly blurry feeling about the chops.

uh... you got bitten by a werewolf ....

@JourneymanGeek no, I've been spending too much time in the Tavern ;)

Same thing.

Both make it quite difficult to connect to other human beings.

4:05 PM

i mean

that depends on what you mean by "connect"

@Mithical technically if you were a small dog...

(and I miss the little old doggo 😭)

Q: Resolving Community user and "share feedback" issues in review queues

4:18 PM

I'm going to zzzz but...

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On our announcement for our updates to review queue workflows, we got a ton of feedback on the Community user being the one posting comments for users. Here's a quick summary of some of the major points: It's not clear to many users that Community is a bot that they can't reply to Mods cannot d...

discussion review announcements

Going to drip this here first

Oh that sounds promising! Sleep well ..

@Luuklag We'll know when an Announcement suddenly switches to negative numbers. 😀

4:34 PM

@Spevacus Like someone who works at a big box store, or Starbucks, their name tag says "Associate"; associated practices are: having teams, too many meetings, and referring to employment as opportunities for the applicant. That is why businesses quit doing that over 25 years ago, people would hear a few of those terms being thrown around in an important manner, and knew that the opposite applied.

5:37 PM

@V2Blast out of curiosity, did your job description mention wether or not you would get poked by pointy sticks?

5:51 PM

@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica I don't recall off the top of my head... but I already knew that'd be a part of the job :P

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