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1:00 PM
Thanks to Shadow Wizard and rene for your kind words!
hmmm... you should be panic if you don't know how to panic!
@Tinkeringbell If you haven't used blaze before, you'll need to manually set the auto-refresh. Otherwise you'll have to manually refresh by clicking the button
@PrincessLuna Yep, found that too! I'm getting good at this :) Thank you! :D
Great \o/ and no problem ^^
blazing through the tutorial of using Blaze...
1:03 PM
And it's blazingly fast!! Click here to buy your free manual today!! :p
@andmyself You're a natural
@PrincessLuna I don't care; buy my towel anyway :P
@Mithrandir Not unless you buy my roll first
Flags Tavern as spam
People are never gonna give that up, are they.
1:05 PM
Flags spam as Tavern
Flags me as spam
@Mithrandir now knit this one!
STOP spamming flags!
That's a bit beyond my knitting abilities, I'm afraid
1:06 PM
(There's actually flags?)
Flags stop as spam
STOP flagging spa... eh, uh... never mind...
@PrincessLuna nope
@PrincessLuna Soorry! (not sorry). I'll use italics next time too ;)
1:09 PM
@Tinkeringbell Nah, don't worry 'bout it ^^ I'm just terrible at telling apart jokes from real messages some times 😅
@Princess here, take a timeout!
(that's the name of that waffle ^)
Have a break, have a Kit-Kat.
Exactly! lol
flagging our local brand as plagiarism
@ShadowWizard No clue
@ShadowWizard you're making me hungry
1:11 PM
That android version was hard to digest
@PrincessLuna now you have a clue! :D
I forgot it's RTL, but then, I can't read it...
@ShadowWizard meh
Besides, I actually have some chocolate IRL x3
@andmyself wish they sold half the Kit Kat flavors Japan has here too.
Pesek Zman (Hebrew: פסק זמן‎, "Time Out") is an Israeli brand of chocolate snacks, manufactured by Strauss Group's Strauss Israel company under its Elite confectionery brand. == Snack's appearance == The original bar was flat and measured about 20 cm length, 4 cm width and 1 cm thick. The snack consists of two layers: a waffle and a chocolate coat. The waffle contains chocolate cream. In 2008, the chocolate cream was replaced by hazelnut cream. The snack was produced and presented for the first time in 1982. Since then, many different versions of the snack were created. == The original snack... ==
1:12 PM
@PrincessLuna envious
Can't believe there's wikipedia page about it, but turns out there is. :P
@Mithrandir I have Lindt
You'd be surprised what there are wikipedia pages for XD
Freia is a Norwegian chocolate sweets manufacturing company. The company is famous for Freia Melkesjokolade and Kvikk Lunsj, as well as for other candy and dessert products. == History == The company was founded in 1889, but real success was seen only in 1892, when Johan Throne Holst (1868–1946) took over management. Holst realized that there was a potential market for edible milk chocolate, in addition to the dark chocolate and other minor products Freia were producing at the time. Holst built up Freia to be Norway's leading chocolate manufacturer. By the turn of the century, Freia was ...
The Tavern has been particularly diabetes inducing
Back to the book
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ here you go!
Lettuce (Lactuca sativa) is an annual plant of the daisy family, Asteraceae. It is most often grown as a leaf vegetable, but sometimes for its stem and seeds. Lettuce is most often used for salads, although it is also seen in other kinds of food, such as soups, sandwiches and wraps; it can also be grilled. One variety, the woju (莴苣), or asparagus lettuce (celtuce), is grown for its stems, which are eaten either raw or cooked. In addition to its main use as a leafy green, it has also gathered religious and medicinal significance over centuries of human consumption. Europe and North Americ...
1:18 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I thought it induced alcohol-related problems. :p
Alcohol! I've promised myself a bottle of jack daniels for the holidays :D
hic You mean y-hic-ou're not drunk yet? hic
One more day! One day more!
@Tinkeringbell it's not that jack is bad... but there are better whiskies for cheaper
@Tinkeringbell Do you hear the people sing?
