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5:20 AM
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5:52 AM
@/meta how do you handle security exploits? i.e. how does one report them...I found a login exploit on a web app...I want to report it but it seems the agency doesnt provide a way to do so lol
 
 
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6:54 AM
@QueenieGoldstein use /contact ... just pick 'other' I guess.
 
@QueenieGoldstein what do you mean by agency?
"A web app" dosen't sound like this is a SE thing
 
7:18 AM
@QueenieGoldstein You already asked that in The DMZ (under a different name?). I don't think Tavern is the best place to ask. Or do you mean it's for an SE app?
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica tbh, that's almost a reasonable question for the DMZ
buuuut
it also depends :D
 
Yeah it is a fine question for The DMZ, but I mean here (this chat) it isn't.
@QueenieGoldstein seclists.org/fulldisclosure
 
 
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8:59 AM
@Tinkeringbell yay for featuring that !
 
@Luuklag DO NOT EVER GIVE ME A MINI-HEART-ATTACK LIKE THAT AGAIN!!!
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Sheesh. I thought I featured it networkwide instead of status-reviewed it XD
@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog You know, you could do with following your own advice, and make your flags actual requests too.
 
@Tinkeringbell I figured so, so I did
 
Calling an individual "scum" and "a degenerate" is against site-wide rules, right?
And if I edit a post to remove those terms and it's reverted, should I flag it?
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Yes, and yes
 
@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog No, you did not? The last two flags of you that I handled weren't requests, they were telling me what you wanted a mod to do.
 
There's a difference. You recommended Rob to 'ask', yet you never do so yourself.
 
Sorry, I'm having a bit of trouble trying to understand. So you're saying, I should phrase my flags as "can you please do [x]?" instead of "please do [x]."?
 
@Tinkeringbell Makes you know your alive xD
 
@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog I'm saying you should leave the 'do [x]' out of it entirely. And yes, a 'please' and an actual question mark would probably do wonders too.
 
9:34 AM
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Rob
9:52 AM
@Tinkeringbell Wonder why they are blocked for life ... They sometimes don't read a sufficient number of times, and then process the information using a short attention span. --- It's been clearly explained to use the contact link instead of pinging; with a lifetime ban there's but one way to change things.
 
@Rob I'm not sure what you're rambling on about, but no, Sonic is not going to get banned for life as far as I'm concerned. If there's stuff between you two going on, you probably want to use the contact link yourself and get a hold of someone that knows the history.
 
Well this escalated quickly...
 
Yep...
 
10:08 AM
:/
Very frustrating. I don't like being misrepresented. I'll leave it at that.
And now, for the weather! Overcast, with 40% chance of light showers!
@Rob In my experience, the contact link doesn't really work. It gives you a canned response as is the case with most companies (e.g. they mix up your case with someone else or don't understand the whole context). The typical "we have reviewed your case and after careful deliberation" stuff.
Amusingly, the one time I got suspended on MSE and sent a message to the contact link, they said I had already asked about my suspension as an MSE post so they saw no need to answer me in the email (which was ironic because, well, I was suspended so there was no way I could have posted). :D
But hey, at least SE isn't EA!
Hi JNat.
 
here to take care of the backlog @JNat?
 
I wouldn't wish that torture on anyone!
 
@Luuklag maybe later
 
Probably isn't too big yet
 
10:28 AM
What's not big?
looking at @M.A.R.
ohhh... I know! The coffee for @Ollie
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating backlog
 
@Luuklag boo
boring.
:D
 
It's been much more exciting before.
With spammers and trolls and everything.
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica saw something about heart attacks in trash can, probably better leave it there. Where are the spammers??
 
10:32 AM
eww
Eat some chocolate
 
Yeah heart attacks and ableism. By spammers I mean that uh.
What's that bot that always reports the really dumb spammers here?
 
So your burp will at least smell good, @Journeyman ;)
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Smokey
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica yanno, there's literally no point in saying "I'll leave it at that" and... not leaving it at that.
 
hey, I see no reports for.... two hours?! Smokey is... dead??
 
