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user202362

00:04

@Oded like this?

user202362

user310756

01:27

@Telkitty hi ! yeh that's why I smiled... I went to bed a bit later - watched an interesting series on netflix. I actually went to bed early, slept for hours then got up - sat with my sons for a while, then went back to bed.

user310756

@SmokeDetector I dunno, are you spam?

Journeyman Geek

02:14

@YvetteColomb hm, same username and link, but answer looks fineish

Catija

02:46

@JourneymanGeek Morning!

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector included summary from "spammed" link... Mission f*cking accomplished!

Journeyman Geek

@Catija morning!

\o/, looks like I took back #1 in the weekly standings :)

Catija

@JourneymanGeek YAY! I'm trying and failing to do as well... :(

Well, I'll never be #1

Journeyman Geek

03:01

@Catija not even sure what the significance of it is, other than that I was knocked back a few places by unaccept/reaccept schnanigans ;p

Catija

Did "weekly" start today?

Journeyman Geek

cough

Catija

Wasn't me.

Journeyman Geek

hasn't rolled over yet

Catija

Did you see my fancy FAQ answer?

Journeyman Geek

03:02

Not naming names ;p

Catija

@JourneymanGeek Are you sure?

Journeyman Geek

not for me, no ;p

Catija

meta.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=week

Wouldn't it roll over at the same time for everyone?

Journeyman Geek

still says "Nov 5, 2017 - Nov 11, 2017"

Catija

I think we're looking at different pages maybe?

Journeyman Geek

03:02

maybe

ah, the association bonus one?

Catija

Yes.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Catija

It was faq-proposed but there wasn't actually a faq style answer on it.

Journeyman Geek

I tend to trawl the front page for unanswered stuff sooooo ._.

Catija

I'm hoping that adding the actual FAQ will get it pushed into the actual FAQ list.

Journeyman Geek

03:04

ah ;p

That's CW no? though I'm not sure about the etiquette of tagging there

Catija

I wasn't sure, though... I didn't want to edit the existing answer because it's so different.

When it gets turned into a FAQ, yes, but for right now it's not a CW.

Journeyman Geek

naw, I mean the actual FAQ list

Catija

Well, I mean it will go from faq-proposed to faq.... and get added to the list of FAQs.

Journeyman Geek

05:08

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/303127/… closevotes please?

Catija

Already had.

It's been really quiet all day here.

Journeyman Geek

most people don't hang out around chat rooms on sunday? ;)

Catija

Or Saturday...

Journeyman Geek

Some people have better things to do than CV off topic questions on a weekend. Who'd have thunk ;)

Catija

Nah...

Journeyman Geek

05:21

Not that I'm going to, but tempted to answer "Make Eye contact - take mouthful of said food. Chew slowly while staring right into his eyes. Repeat until food is finished. Walk away silently" interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/6560/… to this

but ugh, that's a troll answer to the level of my worldbuilding troll answers ;)

Catija

There are already two "tell them to f off" answers...

Journeyman Geek

lol

(also, my dad does that sometimes. ... MAYBE I SHOULD TRY MY OWN NON ADVICE)

Catija

... um... thee, apparently, actually... :/

Journeyman Geek

SORRY!

Catija

You're too nice.

user202362

05:41

Speaking of which, I have been mean to some of my ex-friend after became too fed up, so I eventually told them off & almost saying "I don't want to see you for the rest of my life." A few months later, they started contacting me again. one of them called me 3 times last week.

user202362

I don't get some people, if you want to keep long term friends, you need to be nice to them and not treating them like sh!t, and when they finally snap, start begging and hoping they come back?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Sounds like a question for IPS....

(also, people are just strange)

on the other hand, the help vampires are in full force ._.

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/303129/… needs one CV, then delvotes meta.stackexchange.com/questions/303130/… ditto ....

user202362

06:28

I feel like being a help vampire, I need to know something about vps life cycle

Journeyman Geek

07:55

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SmokeDetector

08:11

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Do I really need a well? by user199859 on gaming.SE

rene

08:26

@YvetteColomb always happy to help to sharpen your tools ... ;)

Travis J

I have decided to become a dual citizen in Scotland since we have so much in common

user202362

user310756

08:44

@rene I'm a sharp as a babies blanket :D

rene

cv-pls dhcp meta.stackexchange.com/q/303135/158100

delv-pls 20K NSFW meta.stackexchange.com/a/303132/158100 /cc @TravisJ @JourneymanGeek @ShadowWizard @Bart

Travis J

That image was creepy

Not yours @Telkitty, the now deleted selfie that will haunt me for the next 10 minutes

Chess is a good distraction

Journeyman Geek

09:02

@TravisJ hah.

Journeyman Geek

09:21

Not sure if its his selfie or if he was trolling a friend

rene

That would redefine the definition of friend. I mean, there are limits, right?