1:24 PM
@Mgetz This is easily available and on sale next week though :P
No, because this is text-based communication.
@Mithrandir I have spotify? :P
Spotify <3
@Tinkeringbell without knowing about where you are in the world I can't make a counter recommendation.
@Mgetz Go hunt. That information is freely available everywhere :P
1:26 PM
But honestly to me... Jack is just paying for a name when cheaper canadian and american blended whiskies are just as good
@Tinkeringbell don't care to?
@Mgetz Then you'll never know! :P
@Mgetz Netherlands
Ah then yeah most of the good cheap stuff won't have made its way over there sadily
if you're ever in the US there are a lot of smaller whiskies that are really good and much cheaper
I'll keep it in mind for if I ever go crazy enough to travel that far :)
@ShadowWizard That's what I was thinking of, yes.
1:31 PM
@Tinkeringbell :D
Oh no... Steam Sales...
Google Tag Manager meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320536/… (14 hours (!) old) @Bart @rene
^ Not my fault. You should've just posted that in here sooner :P
I am too lazy to check /Questions tab often. ;)
With -11 it was off the radar... :(
@ShadowWizard blame the downvoters
1:34 PM
Welcome them instead...
@ShadowWizard Welcome to Tavern on the Meta! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
@ShadowWizard It's Tim Post's fault.
@ShadowWizard If it's downvoted and unanswered, it'll roomba
1:36 PM
@SmokeDetector Sure is! :D
@PrincessLuna well, the mission of the Tavern is to delete those much faster. ;)
Nah, Tavern is supposed to be fun :P Having one or two slip and roomba'd isn't that bad ;)
Does it matter? There's probably better stuff to use delete votes on than nuking roomba-scheduled posts
@PrincessLuna Not for mods. And there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of deletable stuff in the queues either :)
@Tinkeringbell well, mods are an exception. They don't have limited votes (right? xd)
@PrincessLuna I'm sure that if I start deleting everything... someone will limit it :P
1:41 PM
@Tinkeringbell it feels like a failure! ;)
But votes aren't limited in the same way
As in you aren't restricted to i.e. 20 delete votes and 50 close votes per day
@PrincessLuna actually... not really. MSE isn't SO, not so much questions.
Nope, I can technically just delete EVERYTHING! maniacal laugh
@PrincessLuna nope
Unlimited edits and reviews too
you can get review banned.
1:42 PM
@ShadowWizard There's still other stuff though, right?
and unban yourself.
you can even... err... suspend and unsuspend yourself...
In theory a mod can delete all questions on a site but it will just lead to them not being mod anymore, and can be undone by Shog's toolbox of scripts, for sure. ;)
(e.g. the script he used to restore tags with unbumping Community edits)
1:43 PM
@ShadowWizard something similar has happened before
@JourneymanGeek mod rage quit?
CM rage quit???
So here's an essential thing
big mess happened
1:44 PM
mod closing too many questions?
I usually sanity check anything that seems potentially dangerous that I do
Big wow. Such mess.
like tag merging
@ShadowWizard mod trying to clean up a tag.
@andmyself tag merging is a pain
@JourneymanGeek oh
1:45 PM
a pain that apple kinda made worse.
@ShadowWizard in a sense
Apple, breaking the Internet with Microsoft since 2000
@ShadowWizard we merged OS X and macos. and had to merge it the other way
1:46 PM
@PrincessLuna Google, the new IE6, literally breaking their websites in other browsers
@Mgetz -1 Google isn't even a browser. ;)
sure it is
it's just called Chrome
@ShadowWizard Chrome is google's browser, try using google search without chrome
you'll get unending ads for it
1:48 PM
@Mgetz What?
Like Google showing an outdated version of Google on FF mobile xd
Ended up getting a plugin that sends the Chrome UA when I use Google
(but I mainly use DDG)
@Mgetz did't the last IE6 dev escape the battlefield some yeas ago and drop a bomb over all that remained?
