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Derpy

1:00 PM

and at least these could be avoided somehow.

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy on the short term though all I can do is bring it up on meta and wipe out a few bored

Derpy

See "Leonizing" Monica proposal here, for example...

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A: Spam Profiles are getting my goat. Could we have better tools for mods to deal with profile spam?

A further refinement to Ilmari Karonen's answer (which refines Mad Scientist's): make profiles of new accounts that haven't done anything visible only to logged-in users. This does a few things: Keeps them out of Google. No 'noindex', no robots.txt -- Google just can't see it. That's gotta b...

Magisch

I wonder if monica ever recovered her goat

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

What was left of it

Revelation: That's not coffee in her cup, but goat milk.

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch technically my goat. Terriers are not good sheepdogs

Shadow Wizard

1:09 PM

Maybe @Tinkeringbell is crocheting using that goat's fur?! ;)

Tinkeringbell

Goat fur is usually a bit short to make proper yarn :)

Bookends

Done reading the comments and the answers

Based from my ~~maso~~ reckless behavior of participating in hot Meta posts, you have to be able to discern comments directed to your post, or yourself...

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell what if the goat is well fed?

Magisch

if @tink were to use the goat's fur as yarn, wouldn't it be more expedient to just shave instead of kill the goat to maximize future yarn earning potential?

Bookends

Seems I got addicted in testing the (hot) water...

Shadow Wizard

1:17 PM

@Magisch who said the goat is killed? @M.A.R. mentioned milk, I mentioned fur. ;)

@Bookends all good, happens to the best. :P

BTW @Sonic thanks for the retraction and edit. :)

Derpy

It's me or char design look like "Winx stance" and "Code Lyoko face "? — Drag and Drop 5 hours ago

Shadow Wizard

hehe "Disney XD" is actual TV channel name! xD

Journeyman Geek

Yes

Shadow Wizard

Well, "ALVINNN!!! and the Chipmunks" is the actual name of a TV show too, so.... :P

(yes, I mentioned it yesterday already ;))

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard the original was less creepy looking

Derpy

1:33 PM

oh, nice. Now every-time someone says that MLP isn't on-topic for Science-Fiction&Fantasy I can link to the Teletubbies question.

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Q: When did Po's scooter start flying?

I used to sit with my young daughter in the 1990's watching Teletubbies, she was really into it. Her favourite was Po. Yesterday I was watching with my toddler grandson and Po was on her scooter and flying with it! When did Po's scooter get this flying ability? (AFAI knew it was pushed slowly a...

teletubbies

^ @Mithrandir

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek ... and there's no real room for folks being unkind s/real/' ' ?

Derpy

now we just need to add some Dora related question and we can finally take control of the site, and delete all the LotR and HP spam

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yeah, well, they needed something more extreme to attract kids. It's working. lol

@Derpy oh he's mod there?

@Derpy no Diego? :(

:(

Why delete? You are no smokey!

hehehe

Bookends

I couldn't stop my hand! Halp!

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends STOP.Now();

Derpy

1:37 PM

@ShadowWizard maybe we could get @Tinkeringbell to switch to Dora's pirate parrot

Shadow Wizard

wait();

Derpy

Shadow Wizard

lol

Don't remember that one and I've seen LOTS of Dora.... lol

Most impressive thing was that huge male chicken.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard feel bad for you.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy for watching so much Dora, or for not seeing the parrot?

Bookends

1:38 PM

Dora the Exploder

Derpy

@ShadowWizard first one

Shadow Wizard

hehe

It was nice

It was all years ago though.

Derpy

it is not about Dora, it is about the "Fake interactive kid show"

Shadow Wizard

They always find something new to watch.

Bookends

@Derpy like Blue's clues?

Shadow Wizard

1:39 PM

now they also found about the VOD service. o.O

Bookends

Heck, I watched it even as an adult...

Derpy

@Bookends not a fan of the "kids, where is the .... ? Can you see it?"

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends you... watched... Dora... as adult? Well... not that it's bad... but... :D

Derpy

and then the kid grows thinking the show is really interactive.

Bookends

@ShadowWizard Blue's Clues

Shadow Wizard

1:40 PM

MLP got more depth, so I can see why many adults watch it.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard there are two "Doras"

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy yeah, she "grew up"

To be a teenager.

Bookends

Becoming Doraemon

Shadow Wizard

With an app instead of map, etc.

Derpy

exactly

still as in-educational as ever as far as I know.

