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12:09 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to Color The In-between Areas Of Shapes in Illustrator? by OrangeDude on graphicdesign.SE
 
 
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1:38 AM
hm
Apparently SE closed the Oregon Datacentre stuff
 
1:50 AM
Morning! With blackout!
 
2:01 AM
Excellent!
 
user202362
what if I make a self driving toy car to herd the chickens? :p
 
You'd doom us all?
 
user202362
doom the humanity with chicken herding self driving toy cars ... day dream extravaganza
 
2:34 AM
What if you make a chicken robot with AI instead?
 
user202362
that's within the plan down the track
 
user202362
AI chicken on Mars
 
user202362
just like chicken, but don't need to breath
 
user202362
and can carry stuff
 
user202362
capable of walking and flying
 
3:40 AM
Just realized, seeing '17 on almost all posts on SE gives an impression... I'm old :(
 
3:53 AM
@SensibleAlexander +1
Especially Dec 31, '17
I have an FAQ change proposal that I want more discussion before it's committed. Where is the best place to discuss?
 
I think you can discuss it here.... or just propose the edit and be Anon#3
 
I think the last item should be removed.
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Q: Stack Exchange Moderator FAQ

casperOneAs per the FAQ for Stack Exchange sites, this FAQ will serve the following purposes: To be the canonical reference for moderators across the Stack Exchange sites for things that are beyond question (typically, "how" questions) For situations that a moderator will face, provide information to he...

It's no longer the case. SO mods are MSO mods. The only exception, MSE, doesn't matter much unless you work for SE.
So shall we remove it?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: How To Keep Yourself Healthy Essay by jack on health.SE
 
It was added in January 2012, revision 15, which could be kind of ancient.
 
The wording is strange, and I agree it's no longer the case.
 
4:09 AM
Let's wait for more agreements before actually removing it.
 
I removed it...
 
Then the whole idea of my asking it here is broken...
 
well, you did raise a discussion, a short one :)
anyone can roll it back if they don't agree though~
 
Fine.
Hope whoever doesn't agree sees this discussion.
 
4:48 AM
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Q: How to deal with a player who is a bad sport?

polterheiistI have a dedicated gaming group that meets every Sunday. We have been playing regularly for over a year now. It's small, just 5 of us including the current DM. We all rotate DM position per campaign so that we can all have a chance to be players. One of our players is a very poor sport, both as...

I read that as "How to deal with a player who is bad at sport" on HNQ and got confused...
 
5:09 AM
WhY wHy WHy whY WHY????
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: zyplex It is something that by user20677 on astronomy.SE
 
6:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Difference between Contusion, Haemorrage and Hematoma? by jack on health.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: Primal Factor Along these lines, you could make by Cleolliott on graphicdesign.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Embrace Scar Therapy. Worth it or not? Is it just overpriced ordinary silicone sheet? by jack on health.SE
 
6:27 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: alphagenixsweden.com/vexan-male-enhancement/ by Kagaraljszd on meta.SE
 
@OptimusPrime conclusion: don't be too addicted :p
 
6:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Cleaning a mouth retainer by Iggy on lifehacks.SE
 
@SmokeDetector suspicious... after some consideration, it's weird to spam "Listerine". Ignoring about product placement, it's an answer albeit with bad formatting...
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@iDebug ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@iDebug ✓ You are a privileged user.
 
user315433
7:35 AM
!!/hats
 
@CrazyIvan Winter Bash won't end for 0 days, 16 hours, 24 minutes, and 17 seconds. GO EARN SOME HATS!
 
Remind me to post a question on hh:00:ss ...
 
post a question on hh:00:ss
 
actually
its 20 minute so, why not write a question now, set an alarm and hit post? ;p
 
7:45 AM
Because it has a NSFW vibe, and I'm at office...
oops
 
excuses
DO YOU WANT THE HAT SIR OR NOT? THERE'S POOR CHILDREN IN AFRICA WHO'D HAPPILY EAT THAT HAT!
 
uhh... donate hats to Africa
Come to think of it, I think the email I sent to SE's "Contact Us" was ignored
 
8:01 AM
Hi @JNat, hate to bring this up after a supposedly happy new year, but is there any update on issue on Anime.SE DMCA?
 
Or well, just let it go and move on...
 