Good thing Google released www.duck.com from their grasp
@Derpy no idea
people forget that IE6 was novel when it came out, it just waaaay overstayed it's welcome
Ah, wait, I was MisterRemembering. It wasn't IE6. The game was about XP.
^see above github link for info.
@Derpy looks like you have the best spell checker...
1:53 PM
@Mgetz I just get a "Google recommends using Chrome. Try it?" popup, dismissible.
@andmyself oh, this one was just for @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ personal annoyance
Anyway, the above screen is taken from the actual game I was referencing.
Some little joke Microsoft published when ending XP support.
@ShadowWizard it is, but it shows up every single time. They also seemly deliberately broke GPU acceleration on Edge and Firefox on youtube.
@andmyself not that it really matters
it still redirects to duckduckgo.com
btw, just told a coworker here that SE was giving out cheese cutting boards as prizes for a contest. Didn't believe me.
2:00 PM
2:15 PM
@Derpy did you convince them by now?
@ShadowWizard had to believe me when they saw the swag announcement post.
11 votes to good answer badge.
oh, another one, another ignore.
2:31 PM
@Derpy Yep, good call ;)
2:43 PM
user image
@ShadowWizard here you are.
@Derpy hehe, awesome!
Random guess: file upload?
@PrincessLuna fixed manually.
ok, time to do it....
2:59 PM
@PrincessLuna can't upload just any image
Though maybe @Derpy did build some PNG to Knitting converter... hmm...
psst... hey, come closer... let me tell you a secret ... all that the editor checks is the dimensions of the uploaded image 🤫 — balpha ♦ Dec 12 at 21:55
btw, are you by any chance around @balpha?
hunt down the troll, would you?
see the user list.
3:05 PM
Maybe put a temporary "don't let 1 rep users even join chat" code in place?
nobody is going to touch chat code ...
The only one who can is balpha. ;)
@balpha there is someone that has been keeping creating offensive-named users in the few hours and entering and exiting the room in order to have the name displayed.
@Derpy you can switch to mobile theme for now.
It doesn't show users who enter or leave.
@ShadowWizard oh, to be fair, I have my good share of userscript to fix that too, but that was not the point.
3:07 PM
Ignore doesn't help since it's per-user.
@balpha someone keeps creating new accounts, with offensive usernames. They then drop in/out of chat repeatedly, causing everyone on a pc to continuously see that name moving in the sidebar.
Help us, balpha-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope!
People apparently want you to fix it :P
@Tinkeringbell Also happens on SO, possibly SE as well
Mods on MSE are at least destroying everything :)
3:10 PM
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@PrincessLuna Raise a mod-flag on a message in the room they're in and explain the situation.
If there's no mod on it there.
I did
There is a mod, but they're AFK
@PrincessLuna good princess :P
The flag's been up for 10 minutes now
But they're not leaving and re-joining from what I can tell, probably because they're too busy with MSE
Well... @YvetteColomb hey, if you're around, please take a look on SO chat. :)
3:13 PM
Nvm, Jon Clements just joined the room
@PrincessLuna Ah. Chris just said there weren't any flags! :P
Well, that fixes that then :)
4:03 PM
@andmyself why is a command
/cc @ShadowWizard
@Derpy I found the chicken
Does this mean what I think it does?
Nope xd
Chicken tweets
Woo! 10k! \o/
@PrincessLuna pretty sure he knows... lol :D
4:09 PM
Congrats @Mithrandir! ^^
@ShadowWizard oh well
@Mithrandir congrats!
Thanks! ^.^
4:22 PM
@Mithrandir check yesterday calendar item on my swag submission. Also explains why balpha tweeted that.
9 messages moved to Chimney
So balpha is following @Derpy. Nice. :D
I take it as "there is a chicken, go find it!" :P
@ShadowWizard could be a coincidence. Could.
@ShadowWizard there is no chicken, trust me on this one.
With friends like that...
