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user302202

1:27 AM

> Tired of seeing our users down-voted and treated badly on Stackoverflow and others we just introduced our own beginner friendly Q&A board: repl.it/talk/ask If you want to help newbies and create an inclusive and welcoming developer culture then please contribute pic.twitter.com/mkL2jNzdO3 -- Amjad Masad 🎱 at 2:41 PM - 22 Apr 2019

user302202

Looks reasonable. Post your broken code on repl.it then post a question about it. For example, "Can anyone help me fix my code?" A good choice for the title would be Help me

Journeyman Geek

1:45 AM

@VoteDukakis throwing shade on SO aside... Hey, if it works and they're happy with how it goes, more power to them.

No Distraction Wizard

> Don't do this: Don't post homework questions, Don't use words like 'HELP' or 'PLEASE' in the title, ...

Anyway, honest opinion, some of the features look good for debugging code, no hard feeling...

And thus, SO and Repl.it can coexist peacefully...

Journeyman Geek

2:24 AM

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No Distraction Wizard

2:36 AM

Kind of interesting seeing all GoT HNQ on both Movies.SE and SciFi.SE~

No Distraction Wizard

5:02 AM

Next possible site rescoping: Bitcoin. Why so hostile towards all cryptocurrencies except bitcoin? -> Proposal: Narrow topic of Bitcoin.Stackexchange to questions applicable to Bitcoin

Mithrandir

6:21 AM

no cleanup options on mobile

rene

6:54 AM

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Tinkeringbell

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rene

I was trying to figure out why the userscript didn't include those 12 ...

Tinkeringbell

I can move them back for you to science, or go science in the Chimney ;)

rene

I work it out ;)

This will be a tough day. Need to consume all remaining chocolate eggs before they expire.

No Distraction Wizard

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Tinkeringbell

7:06 AM

Hahaha are those eggs from last year? :P

rene

well, you don't want to give them that chance, do you?

Tinkeringbell

Why not? chocolate doesn't expire that soon/easily ;)

rene

I won't experiment with it. It is just too tempting

Tinkeringbell

I'm glad there are no easter eggs to be found here. I'd eat too many, get a rash, spent weeks being unhappy about my lack of better judgment...

Magisch

I had a readily uneventful easter

Magisch

7:34 AM

In today's episode of how on earth did this get upvoted: workplace.stackexchange.com/a/134239

No Distraction Wizard

@Magisch I read "easter" as "disaster", blamed my left-screen-biased monitor...

Magisch

Makes me feel a little dirty for even being a member of the community that somehow awarded that answer 80 upvotes

No Distraction Wizard

@Magisch Of course, don't forget its meta post

Magisch

Are there really that many people who suggest that just because the credibility dynamic might play out that way it's ok to add insult to injury and ruin a coworkers life if they dare to speak up about some seriously inappropriate behavior at work?

forget IPS, if people raised a stink over this I could completly see why

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

8:12 AM

@rene Not every site requires 10+ rep to embed images

No Distraction Wizard

@VoteDukakis ... just realized what they did there... consecutive elections since 15th and 22th!!

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Looks more like someone playing the system with a strange question. It now has 1 extra downvote ;)

rene

@SonictheWizardWerehog that is clearly beneficial for spammers.

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@rene Even on the sites that require it, it's still possible for all users to upload images to SE Imgur

Shadow Wizard

hehe nodding towards @NoD

:P

@NoD.js

@rene on such cases I post one message with "batch of three"... not that I care about pings as you know well, but maybe glo or bar do... ;)

Anyway... all gone now. :D

@Tinkeringbell after about a year it becomes not very tasty. :/ (before the actual expire date arrives)

rene

8:27 AM

When I started I didn't realize I would post three. But good point. Will remember

Shadow Wizard

@VoteDukakis ohh

@rene cheers! :D

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

8:48 AM

@ShadowWizard smirk

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Q: Did the North Korean government ever say that Kim Jong-il never defecated?

Recently, someone claimed while talking to me that North Korea said that Kim Jong-il never needed to poop. Is there any evidence that this claim is true, such as an Internet Archive page? I have found an unsourced Guardian article, and while I generally trust them, this seems very outlandish. CB...

When you have an entire economy to poop on, don't say enough to a toilet.

rene

9:15 AM

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Journeyman Geek

9:35 AM

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@Magisch It HNQed

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek In today's episode of "How was this not deleted as r/a before it HNQ'd"

No Distraction Wizard

Was it really R/A? Why it's not deleted?

