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and myself

01:13

Morning...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@andmyself You remind me of a movie where a penguin wears a glove on its head

and myself

that's interesting :)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

The Wrong Trousers

The Wrong Trousers is a 1993 British stop-motion animated short film directed by Nick Park at Aardman Animations, featuring his characters Wallace and Gromit. It is the second film featuring the eccentric inventor Wallace (voiced by Peter Sallis) and his dog Gromit, following A Grand Day Out (1989). In the film, a sinister penguin uses Wallace and Gromit's robotic "Techno Trousers" to steal a diamond. The Wrong Trousers premiered in the United States on 17 December 1993, and the United Kingdom on 26 December 1993. It was commercially successful and won the 1993 Academy Award for Best Animated Short...

and myself

hmm? Wallace and Gromit? I feel like I have seen it somewhere else... though I believe I haven't watched it...

deja vu intensifies

That said...

Bicycles.SE is was looking for more candidates to proceed the election

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@andmyself Yep, there is one more candidate now

and myself

01:28

and Android.SE finally entered the voting phase (disclosure: I also run, so please don't get biased in voting)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@andmyself I'm one point short of the required rep to vote

Quill

03:24

morning

muru

04:25

Have SE responded to the HNQ debacle post anywhere? They removed the featured tag three weeks ago, and the continued silence since then makes me worried that they'll just implement something - instead of engaging in a "conversation" as they puti it - and leave it fait accompli for us.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@andmyself Thanks for the edit approval! Voted.

@muru Patience is a virtue. They must be discussing it internally.

ArtOfCode

@muru no they have not. There have been blog posts promised, but no material response yet beyond Jay's Twitter thread.

muru

I see. Thanks!

ArtOfCode

There has been a mite more communication with mods, including some material documentation in response, but not a huge amount more than is public.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ArtOfCode If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing up all night? :)

ArtOfCode

04:29

Failing at going to sleep

I'm good at that

Journeyman Geek

@muru well.. that wouldn't be different from a lot of what's happened lately :(

Quill

i think i missed a great deal over the weekend

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Quill Nothing much happens with the SE team on weekends

muru

Yep... I think it would be nice if they posted a summary of "here's what were thinking now" for course correction.

Rob

@Quill This particular situation happened a month ago, not this weekend :)

Quill

04:35

oh thats quite a few weekends

im catching up to speed now

and myself

MathOverflow with (at least a) fresh(-er) design

(and as always, negative score...)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

It might not even be compliant with the SE 2.0 agreement

If you really disagree with this, keep in mind that the agreement under which this site was migrated to SE 2.0 still allows you to leave the SE network at any time. — gparyani 44 secs ago

Journeyman Geek

05:06

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog not sure that helps in any way

Rob

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog That's probably between Stack Exchange and MathOverflow, I'd say.

and myself

~~A literal diamond on Area 51?~~ just a flavor in unicode rendering...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

05:21

His account doesn't show any active modships — damryfbfnetsi 14 secs ago

edit-approve-pls meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/61222

Tinkeringbell

05:52

Good morning!

Rob

o/

Shadow Wizard

07:02

woohoo! First gold badge on Coffee.SE! :D

Now I feel like a real coffee master!

Tinkeringbell

Nice! Congratulations :D

Shadow Wizard

@ShadowWizard found it! It was hiding in the states.

@Tinkeringbell thanks! :D

Magisch

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You can assume that they've been talking with the mods, though

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Magisch The agreement is a legal contract between Joel Spolsky and Anton Geraschenko, creator of MathOverflow

Even if they've gained consent from the mods, they're liable to being sued by Anton in case they breach it

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog OP also left a rude comment on the answer, flagged and was insta nuked.

@muru trivial: the list will be empty. ;)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

07:10

@ShadowWizard Flagged for locking

Not the first time they've vandalized their post.

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog nah that does not justify locking. Typical case of a frustrated user, but they doesn't appear to insist on adding the crap back in.

Also, the comment was on the answer, locking the question won't help.

IMO if OP leaves another rude comment or adding rude content via edit, suspension is due.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog eh. You're just stirring shit for no reason. It's nothing to do with you. Drop it please

and myself

suggest DMCA takedown to delete the copyrighted question...

