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1:08 AM
Just to say. The waffles trigger is going to be a pain on most sites ._.
1:22 AM
@JourneymanGeek The trigger they have is wrong...
@Catija .... oh
total, not on a post? ;p
it works, but it's not the intention.
I think that's the definition of "its going to be a pain" ;p
Speaking of pain...
I think I need to retire my first ever SE swag T shirt ._.
(Its ok, I have a newer equivilent or two, though those first run T shirts were sweet)
They've switched companies over the years, though if you're getting say SU swag - the white ones for older sites might be the heavier old gildans.
the newer ones are a little lighter
(god. I sound like a swag snob ;p)
1:44 AM
@JourneymanGeek Awwww
@Catija I blame being in VFX a while
while it isn't free, the crew T shirts and hoodies are sweet
Some people like thick, but some of the thinner shirts are really soft.
oh, the stuff that Tested is pushing out through cotton bureau's both
(actually they're currently my platonic Ideal T shirts ;p)
I personally prefer a little heft in my T shirts
(amusingly my oldest t shirt's 15 years old, super heavy, and probably irreplacable...)
I have a Grumpy Gus. :(
2:04 AM
Morning with
GOOD MORNING @andmyself
2:24 AM
I need to borrow a USB OTG adapter from dad ._.
2:49 AM
which is too wide for a raspberry pi W
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (52): Could Nietzsche read English and French? by The Nietzsche Channel on philosophy.SE
3:12 AM
@JourneymanGeek I didn't realize you could power a toaster off of usb.
sure you can
Seems like it'd take a while.
(why a toaster?)
OTG = "Oven Toaster Griller"
on the go ;p
its for plugging in full sized USB things into 'phone' type devices with the older plugs
3:14 AM
I learned OTG on SA. :P I'd never heard of it until I was participating there.
that said....
I'm not sure if its I who needs to remember not everyone is computer geeky, or you who needs to remember many people here are computer geeky ;p
Can't even tell a joke without being accused of being not geeky enough.
It needed explaining ._.
3:17 AM
I thought I'd picked the correct audience.
Oven Toaster Griller On The Go?
that's a cool idea...
3:32 AM
4:08 AM
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5:35 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer (161): weighted average of interest rate by jasmine watson on math.SE
5:52 AM
6:12 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer (112): How to create a new POS altcoin? by Developcoins on bitcoin.SE
Aftermorning? It's not even light outside!
6:54 AM
7:16 AM
@andmyself thanks! :D
@Tinkeringbell sure it is!
I need to migrate south. Ah well, shortest day is Friday, after that it'll get better ;)
7:42 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer (86): Is ground school required to get a Private Pilots License? by Unknown on aviation.SE
8:03 AM
@Tinkeringbell Journey's internal clock is messed up. I wouldn't trust him to recognize "before" and "after" either
You're lucky he wasn't having lunch
...looks like someone is tired of my reports...
@Mithrandir or just downvoting for hats.
(noticed a few too :/)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body (100): The shoot and entertainment lawyer can thence unneeded by Sylvia John on android.SE
2 days ago, by M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
8:08 AM
Downvoting for hats is always better than upvoting for hats, of course :P
Well, I have to admit, after seeing the first 2, I skipped the rest of keyboard shortcut MSE posts :/
(that said, I didn't downvote because I didn't even open it)
@Mithrandir huh? Downvote(s)?
@rene I was thinking a bit more south :)
it went south? you went south?
@ShadowWizard at least three of them have gotten a downvote, but this is the only one to reach a negative score
8:11 AM
@Tinkeringbell Antarctica
@Mithrandir Assume best intentions! They, um, want the impaired people to man up? Maybe play fun puzzles throughout their time on SE
Or... they got introduced to keyboard shortcut on SE and tried downvote shortcut key...
Oh hey what does this one do? Nukes andmyself
@Mithrandir serial downvotes? :/
Q: Add a confirmation dialog before suspending people on chat

MithrandirAt the moment, suspending folks in chat is pretty easy: You press a button, and they can't chat for an hour. The problem is, this button doesn't have any sort of confirmation. It just... goes ahead and suspends them. This doesn't make sense; the "refresh profile" button, right next to it, does h...

@ShadowWizard no, not at the same time - just three of them have received downvotes
8:21 AM
Just the two three of us...
8:46 AM
@DanBron "tactical downvote is likely to not be reversed"??? The whole point of tactical downvote is to push other answers down without losing any reputation. One have to remove downvotes to get full benefit. — Alexei Levenkov 2 days ago
I need more of these tips
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer (80): Everything I write ends up being a rhyming poem, or lyrics maybe by Jed on writing.SE
@SmokeDetector well, it's a rap...
