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user315433

00:20

Not sure if spam, but naa/vlq in any case

user315433

Now the fake note business is clearly spam

Shog9

00:35

@ShaWizDowArd ...and there's that pedantry again... ;-)

user202362

01:04

let's talking about grasshoppers and locusts ...

user202362

02:27

user202362

random news day

Elias

03:17

@Michelle clicking "Locate me" on the location input shows a notification if "boards.greenhouse.io wants to know your location".

user202362

04:15

@Michelle there are better ways for resume harvesting

user315433

04:59

@Elias I don't know what's the point. It's not like "Location" is a difficult field to fill out on a job application.

user315433

05:22

@Michelle TIL Timothy Hutton and Sean Penn were born on consecutive days, 1960-08-16 and 1960-08-17. And were in two pretty good movies together, Taps and The Falcon and the Snowman... well, an 80s marathon, then.

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Shog9 pedantry is my middle name! changing name to Sha Ped Dow Antry Wiz Ard

oops Wiz fell away, sec

@Telkitty do grasshoppers live in grass? Do they hop? Or hope?

user202362

@Michelle silly, it's for the likes of bears and vagabonds - if you met a raccoon, and it expressed its burning desire to work for stackoverflow (of course it's not because SO offers limited gourmet food at lunch) and the raccoon didn't know its current location ...

user202362

Elias

05:43

user202362

that looks like a tiny hawk

rene

06:39

→ 15 messages moved to Chimney

uhoh

@JonEricson thanks for the conversation, though “you say you wanted removed” and “got your answer” are not the way I see it. Anyway there are probably plenty of older questions and discussions I should look at first.

Journeyman Geek

hm, under 10k steps today before lunch. quiet day

JamesENL

You need to journey more

Journeyman Geek

06:58

;p

(I'm almost at 12k now.)

SmokeDetector

07:10

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Given a linked list which is sorted, how will you insert in sorted way by Dora Britton on christianity.SE

Albzi

Morning

Elias

Afternoon

@SmokeDetector o lost sheep who got stranded on a linked list, come here to the right way...

Journeyman Geek

07:27

"Jesus saves, but how does he sort?"

Derpy

07:56

Assassin's Kittens!

►

SmokeDetector

08:12

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Plastic predator bird props --- Are they effective? How to mount them? by Shen Sunshine on ham.SE

Sagar V

wow this site is great pointerpointer.com

Mithrandir

09:01

@jasonc - you around?

I'm using Top Bar for Chat Rooms and Stack Overflow Extras (SOX).

For some reason, this is showing up, but only in the Teachers' Lounge:

The SOX gears don't show up on, e.g., Charcoal HQ or here.

Sagar V

Last seen is 7d ago. I think he's too busy. He is not active that much for few weeks

going to hit 2K flag on SO

Mithrandir

congrats

Sagar V

tq

rene

09:25

@Mithrandir if you open the dev console of the browser, any errors?

Chat has changed a bit for the mentoring support so they moved some internal cheese

Mithrandir

rene

Oh, only a couple ...

@Mithrandir if you click on that VM75:1161 link, does that bring you in the Chat topbar script?

Mithrandir

no, I don't think so

I don't know, I can't understand a think in here :P

rene

@Mithrandir scroll to the top of that file, looks like it is the SOX script

Mithrandir

...and?

rene

09:33

hold on, I need to install sox as well, chat top bar works for me without errors

@Mithrandir make another screen shot?

Mithrandir

rene

The next thing is that I ask for your credentials so I can try it myself ....

Mithrandir

nope, can't do that ;P

rene

almost succeeded ...

Bhargav Rao

gimme your fkey, that's enough

Albzi

09:38

So er

-3

Q: PHP array to notation with []

Is there any PHP predefined function that transform an array to this notation: Example: From this Array ( [0] => Array ( [key1] => 10 [key2] => 11 ) [1] => Array ( [key1] => 12 [key2] => 13 ) ) To this [ [10,11] , [12,13] ] Note: I m looking for a predefined function...

