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user302202
01:27
> Tired of seeing our users down-voted and treated badly on Stackoverflow and others we just introduced our own beginner friendly Q&A board: repl.it/talk/ask If you want to help newbies and create an inclusive and welcoming developer culture then please contribute pic.twitter.com/mkL2jNzdO3 -- Amjad Masad 🎱 at 2:41 PM - 22 Apr 2019
user302202
Looks reasonable. Post your broken code on repl.it then post a question about it. For example, "Can anyone help me fix my code?" A good choice for the title would be Help me
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
01:45
@VoteDukakis throwing shade on SO aside... Hey, if it works and they're happy with how it goes, more power to them.
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
> Don't do this: Don't post homework questions, Don't use words like 'HELP' or 'PLEASE' in the title, ...
Anyway, honest opinion, some of the features look good for debugging code, no hard feeling...
And thus, SO and Repl.it can coexist peacefully...
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
02:24
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No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
02:36
Kind of interesting seeing all GoT HNQ on both Movies.SE and SciFi.SE~
 
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No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
05:02
Next possible site rescoping: Bitcoin. Why so hostile towards all cryptocurrencies except bitcoin? -> Proposal: Narrow topic of Bitcoin.Stackexchange to questions applicable to Bitcoin
 
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Mithrandir
Mithrandir
06:21
no cleanup options on mobile
rene
rene
06:54
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Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
→ 12 messages moved to Chimney
rene
rene
I was trying to figure out why the userscript didn't include those 12 ...
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I can move them back for you to science, or go science in the Chimney ;)
rene
rene
I work it out ;)
This will be a tough day. Need to consume all remaining chocolate eggs before they expire.
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
→ 2 chimneys moved to Chimney
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
07:06
Hahaha are those eggs from last year? :P
rene
rene
well, you don't want to give them that chance, do you?
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Why not? chocolate doesn't expire that soon/easily ;)
rene
rene
I won't experiment with it. It is just too tempting
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I'm glad there are no easter eggs to be found here. I'd eat too many, get a rash, spent weeks being unhappy about my lack of better judgment...
Magisch
Magisch
I had a readily uneventful easter
Magisch
Magisch
07:34
In today's episode of how on earth did this get upvoted: workplace.stackexchange.com/a/134239
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
@Magisch I read "easter" as "disaster", blamed my left-screen-biased monitor...
Magisch
Magisch
Makes me feel a little dirty for even being a member of the community that somehow awarded that answer 80 upvotes
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
@Magisch Of course, don't forget its meta post
Magisch
Magisch
Are there really that many people who suggest that just because the credibility dynamic might play out that way it's ok to add insult to injury and ruin a coworkers life if they dare to speak up about some seriously inappropriate behavior at work?
forget IPS, if people raised a stink over this I could completly see why
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
08:12
@rene Not every site requires 10+ rep to embed images
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
@VoteDukakis ... just realized what they did there... consecutive elections since 15th and 22th!!
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Magisch Looks more like someone playing the system with a strange question. It now has 1 extra downvote ;)
rene
rene
@SonictheWizardWerehog that is clearly beneficial for spammers.
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
@rene Even on the sites that require it, it's still possible for all users to upload images to SE Imgur
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
hehe nodding towards @NoD
:P
@NoD.js
@rene on such cases I post one message with "batch of three"... not that I care about pings as you know well, but maybe glo or bar do... ;)
Anyway... all gone now. :D
@Tinkeringbell after about a year it becomes not very tasty. :/ (before the actual expire date arrives)
rene
rene
08:27
When I started I didn't realize I would post three. But good point. Will remember
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@VoteDukakis ohh
@rene cheers! :D
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
08:48
@ShadowWizard smirk
4
Q: Did the North Korean government ever say that Kim Jong-il never defecated?

