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Travis J

00:15

It is the same day still =/

Besides, there are probably only a few people who could fill Jay's shoes, and I don't think they are external. Could be, but I don't think so.

user302202

01:00

Trying to choose the most memorable quote by Jaydles...

user302202

> Someday, it's possible that EvilCorp Executives may be standing around by my grave, laughing about my naive promises decades before they successfully wrested control of the company from Joel and Jeff's Great-Grandchildren. meta.stackexchange.com/a/267351

user302202

This stuck in memory partly because of the last words here: Joel does not have children afaik, and why would Jeff's children be in control of the company?

user302202

But also the vision of a group of evil execs standing around Jaydles' grave.

user302202

01:23

A very short reputation league for the year: stackexchange.com/leagues/682/year/augur

Mazura

I just got 'Announcer' badge, but I can't find the comment that got me it... only took 6 years ;p

And neither of my 2 answers on Aviation have links in them...

bump just to see my score

yikes

user302202

@Mazura The badge page shows the question that you got it for: aviation.stackexchange.com/help/badges/59/announcer?userid=3497

user302202

You must have shared a link to that question somewhere, possibly outside of SE.

Mazura

Oh it's site wide?

That'll take forever to find.

user302202

It's internet-wide.

user302202

01:34

Originally these badges excluded traffic from SE sites, although with HTTPS switch this got dropped.

Mazura

Yikes. Well this is as close as I get to social media, so it's prob here somewhere.

Prob on world building. 25 people didn't come back to upvote it or I'd know ;)

user302202

How would you know about upvotes, if it's not your post?

user302202

This one should also be nuked, same troll as in Smokey's report.

user302202

gone

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@MSOGA As far as you know, do the Announcer-series badges check XFF headers (so that multiple people using the same ISP that uses dynamic IPs and happen to be assigned the same IP get counted properly)? Also, is there any sort of IP blacklist (e.g. to prevent people from using VPNs to game the badge)?

Mazura

01:45

@MSOGA My top comments, network wide

but it could be a link in a answer though

user302202

I don't know how hard they work to prevent badge gaming: this post seems to be the only discussion of abuse, and it does not have technical details.

user302202

02:01

Is there a maximum possible size for an airplane? Once you have to start taking into account the curvature of the Earth, you should probably rethink your plans. — Mazura Dec 14 '16 at 2:57

user302202

It's a link to an answer, which also counts (the badge page does not specify whether the badge was for linking to the Q or an A)

user302202

Found with Google search Is there a maximum possible size for an airplane? stackexchange +mazura

Mazura

@MSOGA wow tx. +2 is pretty far from 25 ;)

"+ mazura" I'll have to remember that

user302202

Well, they clicked the link - that does not imply they liked what they found there, or found the comment especially useful.

Mazura

Even if they did, they'd have to come back to it.

user302202

02:12

Also, the majority may have been visitors without an account or without reputation to upvote.

Mazura

I used to do a lot of 'linking'. Apparently it all sucked except this one ;)

@MSOGA - Thanks for finding that. I'm out

Bookends

02:34

Morning?

Bookends

04:00

~~Probably~~ Certainly a big surprise for Anime.SE, at last(?)

7

Q: Gathering ideas for the site design — 2019 edition!

In late 2017 we were asked if a design for this site was being worked on or not, and at the time the design team was stretched pretty thin, to the point where I wasn't able to provide this community with a reasonable and realistic ETA for when they'd be able to work on it. But now I'm back with...

Journeyman Geek

@Bookends that 'bus stop' one is sweeeeeeeeeeet

Journeyman Geek

05:16

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

05:49

> answered 45 minutes ago

> put on hold as off-topic by Sonic the Wizard Werehog, Supa Mega Ducky Momo da Waffle, Makyen, Ward, Pierre.Vriens 44 mins ago

Journey you sneaky bastard, hehe

Also morning

Nothing like the smell of a fresh this community is "WAY TOO HARSH"!!! in the morning

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'm a sneaky sneaky ~~fox~~ dog

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

06:05

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ FYI I opted for "too broad"

Journeyman Geek

06:23

More so cause I posted an answer off my phone knowing it would be closed ;p

Journeyman Geek

06:53

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ also personally I think questions like that should get a calm, balanced response

