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12:07 AM

And I mean copy pasted

1:06 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (80): Why lower back pain during Straight Leg Raises by Pocketfluff on fitness.SE

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Glorfindel Could you also code another bot to fix broken UserVoice links? I realized that many of the old links that are currently leading to 404s are in fact not quite broken; they just need a slight URL change to work.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog maybe post pointing this out and the fix first?

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

1:29 AM

@JourneymanGeek On mobile, and I forgot what the fix was; will post when I get back to my computer. Was intending to post when he responded to my message

Journeyman Geek

No rush.

But always worth getting many eyes on a problem, not just one

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek If I were to post it on meta I'm not sure how I'd post it. A self-answered question, a normal question, or a Stack Apps request?

Journeyman Geek

The second - post pointing out user voice links are broken. Talk about why this matters and that it's fixable. Ask if the community feels it's worth fixing.

Don't worry about the bot.

For extra awesome a count of total user voice links may add impact - pointing out that all/not all may be broken

Basically make a case and facilitate the fixes if the community wants. The question is really about whether it's worth fixing first. The exact process we can deal with in a week or two

Importantly... We really can't be making these decisions in chat or worse unilaterally.

Catija

1:48 AM

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog just ask if we can fix the links. If the change is standard between them we have a tool, we just generally prefer to use it on bigger jobs.

Journeyman Geek

(community/and or people with industrial grade bots ;p)

Bookends

2:17 AM

MondayMorning

Catija

2:39 AM

The Mamas & The Papas - Monday Monday

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Rob

3:02 AM

@Catija Is this what you are using, the Hankook Mirae Technology METHOD 2 Bot:

Catija

No. It's one of the Gundams.

Rob

K

Journeyman Geek

@Rob wall-e

Bookends

Aibo

Also, apparently the angry song meta post has been mentioned here, oh well~

inb4 the current avatar is unreadable 🤔

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

3:23 AM

@Catija The job is not that big; as it turns out all threads other than ones marked "declined" are in fact deleted. But for those that aren't deleted, changing /pages/1722-general or /pages/general to /forums/1722-general fixes the link.

Performing said change to the link in this post leads to a valid link.

But not all the links will be fixed; as I said, if the actual thread wasn't marked "declined", it wasn't retained.

Rob

3:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek AFAIK it's a real working exosuit. The company appears to have been bought out a couple of times, the last site I checked wasn't responsive and I didn't bother pursuing it any further.

Journeyman Geek

@Rob I mean I was thinking of WALL-E or one of those robot arms

Rob

Ah ...

user302202

> Nigh three weeks ago, we made official our request to exit beta.

user302202

Known as Wrexit for brevity.

user302202

And will take about as long.

Rob

3:44 AM

How about robot fingers:

MIT Robot Breaks Rubik’s Cube Record

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Bookends

Would be more interesting if there was no "Record" on the title.

user302202

A neat project.

Rob

Less than 0.4 is pretty quick. I've seen a better video but I'm actually on vacation and just check in for a minute every once in a while to see if there's something requiring my attention. By the time I find the video we'll (hopefully) be discussing something else.

user302202

Faxing a document to China turns out to be a lot more complicated than I thought.

user302202

The machine is turned off for the night, which neatly coincides with my business day.

user302202

3:52 AM

And sending a scan of the same document by email is apparently not acceptable. (Logic? What's that?)

user302202

FR: outlaw fax machines internationally.

user302202

There is a suspicious user on Salesforce. (¬_¬)

Rob

It took less time than I thought, my Google-Fu skillz found it. It's nowhere near as fast but it has three finger hands instead of single finger:

Rubik's Cube Manipulation Using a High-speed Robot Hand

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Bookends

@Mrs.Robinson so suspicious...

almost defended the user, but after consideration, it's better not to

user302202

Yeah.

user302202

3:57 AM

Their mods can write in reference to my Stack Exchange account, if they want... I notice mods in general like writing on this subject.

Rob

@Mrs.Robinson They probably turn it off to prevent toner-bombing. Create an infinity long FAX page that's a 100% black and send it to someone, eats all the paper and toner (and makes a mess).

user302202

Which is something that emailed scans cannot do...

