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6:00 PM
In the end, moderators are humans too and a big part of our job is building a community. Humor is one such thing that makes an excellent tool, but also creates this 'in' vs 'out' group dynamic for people that don't see it.
 
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica Just so we're all clear on this, mind linking to what specific thing you're considering as rude?
 
@Tinkeringbell for what it's worth, I haven't seen rude sarcastic remarks from you. You generally are one of the most level-headed moderators I've interacted with.
 
I have a higher threshold for rudeness than most; I specifically prefer direct feedback in many cases.
 
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica Just keep your eyes open then. ;)
 
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog that was more of an example of how rudeness involves a cultural perspective. It was a chat a while back where @Tinkeringbell called you out for bringing your part of the HNQ fiasco.
 
6:03 PM
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica Yeah, the main thing I didn't like was her direct assumption that I was asking for pity when I was simply mentioning things that I thought were relevant to the context.
 
OR attention. You're doing it again.
Only half quoting stuff isn't nice.
 
Here's a good example, mocking tone, "stanza in the Book of Grievances", aligns with the viewpoint often expressed here in chat, that our frustration is just a desire for hand-wringing
@Tinkeringbell and you're doing it again.
 
Doing what, sorry?
 
I brought it up. @SonictheReinstateMonica-hog isn't looking for attention,
That was a simple expression of his experience of the conversation, which was already on the table, and entirely appropriate.
 
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica Yep, I'm being direct because flowery language has failed before to address this problem. :)
again, half quoting stuff is not okay.
It hides any nuance that might've been in those messages.
And looks like you're writing your own personal narrative.
 
6:07 PM
Using too much of flowery language is a great way to plant the seeds of doubt in your trustworthiness
 
@Tinkeringbell it's not a problem for him to explain his experience of a conversation, when that is exactly the topic of conversation (brought up by someone else). It is a problem for you to shut it down.
 
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica I did not shut it down. I pointed out that only half was quoted.
And that that was not okay.
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica If stuff isn't flagged, moderators are unlikely to become aware that it can go.
 
Well, I disagree. I think you're being rude right now. I suppose what is more important is whether @SonictheReinstateMonica-hog agrees.
It was flagged. And declined.
 
This isn't rude in my opinion.
 
I'm not capable of keeping up with all comment threads here lately, some of them are just draining to pick through afterwards let alone keep up with while they're unfolding.
 
6:09 PM
There we have it :)
 
Not liking someone's actions and disagreeing with them isn't the same as saying that those were necessarily rude.
 
@DeNovosupportsGoFundMonica Meh. If we're just here to get me to reply to something to make a point, I'll disengage.
Byebye!
 
In the case of the prior conversation, after I was told that it didn't fit the context, I dropped it.
 
@Tinkeringbell you engaged with me. I was continuing the conversation. There was no nefarious purpose. I"m sorry if I upset you though :)
 
6:11 PM
Is it kitten time?
 
Will you have waffles with your kitten?
 
Well that's just adorable. I'm open to waffles!
 
!!/coffee
 
@curious brews a cup of Cappuccino for @curious
 
6:14 PM
Thanks @curious
 
@curious kittens, natures proof that cute is a survival mechanism
 
How about kitties and waffles
 
6:30 PM
@curious and two of them!!
 
While we're increasing things, can we increase downvote impact to -10? I fully embrace my rep loss if it's applied retroactively.
@curious is the one on the right burnt or is that some kind of chocolate suace?
 
user168476
It looks like some sort of sauce or chocolate
 
6:48 PM
@curious Make that some stroopwafels; it's been a while since I've had some
 
6:59 PM
I guess if you drop a bomb on your house it won’t be on fire any more
 
that depends on the size of the bomb
and the size of the house
and teh nature of the fire
 
7:15 PM
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog Stroopwafels WITH chocolate on top? That's...decadent.
The house offers a fine choice of various fires; you can roast them over whichever one you choose :)
 
7:34 PM
@Tinkeringbell i just realized what happened. "There we have it" was in reply to @SonictheReinstateMonica-hog saying it wasn't rude. I said it was more important what Sonic thought, he said it wasn't rude, I said "There we have it". It seems you thought it was a mike drop of sorts on something you said. Context and threading :)
 
user206222
As a funny side effect of the change, I just earned 21 (!) Yearling badges.
 