I'm confused why this is marked as duplicate

It's not a great question by any means

But it's not a duplicate

It was originally tagged with the JavaScript tag, so maybe Deceze thought it was a duplicate

But they didn't actually read the question, because it had nothing to do with JS, just badly tagged

Mithrandir

Albzi

What

rene

@Mithrandir I have no repro: i.sstatic.net/hsvGi.png it must be one of the other US you have running that make it go boom.

Albzi

What is wrong with that keyboard

cazc_941

Is there a way to get a graph or something of active users over time for a stack site?

Mithrandir

09:43

@Albzi Bhargav asked for my f key ;)

rene

@cazc_941 from SEDE, based on creatiiondate?

Albzi

Oh I see

What's with the other mess

Mithrandir

מה?

cazc_941

@rene uh... I don't know

I just want to see if more users are using a site now than say, a year ago

rene

@cazc_941 that is kind of hard. We don't have timeseries in the public datasets

cazc_941

09:45

Hm

I see. That's okay

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Is quantum mechanics truly probabilistic? by blomoto on physics.SE

rene

@cazc_941 so I can tell you when a user created their account and when they were last active, as it is today.

Albzi

Oh

Guys

my proxy wont allow me to go to chat

chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/152136/…

This chat

If Deceze is in there, can someone just say we'll agree to disagree

and leave it there

My proxy prevents me from joining any chats that isn't this one

Or redirect him here?

Although this isn't the place

rene

@Albzi I've linked them to that message

Albzi

Thanks @rene, I appreciate it

I can't find the original post now either to comment on it.

rene

09:53

@Albzi the link is in the room one-box

Albzi

What's room one-box?

Oh the chat window?

I can't view it because proxy blocks it automatically

rene

@Albzi here it is: stackoverflow.com/questions/45731341/php-array-to-notation-with

Albzi

Thank you!

If deceze has been linked here though i'll leave that for now :)

rene

No problem, Find a better workplace, where they don't have time and resources to spend on useless things

Albzi

I've only been working here since November

So under a year

After though i'll be looking elsewhere :)

Not just for that reason though lol

rene

10:02

in Discussion on question by abinax: PHP array to notation with [] on Stack Overflow Chat, 3 mins ago, by deceze

@rene Noted :)

this feels a bit weird

I'm done acting as the postman

I'll ring twice

Mithrandir

Hmm, the SOX gear is only showing once now.

Odd.

Albzi

Haha

Thanks @rene

Sagar V

10:21

lol

whoo 2K flags

Mithrandir

11:17

!!/wut

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@ShaWizDowArd It's Mithrandir's fault.

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector Thanks ^_-

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@SagarV off by 100

@Albzi who is your ~~daddy~~ master today?

:D

user202362

12:08

@ShaWizDowArd such a kinky question ~blushes~ (though albeit thick skin) ... maybe not blush, it's sunburn instead

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

I really wonder what happens when tanned people blush.

Elias

The R component of RGB increases.

Sagar V

12:28

and what will happen to opacity?

Albzi

I am @ShaWizDowArd

Sagar V

:(

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Albzi so what is the size of my... nose?

:D

Sagar V

36

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Elias but it's already increased..

Sagar V

12:38

:)

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@SagarV false!

Sagar V

or 34

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

And you are not @Albzi!

Albzi

It's the size of your shoe lace

Sagar V

I am not familiar with other sizes :(

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

12:39

@Albzi buh, I have bigger feet!!

But @Bart got the biggest feet around, probably.

