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3:00 PM
And the contests were essentially declared to be over after the 10M fiasco.
 
Same as app development.
@Michelle really?? Reference?
 
I am lost.
 
sending map to @TheLittleNaruto
 
Correction: lost in ongoing conversation.
 
What went wrong with the 10M event? I really don't remember... :/
@TheLittleNaruto talking about swag and how to get it
 
@Michelle I might have missed that
 
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@TheLittleNaruto heh, I got that set.
The nalgene bottles are better tho, my orange cup lid detatched after a few months
 
@TheLittleNaruto eh for what?
 
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It was a comment by an employee (animuson?) somewhere that they learned from 10M and won't try it again. But I may have misinterpreted it. Can't find it now, anyway.
 
3:03 PM
and unlike the mugs, they won't send you a new one when they break ;p
@redhand #soreadytohelp
 
@ShaWizDowArd so... should we tell him or it is more fun to bask in the forgot knowledge only the oldest users brotherhoods now remember?
 
I should have gotten 2 though. one for #SoReadyToHelp Tweet and another for this one above ^
 
@Michelle well, slow but happy ending... where do they say no more contests?
They made a huge mistake by not limiting the amount, e.g. top 50 answers...
 
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Not in that thread, although even there, you can see there weren't new ones after 2015.
 
3:05 PM
the salary is very huge
 
When I got it delivered, I was in bedrest in the hospital. I was so excited that I couldn't stop myself to check it out. So I asked my gf to bring it over.
 
@Derpy nah, let him find it himself ;)
 
@redhand It is.
 
@Michelle I heard in a few places that swag was just a pain to manage
 
@TheLittleNaruto lol, nice!
 
3:07 PM
:)
 
(and SE is a LOT larger than the old days)
 
@redhand lol.... reminds me of mistakes in airlines websites, offering tickets for $1. It happens quite often!
 
@JourneymanGeek It can be true, because I got only one set of Swag goodies.
 
@TheLittleNaruto I got a few t shirts, but I'm a long time user
 
You're a mod as well and 100k rep user too
 
3:08 PM
My next chance to get swag would be 250k I suspect, unless MSE has a 100K
@TheLittleNaruto and been on SE over 8 years ;p
 
That's a lot
I have been on SO almost 5 years
 
practically - I joined SU shortly (days?) after it came out of beta
amusingly, at this rate, my next 100k is probably at MSE, in 4-5 years ;p
 
lol
@Journeyman but did you take a selfie with the T-shirt? i.stack.imgur.com/1MpQU.jpg :P
 
@ShaWizDowArd no, just with my mod hat <---- ;p
 
3:11 PM
:D
Wonder if the dog can also wear the shirt..... ;)
 
@ShaWizDowArd my tshirt has just a logo
 
@TheLittleNaruto too bad!
 
It's not too bad.. But it's bad. :/
 
@ShaWizDowArd naw, human's a XL dog's a XXXS probably
 
@ShaWizDowArd Is it yours ?
 
3:13 PM
@TheLittleNaruto you already have that leaf headband, no need for a SE shirt ^_^
 
@TheLittleNaruto yup
 
I also have... 3 + 1 SU shirts
 
Also got a sticker and mug
 
@Derpy lol true 😀
 
(2 black, one white, one windows 8)
@ShaWizDowArd I have a stack of stickers.
 
3:14 PM
@JourneymanGeek lol
I got one, I think, put it on my old computer: i.stack.imgur.com/0LNMs.jpg
 
@ShaWizDowArd it is not a selfie. It is a mirror image. The letters are mirrored.
 
@redhand lol, good point... think back then there wasn't a back camera... lol
 
@ShaWizDowArd A sticker or a suitcase ?
 
(or there was but with terrible quality)
 
@ShaWizDowArd do you have any free plug there?
 
3:16 PM
@TheLittleNaruto the sticker on the PC ;)
 
all of them is filled with some kind of chargers
 
@ShaWizDowArd oh ok
 
@redhand yeah... computer, screen, modem, phone, speakers...
 
charges @redhand
 
that's a pc
not a suitcase
 
3:18 PM
is that Arale's sister?
 
