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05:53
yikes people get really unsettled about the coronavirus here
06:05
....
Seriously? :D
protip. Stock up on masks and hand sanitizers before people panic :D
 
1 hour later…
07:29
@JourneymanGeek There's been lots of cases in Italy recently. France is going crazy too.
@JourneymanGeek We're already out of order :p it's been for weeks now
07:41
morning
@JourneymanGeek there are talks that they'll limit how much groceries people can buy at once
oh they did that here
!!/tea
@V2Blast brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @V2Blast
my dad is really worried and starting to stack up on water, canned food and toiletries
mor ning
@Magisch Rumors here are that it's a biological weapon getting out of control, just like in all the "end of the world" movies.
The main "proof" is that there is a biological lab in the city where it all started.
And the stories about sick bats are just fake/coverup.
07:50
if it's a bioweapon it's not a great one at like 4% mortality
so I dont buy that
@Magisch well it's not finished yet
also, it don't matter. Even 20% of the population getting the flu at once would be serious societal disruption
Or, another option, it went to bats by mistake, and got weaker by that.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou either its a really useless biovirus, or one that seems better and ruining the economy of its source than anything else
Yeah well China leadership wants to make China great, but doubt even they will do such thing on purpose.
07:52
So... a few bits of history
(spread chaos in the world just to be able to save it later.)
Basically any chinese leader who does bioweapons is... basically going to be an enemy of the people. And I don't mean in the communist sense
@JourneymanGeek umm... no such thing in China.
china has been hurt by this more then any other country
People can't be enemy of their government.
07:53
even when this outbreak passes the sheer amount of prejudice against its citizens
Ethnic chinese still remember WW2 and... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
It's imprinted so deep, it's more than instinct.
No offence but - the Japanese in ww2 basically tried the same sort of ethnic cleansing as the germans. But... without any pretence of anything other than "we can"
@JourneymanGeek didn't learn it very deep, what I remember is just that Japan chose to be allies with Germany as they thought they're the winning side. No?
Well kinda
07:56
At least here in Israel, no hard feelings towards Japan, so what race they tried to cleanse?
But they also performed ethnic cleansing and random killings on chinese in china and south east easia
In every war soldiers perform random killings and worse.
Was organised
The Sook Ching (simplified Chinese: 肃清; traditional Chinese: 肅清; pinyin: Sùqīng; Jyutping: suk1 cing1; Pe̍h-ōe-jī: Siok-chheng, meaning 'purge through cleansing') was a systematic purge of perceived hostile elements among the Chinese in Singapore by the Japanese military during the Japanese occupation of Singapore and Malaya, after the British colony surrendered on 15 February 1942 following the Battle of Singapore. The purge took place from 18 February to 4 March 1942 at various places in the region. The operation was overseen by the Imperial Japanese Army's Kenpeitai secret police and subsequently...
Also look up unit 731. That stuff's pretty trigger warning worthy
The nazis had a dumbass idea of racial purity. A lot of the japanese killings were literally designed to just scare folks who stood up to them into fear
Well, Japan leadership changed drastically since then, and probably their mentality as well.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou True, but imagine how the chinese would feel about biological warefare research gone wild in their own country?
When the japanese did it, and almost every schoolkid probably learns about it in school
08:06
@JourneymanGeek doubt even this will cause a rebellion.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou It might actually
And if it's a mistake, well, mistakes happen. Some just cause more damage than others.
It is one of those lines you don't cross
@JourneymanGeek I'm pretty sure many countries work secretly on developing bio weapons. What's the difference?
History I guess
08:23
@JNat cross site spammer to start your day.... thanks! :)
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou pretty sure if that came out here we'd put the entire government on trial for that
@Magisch what? If there's an accident while developing bio weapon?
That the government is developing a bioweapon
hahaahahah
I bet they are.
In Israel it's one of those "public secrets" - all know about it, but can't confirm officially.
I think you overestimate our military spending
08:34
Not sure the budget is taken from same source as military, it's different branch. I think.
It's under "Super duper classified projects"
Can be part of university research too, you know. ;)
!!/corona virus
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou No such command 'corona'.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou please, no need for jokes on that.
people are really freaking out here
austria has closed the border with italy, and people here are starting to prep, they think it's inevitable that it'll arrive here.
08:50
Oo
Closed borders....in Europe? 😱
@Magisch I think the same tbh
the UK is lucky, that we are a island
but it'll make it over.
@JourneymanGeek there's 50,000 people in lockdown in Italy apparently.
