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12:08 AM
!!/alive
@Makyen Can you please reinstate Smokey here?
 
12:28 AM
Sites are in read-only mode right now
 
Yep just noticed that.
Right after someone wrote a comment on an answer I made.
Before I could even reply. Guh.
bbiab
 
Rob
1:25 AM
 
 
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3:30 AM
Feb 5 at 1:29, by ArtOfCode
If your password is "B79@SO3&sw2l;!" instead... yeah, ain't nobody guessing that. Not even a twin.
I'm pretty sure my rig could figure that out. :P
14 characters, highly structured. Probably in the default Hashcat ruleset anyway.
 
3:55 AM
Eh... While the answer itself might be OK given that this person is disclosing their relationship to the product, it's kind of spammy for them to post duplicate answers...
 
 
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7:12 AM
Why does it matter if the users are underage?
I mean technically that's against ToS but it only matters legally if SE knows.
(Ageism irritates me. Actually, so does the term "ageism", but not quite as much.)
 
@forest Identification would show age, and if it shows them being under 13 (or was issued by an EU country and shows them as being under 16) would result in the hard-deletion of their accounts
 
Oh I must have misread your comment (guess it's deleted now).
 
8:00 AM
@forest 20
Wow, some discussion has been going on here
 
Yup
@JNat cross site spammer for your lovely care... Thanks! :)
 
@forest I'm actually kinda confident if a user isn't 13 yet they should indulge in more fun things in life than editing hamework queschens.
I'm hyped by Endgame. They say it's a really fitting, if messy, ending.
The Dark Knight Rises style, maybe. But that was a happy ending.
Everyone praises it except that weirdo that didn't like it because it didn't end like Infinity War.
Thank you for your time in replying Rene. It is much appreciated and you have put things into context for me! — Andy 10 hours ago
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Endgame?
 
Ugh, no, you're supposed to keep arguing and ignoring the points of the answer!
@Tinkeringbell Avengers 4
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Oh... They're already on 4? Someone is making money I guess...
 
8:07 AM
Not sure if this was positive or negative?
The article linked by Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog was actually really helpful. But helpful for the reply which was made to the OP. I now support downvoting. Please go ahead and downvote this thread into oblivion. — Andy 11 hours ago
 
@Tinkeringbell Oof we ain't seen nothing yet
It probably is going to make 300 million bucks in a week.
 
Well, it won't be my money :P
 
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
But it's a really good franchise!
TBH it's not gonna be my money either.
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard There's a really good marketing team deserving more money? :P
 
I have no way of paying any foreign entity in any way.
 
8:10 AM
@Tinkeringbell no worry that's the last
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Tad bit frustrated, but the comment under rene's response came in later.
 
Until of course it won't be the last :D
 
@ShadowWizard If it makes money, you can be sure it won't be the last.
 
Not sure there will be a fifth
They will kill off the characters in this one I think
 
There'll be spinoffs and prequels and whatever until it makes no more money. Then someone else will buy the franchise and start remaking things, and we're back to square one ;)
 
8:11 AM
Of course there's other parts of the story to be made into the movie, or other actors and other franchises. The universe in the movie is so complicated that a chimpanzee can come up with a movie plot right now
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard they can revive and kill anyone at any point, that's the beauty of time travel.
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard So, I snapped my finger. And it hurt.
 
@NoDistractionWizard You need to be 3 meters tall to do it.
@ShadowWizard Except they probably won't
 
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt". Sarcasm may employ ambivalence, although sarcasm is not necessarily ironic. Most noticeable in spoken word, sarcasm is mainly distinguished by the inflection with which it is spoken and is largely context-dependent. Sarcasm does not translate into text-only mediums, such as online chat. == Origin of the term == The word comes from the Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmós) which is taken from σαρκάζειν (sarkázein) meaning "to tear flesh, bite the lip in rage, sneer".It is first recorded in English in 1579, in an annotation...
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard there are ways
 
And usually not time travel. Comics are famous for killing off a train of superheroes and then say in the end "Oh don't worry, it's OK, it was another dimension"
 
8:13 AM
@ShadowWizard Thank you very much, I wasn't aware of that.
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog yw
 
Whatever the heck that means. A mathematician would laugh their arse off.
Like this dark iteration of DCEU where superman goes nuts and kills a bunch of heroes, but hey, it's OK, it's another dimension!
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard another dimension? Guess part of the multiverse theory.
The multiverse, also known as an omniverse or meta-universe, is a hypothetical group of multiple universes. Together, these universes comprise everything that exists: the entirety of space, time, matter, energy, and the physical laws and constants that describe them. The different universes within the multiverse are called "parallel universes", "other universes", or "alternate universes". == History of the concept == In Dublin in 1952, Erwin Schrödinger gave a lecture in which he jocularly warned his audience that what he was about to say might "seem lunatic". He said that when his equations seemed...
 