Rob

The FAX you send is very tiny because the compression algorithm takes care of it. It might take a minute on your end but it takes hours on the other end to decompress the short sequence of bytes that you transmit.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Software for manual audio transcription (speech, interviews etc.) by BenWiley4000 on askubuntu.com

Rob

afk

Bookends

4:06 AM

this office's internet... afk

user302202

resuming my suspicious activities... afk

Journeyman Geek

I have no keyboard.

SmokeDetector

4:23 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): How can I find out the commission rates for agents recruiting international students to the UK? by Vivien Tse on academia.SE

user302202

Back to check if the avatar is updated already.

user302202

Public Enemy - Fight The Power

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user302202

Apparently not yet

Bookends

6:06 AM

Okay. That hurts my eyes and unreadable >_>

John Dvorak

How does something hurt an unreadable?

Journeyman Geek

6:30 AM

Just hit it with the unspeakable

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (61): Ubuntu 18.04 no DNS resolution when connected to openvpn by Victoria Tegg on askubuntu.com

Glorfindel

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog if the CMs can fix this without bumping the posts, all the better. My bot could (in addition) find Wayback Machine links for the declined ones.

I'll first do a dry run to estimate the # of posts affected (including the # for which the Wayback Machine trick is necessary (and actually works)).

SmokeDetector

6:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, blacklisted website in body (165): Increase the customer traffic on your website with the help of 100tb dedicated servers by Ankit Kumar Sharma on superuser.com

Journeyman Geek

7:33 AM

@Bookends I suspect the color scheme is designed to do that

Shadow Wizard

umm.... why is this account follows me???? lol

world record chicken

@worldchicken19

The egg has hatched! Let’s get this chicken passed the current world record of 5 million RT! Do you support the chicken? 🌎🐓

1 tweets, 13 followers, following 364 users

Of course it's some fake, but.... why me?

Tinkeringbell

It wants a reteweet?

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body (99): What is Cloud based HR solution and how to use it in country Hong Kong? by sudeep loren on superuser.com

Journeyman Geek

7:50 AM

@Tinkeringbell .....

@ShadowWizard Twitter is odd

This is following me

Global Leadership

@LeadGlobalOrg, Washington D.C.

The Global Leadership Institute provides personal and organizational leadership conferences and coaching to companies and individuals.

5.4k tweets, 58.6k followers, following 7.6k users

Why would a us think tank bother with a mostly anonymous geek?

Well their bot follows about 60k people...

Bookends

@ShadowWizard because they know SE users love Chicken™️

... and I don't want to mention who follows my secret Twitter account, unless I want to get the message removed instantly (and probably chat suspension)

Journeyman Geek

8:05 AM

Lol

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell but... why choose me? I have nothing on twitter

@Bookends ohhhh

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard it's clucking odd.

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends starts with "P", ends with "b"? :P

Bookends

@ShadowWizard nah, not that big, but a little... personal? 🤔

just like your daily spam email...

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends Viagra got twitter?!

:D

Bookends

8:09 AM

anything got twitter...

Shadow Wizard

omg

viagra

@james_bong_, lost vegas

i am a single mom and a full time cocktail waitress. you have to call me dragon

20.6k tweets, 2.5k followers, following 840 users

rofl

Bookends

> dragon

Shadow Wizard

with such name I expected millions of people to follow...

Magisch

8:38 AM

> We offer free Pro licenses for Microsoft MVPs, users with high reputation, active on other forums and helping others to solve SQL-server related problems. (Platforms like Microsoft Connect, StackOverflow, SQLServerCentral and others), active users, who help others to solve problems, write extensive feedback, propose new features, help us to find and fix problems. "Active" and "Extensive" are important keywords here.

From a SSMS (SQL Server Management Studio) plugin I use :P

a pro license for this plugin costs 150€ so that's not quite nothing

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body (97): Why Whiteboard Animation Is effective News for Your Business by JayRani on freelancing.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (80): US bank account - Which information should I provide? by JayRani on freelancing.SE

Shadow Wizard

8:55 AM

sd 2k

@JNat cross site spammer, for your ever caring handling. Thanks! :)

SmokeDetector

9:30 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, blacklisted website in answer (171): How to prevent persistent XSS vulnerability with the Java Struts 1 Framework? by Siva Sundari on security.SE

Bookends

0

Q: Desks and Workplaces Proposal

Proposal: Desks and Workplaces Are you not sure how to arrange your desk? It what desk would look best in your environment? Then this proposal is for you! Here questions include: Ideas on how to arrange desks, both st home and at work (detail must be given) Improving desk layout(a clear pro...