@Tinkeringbell so... I spotted what I think was a red (and a blue) macaw on my way to work

probably escapees but its curious different varieties microflocked

Bookends

writes 'SO is too way harsh' meta post while laughing maniacally

Journeyman Geek

@Bookends eh. I wouldn't really notice ;p

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek might be, I'm currently on my way to work ;)

Journeyman Geek

(there's actually a breeding colony or 3 of cocatoos... soooo)

xdtTransform

I know Meta and So is a tought crowd: is this pun understandable in English: "From 4 sides to few millions aside: The evolution from a polygon to a Carlos Gon.".

Journeyman Geek

07:09

Who is Carlos Gon?

Actually it is completely unintellegible to someone who is vaguely a nativeish english speaker

xdtTransform

Renamed Carlos Ghosn. ceo of Renault nissan. in jail in japan

Bookends

The evolution from a polygon to... gone with the wind

Journeyman Geek

errrrrr

Nope

still makes no sense. Catches no ball. Rings no bells....

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SonictheWizardWerehog Nice try, but the system implies otherwise and the reason is pinned onto your forehead for eternity

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ My name doesn't show next to the "specific reason", though.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

07:16

Still pinned

@xdtTransform Few millions aside? What does that mean?

xdtTransform

From "put money aside" as he snatch few billion.

Bookends

It's before Circle-gon becoming a perfect Circle.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Uh, nope. That sentence fragment doesn't work for me

But I'm a nonnative speaker, so

Bookends

How many are English native speakers on this chat room!?

(I'm not)

xdtTransform

French. I count for 2!

Magisch

07:21

Me neither

xdtTransform

The joke was in "multiple side" => "money aside". I'm sad I failed my pun. English pun are so hard! I will tell the joke all day to any English speaker I found in the office till one laught. I will get a laught at least a nervous one. I will wait that a more famous Ceo with a name in -Gon get to jail.

Tinkeringbell

@Bookends Not me

Morning, and happy pi day!

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell and happy 3.14 to you

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Thanks! I think I'll make it work ;)

Shadow Wizard

08:34

plz-delete batch of two: python code, Gradient Textures @Bart @rene @TravisJ

Mithrandir

Whee pupil dilation

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard All gone :)

@Mithrandir Doctor's visit?

Mithrandir

Yep. Just the last in a long series

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ it is a mix of several requests and rant, surely off topic but agree the close reason of "does not appear to seek input and discussion from the community" is totally wrong.

It does seek input, but in a bad and wrong way.

Too broad can apply, as it asks for several things at once.

The other users (not Sonic) who closed are less familiar with SE/MSE so can't really blame them. But meh... it's closed as it should be.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard familiar dosen't necessarily mean right. Or on this case sharing the idea of the best way to deal with it

Shadow Wizard

08:39

@Mithrandir new glasses are arriving?

Journeyman Geek

and honestly? both approaches can be right

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell all two? Thanks! :D

@JourneymanGeek yeah, we all make mistakes, no doubt. :)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard is it though?

Each person acted on what they felt was the best read of the situation

I knew it would be closed and snuck in an answer which I could edit. I assumed the user was frustrated and probably was a little lost with how SE worked

One might also assume the user wanted to rant

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek you could post the answer after it's closed, no need to sneak and hurry. ;)

@JourneymanGeek that's my assumption, hence my downvote.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard true, but the true test of power is knowing when not to use it.

Mithrandir

08:45

...and then i.imgur.com/zFhxsp8.jpg after the camera got dropped in

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir nice!

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard no, got new glasses a few weeks ago. This is because the army wants info

Shadow Wizard

@JNat long time no cross site spammer! Have fun... ;)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard And a few extras :P

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir ohh.... those checks. Have fun... :P

Journeyman Geek

08:55

@ShadowWizard do they do the "turn the head and cough" ?

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell oh, yeah I report only old (>1H) questions with <-8 score which can stick for days as they're off the homepage.