8:20 AM
@SensibleAlexander I have a card on my personal trello board to remind me to poke people who I need to poke about it every month (as in, I haven't forgotten it), but unfortunately, I have no updates yet
 
@JNat no problem and thanks for the effort, I suppose Anime.SE community has moved on for their (our) own goodness.
And, a (really belated) happy new year :)
 
right back at you ;)
 
 
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10:11 AM
it is so nice to come back after the holidays and see that the ancestral battle between moderators and users continues onward
well, a few hours and we will finally say goodbye to "creative" hats placements
 
10:31 AM
I'll miss the hats :'(
!!/hats
 
@Stijn Winter Bash won't end for 0 days, 13 hours, 27 minutes, and 48 seconds. GO EARN SOME HATS!
 
should be
> HURRY UP AND EARN MORE HATS! Winterbash will be over in 0 days, 13 hours, 25 minutes, and 1 second. :(
 
Jan 11 '16 at 10:17, by Derpy
New mad idea. We could build a client side hat user script to add custom hats support all year long. Probably the only problem is that all the hats would be available from the start - it would be just for decoration purpose...
start there.
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard probably indian. "Fresher" in the UK is a first year student, in india its someone newly looking for work for the first time ;p
 
10:43 AM
One good thing is result of using tag.... a Jobs developer noticed this and insta closed. ;)
 
Proof they monitor MSE 24/7 like wolves. :D
(Even during holidays!)
and @JNat deleted.... that's rare. Thanks! :)
 
... or they insta-close all questions tagged with 😲
 
@SensibleAlexander lol... usually migrate to MSO if it's legit
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard or MSE posts get thrown into one of their helpdesk queues
 
10:45 AM
@JourneymanGeek nah.... hard to believe it's so advanced
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard it's tagged , and I usually keep an eye out for those ;)
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard meta's monitored somehow
and there's a ton of meta sites ;p
 
oh.... another option is chat feed in their private chat.
 
I need to start generating work for JNat again
been slacking the past couple of months in prep of my final exams and presentation exam
 
@Magisch lol.... reminds me of the black square in Xonix
Hardest part of the game was always keeping it busy.
Finding the way to make it stuck inside infinite loop was tricky.
 
10:48 AM
heh
Pretty sure I've contacted the CM team maybe 4-5 times a year at most
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I'm late for the party ... again ...
 
@rene blame @Aurélien.... and JNat..... ;)
 
Sure, this will be their blame year
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard It's John Dvorak's fault.
 
!!/blame JNat
 
@SensibleAlexander It's Tim Post's fault.
 
makes sense
both with diamonds on their name...
 
@SensibleAlexander both who? @John got no diamond
oh, you mean JNat. oops. lol
 
Speaking of that diamond of mine...
 
11:05 AM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard > I've found you, faker!
(trad: it's only Jan, 2nd and you already won the 2018 lamest name pun prize )
 
11:46 AM
20k Jenkins meta.stackexchange.com/questions/305295/… /cc @ShadowtheHedgehogWizard @JourneymanGeek @Glorfindel (needs 1 moar)
 
12:02 PM
@SensibleAlexander jeeeenkkkiiinnnnssss
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Q: How can I quit a community?

J. S. BachHow can I quit a community if I accidentally get into a wrong one? It is rather annoying to see something useless in my account page.

and if he changed his mind....
He'd be Bach
 
@JourneymanGeek needs a retag to support ...
nvm
hammered by @ShadowtheHedgehogWizard
 
hm
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard could do that
 
@Derpy Ano would be mad at you!
 
12:13 PM
@rene deleted by the Trio, no diamond involved!
@rene hmm?
@JourneymanGeek I can do everything, sure! (even coffee!)
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard meh!
 
@rene ham!
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard "here comes Shadow the recolor, the one character that tried to destroy the world for revenge only to later join up forces with the ones that killed his friend Maria".
Nope, still lame. Only thing worst than Shadow backstory in Sonic universe is Sonic 06 plot
 
which isn't canon and even if it was... it somehow self erases at the end of the game
 
12:18 PM
@Derpy oh this reminds me.... I plan to ask for help with choosing my next name!
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard ShaWiz. Definitely ShaWiz
 
"Shadow, the savior of the Unizard kingdom"
 
@SensibleAlexander Savior, like by blowing up
 
Result: 0 votes.
 
Oh, it increased?
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard "can be split" - your new name should be split ;p
 
@SensibleAlexander illegal choice, someone chose "Other" without telling me which name. :(
@JourneymanGeek lol so it's you casting the first vote? ;)
 
naw, third
 
12:27 PM
I chose other, and pinged you and suggested!
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard when did I request ShaWiz?
also, noscript warns of possible xss attack on that url.
 