Shadow Wizard

@rene no

;-)

@rene umm... Why NSFW? Just a face pic.

disappointed

rene

I just wanted it to be gone quickly

Travis J

still haunted.

Andrew T.

@Telkitty uni...alpaca

Travis J

09:47

Can't decide which SUV should buy #firstworldproblems

rene

Make the world a better place: Use public transport.

Travis J

We don't have public transportation.

Journeyman Geek

....

I just realised mr face-exchange posted more than one selfie ;p

Travis J

lol

dude, leave me out of this round

Journeyman Geek

I almost think the rude/abusive flag might not be the worst option

Travis J

09:55

I've seen enough

Definitely abusive to post selfies as answers... It shows a gross negligence.

Journeyman Geek

"Your face is rude"

Andrew T.

Face.SE ... eww

Shadow Wizard

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Shadow Wizard

o_O

Andrew T.

10:09

◎_◎

Travis J

<.<

Shadow Wizard

> .SE Direkt is raising the price for .se domains by SEK 12.00 (excluding VAT) with effect from October 1, 2017. More information about our prices and other offers is available from our website.

Andrew T.

facehu...facehugg...<connection lost>

Shadow Wizard

feature-request have SE start selling domains

Journeyman Geek

sadly, with recent events, I'm doubtful stack exchange will ever be able to buy sweden.

Andrew T.

10:10

tavern.channels.stackoverflow.com

Shadow Wizard

lol x 2

@AndrewT. why you want to hug face?

(nose is in the middle, it won't be very comfortable)

that reminds me, my "older" kids (7 and 4) sometimes sit on their little sister face (baby 8 months old now) and I have to yell them away... lol

Andrew T.

not me, but there's that thing that hug faces (don't Google it? you've been warned)

Shadow Wizard

Somehow she doesn't cry from this, just laugh.

@AndrewT. hug face brings only bunch of emoji...

Andrew T.

the facehugger itself

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT. oh.... this? (just gross, no NSFW)

Personally I prefer tree huggers. Ever got such a shirt. :D

oh new face around... @Arhad welcome to the Tavern! ;)

Guess you know @alexolut, see you're high rep user on ru.SO

@Bart can't know... each troll and their own weird stuff...

Travis J

10:26

Why UI, just why the UI dude?

Andrew T.

> This (12)

also, "SexEd" folder???

Travis J

lol, apparently so, right next to the reflexology folder

Arhad

@ShadowWizard Hi! I just hanging around with curiosity.

Travis J

Was that a cat reference?

Arhad

@ShadowWizard That's right, he is the most participating and honored Ru.SO UI localizer. BTW, I hope there was no long-term consequences of his... well, recent massive actions.

Andrew T.

10:40

nah... no long-term consequence, just an honest mistake that he has resolved with staffs and the community :)

Travis J

They weren't that massive, seen far worse.

At least they weren't really done with bad intentions.

Bart

He didn't even receive a smiting

Shadow Wizard

10:58

@Arhad what are you curious about? :D

Andrew T.

"What is Tavern?"

Shadow Wizard

@Arhad only three days suspension, so no "long-term consequences". :)

@alexolut became top bug reporter on MSE too.

(or one of the top)

@AndrewT. just a place full with stars and unicorns... and floating heads...

@Bart it's never too late, you know. ;)

Smiting is best served cold, no?

Ice cold Smiting, now in the supermarket near your place

Surely @alexolut will take it gracefully, if he'll survive all my pings....

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I was slightly sore at him ;p

pinging @alexolut does sound like suitable punishment tho. eh?

Andrew T.

@shgo9

Travis J

well, time for me to go to bed

user202362

11:07

Travis J

this was my best chess tonight I think

Bart

11:27

I've been trying to get into both chess and go before, but I never get anywhere

Arhad

@AndrewT. "... in its essence and soul", right.

user202362

once I played Xiangqi online, my opponent told me to shut up and concentrate on the play instead

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ that guy's super agressive with his queen 0_0

user202362

12:06

finally I cleaned up all trash on the server, almost anyways

user202362

almost ready for the upgrade

Shadow Wizard

13:04

@JourneymanGeek yeah wonder when @alexolut will get mad at us? ;)

Andrew T.

@sho9g

is there an anti-ping filter for shog?

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT. no, someone in Den found out in the hard way

Result of pinging @Shog

Mar 19 '16 at 16:24, 2 minutes total – 10 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked Nov 16 '16 at 14:54 by Shadow Wizard

Andrew T.

oh... (´・_・｀)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard @alexolut will let us know I think

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT. think they enjoyed it... good kick can do wonders. :D

@JourneymanGeek maybe he'll unaccept our answers as revenge.... :P

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/303139/152859

oh wait...

buh

Andrew T.