@redhand ikr ?
 
@Derpy ?
 
@Derpy Sha's daughter I guess
 
And to complete the set, my mug: i.stack.imgur.com/BbG90.png (in the old days when it was still used for coffee, before being converted)
 
not sure though
 
3:20 PM
@ShaWizDowArd how it looks now?
 
(there are about ~50 more shekels in it by now)
 
hah
@ShaWizDowArd cosair?
looks a lot like my 600T other than the trim
 
@TheLittleNaruto your guess is correct ;)
 
@ShaWizDowArd ^ this one.
 
3:24 PM
@JourneymanGeek what's that?
 
May also be a valid choice to get the daughter into cosplay. And you into the expensive fun of paying for the costumes.
 
@ShaWizDowArd oh the case
 
@Derpy lol... they do look similar.... :D
@JourneymanGeek oh lol don't remember... bought a gamer's computer, out of the box... will have to look for the receipt or something. :D
 
ah lol
 
It's cool case, literally, with like 6 fans
 
3:26 PM
@ShaWizDowArd for your entire house? ;p
 
Was quiet for several years until one fan semi broke and started making tons of noise
 
mine got only 2. one proc. and one for smps
 
@redhand yeah, it was... until it died
 
mine has 3, but 2 are 200mm
the other's 120mm, but I swapped it out for a noctua (they make really nice fans)
 
Now I have a cheap computer (bought it for $200) which can't run any games. lol
 
3:28 PM
ow
I'm probably going to upgrade once I have a stable job again
 
I am aiming for a mac book but the cost is huge
 
I have got 5 laptops
 
around $3K
 
my desktop's hitting 6 years, tho I'll be keeping the video card
and quite a few other bits
 
user315433
> We're closing down our community forums due to a little too much internet love. Find us on Stack Overflow and Slack bit.ly/2xMu6Qz pic.twitter.com/uTfOF6huUZ -- SilverStripe at 7:34 PM - 2 Oct 2017
 
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The article explains they closed down because of spam.
 
4:05 PM
I figured spam was more or less a solved problem
 
My stances are off today ....
 
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We have some experts on taking stances around.
 
True.
 
4:27 PM
I didn't realize I could be that controversial ....
 
> we have a blacklist in place on a number of words we don't want appearing in the HNQ titles
so that's the solution to prevent a question get into HNQ...
 
I feel that is only part of the solution ... but fair enough, that could work.
I assume those words do come from posts or edits that were rejected as rude/offensive?
 
user315433
4:45 PM
It's manual.
 
user315433
@NickStauner (and Kate), just FYI, we're implementing a very short blacklist in the next week or two. Initially, it'll just suppress posts with a few trigger terms in the titles from hot questions, but the team will be able to add terms as we encounter posts that cause distress, etc. — Jaydles ♦ May 14 '14 at 14:56
 
OK, fine then. If we don't want to show certain words on the HNQ I guess the same can be true for the audits being generated.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 1 out of 2): How do change format of a video? by GGSU on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): How do change format of a video? by GGSU on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Best way to download Youtube data by GGSU on superuser.com
 
user315433
5:16 PM
Do questions of the form "I've copy-pasted this SO answer without understanding anything in it, and it doesn't work. Please help." belong on meta SO? They are "meta" after all.
 
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(kidding)
 
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Also, at some point such questions may become to outnumber "original" questions.
 
6:16 PM
If you consider Stack Overflow as essentially a meta site for the official docs... Then we've already been there a while
 
6:49 PM
apk nexus meta.stackexchange.com/questions/301636/… /cc @sha @bart needs 2 more
 
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Thinking of revising my "candidate chart", specifically replacing CS with something else, as any serious candidate on a large site will have it near 40.
 
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^ current chart for Math. CS can fit in parentheses after the name, anyway.
 
user315433
This leaves the bubble size for something else... what?
 