Probably should be merged with Puzzling...

SmokeDetector

10:03 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, blacklisted user (70): Latest Anarkali Suits by Admir Trajnin on travel.SE

Rob

@ShadowWizard Reverse the letters, that's why the job; didn't graduate.

Derpy

10:22 AM

Morning....

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer (86): "Esto mihi in rupem praesidii et in domum munitam..." by john on latin.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected (161): How do I contact Facebook about a false report when I'm blocked? ✏️ by Catherine Elizabeth Clay on webapps.SE

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

10:37 AM

Have we ever come across a spammer or troll who kept rolling back their post so as to keep invalidating red flags?

Journeyman Geek

10:48 AM

Thankfully no

Anyway if that happened and people got wise, that's why we have side channels of communication

And getting around things like that with intent is sure to have mods lining up to ruin your day

... for cat's sake...

Derpy

So... Let me tell you a tale. It took place 360,000 - no, 14,000 time units ago

Journeyman Geek

I came across an actual mobile bug

Bookends

I came across an actual bug

Mithrandir

I nearly ran over a snail

Derpy

...To me it seems like yesterday. For you, it might be tomorrow. It's the story of a pony, known by two different names.

....

ok, maybe replaying El Shaddai wasn't a good idea.

Bookends

10:57 AM

Is that mane alright? Yes, there's no problem

aww... ninja'd

Derpy

Anyway, since I once mentioned this...

Feb 23 '18 at 11:13, by Derpy

As a final notice... I somehow "despise" Gameloft and their inflated prices but I have to admit that every ads I ever saw in their games was about others games their produced (with one single exception - some mayor telephone company ads). Angry Birds on the opposite from what I saw was filled with random ads from providers that probably were found laying near the trash cans outside Rovio headquarters.

Journeyman Geek

chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/109328/… check out this post on the Android client and webui

Shadow Wizard

@Rob argaiv?

Journeyman Geek

Probably an old one

Derpy

The message above, it was even stared when I posted it last year

Now, a year later, I think I own you a little.. correction.

I said Gameloft was better.

It is not the case.

Journeyman Geek

10:59 AM

Oddly... No dupe

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy umm... you know El Shaddai is one of God names... ?

(it's forbidden to say the name in Hebrew)

Bookends

@ShadowWizard it's also the title of a game... which spawned meme (at least in Japan, not sure worldwide)

Derpy

@ShadowWizard Nope, didn't know, but totally expected.

Shadow Wizard

And all that intro just to resubmit something about ads in a game? I probably missed something there... @Derpy

Derpy

Bookends

11:01 AM

@ShadowWizard it's the trailer of the game...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard nope. Derpy likes being dramatic ;p

Bookends

@JourneymanGeek dupe of chemistry.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3834/…

Derpy

@ShadowWizard no, that was just the effect of running thru levels like this one again

has nothing to do with the ads thing

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek dramatic entrance? yeah.... :D

Derpy

just my brain melting. Or whatever was left of it

Shadow Wizard

11:07 AM

As usual, totally lost when trying to understand @Derpy. So it means all is normal. :P

Derpy

@ShadowWizard Invention, my dear friends, is 93% perspiration, 6% electricity, 4% evaporation, and 2% Rarity.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy no blood? :(

Derpy

anyway back on topic

Just letting you folks know in case someone is actually interested

Bookends

That armor doesn't look okay...

You have to ask for the best armor

Derpy

@Bookends I will take the best you have

Journeyman Geek

11:10 AM

@ShadowWizard the blood. Oh god the blood

Derpy

back on topic, just a warning then.

Bookends

insert dramatic choral music

Derpy

Seems that currently Gameloft isn't doing a good job with ads scrutiny

just saw yesterday some pretty bad ads pop up in some games

We are talking about ads that automatically try to open store pages and web pages when displayed, with no user interaction involved.

trying to have them reported, but I am not really very confident this will be fixed soon (or fixed at all...)

so if anyone is playing Gameloft mobile games, it may be worth to keep an eye open

I think some of the ads may even try to perform automatic subscription to weekly paid services (the usual "free weekly html5 games, only 5$/week bloat) , but luckly the victim had those services already disabled at mobile network operator level

Shadow Wizard

11:27 AM

@JourneymanGeek did God invent the blood?