@JourneymanGeek Meh. Someone mentioned it again so I responded.
Smokey, that's the name. Maybe the spammers are dead.
 
10:34 AM
@JourneymanGeek I'm to blame
 
!!/alive
 
@JourneymanGeek Of course
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating It's Sonic the Curiouser Hedgehog's fault.
 
Sonic ^
!!/why no spam for 2 hours?
 
10:34 AM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating No such command 'why'.
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating I find people tend to blame me over things more often than not. I'm an easy target because I like pushing people's buttons. :D
(Admittedly I probably shouldn't, but it's fun! /s)
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica you nailed it
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating It's the price that comes with the job, ya know?
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica yup
 
or maybe you do realise some of those buttons go boom!
 
10:36 AM
@JourneymanGeek Ironically, I'm never suspended when I'm pushing buttons, only when I say something that I genuinely think is fine to say. That's what I find most hilarious.
I'm a troll when I'm not trolling, and when I am trolling, I'm not!
 
Oh definitely a troll. But I'm a helpful troll who answers questions. :)
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica lol not you
Click the link. ;)
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating no he can't :D
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating troll
 
10:37 AM
@JourneymanGeek he who?
 
I mean he can, but...
 
Low-quality troll perhaps?
I miss the days when I was so dedicated that I could shut down entire networks after getting b&. I was so successful. I've really let myself go. I've gone tame. :(
@Luuklag How do you know? It shows he has no posts.
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Seen the user before on smokey reports
 
10:40 AM
@Luuklag nothing on SU
 
I'm 100% sure I've seen it before
not sure where though
 
Could be someone with the same name?
Name collisions are a thing here, for some odd reason.
 
Perhaps he has more delted posts on MSE @JourneymanGeek?
 
maybe that's where I recall him from then?
 
10:43 AM
(Looks like my edit request on a post calling someone "a degenerate" was rejected. Flagging it as suggested. People can be horrible people, but...)
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica link?
 
They just added "I will NOT stop calling that degenerate a degenerate. Thanks!" :D
@Luuklag parenting.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/26969 (tl;dr someone was accused of being a pedophile, and rather than calling them a horrible person, they're using the term "a degenerate" right after calling them physically disabled. Obviously the person is a horrible person if the accusations are true, but that's irrelevant)
@Luuklag Would it be better to add another edit request or just straight up flag?
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica no point in starting an edit war
 
Fair enough.
If someone really feels the need to insult someone, I find there are better terms to use.
 
I didn't have the same though around the word as you do though.
Might be something that only native speakers know?
 
10:51 AM
Maybe. It's a particular issue in the US with the alt-right.
Since it's a catch-all term for people who are "less evolved" and whatnot, sort of like the term "subhuman" in its racist connotations.
 
11:41 AM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica I would also reject it. You change the meaning of the post.
If you find it offensive, flag. That's about it. :)
 
there is your spammer btw @Sha
ˆˆˆ
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating I suppose there might be a better term I could replace it with. Couldn't think of anything beyond "awful person".
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica not your place to replace.
We can, and should, fix grammar, syntax, etc.
 
I think racist terms should be replaced by anyone.
 
11:43 AM
We should not find better words to put.
 
Just as with sexist terms, or ableist terms, or homophobic terms, or... etc
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica degenerate is not racist in any way.
 
(background: I used to work with developmentally delayed children for volunteer work. The number of times I've heard "degenerate" thrown around was sickening. It's not just racist, it's ableist)
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating In the US it has very alt-right and nazi-like connotations, like "subhuman". At least when used as a noun (not a verb).
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica never heard about it. And can't find any proof to what you say.
 
Might not be like that in your culture.
 
11:46 AM
Anyway like I said.... if somehow a post offends you, flag it as offensive.
 
I did. But like I said, I'm thinking about US culture (at risk of being Americentric myself...)
 