Shadow Wizard

1:42 PM

@Derpy why? I found it just fine, in my case it taught the kids some English words.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard "remember: you can totally reach Paris on a cruise ship if you are called Dora"

because, you know... Paris is a seaside city.

Shadow Wizard

It is? :D

Derpy

@ShadowWizard in Dora's dimension seems it is.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

The question earlier did identify an important problem: if a user attempts to have their question reopened, and reviewers disagree with reopening it, the user is not told in any way that their question has been reviewed and the consensus of the reviewers is that it should remain closed at that time.

I'm working on a post for that, but I don't want to phrase it in a way that gets downvotes.

Derpy

anyway, an error can happen , even if that scene has became a meme on its own

still, I repeat - not a fan of the fake interactivity

in Sugarcube Corner on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jan 11 at 15:38, by Derpy

see this ^

Journeyman Geek

1:52 PM

@Magisch true. There can be people trying hard to justify it ._.

And it's one of those phrases that crops up a lot when I write

Magisch

didn't want to edit without asking

Journeyman Geek

I'm ok with dropping the real if it's an improvement

Tbh though your answer covers what's needed

Shadow Wizard

sd k

Derpy

@Magisch @JourneymanGeek what is this attempt to switch the topic to meta discussion now?

We were talking about important stuff there.

Shadow was telling us about how he had to watch all seasons of Dora.

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Magisch

2:07 PM

@Derpy I wanted to edit one of JG's posts but didn't want to do it without asking

sorry I interrupted your MLP / dora discussion :D

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy not all seasons, just lots of random chapters. ;)

user302202

@ShadowWizard Excluding celiac disease sufferers. :-/

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

Having a different persona on MSE vs. on other sites does come in handy at times :)

Derpy

@ShadowWizard just know that thanks to you now I am listening to the Demashita PPG Z opening theme.

Shadow Wizard

@Mrs.Robinson nah, these days there is bread without gluten. It just cost x2 and more.

Still simple. ;)

Nice red avatar, @Mrs.Robinson :)

Derpy

2:41 PM

btw, unrelated...

Zelda Ocarina of Time Recreated in Dreams for PS4 - Dreams Beta

►

to be fair, the title is a little clickbait - they recreated the Kokiri Forest area...

Shadow Wizard

This reminds me, started to play Dragon Quest XI. Thanks, @Derpy. :)

Derpy

but this is the best quality video I could find of it

user302202

Is this a new thing? battleexchange.com

3

Derpy

also ... this.

Final Fantasy VII - Aerith's Church Remake on Dreams PS4 (Beta)

►

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy hmm?? How that happened? lol

@Mrs.Robinson lol!! Niceeee!!!

user302202

2:44 PM

I tried Jeff vs Shog on MSE

Derpy

@ShadowWizard because the song is actually pretty good?

Original Sound Track : Powerpuff Girls (Anime Version / Z) - Kibo no Kakera (Opening Theme 1)

►

Shadow Wizard

Better! :D

user302202

Need a permalink to share the results.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy but how am I related? :)

@Mrs.Robinson submit a feature request

user302202

meta.battleexchange.com can't be reached :(

Shadow Wizard

2:48 PM

@Mrs.Robinson no... twitter.

pritish vaidya

@PritishVaidya, Dharmsala, India

Software Developer

39 tweets, 26 followers, following 236 users

Dev of the game ^

Derpy

@ShadowWizard or this one

Shadow Wizard

Done!

@PritishVaidya I really like your new game https://battleexchange.com/! Feature request: can you please add a permalink to the results, so we can share it! Thanks. :-)

Tweeted by Yahav32498041 on February 11, 2019 at 2:49 PM

@Mrs.Robinson ^

@Derpy hehe, 1:1

Bookends

@ShadowWizard noOooOOooOO~ you'll get followed by more chickens :(

Shadow Wizard

lolz

Magisch

On an unrelated note I'll be job searching again soon

Shadow Wizard

2:51 PM

@Magisch :(

Derpy

@Bookends or more Scootaloos if you are lucky.

Shadow Wizard

Why?? You just said few days ago you're an asset to your company. @Magi

And you can't even be sick.

Magisch

@ShadowWizard The company owner went on a rant this morning about absences and how they won't be giving anyone with over 10 days of sick leave in 2018 any raises

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch and you have more than 10?

Magisch

Oh it'll suck for them, but I'm not about that life

I had 12

Tinkeringbell

2:54 PM

@Derpy NO WAY AM I GOING TO BE GREEN!