@JourneymanGeek sure. And a check where you're required to stay only with underwear, think they then check the weight and height, probably also checking for any skin problems. For me it was over 20 years ago so don't remember for sure, if and when @Mith will go through it, he can give more details. :D

free NAA flags, hurry before it's deleted! ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard what site is that even from?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Cool. I just delete everything :P

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek not SE.... looks like some mockup/dev tools trick.

JNat

09:18

@ShadowWizard gone ;)

Shadow Wizard

@JNat thanks!

Magisch

since when are gif avatars allowed anyways

Journeyman Geek

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@Magisch they have never been banned

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch People keep saying it's a bug?

Journeyman Geek

they just are not supported

Mithrandir

09:30

Doctor: "Go to the emergency room. Now."

Tinkeringbell

o.o

I hope that isn't too bad, keep us updated?

Mithrandir

I've got a hole in my retina, they want to poke lasers at it

Magisch

@Mithrandir never a good thing to hear. I hope you'll end up OK

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch not allowed, but possible due to imgur bugs, which only get worse over time.

Journeyman Geek

09:33

My dad had that happen

bring sunglasses

Mithrandir

I mean, it shouldn't be too bad... my mother has six. Apparently extreme myopia causes it.

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Still, those holes can come with serious consequences. So get it checked out, and I hope they're indeed not too bad :)

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek well SE officially ban animation in ads, so I want to believe they'll ban it officially in avatars too, if it comes to that.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard though, ads have a erm...

whassname

A bad ad/annoying ad makes a worse impression of the network

also $$$$

Shadow Wizard

So annoying avatar will "just" cause people to downvote the user based on that? Not good as well.

Journeyman Geek

10:29

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hm

the last two shoulda been cleared too ._.

Tinkeringbell

→ 6 messages moved to Chimney

Bettah?

Shadow Wizard

sniffing

Yeah, no smoke.

Tinkeringbell

For now ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:48

If I was an RO I would have been stuck in a loop moving audit messages to trash only to create other audit messages

Journeyman Geek

MWAHAHAHAHA

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@JourneymanGeek Wh ass name? That's a nice way of putting it

Magisch

or edit the audit message into something different to break the cycle

Journeyman Geek

that's precisely why troublemakers get made ROs

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Magisch Then move it to trash, causing an exception

Magisch

10:49

becoming a RO .... mellows you

The "I need to be an example for others ... if I do it, they will too, and I won't have a leg to stand on to ask them not to ..." permeates every time you want to type something contentious or in anger

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Types something contentious in anger Y U SAY I NO TREBLEMAKER

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Ehhh...

In some cases ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Well, FWIW, being an RO of a few rooms made me more likely to type something contentious, not less

I pwn dis place naw

Magisch

Its less "I own this place" and more "If I fail to keep this clean I'll be held accountable before the users are"

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

GAAA

Journey's apostrophitis is contagious

Tempted to give in

Bookends

10:55

I mellow you!

@Magisch becoming a mod also mellowed me

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

TIL everyone in this chat is a mush

Magisch

Haven't had that yet. Maybe someday

Bookends

especially on a site where there are not enough active members to achieve 5 close/reopen votes and almost always need mods instead

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Hmm, SO?

Bookends

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Andruid

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:59

Smokey I'm tempted to upvote for the title

Purple links O.O

3

Q: Did India shoot down any Pakistani F-16 on 27th February 2019?

According to DG ISPR of the Military of Pakistan, Gen. Asif Gafoor, on 27th February 2019, Pakistan Air Force's jets engaged IAF's jets and "shot down two IAF jets". On the same day, India claimed that they shot down a Pakistani F-16. In the video it could be seen that, during the press briefing...

united-states india pakistan

Now these guys

Guess some people were too impatient for a drama

Can't say I'd take any sides though, Pakistan has been an arsehole to Iran whenever they got the chance

And India makes lame movies

Just FYI, I found this by googling "Snowman touchscreen game" which led me to this video. I then searched for other people who were talking about this video and found it referenced here. Although the poster didn't know the name of the game, they mentioned that they'd played it in McDonalds which led me to search for "Touchscreen game McDonalds Snowman" which led me to this video with the name of the game. — Valorum 18 hours ago

Can't say I always meet eye to eye with Valorum but I really admire their doing this

Mithrandir

11:40

Update: no lasers needed!

user302202

Still waiting for "my great question was unfairly removed from HNQ" meta complaints

user302202

I guess that will be when IPS goes back in the list.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir hooray!