Don't make it non-offensive to you by changing it.
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Or in this case, if its really a niche thing, you might be better served by a custom flag laying out your case
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Eh, it's generally recommended to edit out potentially offensive terms.
On RC.SE, a post "father of X" was changed to "creator of X" to avoid sexism.
That sort of thing (although in that particular case, it was controversial).
@Luuklag Right, I used a custom flag. I think R&A is more for blatant attacks.
(Another example, although it was on another site's meta, was a user calling a malware author "scum" or something, which I also edited out. Another user also used that term, but removed it themselves)
 
Anyway.... as long as the father don't leave the children alone with the uncle, really can't see any problem. Might form some answer if I'll have time and other answers won't cover it. (The TL;DR is: "no need to ban someone for life because of past mistakes or bad actions")
And with that, got to go. Cya!
 
11:52 AM
Don't dwell on it too long. You flagged it, thats all you could do.
cya
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Yeah it's a pretty simple case of "don't let them near him".
@Luuklag I'm honestly more irked at the other example on Security meta, but that's probably because I feel personally insulted by that one lol
Malware dev lives matter. :D
I don't know why, but I always feel dirty saying "malware". Sure, things like rootkits are malware but it always makes me think of low-effort viruses and trojans.
I guess "vxers" is a better term.
Best fan theory:
> The Jetsons and The Flintstones take place at the same time, with the ultra-elite 1% living in the clouds far above a post-apocalyptic Earth where the mass of humanity struggles to survive among mutated animals.
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica not "near them"? OP said he has both a son and a daughter. Didn't read into it enough to check what the uncle "prefers", but likely both... No?
 
Dunno, why would he like both?
 
12:08 PM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica from what I understand, the disorder is to be attracted to young age, gender doesn't matter. I might be wrong though.
 
Honestly, this isn't really something that is a good topic for discussion ... at least not in a chatroom everyone frequents. Go talk on Twitter DMs or something if you two have to guess at workings of the mind of Uncle?
 
I don't even use Twitter.
And @Tinkeringbell I'm pretty sure it's Uncle, not Uncle, judging by the post. :D
(The bold is important!)
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Discord?
 
I don't use Discord either. I use IRC and email.
 
12:09 PM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica WhatsApp? LINE? ;)
 
IPS chat ;)
 
And sometimes XMPP.
 
@Luuklag Nope.
 
12:09 PM
Never been in IPS chat.
 
messenger pidgeon ;)
 
Just pick a youtube video and start talking in the comments.
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Let's keep it that way.
 
Is it a fun place to be? :D
 
@Tinkeringbell yes! And blame you when banned
 
12:10 PM
@Tinkeringbell Hey I'm allowed in chat!
(Now I'm just curious to see what sort of convos are had there)
Oh wow it's more active than I thought. The site is kind of slow so I assumed the chat would be too.
 
You've been in there before and as far as I remember, it was annoying.
Maybe even ended worse than just 'annoying' too.
 
I'm pretty sure I've never been there before, or at least never spoken.
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=forest&room=61165 < There's several "@forest" in there
So unless there's another one running around with the same nickname and behavior patterns..
 
Oh huh, I have been in there before.
Why do I have no memory of that?
 
Can we keep it civil here guys, plenty of low blows going through the air now IMHO
 
12:13 PM
You were probably high....
 
@Luuklag Sorry. Duck!
Or jump...
If you can jump that high.
 
Donald?
 
Uh
 
12:14 PM
Looking through my message, I appear to be quite tame in there.
I must have been either too high, or not high enough.
 
No tame no fame
!!/fame
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating No such command 'fame'.
 