4:39 PM
something in the tone remind of Evan, but he's not even suspended, is he?
nope. So no idea who it might be. meh
Luckily not much questions to protect...
@ShadowWizard I don't even think Evan has a vengeance against you. Looks like the continuation of previous crusade troll though...
@andmyself yeah there was one years ago.... oh well. This one will get bored at some point too.
oh. wait. after checking something, looks like it's our infamous friend... okay... nothing to feed here...
So slack has apparently been forced by US regulations to shutter every iranian user's account and/or teams
Will the same happen to SE?
No news yet, so...
4:54 PM
@Magisch wtf, this sounds like a completely retarded regulation
Slack claims that in order to comply with regulations, they cannot allow users from sanctioned countries to maintain accounts
I wonder if this interpretation will change or propagate throughout the tech space
applying export control laws to software or SaaS sounds so stupid that it can only be something coming from lawmakers ;)
Always a possibility that Slack is just incompetent
Not that anything else they do would indicate this
like, uh, making a web app that barely works on the web
I used slack last in uni and it worked out like a strictly inferior version of whatsapp
"hey guys, legal sez we gotta block folks from embargoed countries from using our paid services - that means we gotta delete everyone who has ever appeared from an .ir IP, right?"
4:58 PM
That seems to be what they're doing
Of course, also entirely possible that the relevant US officials are incompetent
There is a case of an iranian PHD student living in canada, and having only ever used slack from canada aside from a small 6 week period, and his account, team and data got wiped
Which I guess raises the philosophical question: when everyone involved in a situation has a past history of rank incompetence, how do you know who to blame?
Then again there was that incident where the US arrested the CEO of Huawei in canada due to noncompliance with US sanctions
CFO, wasn't it?
also, it was the Canadians who did the arrest; US is trying to extradite
4:59 PM
> Earlier this month, Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada on suspicion of violating US sanctions on Iran, triggering an ongoing international incident.
I wonder what the justification is, does the US believe that US sanctions apply to non-american companies?
Well, if @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ's account gets deleted we'll just blame Shog
To be fair, there is only a fine line difference between E & F
@Magisch huawei trades in the USA
@Shog9 They're probably too busy building the wall xd
different department, AFAIK
5:02 PM
wonder if Shog9 ever realized to be part of my swag submission...
5:19 PM
Q: Are there any plans to improve the Answer editor?

shiny-metalThe rumors say that you've made a lot of changes to the backend so that you can now easier implement features that has been requested for a long time... I don't know whether this feature is one of them but are there any plans to improve the Answer editor so that it makes use of the huge monitors...

What's this guy's deal?
Fun stuff .-.
@David just disengage if you haven't already
So much precious 14-yo time that can be spent on better things
Even browsing Instagram is a better use of your time
That reminds me, @Sha what's the magic sentence? BACK TO THE BOOK
@Mith do you have experience with Audiobooks? I wanna listen to some Audiobooks while exercising and I dunno which writer would make a good choice
Or which books
Or which reader.
Or which headphones.
Hmm, Carroll . . .
5:28 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ nope, sorry - I hear Audible is good thought
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ my Instagram is filled with people doing bike tricks and almost nothing else
Audible.com? Free trial and two books to download. Meh
@Mithrandir My Instagram is filled with . . . I don't have an Instagram account
So you both need to broaden your horizons?
@Alex No, because the only reason I created an Instagram account is so that I could see more people doing bike tricks :P
And to give me inspiration for my own bike tricking.
So what tricks can you do?
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ good idea, I will go do that now
5:40 PM
I ride up stairs, ride balancing beams, wheelies, endos, hopping, jumping...
@Mithrandir I'll pretend that I've understood one word in that post.
Something about stairs winning in Bike vs. Stairs, I think.
So I'll follow people like Danny MacAskill, Fabio Wibmer, Sam Pilgrim, Rachel Atherton...
@Alex Yeah, basically. I have since decided that that particular staircase is not worth it and have cut it out of my route. It has been replaced by a different set.
is there no handicap ramp
though, that's probably illegal
5:45 PM
There are ramps, but the stairs are more fun.