Magisch

→ 5 messages moved to Chimney | Daily SmokeDetector Housekeeping Cleanup

Shadow Wizard

all clean

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

07:57

cv-pls duplicate: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318555/… (@Shadow)

Tinkeringbell

08:09

@ShadowWizard As you're now a coffee master, I'm tasking you with keeping me awake today :D

Shadow Wizard

!!/coffee Tinker

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Mocha for @Tink

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Tinker

Shadow Wizard

Here you go! Double coffee for you. :D

Derpy

morning

Shadow Wizard

morning

Tinkeringbell

08:11

@ShadowWizard Let's hope that's enough ;)

Shadow of the Shadow's Shadow

morning

Mithrandir

"morning"

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir angussidney/droplet

Magisch

morning

Shadow Wizard

!!/morning

SmokeDetector

08:13

@ShadowWizard No such command 'morning'.

Mithrandir

!!/wut

Tinkeringbell

So... everyone is having morning and no one is having a good morning?

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell nobody said that! It's your pessimistic mind... ;)

I found what I looked for, happy now. :D

Mithrandir

@Tinkeringbell I'm sitting with a laptop, camera, external hard drive, two phones, and a microSD card adapter, and getting annoyed at all of them and I haven't even eaten breakfast yet

Shadow Wizard

08:17

if (sitePerformance.states) {
    var workingObject = sitePerformance.states["WORKING"];
    if (workingObject)
        sitePerformance.workingTime = workingObject.time || 0;
}

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard It's because that mind didn't get enough sleep last night :P

Shadow Wizard

That's the code to grab it! ^^ (as you see, the working time is inside the states ;))

Tinkeringbell

To grab what?

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell aww.... why is that? :/

@Mithrandir eat first, think later.

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell eh, I'm quarreling with jQuery and semanticui modals

so a so-so morning

Shadow Wizard

08:19

18 hours ago, by Shadow Wizard

Now I need to dig in code written by someone else to find how I can extract work duration of machines. Wish me luck!

@Magisch komsi komsa?

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Are there any public APIs that will help determine the legality of a location to get Beer-Wine-Spirits delivered? ✏️ by TomTerrific on alcohol.SE

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Half is because a co-worker will be on parental leave two days earlier than planned, so I had to finish crocheting her gift last night instead of having 2 more evenings to spend on it ;)

The other half was that I was just awake.

Shadow Wizard

Why not just buy her a gift card? :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Not half as much fun

Shadow Wizard

But... let you sleep... :D

Tinkeringbell

08:22

Nah, I would spend days fretting over what giftcard to buy and for how much money XD

Shadow Wizard

also, assume co-worker from team #1 or #2, right? :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Nope, team #3. But not the one that's dictating code ;)

She's a good person.

Magisch

I always find gift cards to be cumbersome

Tinkeringbell

Normal. Refreshingly normal :D

Magisch

most people prefer just some cash or an actual gift

Tinkeringbell

08:24

@Magisch That too. I'm more likely to give cash than a giftcard. Unless people specifically ask for those ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell huh. See? Not all is dark. :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Of course it is, I won't meet her again after today...

Shadow Wizard

Oh. Too bad!

Derpy

08:37

any news about the cheese?

Magisch

the competiion has been cheesed

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir breakfast might help

:p

Mithrandir

I got it after adding a second laptop to the mix.

Journeyman Geek

Also sounds like a fun day off

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

09:08

Still deciding which film to use for my aviation photography session tomorrow

Magisch

It's a lurking JNat

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Linked punctuation in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (57): How to search for articles from a specific journal in Google Scholar when the journal name is a subset of other journal names (e.g., Science)? by Markus Rule on academia.SE

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Start talking about food. I've never seen a CM that manages to keep lurking if you start talking about food.

and myself

Happy Hour!

JNat

what food?

Mithrandir

09:21

at the moment Cheerios

Tinkeringbell

Uhmmm. Drop?

There must be some liquorice in my bag somewhere.

and myself

I'm still thinking what for dinner though... perhaps salad?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318558/…

Tinkeringbell

@andmyself I'm more worried about lunch. Yesterday they only had vegetarian snacks :/

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell Good for me :)

Shree

09:24

cv-pls support off-topic Need some help with this code please- Leaderboard Doesnt work - mateys‎ - 2018-11-20 09:21:38Z

Mithrandir

.....