@Derpy ads in mobile games were always bad for the user, and they just become more aggressive as the developers become more desperate for money. Nothing to report, it's totally by design.

Bookends

Latest MSE post... tread with care...

Derpy

@ShadowWizard violates at least five different rules in Google Play Developer Program Policy.

From deceptive advertising to non consensual navigation

Magisch

@Derpy aka why I dont play on mobile

I hate ads with such a burning passion I will not touch anything I can't adblock

@Bookends Not touching that with a 50ft pole

Shadow Wizard

11:45 AM

@Bookends this? Why?

Bookends

Temporal anomaly problem

Shadow Wizard

?

You compete with @Derpy? :D

Bookends

"Latest" for you seems different with "latest" from me...

Shadow Wizard

Latest is relative

New post might be posted any second.

So without link, it's useless. :)

(after few minutes)

Bookends

Latest MSE post... tread with care...

Shadow Wizard

11:47 AM

status-giving-up

Let's discuss simple things.... like bread!

Bread is simple.

and tasty.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard @Bookends tempted to answer but for the diamond

Hmm. Sock!

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek you reckon the diamond precludes you from answering?

If it's the same question I'm thinking of, it would boil down to "You can't expect people to care about that, and adding a disclaimer to that effect would be removed as noise" but that sounds heartless.

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch it would seem official

Magisch

point

Journeyman Geek

Posted with my sock ;p

Bookends

11:56 AM

almost... a... duplicate... of.... meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308643

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek It looks deleted to me...

Journeyman Geek

The argument I made is it's likely to be misused

Must have fat pawed it

Derpy

@Magisch To be fair, there are games that does not have ads despite being free (the developer only gets money from in-game purchases or indirect-brand advertising - think the pokemon mobile games that basically are advertisement for the console ones)

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Thought so ;)

Magisch

> New contributor

I spy a lie

Bookends

11:59 AM

@Bookends oh, back then, someone didn't have the diamond yet

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Out of curiosity, on this post, why did you post it through your alternate account, have it delete its own post, and then reverse the deletion through your main account?

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] English text in answer on a localized site (62): Он — гребец, она — ? by Fora on rus.SE

Journeyman Geek

Cause I didn't mean to delete it and was too lazy to log back in

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Sock abuse!

Journeyman Geek

Plausibly ;p

But I asked myself nicely...

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

12:02 PM

@JourneymanGeek Ha, now your answer appears to be from a "new contributor".

Journeyman Geek

Technically true

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

Perhaps you should delete and repost it through your main account

Journeyman Geek

Nope

Magisch

not posting it on the main account was deliberate afaik

ref: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/7547450#7547450

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

Ah, didn't read the back messages.

Journeyman Geek

12:03 PM

That helps ;p

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Bookends Not quite a dupe; the OP there is making the claim that all comments directed toward them are bad, while this one isn't

Journeyman Geek

Besides it's nearly impossible to post as aibobot accidentally ( other than that one time)

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

Plus I answered it under the opposite assumption, so the answers there won't really help this author

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog tldr - I didn't want my answer misconstrued as official

And in this specific case I wanted to have some extra tact

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek By the way, have you heard of several incidents on U.S. airlines where people attempted to pass off pets as "emotional support animals"?

Journeyman Geek

12:05 PM

Yup

Peacocks

And that's what I was referring to

Also the use of the S word was slightly intentional. I have nothing good to say about anxiety ;p

I'd like something stronger than what you edited in but less sweaty than what I wrote ._.

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog agree, one is a rant, the one posted today (took me time to realize that's what you all talk about) is much less of a rant.

@JourneymanGeek IMO that "s" word is fine and not offensive in any way. considered rolling back the edit, but decided to not intervene.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Considering the recent...incidents...best to be on the safe side.

At least the words are coming from a "new contributor" rather than a "moderator", but still, anyone can figure out easily that it was posted through an alternate account (and raise controversy "this moderator posted through an alternate account to evade blah blah...")