No fame for you sha
only
!!/coffee Sha
 
@Luuklag brews a cup of Latte for @Sha
 
12:17 PM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Deleted or moved stuff won't show up in there XD
 
lol
@Tinkeringbell As usual, if I seem to be getting particularly annoying, please do tell me before I get myself suspended. :P
 
@JourneymanGeek If you know about entrance exam - JEE main... the agency is NTA
 
I don't know much about indian exams or agencies
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica I asked on MSE too under another name..I was just taking suggestions on chat because DMZ is a bit less active.
@TheforestofReinstateMonica National testing agency : Govt of India
 
12:20 PM
DMZ is active at different times of the week.
 
I see. And it's their web app that's vulnerable?
 
@Luuklag :(
@SmokeDetector :)
 
I think Information Security actually has some canonical questions about reporting vulns.
tl;dr if all else fails, just use full disclosure
 
12:26 PM
Thank you.
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica ^ also, I dont see the login option there...but there's a way I got it lol
 
Got in without a login?
 
i found national critical info reporting center...and they are taking in my details lol...I am scared to report the info now xD
@TheforestofReinstateMonica Got in and have edit priveleges without requiring passowrd
 
only through knowledge of public records
 
12:27 PM
I can report it for you :P
Or "report" it
 
i.e. roll numbers and date of birth
 
Oh wow, edit privs only require knowing some user ID?
 
NTA was stupid enough to upload the roll numbers of 30 "toppers"
@TheforestofReinstateMonica yes....virtually I can brute force the DOB as well LOL
 
@QueenieGoldstein seeing that it is a test, you must have some window your looking in, so that wouldn't take too long
 
12:29 PM
@Luuklag ?? I didnt understand
 
Well there must be some common age people take those test at
so if you want to bruteforce you would only have to do certain years
 
Brute forcing DOB is easy, even if you don't know the range.
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica yeah the combinations aren't endless
 
@Luuklag yupp 2000 to 2004 at max...although the majority would be in 2002-2003
Only that there's a captcha....but 365+365 attempts is very small compared to the prize outthere lol
Oh and did I say ...there's no trial limit
 
wow
So what is that for? Some kind of national test?
 
12:33 PM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica yes...engineering entrance exam...it is notoriously famous...I am surprised some people dont know LOL
 
This'll be fun.
If they have no way to report it, why don't you just go FD?
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica FD?
 
Full Disclosure.
 
I found a critical info report center: nciipc.gov.in/documents/Vulnerability_Disclosure_Form.pdf NCIIPC
 
12:36 PM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica so that they send the army to my doorstep? XD
 
Is it illegal to report bugs there?
 
BTW @Luuklag here is why the name was familiar
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica it's bug...but also compromises 1M users
 
Mar 4 at 13:38, by Luuklag
@jnat does a cross site plagiarism spammer also count? https://stackexchange.com/users/20734953/ali-hassan?tab=accounts
So yes, troll it is.
 
12:47 PM
> What's Dnd Is it a board game if it is How is it played answer quickly or die fools
lolol
That's the most clever "give me my answer now" I've heard!
 
12:59 PM
OP has the informed badge so... maybe he needs to inform himself more informatively
 
OP is a god among men.
 
"Neither Gods nor Kings, only men"
and dogs, parrots...
 
And all the associated woodland critters.
 
@ymb1 hi, regarding your recent bug report, I'd wait a little while before deleting, maybe someone else can repro.
 
1:11 PM
@JourneymanGeek Sorry... parrot is busy...
 
Parrot wants quacker?
 
A rubber ducky could be useful :D
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating I'm thinking maybe the page didn't load correctly for one reason or another; I'll revisit if it happens again with a second screenshot; I'm fairly active editor
 
But no, I was busy 'planning' my vacation.
Just make the system think I actually have 6 weeks of PTO planned for this year, though no one knows when XD
Makes it so my manager gets less spam about employees not taking their time off :P
 
why does security exploit reporting have to be so intimidating
 
1:13 PM
NOW I can go back to trying and fix all the errors in my code ;)
 
I am now scared to report the bug I found,,,fearing criminal records...
 