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell then I hereby request the next best thing.

Magisch

It's also more the principle of it

Derpy

Tavern users, unite now and vote.

Should @Tinkeringbell get turned into Hello Tinker?

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch well if they can't make an exception with you then they totally don't deserve you.

Big project or not.

Derpy

it is too cute. I say we should totally switch.

Shadow Wizard

2:57 PM

@Derpy but @Tink isn't just cute, she has the... red side. :D

Derpy

@ShadowWizard just think about the opportunities.

SE could earn a lot of money from a partnership with Sanrio (I mean, knowing most workplaces, the majority of SO userbase could probably become a big fan of Retsuko)

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard A new account? Why'd you delete your old one?

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog it went to directions I didn't want it to go.

Part of learning curve of twitter, I guess.

Hope to stay focused with this one. :)

Derpy

3:21 PM

@ShadowWizard wwws.warnerbros.co.jp/ninokunijp/index.html

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy ?

no know Japaneese

Bookends

@ShadowWizard apparently a movie

Derpy

3:47 PM

@ShadowWizard Ni No Kuni movie. Not many info yet, may be original story in same world

user302202

Hmm. ruSO is apparently going to allow mathematical questions, even unrelated to development. ruSO = SO + SF + SU + MathSE...

user302202

Weird. Why would anyone be hanging out on a programming site, answering rare math questions in between Java and C#.

Bookends

One site to rule them all...

Journeyman Geek

Wasn't there a math hashcode site?

user302202

Maybe they don't have enough programming homework, need math homework in addition.

user302202

3:56 PM

It's still there, math.hashcode.ru - with one user commenting on everyone's homework dump with solutions/hints

Journeyman Geek

Ya was wondering

user302202

These things tend to last... experts-exchange.com is still there, people still rock out on MySpace and blog on LiveJournal, etc.

user302202

Unless it's acquired by Google, a web property with some amount of content just keeps on existing...

Bookends

GeoCities...

user302202

Okay, acquired by Yahoo is another way out. (As it happened with Alta Vista)

user302202

4:07 PM

> is now looking at numbered days

user302202

Don't we all

user302202

The math/ruSO thing is a great example of why making decision on the basis of polls is such a bad idea.

user302202

Poll options consisted of a couple of catchy quotations and generated "yeah, math is cool" reactions / upvotes. So it's decided... and only then the actual consideration of the decision happens.

Journeyman Geek

If it works for them *shrug". It doesn't seem likely math.ru.se would be a thing

Bookends

ja.anime.stackexchange.com

user302202

4:18 PM

Woodworking could be axexchange.com or axeexchange.com

user302202

(I know, axes are not the main tools there...)

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Mrs.Robinson Or Microsoft

Journeyman Geek

@Mrs.Robinson they gave up on custom urls though

Bookends

android.stackoverflow.com (lol)

Journeyman Geek

Who knows. That could have happened

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

4:26 PM

@JourneymanGeek AU is a special case, due to the Canonical sponsorship...it used to be ubuntu.SE

user302202

@JourneymanGeek It almost did. If facebook.stackoverflow.com wasn't a failure...

user302202

Maybe stackaxechange.com instead

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Mrs.Robinson That was still SO; it was just a view of SO with only the Facebook tags

It wasn't a separate site

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy nice, if it will also be in English. :)

user302202

@StackExchange @codinghorror I believe I have a better answer to a 7 yo protected question in @askdifferent. I just signed up to it to share my solution, until just now didn’t even know that community. I can’t post nor comment. What can I do? Take my “secret” with me?

Tweeted by _spacemonkey13_ on February 11, 2019 at 3:42 PM

user302202

4:38 PM

Jeff is still being pinged about SO/SE.

Derpy

well, have to go for a while. See you later.

will probably also have to delete a few Gameloft apps....

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

Interesting find at my local IKEA store: a clock that doesn't tick but instead shows a light next to the seconds. I opened it up and it turns out there's a separate mechanism to drive the light than to drive the clock hands

user302202

> The owner of stackoverflow.in is offering it for sale for an asking price of 5000 USD!