Magisch

to evade what?

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Magisch The Code of Conduct

Magisch

The false appearance of officiality? JG's posting from an alternate account was mostly a courtesy extended to those that don't fully know that moderators on MSE no longer == employees

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

12:16 PM

@Magisch And new users are often unaware of the exact opposite.

> Examples of people not being very nice include people who blatantly do not read your question and say it's a duplicate of a question that is unrelated (in fact the possible duplicate does even use the words mental or health!

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch precisely

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog not sure what I'm evading other than a little bit of responsibility

In this specific case, I didn't want my post as being seen as official

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog CoC doesn't say anything about using "strong" words to describe feelings. "shitty experience" isn't offending anyone.

Journeyman Geek

It's literally 2 clicks to work out aibobot is my sock

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog let's say I did something suspension worthy with aibo...

I'll have a short awkward talk with the CMs. Then quit as a mod. Apologising to everyone involved

So confused over how using a sock to post evades the COC

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Not exactly saying that merely using an expletive is suspension-worthy.

Journeyman Geek

I'd have posted it as my own account too

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

12:24 PM

@JourneymanGeek Not asserting that it is; I'm saying that some new user may come by and make that (mistaken) claim

Journeyman Geek

Anxiety is shitty and terrible

Shadow Wizard

Yup

Journeyman Geek

So we deal with that.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

And we're all aware that SE tends to react on mistaken claims if it results in bad publicity.

Derpy

btw, your friend has returned @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

12:24 PM

Who?

Derpy

your favorite user from last week

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Derpy Who?

Shadow Wizard

The one with NSFW avatar.

Journeyman Geek

Ah

Shadow Wizard

I wondered when @Derpy will notice and report. ;)

And the fact @Derpy looks out for such users is.... bit weird. :D

Derpy

12:26 PM

@ShadowWizard give me time, I am pretty bored with the amazon incident.

Journeyman Geek

Don't see it. Custom flag kthx

Shadow Wizard

Spam post is long gone, by flags.

(I think, like most spam posts on MSE.)

Derpy

@ShadowWizard starting some attempt at automating recognition of already used images.

Shadow Wizard

heh, think they're using different images.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard derpy has ways ;p

Derpy

12:29 PM

@ShadowWizard possible. Anyway, don't worry - probably will be the last time I check. Starting to get pretty annoyed, and if they can't implement some filter, why should I be the watchdog.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Dog? Weren't you a pony?

Or a little pony. Different species. Can stand on legs

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek tis'

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Minimus poniae

Magisch

(painful personal experience notwithstanding)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I'm starting to get anxious about whether I'm anxious

Dangit. I need a moment

Journeyman Geek

12:34 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ take two

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

I think the best outcome for this question is to escalate this for a CM to answer with the exact details of what is going on, so that we all know.

Derpy

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ that would be Vendibilis Equinos

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

A person's amount of rep does not prevent a ban. There are cases of users with more than 1.000.000 rep getting suspended. — S.L. Barth 24 secs ago

Jon Skeet got suspended?

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy you expect SE to put some AI image detector that will block avatars if they are NSFW?

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Wouldn't be hard to implement a NN

Shadow Wizard

12:37 PM

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog what about false positives?

Derpy

@ShadowWizard would be fine with a "Flag this avatar as inappropriate, offensive or NSFW" button

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog One of those dots was in a European spirit, and the other in an American

Shadow Wizard

Even with rate of 1% fp, it means thousands of people confused and angry due to totally legit avatar blocked.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Derpy Not a good idea

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Not blocking avatars; flagging them for mod attention

Shadow Wizard

12:38 PM

So better let mods handle it by flags, and all is good.

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog auto flags? Yet again, it will mean extra load on the mods.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I HATE ADMINS AND I FLAG THERE PICS. THERE. HAHA. I FEELS GOOD ABOUT MYSEFL

Shadow Wizard

lol

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog hopefully not because by all accounts he is a genuinely nice guy

Derpy

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ totally a good idea, same workflow like now, but at least one wouldn't need to use autoflag to report those. Also....

Shadow Wizard

Letting users flag avatars will mean thousands of pointless flags every day, no doubt.