May 9 at 13:09, by Bart

@ShadowWizard given the size of my feet, a lost shoe wouldn't really go anywhere, nor fit anyone else :D

Albzi

Wow

Bart is my master

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Size 50: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6001651#6001651

So now I see. @Albzi worships feet. Nice! :D

hides behind @Bart's feet and scurries away

Albzi

No not feet

Shoe laces

Sagar V

my shoe laces are 51"

do worship me :P

Albzi

I'm only joking I have got no idea

Sagar V

12:47

going to become Albzi's master

Albzi

I literally am bored at my desk right now

With boring work to do

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@SagarV prove!

Albzi

I don't want anyone to be my master

I just want to be loved

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Albzi tough love

We all need that sometimes.

Sagar V

@Andy Can you check is there any deleted answer by this user(with css tag and having upvotes)? it is to check whether an issue should be tagged with bug or support

Derpy

12:48

any way to use two term in a chat search? It seems the current filter works by searching the exact phrase

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Derpy nope, tried that.

@SagarV hehe, are you afraid of other mods? ;)

Sagar V

no. At present, only Andy is here

Derpy

@ShaWizDowArd as expected. Doesn't surprise me.

Andy

@SagarV Why don't you be more specific? Many users have deleted posts - either because they deleted them or because they have been roomba'd. What issue, exactly, do you want to tag correctly?

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@SagarV but @BhargavRao is still pingable, and who knows might arrive faster. Being in the room might just mean someone left a tab open, but won't check it for days. :)

Sagar V

12:51

@Andy nope. I raised an issue here but if he earned and then lost the tag badge, it should be retagged with bug. Otherwise support is enough

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

oh, Andy is really here. lol

Bhargav Rao

me too

Albzi

He came because I asked him

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

hehe

Albzi

and Bhargav

Got theem on speed dial

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

12:52

stackoverflow.com/search?q=user%3A3210868+deleted%3A1+%5Bcss%5D /cc @Andy @Bhargav

Sagar V

Bhargav left when he got the fkey

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@SagarV you mean כ key

Albzi

I've seen more sense out of letters in my alphabetti spaghetti

That keyboard doesn't make sense to me

Sagar V

yup. that one

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Albzi standard QWERTY keyboard.

Albzi

12:54

I have one of them I thought

Sagar V

@ShaWizDowArd that search with deleted:1 give me 70 results and the thing is I still don't have 10K rep

Albzi

I'm so confused

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

QWERTY

QWERTY is a keyboard layout for Latin script. The name comes from the order of the first six keys on the top left letter row of the keyboard (Q W E R T Y). The QWERTY design is based on a layout created for the Sholes and Glidden typewriter and sold to Remington in 1873. It became popular with the success of the Remington No. 2 of 1878, and remains in widespread use. == History == The QWERTY layout was devised and created in the early 1870s by Christopher Latham Sholes, a newspaper editor and printer who lived in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In October 1867, Sholes filed a patent application for his...

Albzi

I have a qwerty keyboard

Bhargav Rao

BTW, The number of deleted posts, or the exact ones is kinda a classified info and can't be divulged in public. I don't see as to why you need info about whether they have deleted posts or not.

Albzi

12:55

Just not hieroglyphs that came with it

Mithrandir

those aren't hieroglyphs

Sagar V

3 mins ago, by Sagar V

@Andy nope. I raised an issue here but if he earned and then lost the tag badge, it should be retagged with bug. Otherwise support is enough

Mithrandir

that's Hebrew

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@SagarV because it ignores the "deleted:1", so gives back all of his css posts.

Andy

@SagarV You can lose tag badges. ref

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

12:55

With 10k rep, it will just show your own deleted posts

Albzi

Oh

Apologies

Bhargav Rao

@SagarV Tag badges can be lost if posts are deleted.

Albzi

My qwerty keyboard didn't come with Hebrew on it

Sagar V

@BhargavRao yes. But in that case, the next tag badge should be downgraded.

Albzi

That's why I didn't recognise those symbols

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

12:56

@BhargavRao we just need link to single deleted answer, which will prove a theory.

No list or anything.

Albzi

So is that backwards c an f in Hebrew?