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I'm sorry but that seems unkind to someone trying to help

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek gone

Shree

I know the rule. i don,t see that one before post.

Journeyman Geek

@Shree it's fine

and myself

09:27

That said, is salad okay with delivery?

Journeyman Geek

I can't always keep track of either

@andmyself ask the salad?

:p

and myself

:q

Journeyman Geek

More seriously depends

Nog Shine

:r

Mithrandir

are you trying to lick your nose?

Journeyman Geek

09:29

Some elements of a salad can go flaccid or soggy. Some elements travel better

Shadow Wizard

eww

Mithrandir

also never put tomatoes in the fridge

Tink will say just not to have tomatoes at all

JNat

@Mithrandir why?

Mithrandir

they end up tasting funny, especially cut - they taste much better when not in the fridge

JNat

huh, can't say I ever experienced funny-tasting tomatoes 'cause they were kept in the fridge

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mithrandir

09:34

I will absolutely refuse to eat cut tomatoes that have been put in the fridge. YMMV.

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Heh. People start to know me too well :P

Mithrandir

;)

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir but also last only couple of days instead a whole week, even more.

Mithrandir

since I eat whole tomatoes at a time, usually that's not an issue

and myself

I'll have pizza for dinner then...

Tinkeringbell

09:37

@andmyself Salad can have tomatoes too

Mithrandir

Pizza. Can't go wrong there... ...unless you put pineapple on it. *runs*

Or corn. Or onions. Or tomatoes.

Really, just like stick to mushrooms and olives ;P

and myself

Looks like Hawaiian pizza...

Tinkeringbell

Pizza is only doable if it has a lot of meat on it, so that you won't taste too much of the tomato base :P

Journeyman Geek

@andmyself .ewww

Mithrandir

...I can't have pizza with meat so I can't say I've ever tried it

Journeyman Geek

09:40

There's actually a cheese free pizza varient

@Mithrandir likewise

Mithrandir

Pizza without cheese is not pizza.

Journeyman Geek

I kinda prefer mine basic. Tomato sauce and cheese. Mom loads it with veggies tho

Mithrandir

It is an abomination.

Journeyman Geek

Errrr I meant tomatoes

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@JourneymanGeek dunno, it just reminded me of buying Hawaiian pizza at Canadian Pizza in Singapore ._.

... if that makes sense

Tinkeringbell

09:51

@andmyself I think it does?

Shadow Wizard

I miss Pizza Meter. Pizza shop which sold pizza by, well, meters. ;)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard If you then make them as wide as cheese sticks, you don't get much pizza either :P

Shadow Wizard

Turns out they're back!!

:D

Tinkeringbell

10:10

Looks like too much tomato :P

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I like tomato sauce though. I was actually eating pizza for dinner (at a premium local pizza restaurant, not a fast food chain), and I requested they change the default olive oil cause to tomato sauce.

Andras Deak

pizza!

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/21939/…

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Usually, I just use extra cheese ;)

cheese, meat, veggies, more cheese :P

Shadow Wizard

status-eating-leftover-pasta-from-yesterday

Welcome back @M.A.R. !!!

Journeyman Geek

10:22

ಠ_ಠ

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell nah can't be too much of it in pizza... :D

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard there's no such thing as too much cheese.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Geez I keep saying, I won't be able to be on long and often

@JourneymanGeek you obviously haven't had too much cheese

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ its one of the great chasms in my family

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Still people can be happy to see just little glimpses of you :P

Andras Deak

10:24

@JourneymanGeek pizza?

Journeyman Geek

Perfect pizza for me is basically tomato, and cheese and nearly burnt/

Andras Deak

it's OK, good pizza is worth tearing families apart for

Journeyman Geek

mom's like "It needs lots of veggies"

The other is pasta but that is a war that will never end. And I'm right.

Andras Deak

fortunately "I'm" always right ;)

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak I cook my pasta till its almost done

then finish cooking it in the sauce.

Andras Deak

10:25

you should cook it until it's done, by definition ;)

@JourneymanGeek ah, ew

Journeyman Geek

My parents cook pasta till its limp.

then cook it more

Andras Deak

that's ew too

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak ew?