Wow... horizontal bar is total votes?
What's the little blue dot?
And I think you could do with a smaller review scale, since none of them get even close to blue.
Oh, never mind, It's backwards... I was expecting blue to the the high value because it's on top.
 
user315433
6:53 PM
Horizontal is the smaller of (number of upvotes, number of downvotes). I like the candidates who use both sides of the arrow.
 
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Good point about the order of colors, I'll reverse that.
 
user315433
The size of the dot is current Candidate Score, and the smallest one ends up being a tiny anonymous dot, as they should (it's 12).
 
Maybe the size could be the number of total votes?
You have the candidate score already - in the brackets, right?
 
user315433
Yes, I added it in (and noticed it doesn't differentiate much).
 
user315433
Maybe the size could be reviews, and colors some sort of spectrum between up-voters and down-voters?
 
6:57 PM
I know that on many sites voting at all is a problem and I know users who refuse to down vote at all... which really pisses me off.
 
user315433
I know a moderator who does that. :)
 
So do I... and I bet they're not the same person.
 
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Jack is 4,302 : 83, while Zachary is 8,003 : 6,330.
 
user315433
Simply adding these numbers would hide information, hence the minimum.
 
I think that they've voted that much, even if little of it is downvotes is admirable and worthy of being part of the chart.
 
user315433
7:00 PM
Okay, I'll revise accordingly: horizontal = all votes, color = up/down ratio.
 
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I wish we knew their close/reopen stats, but they are not available easily (parsing them out of SEDE is a pain, and then it's only for posts that remain closed and not deleted).
 
So is this something that could be used for any site in the future?
 
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This is just a Google Spreadsheet in which I type numbers.
 
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I could share it, I suppose.
 
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But someone has to type the numbers anyway, so... may as well be me.
 
user315433
7:10 PM
Current challenge: convince Sheets to use some reasonable progression of colors, like hot/cold.
 
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Updated accordingly. I also added a fictitious 0 candidate to make tatan's dot less anonymous.
 
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Interesting how four of them are on the same line, and there is a gap where ZS could be.
 
7:30 PM
@rene deleted by the blue feet!
!!/status
 
@ShaWizDowArd Running since 19:30:36 UTC (1 minute, 19 seconds)
 
!!/blame
 
@ShaWizDowArd It's Sha Wiz Dow Ard's fault.
 
of course
!!/errorlog
@Michelle bed sheets? That can be awesome! :D
 
!!/blame
 
7:36 PM
@Narusan It's Narusan's fault.
 
That's a cool feature. Does it work in every chat?
 
@Narusan only where Smokey is present, yeah
It picks one of the users who interacted with it in random. (not picking from the room users)
!!/blame
 
@ShaWizDowArd It's Sha Wiz Dow Ard's fault.
 
So now it's only either you or me... @Narusan
Oh hey you're not in coma anymore? :D
 
I am, but only on Health.SE
 
user315433
7:39 PM
Sorry, I don't believe the Medical Science thing will go anywhere.
 
@Michelle Yeah, I noticed we're lacking supporters as well. It's my final attempt to defibrillate Health.SE
!!/blame
 
@Narusan It's Michelle's fault.
 
user315433
MathOverflow exists because of a few blog-related experts bringing a few others on board, and getting the ball rolling.
 
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They got some good publicity early on (again, mostly blogs).
 
7:41 PM
I'd be interested to start something like "Ask a physicist" -> "Ask a doctor" on Health.SE as an attempt to get votes for MedicalSciences, but there are no doctors around anymore (which is core of the problem)
@SmokeDetector Ha! Knew it :P
 
Oh... so it picks from the users who posted in the room
@Michelle you mean Health.SE?
 
@ShaWizDowArd I haven't really pulled through my comatose state though. I'm still active quite a lot because I can't really let go.
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Medical Sciences

Proposed Q&A site for professionals in medical and allied health fields, students of those professions, related academics, and others with a sound understanding of healthcare-related sciences.