5:59 PM
Oh, I remember that...
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX is a BMX video game endorsed by Mat Hoffman and published by Activision under the Activision O2 brand (this would be the first game to launch under it), it is similar to the Tony Hawk's series and competed directly with Acclaim Entertainment's Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX. Despite a planned release in fall of 2000, the game was released on May 15, 2001 for the PlayStation and Game Boy Color. Ports were made for the Dreamcast, Microsoft Windows and Game Boy Advance. A sequel was released the following year. == Development == Following the success of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater...
6:16 PM
This one charity SO sponsors sounds like a good idea
Where they make basically a uni tier 4 year education free, and graduates only return 12% of their salary for 3 years if they end up making over 60k$ a year
seems like something the government could start doing
6:32 PM
So, just always stick under 60k and you never have to pay anything back. Sounds like a good deal :)
idk if you would handicap your own earnings to avoid paying a % on everything over
If I get an extra 1000$, even if I have to pay 12%, I still have an extra 880$
@Magisch Well... If you get an extra 1000, so you're at 61.000... and you lose 12 percent of that...
You're losing out on roughly 7200
dont think that's how it works
I hope not :P
7:20 PM
Haha that'd be fun
Each of us (children and grandchildren) got quite a large sum of money from our grandparents one year, for reasons like this: If they didn't gift it, they would have had to pay more in taxes :/
7:41 PM
That is so odd.
I just turned my touchpad off and on again and now it works. O_O
Plug and pray
Thank $deity, no more accessibility reports!
And if I switch the right and left I can left click with the right but the left button doesn't work. This all doesn't explain why plugging in an external mouse didn't work, though.
@Tinkeringbell see that's where you're wrong
I've gotten used to navigating without the mouse
I've got at least one more in the queue :P
And then there are other types of accessibility to consider
I'll refrain from making bad jokes here
@rene Go rain on Den
7:51 PM
@rene But what's a Tavern without bad jokes?
True, but I didn't want to bring you in a position where you have to find that suspend user button on my profile.
@rene Don't worry. That's in the same place for everyone. Helps to have muscle memory :P
Yes, I rather not be a training target for those muscles either ...
Don't worry. I'm already trained :P
Anyway... in the bad jokes category: i.imgur.com/hTarGoD.jpg and i.imgur.com/SnaQyRC.jpg might amuse you :)
1 hour later…
8:56 PM
I have been spending way too much time on this knitting thing
I'm almost past balpha :D
I'm off until christmas, then I work on the 25th, 26th and 27th
What kind of madness is that?
@Tinkeringbell I've posted 4 different answers to it :P
@Magisch that seems odd
@Tinkeringbell Sysadmin life
Me and the other sysadmin are in around christmas when nobody else is to migrate a big server that can't be done on prod
9:01 PM
sounds like fun
extra bonus because the building isn't heated due to nobody being in at that time
so 10c office is lit :D
Would someone mind testing something for me? Head to ged.com/practice-test/en/science/start.html, skip to question 4, and try to type the word "involves".
or... the questions are randomized, so the one about a parasitic fungus
@Mithrandir done
it worked?
9:08 PM
What if you type Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, a type of parasitic fungus, has a complex life cycle, involving
And everything worked? The "v"s didn't refuse to type?
Curiouser and curiouser. Thanks. What OS/Browser, BTW?
@Mithrandir i.sstatic.net/2cVAu.png and on Chrome/Win10
9:12 PM
So it works on Chome/Win10 and Firefox/Ubuntu16.04, but not on Chrome/Ubuntu16.04
9:24 PM
So this is the science GED?
Text comprehension and mild math
it's a "practice test"
my textbook for this test has much more information
i don't know why their online test is so... lousy in comparison
it devoted several pages to like meiosis vs mitosis
9:40 PM
think it's worth adding a "javascript only" option for this console which would execute the script in a webworker, absent the html/css/dom/etc?
Doesn't sound too easy to make

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