9:17 AM
@andmyself trap?
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Too much south
9:32 AM
I posted on code review about javascript :p
9:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Chennai to Pune - bus or train? by Travel Geek on travel.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Going from Chandigarh to Leh by Travel Geek on travel.SE
@Magisch Guaranteed HNQ! :P
/me fires up Twitter
@Bart If you do, follow 'ditiswaarommensenoptwitzitten' (@DIWMOTZ). They bring you the finest funny dutch tweets ;)
Hey, @Tink, want to help me do an experiment that shouldn't cause any issues?
Merge into before they get nuked
@Bart Do you expect a rant why on a site about Interpersonal skills there are programming questions in the sidebar?
10:01 AM
@Mithrandir If it involves mod abuse, sure! :P
Lovely ;D
Goes to look up how to merge tags
@rene absolutely. And in a language that isn't even a real programming language. /me ducks
@Mithrandir source tag should be forum?
10:02 AM
@Bart let result_of_insult = bart.delete()
(I'm going to try this without reading the manual first)
shouldn't mess anything up too badly...
@Tinkeringbell lol, that's an actual thing :D
Okay, I think it worked.
@Bart Of course it is!
10:03 AM
Yep, seems to have worked. Thanks!
Oops something bad happened
Oops, something bart happened!
Today's list of random perfect tweets is here: diwmotz.nl/random-tweets-229
I just killed productivity :P
@andmyself story of my life
@Tinkeringbell stop making me procrastinate even more!
10:05 AM
@Bart You know, there's 228 other lists like that. And then you haven't even seen the ones on specific topics. The ones on "Heel Holland Bakt" are good too. You don't even have to watch the show, just read the tweets after ;)
Now the reason for that experiment was so that I could answer a question from 2011 :P
In a couple of days I get to see Dutch TV again ... afterwards I always come to the conclusion I don't miss having a TV @Tinkeringbell :D
@Mithrandir Okay, what did I miss?
Nothing... I just answered a question.
@Bart We have Netflix for a reason too :P Although some shows are worth the giggles. And have you ever seen Hunted?
10:07 AM
And this had the added benefit of merging the tags, making it easier to get rid of them.
Only one tag to go through now, instead of two.
@Tinkeringbell heard about it. Never seen it.
@Bart It's quite good. It's really great at keeping up suspense, though there's a lot of repetition in it too. Or, as my dad likes to shout at the tv 'Dat weten we nou wel'
Sounds a bit like "Wanted" which was broadcast in the 90s I think
Tros Wanted was een tv-programma uit 1997 dat werd uitgezonden door de TROS op de publieke omroep. Het was de Nederlandse versie van het Engelse programma Wanted en werd gepresenteerd door Jack van Gelder en Mabel van Dungen. Een team van experts in de live-uitzending stond onder leiding van Klaas Wilting. Het was een multimedia spelshow waarbij de kijker betrokken was, maar het kan zelfs gezien worden als de eerste realityserie in Nederland. Voor het TROS-programma Wanted reisden drie teams van elk twee kandidaten 18 uur per dag, 7 dagen per week kriskras door Nederland. Ze werden op de hielen...
It's something like that, these people have to stay out of reach from a team too, for three weeks. They're getting small clues/tasks too
I really like to see how the tracking goes :)
And how stupid people can be. I mean really, calling home?!
They wouldn't expect that ...
10:14 AM
No one will figure that out...
Or leaving an entire plan on your PC :/
eh, unless its a fake plan
and the phone call is fake
Nope, neither were.
Honestly, least you can do is get rid of anything that uses/has a GPS or microphone, get rid of anything that gives them insight into your personality and helps them predict your actions, and erase your browser history! :P
no, that's what I'd do ;p
I wouldn't even gamble on leaving a fake trail. It's too obvious.
Too hard to make it believable
Besides, you need to be really good at erasing the real trail too to pull that off.
following @Tinker's fake trail
10:28 AM
Take a left, then a right
> Three lefts don't always make a right, but when they do, they make it clear who is following your car.
10:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Will Bitcoin price go up? by Prashant_p on stackapps.com
@JohnDvorak taken from Detectives for Dummies book?
@Tinkeringbell left left, right right
Straight ahead!
bumping into Konami
30 lives get!
11:09 AM
we're a still looking for a red parrot, right?
11:24 AM
How do I set a gravatar image? I'm not even sure which email address SE wants to use for it, SE knows of three email addresses associated with my account.
And I don't see the option to use a gravatar image in my profile.
you only have one primary email address (the one on "edit email settings") - probably that one is used for the gravatar
@ThiefMaster Ok, let me see.
Hmm, I think my Mathoverflow account might be using the gravatar for the MathOverflow email address though, even though the primary email address changed when I merged the accounts.