@Derpy LOL.... blame @M.A.R. he cast a Confusion spell on me!
11 mins ago, by M.A.R.
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard ShaWiz. Definitely ShaWiz
 
@Derpy must be your evil twin! With the goatee! Who's a My enormous Goat(ee!)
 
harharhar
 
12:31 PM
oh well, it's not like anyone will be mad at you for that... only at me.... :D
 
....
he has a goatee!
He is the chosen cursed one!
or the cursing one. the ink seems to be a bit faded on that part of the prophesy. Also says "For a good time, call doris at 555-1234"
 
@Derpy weird.... looked at their code, simple AJAX submit when voting, no GET actions.
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard choose one from here
 
@SensibleAlexander Had Wizards Ow
 
12:36 PM
Thats @M.A.R!
 
Yes, @JourneymanGeek, there are ponies with beards.
 
Its clearly a goat.
 
lol, just noticed the strawpoll site changed their logic to use long id strings with letters too, for long time they had only a number and anyone could see all the polls by just changing that number. Too bad, I saw some cool polls like that. :D
 
That's precisely the insidiousness of its evil
 
@Derpy @M.A.R. has no beard.
 
12:40 PM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Yes I do. It's extremely cool.
And hot
Schrodinger's beard
 
It's moustache on wrong place
 
@SensibleAlexander That's called eyebrows. We're over that
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard see, that's what they want you to think
 
@M.A.R. think he meant below that
 
Eyebrows on my chin? Yuck
 
and he probably has an eye patch under those glasses.
and a second beard under that hat.
An invisible beard.
 
@JourneymanGeek wait... you... you... replied.... amazed :P
 
@JNat Am I right in reading that a random rights management company just claimed what looked like everything in a keyword search?
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I am full of surprises
 
Afaik if SE wants it can go after this company civilly. Every DMCA request filed without consideration of fair use is a charge of perjury, afaik. (Not a lawyer)
 
12:43 PM
@Magisch that's how they operate no?
 
Yeah thats also not how the DMCA is supposed to be used from my understanding of it
 
@JourneymanGeek not good, human (and any mammal actually) should be filled with flesh and blood, not surprises. Go check yourself at a doctor! :D
 
with the giant flaming IANAL disclaimer from what I've read you can be charged for perjury for every single DMCA claim you make without manually considering fair use
 
@Magisch I think a lot of companies sub contract and clusterbomb
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard If you stab me, do I not bleed? (and feel very surprised)
and painful
and maybe dead
 
@JourneymanGeek dunno, must try to be sure. stabs @JourneymanGeek
 
12:45 PM
surprised! bleeds a lot
 
ewww blue blood
 
That would be surprising yes
as would a tendancy for it to randomly catch fire
 
horseshoe crabs have blue ish blood
they don't use hemoglobin for oxygen transport
 
whoa 11 votes.... not bad...
@Magisch they also have diamonds? ;)
 
no
but they have a very unique immune system that is utilized in testing effectiveness of treatments and vaccines. Horseshoe crab blood is one of the most expensive substances on earth
 
12:51 PM
@Magisch how... you know all that?! lol
(or better question... why?? ;))
 
Saw a documentary about them once
 
The powers that be should probably delete the duplicate possible duplicate comments pointing out duplicates - data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/776795
 
They have a copper containing hemoglobin analogue named hemocyanin for oxygen transport and have something in their blood that kills bacteria effectively which can be manufactured into a compound that is unparalleled at detecting bacterial toxins. So it can be used as a sort of ultra sensitive remaining bacteria test
 
oh, those are rare cases when a close as dupe vote expired, then same dupe vote was cast again, usually years later, and still didn't "catch"... don't think it's a problem, no need to waste mod time on that IMO. @Dukeling
 
1:00 PM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I might be wrong, but I think the duplicate comment only gets duplicated when one happened before the lower/uppercase comment change and another happened after, and possibly if there was a title change.
Can't explain this though (maybe that was just a bug).
(an *unrelated* bug)
 
1:35 PM
@Magisch DMCA 101 for dummies: asking for removal of youtube reviews of MLP episodes but doing nothing to have content like Smile Hd (quick sugestion: do not search for that) removed.
 
1:54 PM
@Derpy is that a nsfw mlp adaption?
 
HTF-version?
 
@Magisch seems to be one of those shock animations
 
Sad Grass Enemy
 
@Magisch "adaptation" ... no, not at all. To make it simple: one of the most famous song in the series is called "Smile song" - it dates to season 1. Someone had the "brillant" idea to do a gore animation (afaik using stolen flash puppets from the show) and call it "Smile HD"
 
so happy tree friends by way of MLP then?
 