My experiment with film photography last year was very enjoyable. Too bad it was cut short due to an electric scooter accident.
 
Uh well, probably not part of any theory. It's not astrophysicists that write the comics
 
8:16 AM
And the (best/worst) part is when all the Supermans meet...
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog ouch
 
at the bar.
 
Dang I sound like a comic nerd
 
@NoDistractionWizard like season 8 of GoT?
It's like school meeting, for 2 chapters already.
At least they had a good song by Florence. Added to my phone playlist. ;)
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Like asking homework questions? :P
 
8:17 AM
Well, it's my 21st birthday now, and I liked the experience so much, I've ordered myself a new film camera and 600+ exposures' worth of film rolls
 
The more I find out about GoT the more convoluted it seems.
 
@ShadowWizard blame Bran ;)
 
But it's probably the beauty of Worldbuilding. It's what makes MCU and Tolkienverse and Parry Hotter enjoyable
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard no worry in the first two chapters of season 8, only one nude scene in each, showing female buttocks for few seconds. Like they said "Hey, we must have something for the fans, otherwise they'll get mad!"
 
What, only one? Blasphemy!
 
8:19 AM
@NoDistractionWizard why Bran of all people?
 
Because I only know Bran, from HNQ.
 
@NoDistractionWizard one scene.... three buttocks first chapter, one in the second
@NoDistractionWizard oh... this reminds me, I want to ask question about Bran too
 
Hot Bran Questions
 
"Bran" and "Hot" is like "Cersei" and "Nice". ;)
 
(the pause is up to the reader)
 
8:22 AM
?
 
Yeah that one. I first thought it was a misspelling of Brian, then a misspelling of Brain. Now I know it's a weight loss strategy.
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Q: What shoul I do about a user who keeps suggesting questionable edits?

Wai Ha LeeI've noticed a user (ID 5022812) who's been a user for three years, but has, in the last three days, started suggesting lots of edits (56 at the moment) with a similar pattern: Adding pointless whitespace into the post, e.g. #1, #2, #3, #4, #5. In fact I think all but two of the 55 edits insert...

> Adding pointless whitespace into the post, e.g. #1, #2, #3, #4, #5. In fact I think all but two of the 55 edits insert spaces
Did he just check all the 55 edits?
These SOCVR people O.O
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard you mean Brienne
No Brian in GoT
 
No brain either in GoT
 
Khkhkh, 33 spaces. That's poetic
 
Pod is a great singer.
buh what I wanted to ask is asked already, in a way.
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Q: Three eyed raven and Bran

FirstSlackI want to know the answer to the below questions, based on your understanding of Game of Thrones. If Bran is the Three-eyed-raven/Old man on the tree that was inside the cave in seasons 4 and 5. How did the old man get there, was that old man like an illusion, I don't think it's an illusion b...

Wanted to ask "Who was the previous three eyed raven?"
 
 
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9:43 AM
@Tinkeringbell it's scheduled ahead years in advance, e.g. this one.
And it's worth many billions of dollars already, nobody can buy it. :/
(The company, Marvel)
Oh wait.. it was already bought... by Walt Disney. lol
 
 
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10:45 AM
18 messages moved to Chimney
 
11:09 AM
@MEEthesetupwizard That post was not automatically flagged by metasmoke.
 
@SmokeDetector autoflagged
 
@ShadowWizard That's not a report.
 
Metasmoke is down?
Loading forever for me. :(
 
for me too
 
Too much spam? Or just temp glitch?
 
11:16 AM
!!/ms-status
 
@MEEthesetupwizard metasmoke is up. Current failure count: 0
 
@Sha at least they seem to be aware of the issues over at Charcoal HQ
 
@MEEthesetupwizard probably up but stuck which is the worst
 
Fun fact: Whenever I open the dev.stackoverflow.com website and interact with it (e.g. choose a language) my browser breaks and needs to be restarted in order to load any website.
 
11:34 AM
@MEEthesetupwizard no repro with Chrome
 
Oh, Chrome blocks these links.
The problem seems to be that the javascript is expecting an url from the api call but is given a html document. This type of link seems to crash Firefox :(
 
Edge seems to handle it fine
 
@MEEthesetupwizard so with all due respect... Firefox is just bad.
(and personally... no respect for FF, it never worked fine for me.)
 