@b_jonas the email in your Mathoverflow profile?
Note that here you're using identicon, not gravatar.
oh never mind, my mistake ^
Ok, I uploaded an avatar for my SE email address, now I think I have to wait a few minutes for the option to appear in my profile?
11:39 AM
@b_jonas yup
I was hoping it would just show the option even if I haven't uploaded a gravatar, but no, it's trying to be too smart
weird, i'd expect it to be available regardless of whether you have an avatar uploaded to gravatar or not (is there even an api to check that?)
11:55 AM
Q: Check if some email address register at gravatar?

user147How can I just return false or true if email address is register at gravatar with php? Tnx

and yes, confirmed with my sock that when the email has no gravatar, SE doesn't show the option when editing image.
Also, @b_jonas you appear to use Identicon so waiting won't help.
You need to go edit the profile and choose Gravatar when it appears.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer, username similar to website in answer (53): Where can I find some shapefiles of global climate/climatic zones by GeoAfrikana on gis.SE
12:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer (78): What are the new security features in Windows 10? by Maha on security.SE
@ShadowWizard I'm trying, but the gravatar option just doesn't show up
how do I make the gravatar show up?
@b_jonas if you use your MO email (it's in your profile), it has no gravatar.
Here is how it looks like: (currently blank)
(generated using this)
1:01 PM
TIL 'file' is still a magic number
@Magisch I agree
I thought replacing 1 and 2 with 'folder' and 'file' would be reducing the magic-numberness a bit
What folder? What file? :P
I think you have to declare them variables to actually decrease magic-numberness? :)
@Tinkeringbell function sanitizeFileOrFolderName(object_name, mode)
where in similar functions in the past mode used to be 1 or 2 but in mine it's file or folder
1:08 PM
Strange language. I'm out :P
@Magisch Yep, so file and folder strings should be in constants ;)
Spammers are testing.
Yeah, what would they be testing?
1:15 PM
our patience?
No, response time.
red flag or just delete?
Or something similar
leave this first please!
@JourneymanGeek Huh?
1:16 PM
Ok, you can nuke it now
That's almost certainly a spam title.
I'd leave the account for now
@JourneymanGeek So plain delete :P Nothing to nuke if you nuke stuff :P
the user smells off
Eww, noted
Mods here smell users
I'm just back from my workout, I smell nice™
1:22 PM
this is what happens when 2/3 of the mods are dogs.
throws stick
watches stick sail off into the distance
Comes flying by, carrying said stick
Turning Journey off and on again
We do not play fetch.
1:29 PM
*throws @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ out of the Tavern for inappropriate behavior*
Ur hat iz inapproparrot
@JourneymanGeek What about fetch (the spam post)?
What spam post?
fetch latest commit spam
1:31 PM
(actually one of Ash's favourite games is to have his toy hidden, and go search)
Gone like your homework.
I don't have homework
either that or all my schoolwork is homework, depending on how you look at it
Yes he does
Well, whoever's homework I just shredded
1:33 PM
I saw him eat paper the other day
@JourneymanGeek It was the nuclear launch codes. There are no more copies.
woofs for world peace.
me asplode
No not really, the Russians have the upper hand now
shredded that too
That is a lie
Like your waffle
1:35 PM
@Mithrandir your dog ate it?
unless I have a dog that I don't know about, I doubt it
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): What are Pros and Cons for using PSD formats? by Hamza Mohammad on graphicdesign.SE
@Mithrandir I thought you own @Journeyman. ;)
1:42 PM
@SmokeDetector curry
That blank look is a "yeah but how the hell did you find out"
@andmyself on?
@SmokeDetector K
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ K
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ what blank look?
oh, @Mith's
And this one? O_O
ס_ס o_o ם_ם 0_0 O_O ._.
1:45 PM
🔵.🔵 (is this blue for anyone?)
oh well
1:49 PM
It's blue for me.
wait... it is! On mobile!
It's a cat-astrophe!
just not as memeable as post
@ShadowWizard no, that's my public email. I won't add a gravatar to that. I put the gravatar to a suffixed email
@b_jonas well, check it here. If it appears there, you should see the option to set Gravatar as your avatar on SE too.
1:52 PM
You can't... just upload a transparent image to gravatar and then use that?
@Mithrandir you can upload that transparent image to SE, what's the point?
It won't be transparent
Who said he wants it transparent?
@ShadowWizard It does appear there.
@Mithrandir That's what I'm trying.
@b_jonas so give it until tomorrow, maybe SE is really slow in checking those things. If tomorrow still no option for Gravatar, start a bug report.
1:53 PM
That's what this gravatar quest was for...
