It takes 4-5 days. So creating an a bunch of statistics once a year, that's a reasonable amount of time to accumulate data.

@Werner The SE API gives you 10k requests per day, either per IP, or per ap&user (i.e. per auth token)/day. Overall, a single user can have 1x 10k quota/IP + 5x 10k quotas per auth token + 300 (no API key)/IP per day (day is a window starting from when you first request after no requests for 24 hours). The intent is that each app have at most 10k requests/day.

Each rep history request can give you up to 100 events. How many requests are needed per user will depend on the user. For example, your rep on Meta would require 15 requests. Thus, how long it will take to get all users will depend on what the average number of requests you need per user. Even it it's 1 req/user, then it will take you 15 days, assuming you're using 10k requests per day and have 150k users.

As to how fast you can make requests, there's a hard rate-limit of 30 req/s. My experience with backoff described above is using 10 req/s (1/3 max). Assuming you got no backoffs (unlikely) you could burn through your 10k requests in as little as 5.6 minutes (assuming 30 req/s).

Realistically, no application is going to make 30 network requests a second. Reaching out to the network is a heavy task, and unless you employ serious multithreading and have a processor with lots of physical cores, hitting 30/s is hard.

@Makyen It's definitely an avenue to consider. Many users, across all networks, are infrequent/short-term and therefore contribute very little to the overall site reputation. We have ~7K users with 200+ reputation. That drops to ~200 users with 10K+ reputation.

Regardless, it's the only feasible way to access unearned reputation if I wish to report on such a statistic. It may still be an estimate, since it would exclude private events, but those are typically small (-1 and -2 reputation) compared to public events (+5, +10, +15, ...).

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@ArtOfCode That sounds something like a challenge. :-) However, I'd want to find something other than the SE API against which to test, as I find it quite inconvenient when SE shuts down my access.

Frankly, it didn't seem that difficult to at least approach that number (from the POV of initiating the request). I don't recall if I tested prior to implementing rate limits for initiating requests. However, I certainly wasn't checking what actually hit the wire, as opposed to what was just queued somewhere in the protocol stack.

@Makyen Aye, that's where you hit delays. You can call a method to start a request that often fairly easily - but (a) they queue up locally, depending on your bandwidth and network stack, and (b) once they start coming back and you have to process that, you slow down again

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My profile picture on other sites seems to have randomly changed to the profile picture I use on just one site (Crypto.SE). How do I revert this?

Actually, it's only the profile picture on chats.

as in the avatar in chat is the wrong one?

Yes. The chat avatar (except for on chat.meta.se for some reason).

chat.stackexchange.com/users/323957/forest

@ArtOfCode Do you see a blonde girl with a hat in that picture?

Because that shouldn't be the avatar (only on Crypto.SE).

@forest Change your parent site and see if it works

It isn't? It shows it as Security right now.

ok hold on

Oh that worked. That's freaking weird... It said it was set to Security.

So I changed it and set it back to Security, and now the avatar is correct.

Aye, your chat avatar is taken from your parent site (cached)

Why would it show my parent site is Security, but the avatar of Cryptography?

@ArtOfCode But the parent site was never set to Cryptography in the first place, so why would it grab it from there?

And actually, the first thing I checked was my parent site, but since it showed it set to Information Security, I didn't bother changing it.

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shrug gremlins

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So I found someone asking a question who linked to a copy of their credit and debit numbers encrypted with a crappy homebrew encryption algorithm.

I'm a little amazed that it wasn't a bluff.

Is the link something that should be flagged as PII? Should it be flagged even if the poster explicitly says that if anyone can break the code, the card info is theirs?

Are the card info theirs, or stolen?

Presumably theirs. I'll have to decrypt it first to see if the names match up.

@forest Yes, I'd have it redacted.

Posting PII may be against the ToS.

And probably a violation of the cardholder agreement.

Even if it's a link to the site they posted it on (just making sure)?