@JourneymanGeek our government is considering prohibiting travel to italy
depending on how the situation develops
they're already planning out potential lockdown here, it'll probably be done similarly. If enough cases pop out in a municipality they'll put the entire group of cities under quarantine
That's kinda a thing. We didn't actually get as far as mass quarantine
"Shadow Wizard is Ear for You" - I lolled :)
09:11
@Gimby my pleasure! :P
@BlueSoul so... panic instead?
09:24
31 mins ago, by djsmiley2k TMW
@JourneymanGeek there's 50,000 people in lockdown in Italy apparently.
Guess what? we probably have a decent amount of users that live there.
Well at this point it's pretty correct to say it's worldwide.
Quarantine doesn't help since the people put in lockdown/quarantine already were in touch with other people.
So yeah, it's bad.
But life goes on.... the healthy people will keep looking for a cure/vaccine. Humanity will survive. And this room too. So.... I prefer to keep the little amount of fun/humor still around, than sinking in agony/panic. :)
That said.... anyone here know someone who is in lockdown/trouble due to the virus? I can actually listen, it's not just a name. :)
And spammers will likely keep spamming long after humanity is extinct. :D
huh? But that's no spam...
Smokey you missed the real spam... (reported a different answer as the spam while it's not.)
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or did they?
Report should be per post, not question, IMO.
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09:40
I don't think it is
meh... not really important. But this is:
!!/coffee
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou brews a cup of Affogato for @ShadowWizardisEarForYou
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I remember posting an answer to a fp-reported question, which then was reported by smokey as well
@JAD hmm... so something weird is going on.
!!/blame
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou It's terdon's fault.
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@ShadowWizardisEarForYou something is indeed. It seems my ping settings were reset :#
@JAD ping settings?? I'm not aware we have any.
Unless it's a userscript?
SE settings in general are very.... minimal.
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@ShadowWizardisEarForYou those I meant. They went from silent to ping ahead
@JAD where are those settings? Link or screenshot plz. :)
Maybe it's the browser, not SE... (e.g. Chrome let you mute a tab/site)
09:44
ohhhh
So that's not just decoration.....
:D
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sorry for the non-red-ness of the circle
we'll forgive you
... this time
;)
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:>
@JAD how are the reptiles?
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I was just gonna say, it seems like Snor has finally recovered from what was bothering her last x-mas
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\o/
@JAD \o/
healthy snor is good for the world
@JAD any idea what was bothering her? (So you can prevent it in the future?)
Who's Snor? :)
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yep, she shed twice in like 5 weeks time, laid a huge dump last week, and that seems to have cleared her system
@V2Blast Snor is my Boa constrictor
09:47
lol thanks for the details :D
What color is a snake's dump?
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@ShadowWizardisEarForYou vet suspected a intestinal infection, but it didn't clear right away after medication, but it seems to have come clear now
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@ShadowWizardisEarForYou It's a mixture, they secrete poo and urea through the same hole, so part comes out as a limey-white stuff (urea), part as dark brown turd (pretty dense, otherwise comparable to dog-poo)
@JAD huh, so "brown" is the answer. Same hole isn't relevant, humans also re-use the pipes to take out different stuff. :)
@JAD how long does a boa constrictor live?
09:50
Thought for reptiles the color is different.
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@ShadowWizardisEarForYou you don't pee through the anus I assume?
@JAD not that pipe
Other pipe... in males...
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well, that's the point
females too fyi
@avazula 20 odd years
@JAD wat
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she's 3 now
09:51
Baby!
lol
20 is quite like cats, no?
@JAD whaat? putting self reminder to check
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@avazula This is getting into triggering-@BlueSoul territory here
We already have long ago, @JAD ;)
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¯\(°_o)/¯
(when you first mentioned the word "dump", and it got "worse" since.... ;))
I must be missing something here...
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09:54
humans don't pee from the anus, snakes do, although due to that it's called cloaca instead of anus.

That's about as much as you have to know to be up to speed.
@JAD nah, @ava means what you said here... :/
(I'm baffled too, but will check with my own sources ;))
@JAD and then I was confused about the reference to BlueSoul. This whole conversation is confusing me :p
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou that is ... simply not true, if we're talking about what I think we are
@avazula oh.... @BlueSoul is very.... sensitive... to any "uncouth" discussion. And toilets is well inside the territory of uncouth. :)
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^
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Makes more sense :p
09:56
the election on TWP and space starts proper today
e.g the actual election phase. It does not look like either site will have a primary
@avazula I suspect I know what JAD means, can't say it here though. :(
@Magisch how many legit candidate?
(i.e. not trolls and not new users)
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou 3
Not bad
Expected less to be honest.
Good people too
It's gonna be an interesting election.
a 4th is expected before nominations close
09:58
@Magisch Joe?
(darkcygnus has indicated he wants to run)
ooh!
09:59
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou I'm also running, but I already submitted
Good!