StormblessedRecently, someone claimed while talking to me that North Korea said that Kim Jong-il never needed to poop. Is there any evidence that this claim is true, such as an Internet Archive page? I have found an unsourced Guardian article, and while I generally trust them, this seems very outlandish. CB...

north-korea propaganda
When you have an entire economy to poop on, don't say enough to a toilet.
rene
rene
09:15
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
09:35
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@Magisch It HNQed
Magisch
Magisch
@JourneymanGeek In today's episode of "How was this not deleted as r/a before it HNQ'd"
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
Was it really R/A? Why it's not deleted?
Magisch
Magisch
'pparently not. I flagged it and replied to the meta discussion arguing for its deletion
next step is contact us
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
Ah... now I just realized the clever wording that fooled me...
I read it as "Anybody at work making any allegations of such a disgusting, unprofessional act should and will report to HR [...]". Yeah, I'm a fool.
I'm getting scared of myself now...
Magisch
Magisch
This is someone taking it to twitter away from a worse version of the prior HNQ hububb
since that question and answer was also hnq
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
09:50
Yeah, to be fair, I was more surprised about the title when I first saw it on HNQ though.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
10:07
@Magisch Actually - Its a great opportunity to rexamine our processes. If I'd seen that in HNQ, what would/should I have done? ;p
And I'm wondering, should we have had a custom flag done to let mods know?
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
@JourneymanGeek I'd laugh at the comment thread :(
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@NoDistractionWizard all fun and games till someone loses an eye...
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
10:30
Bad words were only there in HNQ for 11 hours; the title was edited, then the whole question was removed some hours later
@JourneymanGeek Do you think it's a good idea to allow a site's mods to also remove an HNQ from another site on their own site's HNQ?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
No
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Why not?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Cause I'm not a mod on that site
Magisch
Magisch
@JourneymanGeek I'd argue its too late at that point. It should have never been upvoted, it should have been r/a destroyed after the first couple of people saw it
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@SonictheWizardWerehog not all mods can be trusted to use their abilities appropriately, and its something that can potentially cause damage
imagine what happens if a mod decides he hates WP and starts dehnqing any workplace posts
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
10:35
To be clear, it would only affect the site you moderate (to clarify, for example, prevent a specific question from Worldbuilding from showing up in the HNQ sidebar on SU, a site you moderate)
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A: Let's go back to HNQ!

CatijaThanks to all of you for weighing in here. We hear you and we're going to make this change pretty soon - apologies for the delay and the imprecise plans but let me tell you about it. There's one element that didn't get shipped with the HNQ update that I think will really help all sites - but par...

@Magisch ^^this is applicable here
Magisch
Magisch
The question was on HNQ for 18 hours before monica killed it from there. That's not the problem. The problem is that the answer is providing dangerous, illegal and arguably sexist and incredibly unethical advice, and has been upvoted to comparably high heavens
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
True; I was solely referring to the title in my previous message. But I think having a minimum age threshold for questions would have helped solve this problem.
That bad answer was only posted a couple hours later; my personal preference for a threshold is 24 hours, but even the six-hour threshold proposed by Catija there would have likely worked.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:00
OH
@SonictheWizardWerehog that means keeping track of which questions are shunned on which site
overcomplicated
@Magisch if someone flagged it as such, it could have gone quicker
Magisch
Magisch
@JourneymanGeek The mods were at least very aware of its existance
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:14
@Magisch true but the right decision sometimes needs more information
Magisch
Magisch
I don't know how users flagging it as R/A would have made a difference in that case.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Ah no. More that the original post itself could be a problem and that it's in hnq
Magisch
Magisch
Passing blame around is useless anyways
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
12:05
@JourneymanGeek With the current system, I guess I FINALLY have a reason to fast-track things directly to the mods...
(i.e. HNQ actions)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:22
@SonictheWizardWerehog hopefully rarely
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
13:18
tried very hard to make controversial HNQ on MSE SU...
rene
rene
something with Linux vs Windows must work, no?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
POB
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
something with TempleOS...
rene
rene
:D
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:55
@NoDistractionWizard hardly controversial
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
ReactiveTempleOS...
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Actually I wouldn't mind good reactos questions
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
14:14
I... uh... dunno how to respond to the comments on this Area 51 meta post 😔...
of course, I can ignore and move on~
rene
rene
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Kevin B
Kevin B
huh. never realized "removed" comments were capable of being moved.
rene
rene
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with magic everything can be moved
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
You are on: non-smoking area.
Olivia
Olivia
Well, this has always been a non-smoking area. Unfortunately, some people don't care, so we got a @SmokeDetector installed.
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Sonic the Wizard Werehog
14:28
Might as well topple the wizardry tower while you're at it.
!!/watch guidemenutrition\.com
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@SonictheWizardWerehog That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer, Pattern-matching website in body, Pattern-matching website in answer, and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
15:33
delv-pls 2k+ meta.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/64376
Kevin B
Kevin B
lol
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
16:12
0
Q: How to handle serial downvote from diamond mod