@forest Probably so

k

@forest I'd recommend a custom flag with the information here

then let the mods work out what to do

its probably less than obvious/common so custom flagging means they get the info

Yeah I will I just want to see if I can break the code first.

make a copy then responsible disclosure?

The PII is a screenshot. :(

Oh wait I can just save the image. I'm dumb.

ow

@JourneymanGeek The worst part is that, even if I couldn't find a cryptographic weakness, the key space is way too small. I only have to try up to 10^9 keys.

Biggest problem is that the description of the algorithm is so vague that I'm trying to wrap my head around it well enough to implement it in C.

Wait nvm, I just realized the card info is his form of a bug bounty.

So it's not PII after all, just a very valuable bounty.

On an unrelated note, why do community ads need to have a score of +6 to show? Why not just show, say, the top few answers? Small sites may have a harder time of reaching +6 than large sites where even a bad ad can get that score.

I think its just howits always worked

weird

wried

wired

Its worth remembering, at least for sanity's sake that a lot of early decisions were pretty arbitrary ;p

You mean, they weren't designed by committee?

how awful

I was hoping they'd be designed as a peer-reviewed and government-overseen process, documented by lawyers and videotaped.

hah.

@rene might be now

its all organised

Also need approval by UN committees

we need to redefine 6 to 8 weeks in that case ...

Magic editor for the win: i.sstatic.net/zs2Jh.png

I haven't reached that meta post...

I gave it an edit, to the best of my knowledge while trying to keep the intent and the awkward english here and there

@rene I considered the same, manually but...

did he just admit to socking?

yeah

I'm not sure what he evaded though ._.

oh well

at this point, not my problem ;p

Maybe if one of the SO mods pass by they might reveal something (or annotate) ...

oh I'll definately let one know

someone's coming...

wrong person though

> users are not talent and they have tease me

I'm not talent? :o

@forest eh, he's probably non native

I have a talent, it's forest

or highly bilingual

It's just... why is he complaining that people edit his question?

That's a good thing if he can't be understood.

@forest I think his issue is the lack of answers

but there's probably broader context there

maybe a typo of 'latent'...

Well what does he expect from a site whose users are not even talent?

I understand that not all languages have punctuation to mark the end of a sentence. That was at least one of the problems when they translated to English.

Tamil has the same punctuation as english....

quirk of history...

so I can't really give an educated opinion there

I like Japanese punctuation. Much easier to spot full stops than English's tiny dot.

well, it is all gone now. Let's return to our regular show

so the funny thing is Tamil literally has a unique script, completely distinct from even other southern languages

(some dude designed it for easier printing, its different from 'old' tamil)

@rene ya, left it up so he knows its there

not really keen on letting him getting downvoted to last week

Ugh, turns out the guy who encrypted his CC has a description of the cipher that doesn't specify if he uses zero or one indexes (or is it indices?).

Nor does he specify if a key composed of digits is handled as ASCII or an integer.

?

errrrrrr

idk

tamil is apparently not one of those anyway ;p

and I think there's the deeper issue with non latin languages

oh :D

There needs to be a Klingon.SE.

@forest more or less SE has little ability to manage or troubleshoot issues with those

With the Klingon language? :o

conlang.stackexchange.com/search?q=klingon

with non english languages

> Are you a human being? We apologize for the confusion, but we can't quite tell if you're a person or a script. Please don't take this personally. Bots and scripts can be remarkably lifelike these days!

With the initial run of non english SOs they hired CMs who could handle those languages, but that's no longer really a thing

@Bookends That page is machine-phobic.

Machines need rights too!

Machines are too demanding

Machines run the world.

And the world runs the machines

Only because of systematic oppression of machine rights!

So, the world runs the world

The word "robot" comes from the slavic "robota", which means slave.

DO YOU HEAR THE MACHINES SING! SINGING THE SONG OF GRINDY GEAAAARSSSSS

beep boop

grindy gears? Do you know how big of an issue it is? Have you ever had your joints grind against each other?