Argh, I have reviewers privileges on Metasmoke, but it is down...
 
@JNat another cross site spammer. Busy day... ;)
 
11:48 AM
Hey, MS is loading. Throwing an error, but loading!
 
@angussidney with MS down, autoflagglng is also down due to it?
(i.e. is autoflagging done via metasmoke?)
 
@ShadowWizard autoflagging was disabled recently due to some bugs (I know because @Sonic pinged Nick Craver about it). MS is up again, though
 
@MEEthesetupwizard bugs were fixed
 
Apr 13 at 20:01, by Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Was fixed this morning
nobody updated that GH issue.
oh wait
> We're blocked again. The first flag that was blocked was at 02:01:57UTC.
So it was fixed then came back again. heh
 
 
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Rob
1:23 PM
It's just like a yo-yo.
 
1:36 PM
@MEE what did you write that Robert nuked?
 
@ShadowWizard a link to should i blame caching. I then edited my comment to mark the link as "tl;dr" version and added a "long version" stating that it might take some time to be recalculated. I then received Roberts response and removed the first part (tl;dr). Then my comment was deleted.
 
Should I blame cashing?
 
@MEEthesetupwizard oh. Well... new users have no idea about caching and all that stuff.
 
Yep. That was why I added a long version soon after posting.
 
1:41 PM
But the caching also has no idea about new users and none of that stuff...
 
That said, "caching, it's always caching" is long time meme and part of meta culture, so....
Maybe invite Robert here to discuss this?
 
@ShadowWizard if you want?
 
@MEEthesetupwizard nah, left a comment
He's not active enough on Meta to make it have a big impact yet. :)
 
@ShadowWizard Should be one though... Just use the characters you're provided and make longer comments ;) If you haven't hit the limit yet, add another pleasantry! :P
 
2:14 PM
Sad story... Posted on CS Educators, then mistakenly migrated to Computational Science, rejected, then migrated to Computer Science and rejected again.
It's like table tennis with one migrating mod on one side and multiple rejecting mods on the other.
 
Technically one of the rejections was me and it was done by request.
 
IMO the question is of sufficiently low quality that it should not be migrated anywhere.
(I hope Math.SE isn't the next site to get it)
 
Possibly. I'm not a fan of migrations in general but it's not a universally shared feeling.
Maybe if something like the Question Wizard can reduce the need for it, we can get rid of it. In most cases, the user re-asking the question, particularly if there are no answers worth saving, is much better for everyone involved.
 
Why I'm thinking of Vote Dukakis Wizard...
 
@NoDistractionWizard in Germany there's the "Wahl-o-mat". That's no election machine though but a page summarizing the parties' opinions and how they match with yours.
 
2:39 PM
154 messages moved to Trashcan
 
3:21 PM
> This site has been fully approved, and it is on its final approach to becoming a full Q&A site. -- Our site name changed. Is it final?
"fully approved" on "57% commitment phase". Wondering the real meaning...
 
3:38 PM
Hey, guys. Wondering is someone can answer a quick question for me regarding network suspensions.
Creating a new account when suspended network wide is supposed to prevent creating new accounts elsewhere on the network, right?
 
@fbueckert If you want quick answers, perhaps it's best to immediately ask your question :P
 
@Tinkeringbell I gotta have a preamble!
What happens when an account gets a network-wide suspension, and is manually unsuspended on a single site?
Does that account have the ability to create new accounts elsewhere?
 
@fbueckert They are suspended everywhere except on that site. Are you asking if people with a networkwide suspension can join new network sites? Or if they can make a whole new account?
 
@Tinkeringbell Join new network sites.
 
@fbueckert No clue. I've never been suspended networkwide :P
 
3:40 PM
@Tinkeringbell Neither. And documentation I can find doesn't say anything about it.
Creating a whole new account is obviously going to get hammered.
But the use case here is...weird.
 
@fbueckert Best guess is such users are still showing up as 'suspended network wide' on the sites they're not unsuspended on, so joining a new one suspends you there as well.
But that's just a guess!
 
@Tinkeringbell That's what I would expect, but not what seems to have happened.
 
I don't think there's any restriction of joining other sites while getting network suspended, like... favoriting a question while suspended?
The suspension only prevents the acquired privileges (including posting Q&A)?
 
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Q: Prevent accounts that are suspended network-wide from creating more site profiles

Adam LearOnce in a while someone misbehaves on multiple sites at the same time, usually by posting spam or offensive content. We have the ability to apply a network-wide suspension in those cases and it is prominently annotated on every site profile belonging to the same account: This account is tempo...