@Tinkeringbell I'm not sure yet but It might take a while to 're-hire me' so even if I end up staying here, I might have a month or two of 'unemployment'
I'm wierdly looking forward to it
 
@ymb1 fair enough, JS sometimes indeed get "stuck", then e.g. clicking the inbox will take you to the inbox on se.com instead of opening your messages.
 
(Hoping aws pans out, I'm not actually sure what my current employer intends yet and the company I'm contracting for might be able to line me up another gig, but no promises :D )
 
how about i report a login exploit as a minor thing lol...i would say...I could get in easily, please make it difficult
 
1:16 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating thanks for the quick feedback ;)
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm taking 2 days off in 2 weeks from now... just because mom/dad aren't home so that means I can be even more lazy than usual XD
 
lol
I just want to clear by backlog of things to do
 
Hmm. I have a bag, blanket and stuffed animal to finish crocheting, one blanket to repair, and then I could do some gaming... it's not that much of a backlog XD
 
I need to re-organise my room, Ash keeps getting stuck in stuff
then get my old PC working again (its set up but I had to move it out for some reason)
try to sleep regular hours for the first time in years :D
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating It usually loads to slow, especially on mobile. I more often then not end up on the SE.com inbox
really annoying
 
1:38 PM
@JourneymanGeek That is one of my main reasons for taking a few days off: Just sleep in, for a very long time. On usual weekends I don't really get to do that as my parents seem to think 9AM is a fine time to start making noise.
(Though I'm not sure how much sleep I will get with all the rest of the neighborhood having usual 'work hours', I'm hoping ..... I'm naive XD)
 
@Tinkeringbell lucky you
9 AM would be the most sleeping in I've done in years
I'm lucky if I manage to stay in bed past 7 AM
 
I can easily sleep until 10 or 11. If only people would let me!
 
@Tinkeringbell I mean, wake up at 6.30 :D
But every day at the same time
 
Yeah, rhythm does a lot too. I can do 'wake up at 6:15 every workday' easily too, but only if it's every workday. If it's one day during a vacation (when I'm used to sleeping in)... I'm screwed.
 
Its also the feeling of having "more" time :D
 
1:55 PM
Its mostly kids wanting out of their beds for me
 
2:07 PM
@Luuklag Yeah... another reason for me to not get started on those XD
 
Don't you lack the essentials for those as well ;)
Technically everything is possible these days, so if you really wanted there are options ;)
 
@Luuklag Exactly :P
But yeah, I'm practicing things very safely :P
 
With baby born ;)
Not like my message with 1 star in the sidebar here xD
 
Hahaha
 
Well that was enough NSFW chat at work for today xD
 
2:17 PM
Awww :P
I don't think I ever even had a baby born when I was little.
I had 1 doll but it was bigger.
 
2:29 PM
We have several in the house, they all play with them
I think one is a real baby born, and the others are more like Action brands
 
Hahaha I didn't care much about dolls when I was little. I remember once getting a huge Barbie camper thing, and all I cared for was putting everything together. Never played with it after that.
Next year, it went to the neighbor girl for a birthday present, she loved playing with it anytime she came over XD
 
Hahaha, sounds like your the typical IT woman ;)
 
Of course :P
I mean I did grew up with lots of crafts and glitters and pink and dresses :P
Just not dolls XD
 
Rob
@Luuklag Yup, no good deed goes unpunished; with those three
 
I still cant comprehend what happened there
Guess its an insider thing\
Unlike my starred message in the sidebar xD
@Luuklag Oops I invalidated my own message now
 
2:43 PM
... there's just no turning back now ;)
 
Feel free to chip in xD
If you have some time to spare, willing to drop the delete hammer on this one meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361932/… @Tinkeringbell
 
Done :)
 
2:58 PM
thx :)
 
3:47 PM
 
champagne problems
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating got the second dose?
 
@QueenieGoldstein yeah, couple of weeks ago
Got official stamp that I'm vaccinated. :)
 
Is displaying rep like this in the revision list something new?
 