Derpy

12:39 PM

> I HATE ADMINS AND I FLAG THERE COMMENTS. THERE. HAHA. I FEELS GOOD ABOUT MYSEFL

^ same. exact. thing

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@JourneymanGeek change butt cause to be cause

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard So you mean to tell me, extra load on the mods on having to take care of offensive avatars? I'd much rather they take on that load.

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog no, I prefer them to use their time on moderating the site.

Removing profiles of users without any post is really low priority.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard I think taking care of offensive avatars very much constitutes "moderating the site".

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Derpy No not really unless said admin does comment. They don't go hunting for comments but it makes much more sense to them to hunt users

Shadow Wizard

12:41 PM

Yes they might be spammy or have bad avatars, but so what? Who see it?

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Their avatars are visible if they, say, suggest edits

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Auto-flag on offensive avatars decided on what basis?

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog in such case sure, mod should take action.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ image detection

Derpy

@ShadowWizard notice that I didn't flag this one?

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Maybe only run the algorithm on activity?

Shadow Wizard

12:42 PM

Same as tumblr used to mass block millions of accounts/posts.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard very badly

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Hmm, it's no easy peasy task dev-side though, is it?

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek no idea.... you have info on that? :)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I'd rather have that time spent on things with bigger impact

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard just people being irate

Derpy

12:43 PM

... that was my way to tell you "if you are fine with it being there since it is so well hidden that no one - not even the 13 years old users of the site - will ever notice it... be fine! Keep it!"

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ not really, it's hard to distinguish hand from... something else... when in certain angles, for example. And tons more examples for possible false positives.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Well...if you take the dot as a decimal point then the statement is true...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Sure, the worst of the trolls do enjoy nonblocked/flagged avatars but they're quantitatively low

Derpy

after all... who would ever think to browse the users list? It is not like users would look at other users hats or rep ranking...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@ShadowWizard Yes, that was actually exactly what I was thinking. A hand might look like an elephant trunk.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

12:44 PM

@Derpy They could

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog yeah, makes more sense. Feel free to write the algorithm, and put it in a feature request. :)

@Derpy I doubt NSFW avatar owner will wear hats. Or gain rep.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Derpy we need to distinguish between "bad avatars should be dealt with" and "there should be an inaccurate systematic way of detecting them". I don't think @Sha disagrees with the first

Well I don't

Shadow Wizard

Their profiles can only be found by going to specific tab in users page.

Magisch

against gut feeling I did end up writing an answer to that post

Derpy

@ShadowWizard how could I forget.....

meta.stackexchange.com/…; showNSFW=false

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

12:46 PM

@Magisch And now it's giving you a stomachache?

Some posts do that

Derpy

missed the query string parameter, sorry....

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

BBL

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy this one is offensive for cows!

Sicaa

1 1

:D

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard udderly

Shadow Wizard

heh, looks like @Derpy is correct though, same avatar is used.

Some famous singer, it appears, just without all her clothes. o_O

Journeyman Geek

12:50 PM

.... I just nuked it

Derpy

considering that user used the same picture twice already...

Shadow Wizard

They'll use it again.

Journeyman Geek

Yup and I think we're happy to make them go away if we're informed

Bookends

Running nose is annoying 🙁

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy regarding 13 y/o users seeing those, believe me..... they see much worse things on other sites, I can bet on this. SE is one of the most safe sites in that regard, and the ability to flag and have such bad profiles nuked in matter of minutes or even hours is something most sites will never suggest.

So, this isn't valid argument in favor of some auto detection. :)

Bookends

12:56 PM

When a Meta post asked for adult-only participants? (There's one)

(not on MSE though)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Bookends Ugh . . . and after the skin is chafing and it hurts when you want to clean it . . .

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends invalid. Flag and nuke.

Involve a CM if needed.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard since you seem to be interested in a full argument... Ok, we will do that.

There are two issues here - profiles and avatars. For avatars, a way to report them without having to flag YOUR messages would be fine.

Bookends

I wonder if CM/staffs have to read all network-wide Meta posts...

Derpy

Especially since I suspect that having to many custom flag on a single message could trigger on some automated mod alert (as does having to many edits)

Journeyman Geek

12:59 PM

Nope

Derpy

as for the profiles... the dog already explained many times why having them indexed isn't a nice thing...

Very funny when stack comes up as a result for "car insurance" on Google

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