1:57 PM
basically. The mayor problem is that it shares basically the same name of a real song
 
sounds gross
 
now, suppose you are a kid browsing youtube and you want to listen to the original song. You search "Mlp smile song" and the third result is labeled "Smile HD".
you can easily figure how it will end.
 
@Derpy if it was SU, you'd flag it, a real person would see it, delete it, and hate the person who posted it. FOREVER.
 
Well, HD is for Hardcore Drawing... I suppose
 
@Derpy surely that can be flagged off youtube
 
@JourneymanGeek instead it stays there, it has a somehow normal thumbnail and no age rating.
and actual reviews get removed.
 
@Derpy moderating content is hard
and paying people to do it dosen't always make business sense.
 
Youtube is notoriously terrible with moderating content
 
@JourneymanGeek I know, what makes me sad is that they can find the way to "moderate" a question on Anime.SE but not to stop content that violates copyrights and Youtube TOS
 
@Derpy different people tho
 
2:01 PM
Like, dumpster-fire-of-the-'web terrible. Even 4 chan is clean sometimes vs youtube
@Derpy Because on youtube instead of taking down your video they just monetize it for themselves, instead
 
@Magisch precisely.
 
and that
 
using youtube's fully automated "content id" system. They can automatically flag and monetize your video for themselves using a pattern database where they don't have to do anything themselves. For SE someone needs to send an actual DMCA request
 
(Personally I think automated take down requests violate both the spirit and letter of the rules)
 
Youtube lets you take down and/or appropriate revenue from any content before you ever have to file a DMCA request
Companies do this unashamedly - Nintendo for instance has a "creators program" where you can sign up to pay 40% of all your channel revenue in exchange to be allowed to post reviews or videos featuring nintendo content
 
2:04 PM
@Magisch tho IIRC google proper gets a ton of DMCA takedown notices of that manner as well
 
otherwise they'll take 100% of your earnings for everything featuring, talking about, containing, pertaining to or discussing any of their games and properties.
 
and the question is really - if its worth it for SE to actually fight these
 
answer is probably no
fighting a copyright lawsuit is hella expensive
 
eh, it depends I suppose
 
Apparently I forgot the YouTube video I post is really NSFW. I didn't think it's so explicit after watching it again after 7 years later. @RO: delete it if you will
 
2:06 PM
companies filing these DMCA takedowns know this
 
these folks will probably fold if challenged
they get paid anyway
but its still a hassle
(which is what they probably rely on)
 
of course they'll fold
they won't actually sue, thats not worth it for them
 
yup
vultures :(
 
But even having a lawyer type up a proper response counterclaim is a massive hassle with getting all the authors to sign on
It's like copyright trolls where the settlements they propose are just below what a barebones defense costs
They know exactly what they're doing
 
I wonder if there's any money in automating counter claims ;p
 
2:09 PM
unlike claims, filing a spurious counterclaim means you assume full liability once sued
so probably not
 
I forgot the technique which was done by Jimquisition... copyright.. poisoning?
 
deadlock ... it's a way of messin with the setdressin of youtube's content ID system
 
@Magisch assume they fight it.
 
Ah yeah, that's it.
 
by including copyrighted content from 5+ different companies they don't agree on who gets to steal ad revenue so the video ends up unmonetized
Jim was upset that his ad free show was getting plastered with ads to nintendo's benefit
 
2:11 PM
@Magisch Dave from EEVblog was complaining about that
 
Nintendo's stance on customer content is we own it all and we will make the most profit from it
Basicly they don't recognize transformative work or fair use and haven't been sued for it since nobody has the multi-million dollars it takes to sue a multibillion dollar company into submission through the appeals charade
 
 
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3:22 PM
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ZzzZzz💤
 
4:12 PM
@SensibleAlexander I ain't asked for one
but they gave me 2
 
5:07 PM
There was, at some point, an answer where someone did some comprehensive testing to figure out what the exact triggers were, and posted an answer here about it. Where did that go? — Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog 2 days ago
 
I wonder what would have happened if this was fixed 6 hours and 49 minutes later?
 
5:43 PM
I guess I should keep my mouth shut, the fixing of that bug earned me a hat ...
10 messages moved to Chimney
 
5:58 PM
@SensibleAlexander now I am again ;)
 
Prettige paashaas
 
I knew you were ahead of your time, but by this much ...
However, I wish you "geluk in'n tuk"
 
:D
 
It's at least 300 something days 'till Xmas and we've already got our tree up. So so tacky.
 