leymannxYesterday there came this question: Gulp in Bootstrap child theme. I flagged it for being off-topic and provided a helpful link in the comments. One of our diamond mods provided an answer to it. I downvoted this answer for being rather a comment than an answer and for answering an off-topic ques...

discussion moderators votes
(not) clickbait
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Wanna put myself in that guy's shoes. "Hey, wonder what I can contribute to the universe today . . . let's go tro . . . share my wisdom with a random guy asking about a comet's orbit."
@NoDistractionWizard I expected more pitchforks
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
They are still busy with eggs?
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Sounds like they started to understand each other's viewpoints in the end. Since when does that happen on the internet?
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
@MEEthesetupwizard what's that broken link?
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@NoDistractionWizard Or decapitating and brutally murdering chocolate rabbits.
Adam Lear
Adam Lear
16:16
@MEEthesetupwizard Nah, the joke was that I’m already a web developer
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@NoDistractionWizard It's a broken link
MEE the setup wizard
MEE the setup wizard
The tweet seems to have been deleted.
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
@MEEthesetupwizard What did it say before?
Adam Lear
Adam Lear
But I changed my mind on phrasing it the way I did
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Voluntarily removed by its author
MEE the setup wizard
MEE the setup wizard
16:17
@AdamLear well one can't know, with the recent development...
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
Sri Lanka bombings?
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
wot.
Adam Lear
Adam Lear
I’ve been here for over 7 years. You can assume my departure tweet would be a little less flippant :)
MEE the setup wizard
MEE the setup wizard
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I linked to a (now deleted) tweet by @Adam stating that he is "gonna get a new career". I then asked him whether he would be really leaving...
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
@AdamLear If you did leave, would you retain your mod privileges on SO?
Adam Lear
Adam Lear
16:19
The tweet had an image of an FB ad I got that said “Tired of your job? Become a web developer”
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
I hate it when I have to explain a joke
Almost as much as I hate preparing a sandwich
Adam Lear
Adam Lear
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Dunno, depends on the terms/circumstances. But probably.
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Skilvvz or a user with similar spelling retained his Skeptics diamond
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Sklivvz, yes
No Distraction Wizard
No Distraction Wizard
The joke is that's an FB ad, not SO ad...
 
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
17:48
I think the current norms is you get back whatever mid rights you had before you were employee - mainly for CMs and Devs
 
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canon
canon
18:58
nice revision history... stackoverflow.com/posts/208105/revisions
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Have there been any instances where a ragequitting user used a sock puppet to downvote their own posts, so that they'd be automatically deleted as negatively-scored posts, or later Roomba'd as old, 1-score posts with no answers and little activity, once their account is deleted?
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
That... sounds like a very contrived scenario.
Kevin B
Kevin B
ragequitting is an exception
we have exception handlers, right?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Mithrandir quite
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
19:13
Sounds like one of Joker's plans
He'd probably gain some popularity on IPS.
And Philosophy.
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Q: Can skipping breakfast increase risk of heart disease?