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Mrs.Robinson In the U.S., knowingly registering domain names that correspond to trademarks is an offense.

user302202

4:54 PM

Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act

The Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act (ACPA), 15 U.S.C. § 1125(d), is a U.S. law enacted in 1999 that established a cause of action for registering, trafficking in, or using a domain name confusingly similar to, or dilutive of, a trademark or personal name. The law was designed to thwart “cybersquatters” who register Internet domain names containing trademarks with no intention of creating a legitimate web site, but instead plan to sell the domain name to the trademark owner or a third party. Critics of the ACPA complain about the non-global scope of the Act and its potential to restrict...

user302202

However, "stack overflow" is an established term that predates SO.

user302202

For comparison, Sting lost a dispute over sting.com back in the days: wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2000/d2000-0596.html

user302202

Although he got the domain eventually.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Mrs.Robinson If the domain was registered before the name "Stack Overflow" was established, it's likely the owner would prevail, but if it was registered much later, they probably wouldn't.

user302202

> Or is it a question out of mere curiosity? But you know what happened to the cat... Right, but maybe it's schrödinger's cat, which means that at the end of this completely irrelevant train of thought, curiosity REALLY did and did NOT kill the cat.
Except if the cat's out of a box.
Then it probably just got wasted.
See, thinking out of the box can get you killed.

user302202

5:07 PM

So much wisdom in stackoverflow.com/a/7731999

Feeds

...an effect size of 1.68 (95% CI: 1.56 (95% CI: 1.52 (95% CI: 1.504 (95% CI: 1.494 (95% CI: 1.488 (95% CI: 1.485 (95% CI: 1.482 (95% CI: 1.481 (95% CI: 1.4799 (95% CI: 1.4791 (95% CI: 1.4784...

2

user302202

5:28 PM

Nice, fractal error bars.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer (80): How to start/stop service on a remote computer with an out of sync clock by Maurice Torres on superuser.com

user302202

An Engineering Manager at SO is asking...

user302202

What are the apps that make you a better person?

Tweeted by SaraJChipps on February 11, 2019 at 4:57 AM

user302202

Out of those on my phone... 1) Kindle; 2) Calendar; 3) Gmail.

user302202

2-3 because keeping appointments and replying to questions ought to count for something

Rob

5:32 PM

Fortnite

ArtOfCode

5:46 PM

starting to believe that SO really does have an issue with privacy

0

Q: Please don't auto-subscribe me to job alerts

I got an email today: I haven't had one of those emails since I last unsubscribed from them a Long Time Ago. Today, apparently I'm subscribed to them again, despite not having done anything to that effect: Not only do I not have any job alerts as the email would like to suggest, I also didn...

support jobs

Mithrandir

:/

ArtOfCode

SE has always been good about this kind of thing, but I think the new marketing/sales people have missed a memo about it somewhere

Andy

yeah, this last month or so hasn't been good in this regard

Shog9

@Mrs.Robinson calendar is huge. Before I had a smart phone, I ran a server that'd send me SMS messages before appointments. Before that, I was "the guy who is always 30 minutes late to everything"

That said, I still routinely see a notification 10 minutes before a meeting, think "10 minutes is plenty of time to do ... something" and then show up 10 minutes late

Wanted: app that notifies me 10 minutes, 2 minutes, 20 seconds before events.

Magisch

How many meetings do you have?

Shog9

5:59 PM

Not many

Catija

You could always join the meeting when you get the 10 minute warning and then just hang out.

Shog9

But too many

Magisch

I have like 3 a week max and it feels like way too many

I can keep track of them but they always feel like I could be doing more interesting things instead

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Feeds LOL

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch At least yours are scheduled...

My standup this morning: I have absolutely no meeting so I'm going to finish these three things.

My day: Filled with impromptu meetings about other thing (for which they didn't even need be, but hey, free nose-picking time!) and I managed to barely finish 1 thing of the list :(

Magisch

6:10 PM

Last meeting was supposed to be partly about data protection, but I had to sit through the entirety of the owner's and management's weekly status meeting

Like just call me in when you're ready for the GDPR stuff don't force me to listen to 20 minutes of what was ironically privileged information I'm not even allowed to know from a GDPR standpoint

Tinkeringbell

Ugh. Mine was about getting code changes to production, again.

They don't want to listen or change, so I don't know what I was doing there except hearing that I don't have any responsibilities when it comes to getting code to production, which I already knew.

John Dvorak

In a hospital I was recently, you get an A4 form at the reception, then the receptionist goes on to pick up three or four phone calls, brew a coffee... while your form lies filled in on the reception desk. All the while your relatives need your consent and a verbal password to learn anything about your state.

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak Ah, good old purple crocodiles :P

Magisch

I love the SE dark mode btw

so soothing

Tinkeringbell

chat? or main, then: where did you get that?