Currently in definition.

 
oh
Good chance it will be closed as duplicate of Health.SE, no?
 
@Michelle We could start a blog or something like that (personal anecdotes from health professionals seem to be quite popular on the internet) but it wouldn't be like the new site
 
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> in my experience? Never seen it happen unless there are knowledgeable answerers there from the start. folks'll sign on to one-up someone they think is doing well already, but no one wants to join up to clean up a cesspool. chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4255437#4255437
 
7:45 PM
@Narusan health addiction? ;)
@Michelle you can just post the link and it will onebox
Nov 29 '15 at 1:49, by Shog9
in my experience? Never seen it happen unless there are knowledgeable answerers there from the start.
oh wait
You know that. Why didn't you do it?
 
user315433
Yeah, that's why.
 
user315433
You got one line out of two.
 
heh
New behavior? (aka bug?)
 
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By design. Those are two messages.
 
ohh lol
 
7:47 PM
Just don't tell @Michelle how to do things better. This is it, deal with it.
 
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But I wanted both, and two consecutive oneboxes don't look that great.
 
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@ShaWizDowArd Robert could close it, but he's well aware of the problems Health has, so I imagine he's willing to let the proposal live on the remote chance it brings something.
 
@Michelle hope you're right...
 
@ShaWizDowArd Ideally, this is what we imagined: Bob has a health related issue and asks at Health.SE. The post is obviously closed as "requesting personal advice". Bob then visits his doctor Alice, hears he is suffering from a Severe Alogia Disorder. Bob comes back to Health.SE and asks what the Severe Alogia Disorder is, what its implications are and so on.
 
7:49 PM
Personally I'm not sure I'll waste time on this. 99% chance it will fail anyway... is the 1% worth all those efforts?
It might.. but dunno
 
[cont'd] Alice then reads some papers about the Severe Alogia Disorder (even doctors can't know everything, and it's always good to update outdated knowledge) and asks about something she only remembers from University on MedicalSciences.SE to see whether she understood something correctly.
@ShaWizDowArd So do I.
 
@Narusan worth posting this in area 51 discussion zone and link to the proposal then, so it won't be closed.
 
We've tried hard, very hard to save Health.SE, but a new policy would mean thousands of old questions are suddenly off-topic, so we went with a new site that's different in its audience
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Q: What’s an easy way to differentiate between MedicalSciences and Health?

NarusanThis site has originated from here, as a daughter of Health.SE in a way. When planned our scope to be the following; https://health.meta.stackexchange.com/q/776/8212 Nevertheless, we should come up with an easy way to tell if a question is better suited for Health than MedicalSciences. I wou...

 
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People looking at your Health profile might be concerned about the top network question being Make NPC death most dramatic
 
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What kind of medical information to expect from someone who's into dramatic death?
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7:54 PM
@Michelle Well, I haven't told anyone (yet) that NPC stands for aNnoying Patient's Cousin.
My top tags on Health are smoking, e-cigarettes, masturbation and sex. That tells you a lot about the site as well
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@Narusan oh. Good!
@Narusan rofl
priceless
@Narusan you are becoming the new @Bart. :D
 
I know. And there are quite a few answers I spent hours writing that have received absolutely no attention so far. I've tried to counterbalance the issue with bounties, but I that only works for other users, not myself.
@ShaWizDowArd I feel like I need a history lesson about @Bart.
 
@Narusan easy. It's someone who can turn Words into Stars.
There was a time that every message he posted was starred.
@Bart is a Living Legend. :P
 
@ShaWizDowArd To be honest, following the proposal, reading our 20 example questions and upvoting questions you think are interesting or would be good to be answered can actually help the proposal quite a lot. As in the comment @Michelle posted, users don't wan't to step onto a sinking boat, but if we gain some momentum, the idea might actually survive.
By the way @ShaWizDowArd, is it intentional that your profile picture strongly resembles that of @Catija?
 
@Narusan Two people can't both have small children?
 