Magisch

'pparently not. I flagged it and replied to the meta discussion arguing for its deletion

next step is contact us

No Distraction Wizard

Ah... now I just realized the clever wording that fooled me...

I read it as "Anybody at work making any allegations of such a disgusting, unprofessional act should and will report to HR [...]". Yeah, I'm a fool.

I'm getting scared of myself now...

Magisch

This is someone taking it to twitter away from a worse version of the prior HNQ hububb

since that question and answer was also hnq

No Distraction Wizard

9:50 AM

Yeah, to be fair, I was more surprised about the title when I first saw it on HNQ though.

Journeyman Geek

10:07 AM

@Magisch Actually - Its a great opportunity to rexamine our processes. If I'd seen that in HNQ, what would/should I have done? ;p

And I'm wondering, should we have had a custom flag done to let mods know?

No Distraction Wizard

@JourneymanGeek I'd laugh at the comment thread :(

Journeyman Geek

@NoDistractionWizard all fun and games till someone loses an eye...

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

10:30 AM

Bad words were only there in HNQ for 11 hours; the title was edited, then the whole question was removed some hours later

@JourneymanGeek Do you think it's a good idea to allow a site's mods to also remove an HNQ from another site on their own site's HNQ?

Journeyman Geek

No

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Why not?

Journeyman Geek

Cause I'm not a mod on that site

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek I'd argue its too late at that point. It should have never been upvoted, it should have been r/a destroyed after the first couple of people saw it

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheWizardWerehog not all mods can be trusted to use their abilities appropriately, and its something that can potentially cause damage

imagine what happens if a mod decides he hates WP and starts dehnqing any workplace posts

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

10:35 AM

To be clear, it would only affect the site you moderate (to clarify, for example, prevent a specific question from Worldbuilding from showing up in the HNQ sidebar on SU, a site you moderate)

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A: Let's go back to HNQ!

Thanks to all of you for weighing in here. We hear you and we're going to make this change pretty soon - apologies for the delay and the imprecise plans but let me tell you about it. There's one element that didn't get shipped with the HNQ update that I think will really help all sites - but par...

@Magisch ^^this is applicable here

Magisch

The question was on HNQ for 18 hours before monica killed it from there. That's not the problem. The problem is that the answer is providing dangerous, illegal and arguably sexist and incredibly unethical advice, and has been upvoted to comparably high heavens

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

True; I was solely referring to the title in my previous message. But I think having a minimum age threshold for questions would have helped solve this problem.

That bad answer was only posted a couple hours later; my personal preference for a threshold is 24 hours, but even the six-hour threshold proposed by Catija there would have likely worked.

Journeyman Geek

11:00 AM

OH

@SonictheWizardWerehog that means keeping track of which questions are shunned on which site

overcomplicated

@Magisch if someone flagged it as such, it could have gone quicker

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek The mods were at least very aware of its existance

Journeyman Geek

11:14 AM

@Magisch true but the right decision sometimes needs more information

Magisch

I don't know how users flagging it as R/A would have made a difference in that case.

Journeyman Geek

Ah no. More that the original post itself could be a problem and that it's in hnq

Magisch

Passing blame around is useless anyways

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

12:05 PM

@JourneymanGeek With the current system, I guess I FINALLY have a reason to fast-track things directly to the mods...

(i.e. HNQ actions)

Journeyman Geek

12:22 PM

@SonictheWizardWerehog hopefully rarely

No Distraction Wizard

1:18 PM

tried very hard to make controversial HNQ on ~~MSE~~ SU...

rene

something with Linux vs Windows must work, no?

Journeyman Geek

POB

No Distraction Wizard

something with TempleOS...

rene

:D

Journeyman Geek

1:55 PM

@NoDistractionWizard hardly controversial

No Distraction Wizard

ReactiveTempleOS...

Journeyman Geek

Actually I wouldn't mind good reactos questions

No Distraction Wizard

2:14 PM

I... uh... dunno how to respond to the comments on this Area 51 meta post 😔...

of course, I can ignore and move on~

rene

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Kevin B

huh. never realized "removed" comments were capable of being moved.

rene

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with magic everything can be moved

No Distraction Wizard

You are on: non-smoking area.

Olivia

Well, this has always been a non-smoking area. Unfortunately, some people don't care, so we got a @SmokeDetector installed.

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

2:28 PM

Might as well topple the wizardry tower while you're at it.

!!/watch guidemenutrition\.com

SmokeDetector

@SonictheWizardWerehog That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer, Pattern-matching website in body, Pattern-matching website in answer, and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

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