John Dvorak

6:17 PM

Now you can literally be in dark about what the asker actually wanted to know

Magisch

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Q: Stack Overflow Dark Theme

This userscript is part of SOMU (SO-mod-userscripts) Stack Overflow Dark Mode Dark theme for Stack Overflow. Some elements have reduced opacity until focused/mouseover. Some colours are retained. Screenshots License MIT Download View source (Install) Userscripts require Ta...

script style

By samuel liew

latest update works on chat and main, on every SE site

very nicely

John Dvorak

I have a custom color scheme for chat. Indispensable.

Magisch

This is how chat looks for me

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Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Yeah, mine is similar :)

Magisch

6:20 PM

I have dark mode on everything

I use it on all my IDE's, I even messed around with RegEdit to get a semi dark mode in my SSMS 2008

Tinkeringbell

I had another plugin for dark chat, but since this one also works for main, I'm going to try this for a while :)

SmokeDetector

6:37 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially problematic ns configuration in answer, username similar to website in answer (54): New IT project documentation ✏️ by Thetips4you on pm.SE

bwDraco

7:32 PM

@Catija, thanks for reaching out to me. Your support means a lot to me.

(some personal drama)

Tinkeringbell

@bwDraco Whatever it is, all the best from me too. I hope things clear up for you soon.

bwDraco

in Root Access on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 hours ago, by bwDraco

To the community: Due to a personal crisis, I'll be exiled from home for an unknown period of time. Availability will be limited, but I'll try to keep in touch.

Catija reached out to me via email about this.

Tinkeringbell

That's kind 😀

bwDraco

Temporary living arrangements are being worked out and I'm reaching out to friends and relatives. It's an issue between Father and me; Mother will continue to provide support. I'd rather not discuss the rest in public.

Tinkeringbell

You don't have to :) Like I said, I hope things work out!

bwDraco

7:40 PM

Thank you very much for the kind words.

user302202

8:21 PM

@nader killing it with a description of @StackOverflow "there may not be stupid questions, but there are a lot of angry people" at #TechNott

Tweeted by JamieTanna on February 11, 2019 at 7:19 PM

user302202

Naturally, @nader account is now suspended...

user302202

Don't mess with Stack Overflow.

Tinkeringbell

Meh, I'm not sure that's a right causality ;)

John Dvorak

It works as a correlation though.

> StackExchange: if you don't have a Twitter account, it's much harder to get suspended, but you also don't get to make feature requests.

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak Not even, I think, unless we know for sure the account was suspended because of that talk. Otherwise, there's no correlation between the two?

John Dvorak

8:32 PM

correlation means that it tends to happen at the same time

Tinkeringbell

Yet we don't know that it happened at the same time. I can still type in @nader and tweet.

John Dvorak

It's more likely that he tweeted it because of the suspension or because of an encounter that also got him suspended, than that he got suspended just because of a tweet.

He holds the laptop like that on purpose, to make you cringe.

Tinkeringbell

:) I like that one :)

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Rob

Should have had a camel on standby.

Catija

9:09 PM

@bwDraco o/ Sorry to hear about your troubles. Always happy to offer support.

user302202

9:30 PM

A random reference from yesterday suddenly became topical,

user302202

yesterday, by Mrs. Robinson

At least according to the film Homeless (2015)

user302202

Partly filmed in an actual shelter with real shelter population.

user302202

10:28 PM

@Blue Coincidentally I just found twitter.com/StExBot - a Twitter bot tweeting HNQ using HNQ feed.

user302202

Is the "hot network questions" element on Stack Overflow a dark pattern? https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/123676

Tweeted by StExBot on February 11, 2019 at 10:11 PM

user302202

So meta.

user302202

It's pretty old: trims the title for 140 char length.

user302202

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A: StackExchange API returning 407: Account is not allowed to suggest edits

@AwesomePoodles is probably talking about me. I'm on mobile and can't share code right now, but the trick is to use the undocumented version 2.3 of the API. That has a new method /questions/<id>/suggested-edit/add and a similar one for answers. I figured it out by monitoring requests sent by the ...

user302202

More importantly... why is API v2.3 still undocumented?

user437611

10:47 PM

@Mrs.Robinson Heh, the irony. :)

user437611

Dark pattern is a new word for me though.

user302202

See also: SO new user signup and SO jobs.

rene

@Blue Facebook would fit as a synonym ...

user437611

11:23 PM

Absolutely. :P

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