8:04 PM
Was just wondering if there's anything we should know... :P Maybe all babies look the same to the untrained eye. Of course both of your babies are especially pretty and cute!
 
@Narusan lol... think I was first but not sure... unlike @Michelle and @Elias, neither of us (@Catija and myself) change avatar and/or names to match each other. ;)
Though it can be funny to do... hmm....
Also big difference is, that only I got a self picture. :)
(there is face in the original image, imgur cropped it when making the smaller versions used by SE)
 
@ShaWizDowArd I see. While we're talking about avatars, why is it not possible to change your Area51 avatar? I always get redirected to the gravatar site
 
@Narusan will probably do, but the real challenge will be to pass the private beta
 
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@Narusan Nothing is possible on Area 51, and nobody knows why.
 
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Actually, some know: because it's broken.
 
8:11 PM
!!/blame
 
@Narusan It's Sha Wiz Dow Ard's fault.
 
@Narusan it's a very old site (Area 51) so it's still stuck in the past when Stack Overflow forced everyone to use only Gravatar. (before SE used imgur to host images and avatars)
 
@Narusan that's how you change your avatar on Area51: you change the Gravatar associated with your email.
 
@Narusan I've always included my hippo in my profile image and when Ben came along, I added him to it. Shadow and I don't really interact much.
 
@Catija we are now!
Hello @Catija
 
8:12 PM
@Shog9 ah, I don't have a Gravatar associated with my email, that's why probably
 
And comments on MSE...
 
@Narusan it's ok. I don't think less of you for it.
 
@ShaWizDowArd I used to come to the den a bit... but that was a while back.
 
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Q: Remove Gravatar requirement from Area 51, Please?

CatijaI'm not asking that you merge the avatars on Area 51 with the rest of the Avatar system... I understand that there's not any interest in "improving" Area 51, so if this gets declined - I'll just keep the generic one. If it's still a separate Avatar list and I have to change it in both places, I'm...

@Nar ^
 
(I do. I totally think less of him for it. But don't tell him.)
 
8:13 PM
@ShaWizDowArd ... oldies but goodies.
 
See? We interact via comments. @Cat
 
@ShaWizDowArd I'm not saying that we've never interacted. :D My intention was to point out that it's not been enough of an interaction to collude over our profile images.
 
@Catija well, Den is now... different.
@Catija hehe, true
Though I have no clue what started the "interaction" between Andrew and Normal Human.
 
@ShaWizDowArd Yeah, I saw that link to it last week... that's too bad. The word association games were fun.
 
@Catija hmm? What link?
There is still WAG in there, but just different people now. :)
 
8:16 PM
Another good share of my answers with high upvotes are:
- How often should one masturbate?
- Why don't babies drown in the womb?
- Is it okay to clean penis with soap
- Active Ingredient of DIO that increases sexual arousal
- Does frequent masturbation decrease testosterone level in blood
I guess something is inherently wrong with either Health.SE, the internet, or both.
 
@Narusan both
Still better than Health section of Yahoo! Answers
 
@ShaWizDowArd Have you seen this one? health.stackexchange.com/questions/13819/…
Look at the edit history of the question...
 
@Narusan huh. Saw the question in front page, didn't bother to click as it's a "duh?" question... lol
 
@ShaWizDowArd https://health.stackexchange.com/revisions/f5a2439c-524e-4b1e-96ed-0c7bdc2e105f/view-source
Seriously, what's *wrong* with the world?!
 
@ShaWizDowArd I don't remember now, to be honest.
 
user315433
8:20 PM
@ShaWizDowArd Probably something related to chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6373602#6373602
 
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(fat fingered ping)
 
@Narusan lol, way too many details in the original question.... why on earth we should care about how he did it....
 
@Desire There was a chat message around somewhere recently about not putting up with bad behavior in chat... I thought it was starred but I can't find it now.
 
@ShaWizDowArd I'm guessing 13, skipping the SexEd classes in school...
 
@Narusan age? Yeah, probably... or a troll. Mentioning of the mother hints as much.
 