dylan-myersThis article from the clickbait off-shoot of The Independent newspaper, iNews (archive) states that: Skipping breakfast on a regular basis could be linked to an increased risk of dying from heart disease citing a study of the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey by University of...

medical-science cardiology scientific-papers
Eat your breakfasts, people.
Kevin B
Kevin B
wha
they closed down the diner we usually go to on the weekend and replaced it with a subway, wendys, and dunkn' donuts :(
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
19:28
Here in Austin we've always resisted against big chains
Kevin B
Kevin B
19:40
Now all we have for a general breakfast diner is ihop and a crappy buffet place
Shog9
Shog9
dunkin donuts sounds better than both of those
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Shog seems to be going on a spree of migrating questions from here to Literature
Shog9
Shog9
that's what happens when you carefully design a test script and then... Somehow end up on a production site.
Catija
Catija
:/
Shog9
Shog9
only noticed because it was running WAY TOO QUICKLY
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
19:44
Why was this question migrated to Literature? — kipbits 1 min ago
Kevin B
Kevin B
Lol
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog We desperately need @Mith's insight on those matters
TBF SE posts are among the best "internet" literature historians from the future would want to research about
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
@Shog9 Is this script related to mass-migrating questions (e.g. during the two major meta splits)?
Shog9
Shog9
no
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard
I hope they don't find certain other places. What would they think of us? O.O
Shog9
Shog9
19:47
setting up a bunch of migration-rejection scenarios locally to test against
rene
rene
all in preparation of the all SE sites get a single place: Stack Overflow. That solves the issue with many databases in one DAG as well ....
Olivia
Olivia
20:03
@Shog9 in case you didn't notice, you might wanna take a look at the revision history of that one
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard @Shog decides to spam my site just after I shut down my computer... :P
Olivia
Olivia
@Mithrandir Pff, it's clearly the krakens
Rob
Rob
Migration script vs. rejection script:
i.sstatic.net/xpBQM.gif .
Olivia
Olivia
xD
 
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forest
forest
22:28
Is it possible to vote twice on a post or comment if it was migrated?
Catija
Catija
Yes
forest
forest
Why?
Bad programming?
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
No, it's that the existing score gets transferred as is
forest
forest
That sounds like a bug.
Catija
Catija
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog That's not completely correct. There's some caveats.
forest
forest
22:31
I mean I'm not complaining. I was able to downvote a crappy answer twice.
Catija
Catija
@forest It's... not really fixable. The votes are tied to your site profile, not your network account... there's no real way to transfer those when it's super common for a user to not even have a profile on the other site.
@forest ... see. Now you're getting the picture. :P
forest
forest
@Catija But casting a vote requires making an account, right?
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
It was dismissed as by design by Jeff a while back.
forest
forest
So when an account is created, why not check if a linked account had already voted and if so, mark the question as having already been voted on by them?
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog "it's a feature, not a bug" :D
Catija
Catija
@forest Votes from migrated posts aren't counted in that way, though.
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
22:34
@Catija Such as?
forest
forest
Yeah but they could be.
Catija
Catija
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Post is negatively scored, the score is set to zero on migration.
forest
forest
I mean, this is a website for programmers. It's not like we're short of them.
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
(briefly lost my websockets connection)
 
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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
23:38
In any case, the planned maintenance shutdown is approaching - be prepared
forest
forest
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog What time?
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Was scheduled for 10 minutes prior to now, hasn't happened yet
forest
forest
Guess the dev's alarm clocks are down for maintenance too.
forest
forest
23:50
testing again
> Server Error in '/' Application.

Runtime Error

Description: An exception occurred while processing your request. Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception. The request has been terminated.
Such a graceful failover! It's almost as if the devs don't know what they're doing!
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
@StackStatus NOOOOOO! CHAT!!!! My only daily social interactions!!! Give it back!
Tweeted by iCatija on April 23, 2019 at 11:42 PM in reply to StackStatus
Catija
Catija
Poke
forest
forest
10 POKE 32985, 0
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog
!!/alive

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