3:57 PM
@Luuklag yes, recent bug
Already reported.
 
okay cool, saves some time I don't have xD
 
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Q: Make display of reputation in revisions list consistent with the rest of the flairs again

GlorfindelThe flair for users in the revision list, for example here, shows the exact amount of reputation: This is not consistent with how the flair works on (all?) other places in the site, e.g. under a post. There, the amount is displayed in units of thousands (k): (or, in very special cases, millions...

 
Tink, Journ, time for status-review on that?
 
Also...does S.E. do something on april fools? xD Never been on SE in april...I just joined in july 2020 if I remember correctly
 
Well I'm heading home
 
4:01 PM
careful!
 
@rene Excellent timing, an Ambulance just drives by xD
 
@QueenieGoldstein yes
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating You did so well that instead of a Badge they commissioned the printing of a sign for your office.
 
Even a tag for that:
Best so far, by far, in my opinion, was the game with Jon Skeet riding unicorn.
 
woah lol, I'll go through the posts
 
4:05 PM
Wait, it was in April Fools, right? lol
It was! Five years ago.
69
Q: Play Unikong Forever

Shadow Wizard is VaccinatingCan the game please be kept after today, even just as some hidden, super secret link? Pretty please?

 
@Luuklag tail gate to get pass all red lights
 
Rob
@rene or build a M.I.R.T..
 
4:21 PM
@Rob so ... what is the fine if you're caught with that device?
 
Rob
It varies depending on location.
 
Teresa Dietrich on March 10, 2021
Teresa Dietrich leads Product, Community, and Engineering at Stack Overflow. She will be posting quarterly updates laying out key accomplishments and future goals.
 
Rob
@rene Tailgating, speeding, reckless driving, interfering with an emergency vehicle, and piggybacking on their strobe is going to net you a much larger penalty.
 
🚽
 
Rob
4:54 PM
🪥🗞️
 
@rene I wouldn't be able to keep up on my bike. Besides that there are no traffic lights on my route
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Thanks! ;)
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Actually I find destroying spammers/trolls rather satisfying... although I make do with red flags...
 
@Luuklag Ah, yeah that is some challenge ;)
Congrats on your first answer on MSO @Rosie and welcome to a vibrant Meta site ;)
2
 
5:21 PM
Hellooo Rosie!
 
Thanks @rene and @QueenieGoldstein

I hope everyone is doing well on this...Wednesday? I have zero concept of days anymore. :O
 
Yep. It's the third Monday of this week :)
 
@Rosie Tuesday.
And a half. Not sure ;)
 
LOL, I always feel like I'm a day off. It's like getting packages from Amazon they either arrive a day early or late but never on the actual day they are supposed to come.

Like there is a 50% I'm correct about what day I think it is.
 
There's pills that can help you remember ;) They've been ideal for me during these times XD
 
5:32 PM
@Tinkeringbell Potentially bad keyword in body: pills.
 
Hey, at least mine aren't blue...
 
What color are they?
 
white/beige?
 
Beige is much worse. Keep it.
 
I wasn't planning on sharing XD
That would mess up the schedule and I won't remember what day it is!
 
5:35 PM
You should! Go post on Meta, so everyone can enjoy them.
*grins evilly*
 
 
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7:12 PM
@Rosie every day feels like it's Tuesday
Smack in the middle of a week and still a while off before you can rest.
 
Rob
7:37 PM
Jan 27 at 20:47, by Rob
@Spevacus Mostly it's the first line intro, and an explanation of their profession; it's not every female starting with "Mel" --- Meleena Mellie Melcia Melonie Melynda (x2), but not Mellyluise - "I am X and I am a professional photographer (or Illustrator).".
 
8:31 PM
🍟
 
9:01 PM
Yummy
 
 
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10:16 PM
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Yanno, its 'just' me but I find its so pleasant to find a blog post with a meta post already there from the company with no prompting :D
@Tinkeringbell I just have a monthly calender with my work schedule and days that have passed printed out :D
 

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