13:13

erf, not really sure about that..

Shadow Wizard

There is whole domain for that, usually they just post the Stack Apps link.

Spammy, but yeah probably not really spam.

Andrew T.

From the StackApp's entry, they worked hard. I appreciate it

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT. the way they put it appeared suspicious... guess I was just in combat mode.

Andrew T.

the longer you're here, the more Smokey's influence you'll get :S

times 5 if on Charcoal HQ

Shadow Wizard

Ouch

!!/blame

Of course ^

Journeyman Geek

14:05

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Henry WH Hack v2.1

14:38

JourneymanGeek = RO???

Journeyman Geek

@HenryWHHackv2.1 yup

Henry WH Hack v2.1

:)

Journeyman Geek

I'm around a fair bit, and someone needs to sweep the chimney

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector naa

Catija

Can anyone report back to Smokey or do you have to have permissions?

Henry WH Hack v2.1

14:43

I wasn't trying to do anything bad.

@Catija You mean for stuff like sd k,n and f?

Catija

@HenryWHHackv2.1 yes.

Henry WH Hack v2.1

I think you need to have some permissions.

Andrew T.

!!/help

Catija

Ah, helpful. :D

Andrew T.

Anyway, I just realized ES.SE has a meta post dedicated to list reasons for downvoting

aaaaaand.... it's translated/adapted from Will's idownvotedbecau.se :O

Shadow Wizard

14:48

huh

!!/amiprivileged

@Catija just run this command ^^

Catija

@ShadowWizard Why? I'm pretty sure I'm not.

Henry WH Hack v2.1

!!/amiprivileged

Catija

!!/amiprivileged

Shadow Wizard

What a big "x" lol

Henry WH Hack v2.1

╳?

Catija

14:49

See.

Shadow Wizard

:(

@HenryWHHackv2.1 icon for "not"

Too big for my taste

!!/blame for too big X

Catija

@SmokeDetector Awww, Smokey, you do like me. :D

Shadow Wizard

lol

hichris123

16:30

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Magisch

19:51

whoa

Catija

20:09

@Magisch Nellie?

Magisch

Shog's comment got me thinking

We need a distinction line somewhere

Like if a question has a relationship in the base situation we need a way to distinguish questions about relationships with a social angle (off topic) from questions about an interpersonal situation where the setting is just a relationship (presumably on topic)

Catija

Probably. Maybe a good subject for meta.

Magisch

I wonder, it seems like almost nobody is reading or participating in meta

It feels like everyone is just kinda using the site as a vaguely related freeform discussion forum

Catija

Yes.

Magisch

And inherent in the SE model is that nobody singular has the authority or say to do anything about it

Besides the CMs, I guess

Catija

20:16

If you're curious, we've deleted around 5K comments since the site started... It's about the same rate as TWP and we're much smaller.

Magisch

You seem to be keeping up though besides the timezone issue

Maybe that timezone issue is more important then previously thought, I think to make main understand what can't be done requires moderators being available enough so that comments that are made in the middle of the american night don't stay up until you get up

Catija

I have some great, active flaggers. Makes my job easy... along with the auto 20 comments script... I kill a lot of the comments it catches.

Magisch

or more people using comment flags aggressively

Shog's analysis is as concerning as it is accurate

Catija

I'd really like something that catches new comments on inactive threads, though.

Magisch

We need a way to keep conversation more on topic in a way that isn't a meta post

Catija

20:19

@Magisch Yes. And I'm glad he said it there, not to us in our mod room.

Magisch

How do we tackle that? We don't have enough people using meta to make policy there atm I think

I've seen maybe 15-20 people active on meta in my time on the site

Catija

It's a problem we've had for a while. The HNQs draw in transient participation but most users don't bother to stick around unless they see a "fun" question on the sidebar.

Magisch

@Catija So ... next steps?

The CMs are swamped at the moment so the moderators and the site users will have to find a way to move forward on what shog said. Where can we organize to do this?

Catija

@Magisch Moving Shog's message to Meta, I think, and asking what we should do...

Magisch

Maybe slapping featured on it too

Catija

20:29

I can do that, yes.

Magisch

We need to mobilise people to ... close more questions and work out the intricacies of what is on topic, I think

Not just people, the active site users

Catija

Absolutely. Now that we have a userbase that's more active, we need to start pushing to decide what's off topic and what's OK. And it's not going to be easy.

Magisch

Right

I need to get off my behind and get to 5k and start using all my votes every day

Catija

I'm actually really glad that you're interested in helping us.

We certainly need the help.

Magisch

I like SE and I really took a liking to IPS

And I'm a total meta head

So this is my element :D

Catija

20:34

YAY! Sounds like a match made in heaven.

And now I have to go and tend to a small child.

Journeyman Geek

23:39

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Result of pinging @Shog

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