6:14 PM
@TimPost Just took all of the ornaments off mine. :P
 
@Catija I'm sitting here rationalizing the fact that I'm putting that off until the weekend by the fact that my neighbors seem to be doing the same. Normalization at its best!
 
@TimPost I was tempted to leave it up until the city comes to pick them up but I don't know when that will be and the maids are coming tomorrow... so I'd rather they be able to clean up all of the needles... and we took the day off of work today because the kiddo's school's closed
 
Hey, does anyone know what <site id>-suggested-edits-count-update does?
 
The maids? If you ever need someone to have your problems for a while, please let me know! :P
 
@quartata it shows the (edit(1)) on a post?
 
6:21 PM
I was hopping it would update whenever a new suggested edit made it into the review queue for a site but I haven't gotten any messages yet
@rene so it's for a given post?
not site id
 
@TimPost Well, it's not actually too expensive and they only come once every two weeks. Plus, we always pre-clean before they come... because we're weird.
 
no, that's what I've been reading
I listened to it on SO for about 3 minutes and didn't get anything
but I'm sure some edits have been suggested
 
Oh, wait. wasn't that for the old topbar to show that there were reviews to do?
 
@Catija Do they do ovens and other kitchen 'heavy lifting' sorts of things?
 
6:24 PM
I don't know
-review-dashboard-update fires whenever a user does a review from what I can tell
it updates the little list of avatars
@TimPost Do you know anything about this?
Or can you ask someone?
 
@TimPost No. Just the light stuff... they won't clear out my fridge of the science experiments... they don't even change the sheets. Mostly vacuuming, dusting, mopping, and washing down the surfaces/basins in the bathroom/kitchen. They rotate doing a "deep clean" through the four "types" of rooms every visit... so they do the basic stuff everywhere and the deep clean stuff every 8 weeks.
They keep the spiderwebs out of the corners and the bunnies out from under the bed.
 
@quartata when that message comes in it does a post to '/review/suggested-edit-count' and then updates an element called with a class .suggested-edits-count that I can't find.
 
@rene hmmm
well that's a bummer
 
reverse engineered from here
 
Yeah I don't see it on the home page, review or on a post
maybe in the queue itself, let me see
nope
 
6:34 PM
It could be that this a left over of so many refactors
 
6:53 PM
@quartata I believe (from looking into that like 2 years ago) that you're correct, and I can't think of any reason why that would have changed.
 
Well whatever suggested-edit-count was being used for it's not used anywhere anymore
 
It won't update on skips and stuff, but should fire each time an actual review is completed
Hmm, weird. I think that's probably just litter after so many iterations of redoing the review icons on the new nav
 
Oh, -review-dashboard-update definitely still does that
I was hoping to find a source for suggested edits without polling the API
-review-dashboard-update will work for CVs though, at least for what SOBotics uses them for
 
7:08 PM
Hi guys, just asked this question, why is it considered to broad? Could an edit save it from the wrath of downvoters?
Bit ironic a post on downvoting gets so many downvotes
 
Actually, it's pretty common. Anyway, it's probably being voted as too broad because it's asking about all downvoted questions ever... and each question will have an explanation for why it's still around... without specific examples, there's a plethora of possibilities.
 
@Catija So its decided for each question, there's not any general reasons why many downvoted posts are kept?
 
@JakeSymons Nope. I mean, on Meta, as you said yourself, it's different... you don't even limit your question to a main site or a meta site... on meta, highly downvoted questions are usually useful as reference, particularly in the case of a feature request... lots of downvotes means it's unpopular... and that's good information. The answers will explain why.
 
@Catija so what about on main sites, not meta?
Like Stackoverflow
 
The site policy depends on the site, to some degree... so you should be asking on that site, not on MSE.
 
7:17 PM
@Catija but if my question is for every site...do I have to ask the question on every site?
 
And sometimes, particularly on SO, it's more a matter of people not seeing them to delete them rather than that there's some intentional reason for it.
I don't think it's a good question to ask, regardless.
 
Great. Each site is different
 
Something being a crappy question doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't have good answers... we even give badges for getting highly upvoted answers on a very heavily downvoted question...
 
 
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10:17 PM
Yay! I'm now an official Hedgehog, confirmed by @Shog! :D
 
10:50 PM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard this is a good thing?
 
11:13 PM
@JakeSymons also, on meta, DVs are different
if its too broad, it gets closed
 
user315433
11:52 PM
nicoguaro is the first mod appointed in 2018 (Computational Science)
 
user315433
Yeah, right. For those 7 minutes.
 

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