@Tinkeringbell I hope you understand that it wasn't my intention. I do respect you, appreciate your engagement with my concern. I'd rather you didn't think I was trolling you.
 
Zoe
@StopHarmingMonica If you infinity glove the planet, there's not gonna be a fire either
 
@Aza Whoa.
 
user206222
I've asked a lot of well received one-off questions on various sites over the years so I'm not terribly surprised I earned a few. But 21? Jeez.
 
7:51 PM
@Aza It helps that the badge doesn't actually look at rep earned in the past year. It's a "total reputation divided by the number of years" kind of a thing
 
Explained here by Jon:
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A: Why am I getting so many "yearling" badges today?

Jon EricsonThe description of the Yearling badge is: Active member for a year, earning at least 200 reputation. This badge can be awarded multiple times. That means you only get the badge for years in which you earned 200 reputation on the site. So if you'd asked one or more questions and received upv...

Warning: contains SQL statements!
 
Cool. I gained 20k Rep today bc of the recalc...
 
I gained barely anything, except on MSE a bit
 
I lost more rep downvoting stuff than i gained from it
 
@rene "Warning"? I would go with "Bonus". ;-)
 
8:01 PM
Not all SQL is fit for those new to the subject ...
We don't want to alienate them upfront ...
 
rip
 
Is anyone else able to use chat's inbox or achievements dropdowns...? Neither of them are working for me
 
sites are all down
and chat is likely affected by that
 
Ah. That'd explain things.
 
> An exception occurred while processing your request. Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception.
 
8:08 PM
Weird double-sending issue with chat as well ATM, for me at least.
 
Socket is down, that's why
we are on the fallback system
 
In the browser where I'm logged in nothing works. In another where I'm logged out, the only issue is trying to look at user profiles.
 
user206222
@AdamLear That... makes a lot of sense, yeah.
 
user206222
Granted I tried to open that link and just got a runtime error so I guess I can't read it ;)
 
user206222
But I believe it!
 
user206222
At best, SQL is simmering.
 
that's an odd static image to exist
 
did someone forget to feed the hamsters again?
 
heh, it went to offline mode, and now it's back in broken mode
 
8:28 PM
it's been broken for years. Ba-ZING!
@Shog9 "It was posted by staff, who regularly monitor MSO anyway." I just meant that there was the potential for more/varied user (not just staff) feedback on MSE, rather than just MSO. Still, it's well outside of the migration window (didn't know that, sorry) and it's your discretion anyway. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I think I still subconsciously look at MSO as the network meta, rather than MSE... and I'm sure that leaves me with a horribly distorted perspective when it comes to feedback received through those channels. So, I'm trying to pay more attention to MSE.
 
8:53 PM
Bot error logs...
 
 
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11:07 PM
I find the question reputation change concerning. I have a pretty dumb (didn't take much effort to ask) question which got popular and now I'm apparently in the top 15% overall of stackoverflow. I haven't even been active on SO recently.
What's the best way to give feedback to SE about it?
 
Rob
@PeeyushKushwaha There's only the blog, officially. However, you can add some feedback here
 
i mean... 15% of... how many millions?
 
@PeeyushKushwaha the feedback channel is, alas, a little broken right now. But I encourage you to voice your opinion in any case
 
almost 11
what you're seeing is 85% of users don't have that much rep, because... the majority of users either haven't made a post yet, or have only made 1. That percentage drops significantly early on in the rep game
 
@PeeyushKushwaha not much you can do. You just sometimes hit the jackpot
 
11:40 PM
@Rob thanks, that meta post is what I was looking for.
 
11:51 PM
@PeeyushKushwaha I don't think that's a dumb question at all. You gained 1,005 reputation due to the recalc, which is large relative to your reputation, but not much in absolute terms.
 
All it gave me was a double yearling badge on code review
 
(I gained 2,471 on SO apparently.)
Something to note about your question, @PeeyushKushwaha, it produced several excellent answers. Who knows if they would have been posted if not for the question?
 
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