But we can't really know for sure. o_O
 
@Desire did I do something wrong?
 
@rene Smoke Detector says it's @Michelle's fault, not yours
 
@Catija oh.. well, Den isn't shut down yet... I gave proper warnings, but welcome any new users there.
 
@Narusan that is reassuring ...
 
user315433
8:25 PM
@rene No, I cited the message as an indication of something that went wrong there in recent past.
 
@ShaWizDowArd :6381933 There's a bunch of comments deleted now. "can you be 100% sure" - "just look at my answer" - "but can you say with absolute certainty" - "just read it, okay?" - "but is there no chance". After a string of 20 comments (aided from Carey and DoctorWhom) I tried to be philosophical ("what even is 100% certainty? How can you know that you know what you know?") but the comments didn't stop. At some point it was time for a mod-hammer
 
@ShaWizDowArd You did say something about renaming it, I think?
 
@Elias time to change name and avatar!
@Narusan who is Michelle?
@Narusan surprised moderator came along, there was a time without active moderators there
 
@ShaWizDowArd Are you guys doing that on purpose to confuse new users? @Desire How would one have a chance to know who's who?
 
@Narusan I change name about once every couple of years, on average
 
8:28 PM
@ShaWizDowArd michaelpri is studying and quite busy, JohnP does his best but it's impossible to cope without community moderation, and apparently there's another moderator I've never met on Health.SE
@ShaWizDowArd oopsie, wrong ping
 
@Narusan lol
@Catija I did rename it :)
 
We tried to rename Health.SE, but with no effect. There are so many users coming by asking bad questions with no research effort whatsoever and requesting personal medical advice ("how come if your site's called health that we can't discuss my health and things that are entirely between me and my doctor") because of the site name, but we didn't have an alternative. We came up with MedSci, but it would have changed the scope too much.
 
@Narusan true
 
Reply to your own comments
 
@Narusan If you mean chat messages, I understand that you can actually do it... you just have to know the message ID.
@Catija I think this works?
And it does.
 
8:36 PM
I see
 
@Narusan I replied to another message but edited the message number to be the one I get when I hover over my message.
And destroyed.
Funny, Art put in an auto ping for anything that Smokey hits on IPS but I didn't get anything... maybe since I'm not in Charcoal?
 
user315433
8:51 PM
@Catija Pings are created for a specific room. Unless it was created for Tavern, you wouldn't get it here.
 
@Desire Yeah, I'm figuring it out in charcoal... apparently they lost a bunch of the ping requests.
 
@ShaWizDowArd If CogSci, which is somewhat a subset of MedSci, made the jump into public beta, I don’t see why MedSci shouldn’t. Oh dear, that’s gonne be fun sorting out which questions go to CogSci and which to MedSci if that ever emerges.
 
@Narusan A lot of cogsci is "in your head" if you will... even the physical stuff is affecting how you think about things, right? Seems like medsci would be strictly related to physical concerns? Or, considering Robert's comment on my answer to a recent MSE question, just roll them all into one. :P
 
@Catija Psychology is a part of medicine, so MedicalSciences would include psychology. What about neurology? Where would that go... Haven’t been active on CogSci a lot so I don’t know what their main traffic is.
 
9:21 PM
Why‘s the Happy Hour in 3 hours? That’s unmanageable for Europeans...
 
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@Narusan Happy Dreams for Europeans
 
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Which happens to be my current reading, incidentally.
 
user315433
Chat doesn't rewrite Amazon links to be SO affiliate, lost revenue there.
 
@Desire Thanks.
Good night, sweet prince,
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!
Incidentially, the last time I ages this message @Hamlet popped up in that chat on Healh.SE only a few hours later. That was a great coincidence.
 
user315433
9:38 PM
Was this Aviation election closest in SE history?
 
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The winning margin: 68.947 over 68.579
 
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Less than half of a vote.
 
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(For once, I didn't both to grind rep and vote, for better or worse.)
 
user315433
In Round 2, SMS was ahead by more than 2 votes.
 
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