@ShadowWizard I want it transparent, especially for chat because Sci Fi chatrooms have a dark background, this chatroom has a bright background, and I have to use a single avatar for all of chat.
@Mithrandir oh, probably missed that.
It's less of a problem on the SE sites, where I can use a per-site avatar.
And I think all other SE sites have a bright background anyway.
This room in particular will take your avatar from your Meta.SE profile.
Sci Fi chat is the only exception, and the background is terrible, but tha's what other users see.
@Mithrandir Yes, this is in a separate chat domain.
1:55 PM
True. Sci Fi chat vs Lit chat then.
@ShadowWizard NO ONE OWNS ME!
All your avatar are belong to us.
(in fact we less bought a dog than kinda had one vaguely saunter in)
cats dont have owners either, they have servants
evolutionary jackpot "we have convinced this much more advanced and capable species to be our stewards and cater to our every need, physical or emotional, of their own free will"
2:05 PM
That's basically being a parent too :P
2:20 PM
...I totally misread that as "parrot"
For some parrots, that's true too ;)
Though I think most are rather free than caged ;)
3:19 PM
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One more for the road ;)
gnite all
Sleep well!
I'm almost home :D
3:40 PM
Don't sleep well yet then.
Oh, I thought it was okay and kinda cute for kids to fall asleep in the car when a parent is driving ;)
Ahhhh, you're not driving ... then it's okay :D
4:48 PM
Why is this question showing as deleted by nobody? The revision history doesn't show a deletion entry.
Is it an old Roomba deletion where it wasn't attributed to Community?
@AnneDaunted Should we also burn ?
Just ignore it
5:59 PM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I edited all questions more appropriately tagged (i. e. chat) and . But there remain others about ignoring questions (but not tags) or users outside of chat (e. g. their comments). I don't like as it looks pretty meta, but it doesn't look right without some tag - maybe other specific tags like ignored-questions or something?
@AnneDaunted I'm just going to burn it. Four of the remaining seven uses use other tags, and of the remaining three, two are closed as duplicates (so it doesn't matter), leaving one as a single-use tag.
That's fine with me
needs 2 more
2? One worked just fine.
you're cheating ...
... I didn't know we were married? :P
@Tinkeringbell You don't have to be married in order to cheat :P
6:22 PM
@Tinkeringbell Ha, that is a blessing I guess ;)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): Oauth Testing Oauth Testing Oauth Testing by m4ng0 on stackapps.com
so, people... cleanup sprees are great and all... but can we have some respect for the front page in doing them?
90% of the current front page is just there because it got bumped by edits
!!/hats i hate :(
@andmyself Winter Bash won't end for 14 days, 5 hours, 28 minutes, and 17 seconds. GO EARN SOME HATS!
@SmokeDetector also you're wrong
6:36 PM
@ArtOfCode :(
dammit Mith :P
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@AnneDaunted @SonictheInclusiveHedgehog See above. Could both of you please give tag editing a rest for at least a few hours, so the front page won't entirely consist of ancient questions?
7:01 PM
I'm already finished. is history.
You can chime in here then ...
7:28 PM
@Tinkeringbell Right.
@AnneDaunted why?
@Catija because this
@Catija It's back to the blogs now. Forums are so 2010
@rene To be fair, if a tag has 10 questions only, I don't see much point in wasting a whole meta thread and a whole lot of time on deciding to burninate it
You should mention that in the post
I'm too intimidated by the almighty Servy
Whoops did I say that out loud?
I'll let my anger subside a bit before I respond there
Oh you're more intimidating now
7:44 PM
I believe a meta discussion for a barely used tag with no clear purpose, where no reasonable person would disagree with the removal is just overkill and a waste of time.
but that leeway is only allowed and documented in the MSO burnination process
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Careful you don't accidentally call people unreasonable. Saying a tag has no clear purpose is fine; assuming that there are no reasonable disagreements is likely to start fights.
@ArtOfCode There are no reasonable disagreements to that sentence
technically Josh has a fair point and we have been doing it wrong
@rene However, more has been done with less hassle with a slight dent in rules
I don't want 7 consecutive questions on why a meta.SE tag with 5 questions should stay
@Mith's accessibility posts are enough, thank you very much :p
And oh man, alpha keto diet.
We need some more of those
7:50 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ only one more in the queue...
Then I have to start poking the mod tools for accessibility
Hip hip hooray
And then start in on High Contrast mode. ;)
Try inverted mouse and mobile keyboards
And weaker connections
@Mithrandir I was using High Contrast mode for some time because this. It worked fine at the time, though.
I believe said tag's removal is overkill and a waste of time.
7:54 PM
Also China, blocked JS or something, I forgot
that's good
What doesn't China block?
The other direction
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