Might take part then... usually I don't bother in the small sites.
(I mean voting, not running)
Any stats on mods coming back from exile and getting their diamond back?
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou chokes small sites? TWP? o_o
@avazula well... non-SO sites. :)
It's not really a fair comparison. lol
compared to the trilogy sites TWP is rather small
@Magisch SO, AU, SU?
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10:02
SU/SF/SO
I think
what JAD said, I think
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Server fault
TWP is a special case because it gets comparably few questions, but comparably many answers and many more comments
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10:02
not scifi
It all began with three sites... ;)
I wouldn't be surprised AU gathers more traffic than SF or SU but since Ubuntu has designated it as its official support system ...
SO, SF and SU , A trilogy in 4 parts :D
@Magisch maybe because it involves real life, people, and emotions. Like IPS.
I can't imagine how harmful it might have been for AU
10:03
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Ah, nice :D
So topics there are more... charged... many times.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou we're virtual therapists ;)
(jk)
(I wish new users knew that's a joke)
@avazula dont let tink hear that
or you might get hit with a wing
10:04
@avazula first they need to know the meaning of downvotes.... :/
spits some feathers
@Magisch Tink flew away, we're safe. For now. :D
Oh great, I delayed my pee and now it's gone. But I know it will be back to haunt me when I least expect it. sob
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Yup. But honestly that's not the hardest part. The hardest part surely is ... I don't know, my heart swings between the "what should I do" questions and the people who don't understand the need for backup
@avazula in TWP? Or IPS?
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou IPS. I'm a mod over there.
10:07
on TWP backup is optional
@avazula oh... nice! Tink is still there then? (Think she is, last I checked she was away "only" from MSE)
on IPS it is mandatory
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou she is :)
@avazula great! Say "hi" from a Shadow... :P
We have an amazing team of mods. They're great people. I'm blessed to be part of such team.
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou will do! :)
10:08
Yup
@JourneymanGeek to... what? ;)
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Yes.
You can't just say "Yup" out in the open.
:D
Yup to @JAD's Boa snake? Yup to the discussion about pipes? Or something else? :P
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Tink is only away from MSE, (and actually not a bad time since for once things are mostly quiet) and the IPS mods are great.
@JourneymanGeek oh. Yup it is.
10:12
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Yup.
:P
not to be confused with the boa correlator
@JAD saw what you meant, but still don't think it counts. But better continue this discussion over a more private channel, e.g. Discord or Twitter... ;)
feeds off of logical connections
(or just non-SE channel)
@V2Blast grr
or the boa contractor (snake for hire)
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not the Boa constructor?
that one feeds off abstract constructs
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it's very good in criticism
or for the army
the boa conscriptor
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and of course it's a python framework
hey, a lot of developers are pun afficionados
the language is called python, the snake puns write themselves
@JAD Currently left the room for other reasons. Go ahead and have fun, apparently no one else cares.
Be aware thought that this probably would fall in the "boys be boys" territory of "nice and welcoming"
10:35
@Blue you're more... blue.. than usual today, hope everything is fine? (For you personally)
!!/tea Magi
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou brews a cup of chamomile tea for @Magi
I'm back at work
better then last week, not entirely over it but getting there
@Magisch glad to hear! co-workers gave you a warm welcoming back? :)
eh
work, more work
some more work
10:42
ouch
So the piles of work welcomed you back.
Guess that works too.
kada boom
So, who got this car around here?
It costs less than $2M
...and reach from 0 to 60 MPH in less than 2 seconds...
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou I had two, I gave one to my younger brother
@JourneymanGeek Death toll here has reached 12.
@It'sOver and he ate it?
Yeah, panic. Some of it, a small portion of it, reasonable, the rest is just making everything harder
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Yeah
Fun fact: Carbon fiber tastes like chocolate
Or chicken.
@It'sOver or gummy
@It'sOver So you're not one of those 12. And hope that you're fine with jokes about it? :)
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Sure man
10:56
I mean... it reached Israel too... just luck we don't have casualties yet. And I'm fine with joking about it because heck.... what else can we do?
Having helloed death and been back myself, I think the only way to deal with disease is to laugh at it
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Just don't go crazy on vitamin C
My only near death experience is when a canon shell fell 200 meters away and made a big boom, luckily it didn't land on explosives that were also nearby.
(think it was at 2006, maybe bit before)
@It'sOver huh? Why? lol
With this new COVID thing I rerererealized how people worship vitamin C like it's the . . . pill of youth
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou Let's suspend @canon
10:59
@canon's shell.... yeah! Now I know who to blame! :P
For dispersing his . . . shells here and there
(her?)
Pretty sure it's a "he", but not 100%

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