Tinkeringbell

@MSOGA I don't think so.

@Mithrandir \o/

Magisch

11:58

@Tinkeringbell current meta voting says it would go back on the list, no?

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Oh, that's probably going to happen. I'm just saying I think there won't be a need to wait for 'unfair removal from HNQ' complaints until then ;)

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Is there a revision history item when a question is removed from HNQ?

If not, is there a timeline item?

Magisch

no and no afaik

and moderator exlusions from HNQ are invisible outside of mod tools

Tinkeringbell

> In addition, an event will be logged in the post timeline and edit history that indicates when it was removed and by whom

for mod removed ones

It's in the question.

Magisch

:o

Tinkeringbell

12:03

They even wrote down what happens to questions that age out of HNQ, but I trust those interested to be capable of looking that up themselves

Magisch

Is that event only visible to mods? Asking because of : meta.stackexchange.com/a/325163

and the subsequent discussion

Tinkeringbell

Post doesn't say, I assume it's not mod-only

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@Tinkeringbell I missed an important word there, public

@Tinkeringbell Browsing a revision history or timeline while logged out will confirm or deny it.

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheWizardWerehog Go ahead, and make sure to let us know :)

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@Tinkeringbell Not a mod

Seeking out a test question that was removed from HNQ manually would be difficult.

Shadow Wizard

12:18

plz-delete Russian java meta.stackexchange.com/questions/325212 @rene @Bart

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheWizardWerehog I'm not a mod either when logged out...

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheWizardWerehog I'm pretty sure that since the "became hot" is public, the "removed from hot list" would be public too. Like bounty removal notice.

Journeyman Geek

I'm not a mod outside my two sites ;p

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@Tinkeringbell If they are publicly visible, how can I search for and find a question with such a revision history item? If they're not, it would be impossible for me to test in any way.

Bookends

the "93%" meta post is currently having... 1% hotness

Shadow Wizard

12:21

?

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Point was, if you see the revision history/timeline item when logged into your mod account but don't see it when logged out, it's not visible.

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends meta sites are excluded from HNQ so.... not relevant anyway?

Bookends

@SonictheWizardWerehog "entering HNQ" is ID 52, "removed from HNQ" is probably ID 53

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@Bookends It's been less than a week since the new feature has rolled out; it rolled out after the last SEDE update so I can't query for that.

Bookends

but no particular HNQ have been removed yet, so...

Shadow Wizard

12:23

@Bookends that we know of...

Bookends

well, try to make one HNQ on Android.SE, and I'll remove it ;p

Shadow Wizard

I actually do have a pending question for android.SE, about Huawei step count on lock screen.... but need to research if it's trivial first, still didn't have time. lol

Generally speaking, got no idea what this is and how it works.

There's just a shoe icon with number that appear to reset in random times.

Bookends

reminds me of (shameless plug)

20

A: Step counter doesn't reset the step count

From Android Sensor API: public static final int TYPE_STEP_COUNTER A sensor of this type returns the number of steps taken by the user since the last reboot while activated. The value is returned as a float (with the fractional part set to zero) and is reset to zero only on a system reb...

Catija

@Tinkeringbell it's public

@Bookends correct

Tinkeringbell

@Catija Yay, I was right :)

Bookends

12:32

@Catija Yay, I was right :)

Catija

There's a few on math.

Magisch

So the whole argument with Mr. Paradox was pointless anyways

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends heh. Reboot of the device? I did it only once ever since buying it few months ago. It's being reset at least every few days, maybe every day, but pretty sure I saw days where it didn't.

Tinkeringbell

Mar 8 at 20:03, by Tinkeringbell

Okay. I've noticed this more and more so let me make one thing clear: I am the parrot here!

Bookends

@ShadowWizard that's what the Android SDK does, but certainly any apps/vendors can customize/workaround it until it confuses users...

Magisch

12:35

@Tinkeringbell in before several more people change their avatar to parrots of varying colors

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch I think I could co-habit in this room with a blue one. Green ones will be kicked? :P

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

12:46

Parrots are for raising Chao

Magisch

13:02

why close something on meta as pob

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Some things are too opinion based, even for meta?