That's all I could find.
No idea if it's still relevant or not.
I just want to make sure my Google-fu hasn't deserted me before I post something.
Oh, wait. The account is years old on the second site. So...does that mean it had to be manually unsuspended there, too?
 
3:56 PM
At worse, we can ask someone who is currently network-suspended to do the experiment and letting us know...
 
@NoDistractionWizard Only if they're unsuspended on one account site.
 
I know one... on SO...
 
@NoDistractionWizard Likely the exact account I'm talking about.
Hence why I'm asking.
 
4:17 PM
@fbueckert Probably.
 
4:36 PM
@Tinkeringbell That's what @animuson said, so it looks like this isn't really an issue.
 
4:49 PM
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5:23 PM
o/
 
\o
 
I wonder how close the Ask Wizard is to providing the first round of data
 
@TravisJ Ask the Wizard ...
 
6:03 PM
Where is the Wonderful Wizard?
Just sayin'... if we are having wizards, we need a wonderful one
 
@TravisJ → 1 Wizard moved to Oz
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Heh :D
 
6:38 PM
yesterday, by Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Might as well topple the wizardry tower while you're at it.
 
6:49 PM
 
Sorry for the trouble.
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog animuson deleted the whole conversation from yesterday/last night. just don't start things again, no matter how funny they may seem
 
Right, okay.
stroopwafels
 
Yeah, stroopwafels is better.
 
7:04 PM
I thought those are too sugary
 
Not for me :)
 
As a Dutch you have a reduced sense of sweet? :)
 
I had these as a gift from my customer ...
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Not really no, but stroopwafels aren't all that sweet, they're also a bit salty.
 
Never tasted a hint of salt in mine...I guess the local manufacturer just doesn't add it, 'cause my sense of saltiness works just fine
 
7:19 PM
Don't forget chocolate sprinkles and Hopjes :D
 
When you can only choose from a few canned options
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog anti-butterfly
 
@Feeds UZ would be the Community Team. Or DAG?
 
Now I get why rene is so salty
 
Hmm...seems like they're selling a new flavor...@Tinkeringbell what would you think of masala stroopwafels?
I mean, as an Indian, I sure would appreciate them
 
7:28 PM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Not my thing, I don't like spicy stuff.
 
@Margarine Look who's talking with a name like that... unless you're specifically unsalted margarine. ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell As I'm probably located in the geometric mean of India and Netherlands I do like spice but only with certain food
 
I'm located on the dimetric opposite and I also do like spice
 
@Catija There's nothing wrong about the pot calling the kettle black except when there's a progressive democrat around.
 
So definitely the salted variety :D
 
7:33 PM
Or sassy.
 
@Cat I actually wanna check out The Screening Room for the Endgame hype but I'm too wary of spoilers
Sounds like the plot doesn't matter as much as the emotional punch the movie delivers though
 
Hard to spoil canon
The story was written a long time ago
 
@TravisJ But the salt is just right. Taken from Urmia lake
@TravisJ The little details matter
 
I do like a good sea salt
 
@canon you're believed to be hard to spoil, FYI.
There should be a categorization of spoilers. I'm not personally a fan of the hypersensitive ner . . . people who go OMG Y U SPOIL when I say "in the end, the credits rolled"
 
7:38 PM
Disney has changed canon in the past though #starwars
 
Most of the plot can usually be 'spoiled' without any loss as well. The loss would be perceived
Sometimes the movie plays on two contradicting concepts, which would result in two different climaxes/endings/character developments/etc., and that's when things shouldn't be spoiled
I'm having a little trouble putting it into words, but take, say, Whiplash as an example
The second half of the movie keeps you wondering "so is Fletcher a hard but well-intentioned teacher or just an arsehole?" and it's IMO a fundamental part of how suspense is sustained till the very end
 
8:02 PM
@Margarine it's true. Natural preservatives.
 
 
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9:08 PM
@ShadowWizard ...it's a bit complicated. We've been having a few issues recently where a bug on SE's side has been permabanning our IP from the SE API, which breaks autoflagging among other things. Every time that happens, we have to get Nick Craver to manually clear the ban. More info on that: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/50019727#50019727
We've also had issues recently with our Redis server, which we use to cache certain things, particularly on the front end of metasmoke. So when it breaks, it makes MS virtually inaccessible to users. However, if the main MS Rails server is still running, background tasks will still run fine since they don't rely on Redis. So sometimes, MS will be down, but autoflagging will still work
Or alternatively the MS Rails server dies, then nothing works
 

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