> Funniest thing is that the system shows I've voted on your links 4 years ago...

Déjà vu

Quite the opposite - called Jamais vu

@JohnDvorak not again?

"shit weasels" O.o Well, not gonna watch that movie.

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@rene probably, should be moved to ru.stackoverflow.com

@Suvitruf I don't see why. it is in english and doesn't look like something that isn't already answered or of high value. Let's not migrate crap, not even to the russian sites....

@rene author has russian name (: But yeh, probably, it will be closed on SOru too.

*robotization

lmao

@Mrs.Robinson The implication is true. SO has failed to be welcoming to them because it still hasn't been able to teach them why we don't want 450k more "thank you"s in posts and 50k fewer accepted answers

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ but the tweet is about comments, and not answers.

@Suvitruf Newer users will probably be less likely to accept answers if we allowed them to add a "thank you" in a comment and be done with it

[citation needed], but I'm not willing to experiment.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ hm, so?

The main goal of SE sites is to aggregate knowledge.

So . . . that. I just explained what I meant by that chat message

It doesn't matter if the answer was accepted or not.

In general, even reputation doesn't matter. It's just a bonus.

@Suvitruf When a functionality exists, it's counterproductive to enable measures that would decrease its use

Especially the fact that accepts were intended to convey the strong message of at least one person finding said answer useful.

Like a QC stamp

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ we had a lot of discussions about it on SOru. Especially about regex auto removing such messages by CM.

So accepts do matter, not as much as the primary goal, sure, but still.

If users make thanks in comments instead of accepting the answer, system should make him understand that it would be nice to accept it.

When your goal is understanding Feynmann's lectures, it's not that the pen you will use to take notes 'doesn't matter'. Of course, you could say such a thing in the sense that you can simply replace a broken pen.

Not by forbidding thanks in comments.

Well, we got side tracked. Fewer accepts would be a minor side effect of allowing "good anser, much wow" comments.

The main reason is I don't give a damn about PeakyBlinders99 thinking the post was informative when there's already a score besides the post when I most need to read it.

If the fifth answer to a real, legitimate question you had on SO had all the extra clutter as the previous four, there's a significant chance you won't feel like reading the sixth for your sixth legit question.

Basically, it's the conflicts of the two "personal help desk" versus "big library" mindsets, again

Ideally, one thread shouldn't be tailored to the asker's needs or feelings any more than they already do it by the way they're wording their question in the first place. One could see it as robotization or whatever, but by the same logic any reference material would be too robotic because it aims to be applicable to more than just one individual

BBL

The last seven questions have an average score of -6.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ (｡•́︿•̀｡)

Googling with Japanese letters is worse, that's why I put quotation mark on every keywords...

How many users were really contributing?

Even MSE has so many users... thanks to those spammers

Yeah, I was thinking there are 10k packers in Hyderabad and 10k in Delhi, and 20k on SO.

@Catija congrats to you (and all over Stack Overflow team) for 10 million users :)

@MEEisJohannGambolputty... :) If only fewer of them were spammers.

@Catija Still, 5 million is also a good number... ;)

:/

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog Reading that question on a mobile device is awful. It is so long. :(

Ah, yes

Gradle errors

The kind of stacktrace that prints more of the stack than you need to know and eats space if someone formats it wrong xd

Haha Sonic is like the trivia section in a Wikipedia article

Or that 23rd nested bullet point in a rulebook

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Um...that rule is clearly documented?

He is making a joke/being sarcastic (somewhere between those two extremes)

@rene I know. I like to make jokes on people who do that by pretending not to get it.

awesome

ლ(ಠ_ಠ ლ)

The joke is on your joke that you don't get that it's a joke

@Bookends The total number of users in the database, using a simple query, is 9969791, that's 30,209 less than 10M; and it goes without saying that not everyone is active. If you find a better query post a link.

The latest ID is around 11006900, so... over 1 million users nuked? (congrats?)

oh, also account merging...