Catija

@Tinkeringbell Green is the best.

2

Tinkeringbell

@Catija ._.

I thought we were kinda sort-of supposed to perhaps work together in moderating this thing

Catija

You're already kinda green anyway.

Tinkeringbell

I am going to file a complaint. That's moderator abuse! :P

Magisch

13:06

Green Tinkeringbell userscript: Colors tink's name green and replaces avatar with a greenshifted version

Tinkeringbell

I'm going to ship a box of glitter to whoever decides to make that.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Eww, Unicorn poop

Journeyman Geek

13:22

@Tinkeringbell special glitter

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek red glitter

Journeyman Geek

erm....

cough

Think worse

Bookends

opacity: .8;
background-color: green;

xdtTransform

14:27

Do we have a Community that will accept question about pilote with hash error question?

user302202

1

Q: Do we have posts that would be worth advertising?

In the aim of bringing more people to SE, the powers that be have decided to revitalize the main SE twitter account. They then asked us mods to propose questions from our sites that might be worthy of being shared by said accounts. Ideally these posts show how we work and the knowledge we can s...

discussion featured community-promotion

user302202

Aviation appears to be first to discuss this.

user302202

Odd timing with the HNQ hiding feature. "There are things that you hide, and things that you show"

user302202

Oops, misquoted despite my unhealthy fixation with old pop music.

user302202

George Michael - I Want Your Sex (Stereo Version)

►

Tinkeringbell

14:41

@MSOGA Both have something in common too: They are both focused on allowing to show the best a site has to offer

user302202

IMO hand selection of posts for Twitter promotion, with three levels (users, mods, CM) is not worth the effort.

user302202

If I'm interested in subject X, I want to read good stuff about it no matter where it's published. OTOH I do not wake up with the thought "what's new on Stack Exchange, I want to read it no matter what the subject"

user302202

Which may explain why that account never generated much engagement to begin with.

MEE the setup wizard

15:11

Meta Stack Exchange was without proper design.

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@MEEthesetupwizard It's Pseudohuman's fault.

MEE the setup wizard

15:42

@Tinkeringbell I made one: gist.github.com/zoxuyu/788a6b9668ac16bd3dc24a341ca6b021

:)

Bookends

incoming kick-ban!?!?!?!

Tinkeringbell

@Bookends Or a years worth of chat suspension. I'll have to discuss that though. BRB

MEE the setup wizard

@Tinkeringbell Hey, you promised a box of glitter...

Tinkeringbell

@MEEthesetupwizard Please fill out the form: shipyourenemiesglitter.com

MEE the setup wizard

Such a website really exists?

Tinkeringbell

15:47

Yeap! :D and it's quite successful if I'm correct ;)

Magisch

16:04

@Tinkeringbell Do you actually want to pay 20€ to send someone glitter?

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch sure!

Rob

16:27

Pickle Soda is another idea.

John Dvorak

I bet it's even worse than hazelnut coffee

user302202

Wwat, I'm drinking hazelnut all the time, including right now.

John Dvorak

Congratulations. You have failed the Turing test.

user302202

So if anyone wants to send me some, sure.

rene

18:07

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MEE the setup wizard

18:26

> Fun times are ahead. - Nick Craver♦ 49 mins ago

rene

define "fun"

Tinkeringbell

19:04

@rene here you go

rene

19:20

Thanks ... I guess ... ;)

Shog9

hyphen-moving-friendly answer for Ol' Slim.

rene

20:04

Note to self: Don't play guessing games with Shog9

Tinkeringbell

42

The answer is always 42

In other news... I now want a guinea pig again

rene

Might be a selfie of one of the RO's from SOCVR

Tinkeringbell

20:19

@rene goes to spy

No guinea pigs there...

rene

@Tinkeringbell I confused it with Paul/Kyle/The squirrel

Tinkeringbell

Well that doesn't look like a guinea pig either :P

rene

no, true

@Tinkeringbell I asked him ...

Tinkeringbell

20:37

aaaand?

rene

we have to wait for 6 to 8 weeks ...

Tinkeringbell

Okay. Then I'm going to sleep first ;)

rene

Good call

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