Andras Deak

cook it once right, then add the rest separately on your plate :P

Journeyman Geek

ugh, no.

Ok, I will accept that

but even then I think it needs to be allowed to finish cooking on its own

not waterboarded.

But my parents are clearly wrong there.

I love my mom's cooking.

But where pasta goes...

Andras Deak

10:30

overcooked pasta is never good

Tinkeringbell

undercooked isn't edible either though.

Shadow Wizard

Tinkeringbell

Ooooh! I can live with that.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell undercooked is bad.

Shadow Wizard

Chocolate is undercooked?

Journeyman Geek

10:37

pasta ;p

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I don't like undercooked anything. :P

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell but but...

with dried pasta

getting the timing right means its done, well, as I like it

Andras Deak

If it's undercooked I just say Pasta la vista and leave.

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak good sir! Expect a nice warm gift in your shoes when you least expect it

Shadow Wizard

Hey that's not fair! I also want a gift.

Andras Deak

10:40

Sinterklaas is coming soon and he leaves gifts in one's shoes...

So I'd be expecting it on the 6th

Tinkeringbell

5th, actually :P

Shadow Wizard

I have only bad smell inside my shoe. :(

Journeyman Geek

But then you wouldn't be expecting it least.

@ShadowWizard We will elevate that smell to new lows then.

Tinkeringbell

And shoes are filled every Saturday evening, on the 5th there's a big pile of presents left somewhere in the house :P

Andras Deak

@Tinkeringbell takes him a day to get here

Journeyman Geek

10:41

@Tinkeringbell your dogs must be disgruntled.

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell Sounds like fun!

But isn't the tradition to hang all the presents on the tree? @Tinker

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Who said a dog was filling them? It's Sinterklaas :P

Journeyman Geek

.... maaaan...

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Nope, that's Christmas. Where you put them in stockings or underneath the tree

Andras Deak

@ShadowWizard Christmas. And under

Journeyman Geek

10:42

I can't imagine how angry he must be to leave warm gifts in people's shoes.

Tinkeringbell

We don't do that as we always got presents at Sinterklaas

Journeyman Geek

also... must eat a lot.

Andras Deak

Here Saint Nick comes on the 6th with sweets, and at Christmas Baby Jesus brings presents :D

Magisch

my family doesnt do christmas

Shadow Wizard

@AndrasDeak huh? Isn't that what you all talk about now? (Sinterklaas sounds like, well, Santa Claus... ;))

Tinkeringbell

10:43

@ShadowWizard It's difficult :P

Andras Deak

@ShadowWizard same guy

Tinkeringbell

Sinterklaas > Sint Nikolaas > Saint Nick

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak I didn't know they had diapers in his time...

Tinkeringbell

Some roman catholic saint, still wearing a catholic dress for example.

Andras Deak

It's just that Muricans confuse everything ;)

Shadow Wizard

10:44

@Tinkeringbell huh. So many different holidays in same time! lol

In Hanukkah we just give the kids some gifts and/or money.

@Mithrandir you still get "דמי חנוכה"? Or are you after that stage already? :)

Think we might give our children 20 NIS this time.

Andras Deak

> In one of the earliest attested and most famous incidents from his life, he is said to have rescued three girls from being forced into prostitution by dropping a sack of gold coins through the window of their house each night for three nights so their father could pay a dowry for each of them.

Shadow Wizard

o_O

Andras Deak

Hence putting your boots in the window sill

Shadow Wizard

What... is.. it? lol

Andras Deak

Saint Nicholas

So you put your boots in the window on the night of the 5th and by the 6th they're filled with sweets

Shadow Wizard

10:47

Or bird poop. :P

Andras Deak

Unless you were naughty :P

Tinkeringbell

@AndrasDeak Huh.. we put them 'near the hearth' or in this case underneath the radiator :P Cause the presents arrive via chimney, everyone knows that!

Shadow Wizard

and babies arrive with storks!

:D

Andras Deak

there's no chimney aspect here

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Yes, they do that here too. I'm always careful around storks. ;)

Andras Deak

10:50

I want to say because my people were too smart to accept that, but it's more likely they were too poor to own chimneys each :P

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell lol

Shree

cv-pls support off-topic Getting error while grace reboot of CentOS - Snehasish‎ - 2018-11-20 10:42:17Z

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