Sagar V

@Andy agree but if that's the case, the next tag badge should be changed from silver to bronze

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Deleted posts are not shown in the profile page, so most likely answer with +2 got deleted while that user had the bronze badge and the silver tracked. Ideally, this should trigger reset of the badge tracker, but it's not. /cc @Cai. — Sha Wiz Dow Ard 13 mins ago

Andy

I think that's a fairly insignificant edge case.

Sagar V

If you can confirm he earned it once, I can tag my question with bug

Bhargav Rao

12:57

@SagarV The next badge views are heavily cached. Now the next badge shown is a different one.

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Just want to make "most likely" into "that actually happened"

@Albzi ohh, you mean the symbols. lol

Sagar V

this is the issue

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Albzi no, the actual "f" is "פ". The letter "כ" is... kind of "c" or "k".

Sagar V

Albzi

Yeah the symbols

Ooh ok

Very confusing to me

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

12:59

yup

Sagar V

the public rep change, 1 downvote today and before that, the rep change happened on July 18

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Same will be for me seeing letters of other language. :)

Albzi

True I suppose

Bhargav Rao

@SagarV tag it with [bug], if it's really not a bug, then the developers will add a [status-by-design] tag there.

Albzi

The thing is though if it's another language most of the time the letters are still prenounced the same

or similar

but with like umlauts or something

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

13:00

@Albzi if there are matching letters, yes. Some don't have any match.

Albzi

Piñata <- or like that fancy thing above the n

Which you can kind of guess

It's very interesting

But I don't understand any of it

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Albzi well you're a חד קרן :D

user315433

13:27

Ask Different is 7 years old today. Most-viewed question of the year: Verification Failed. There was an error in connecting to your Apple ID

Sagar V

14:55

quora.com/…

Derpy

15:07

@SagarV should we be happy or scared?

Sagar V

15:29

??

tripleee

vandalism islam.stackexchange.com/a/42968/19799

@Albzi the reason some orthographies use accents is because they need to distinguish between sounds or uses, or sometimes meanings. There are certainly cases where accents do not matter for pronounciation, but umlauts speficially do indicate a significant sound change of a particular kind (but you are probably using the term approximatively - Ö in Österrech is not an umlaut, linguistically, for example)

(though the sound it represents is generally speaking similar to the same sound when it was produced by a proper umlaut; either way, clearly distinct from O)

if the accent didn't matter, it would not be used - cf Occam's razor

Elias

15:46

I guess it sounds the same for non-native. I mean, they won't pay attention since they don't use it...

user315433

Surely you would hear a difference if a native German speaker next to you pronounced a and ä.

Elias

Like, I gave myself a nickname ATè. Without the accent ATe, it would be pronounced differently...

tripleee

15:58

@Elias what sort of change the accent signals and whether it sounds the same to the speaker of a different language depends on a significant number of factor, including but not limited to the listener's language

but the German umlauts definitely sound quite different to an English speaker than their ablaut counterparts

the change in French between a and á is basically not audible, it disambiguates on a semantic level

rene

@tripleee never heard of ablaut before, nice.

tripleee

not sure I'm using it entirely correctly though ...

rene

@tripleee they seem kind of related, but I'm not a linguist so ...

user315433

16:20

Better not ask at Linguistics, then. That site is scary... "How does nonconcatenative morphology of the Semitic type (consonantal roots, vocalic templates + affixes) arise diachronically?"

user315433

I understand a few words here... like "how", "of", "the"...

tripleee

2

Q: What's the difference between Umlaut and Ablaut?

This is a follow-up question of What is an “Ablaut”?, and I was going to answer this in a comment there, but thought asking a new question and answering that properly might be the better way to go.

grammar etymology

so no, my usage above wasn't really at all correct

rene

@tripleee well, never too old to learn a thing or two ...

Tim Stone

18:05

@JeremyBanks Now that it's driven me crazy enough to look, it seems possible it will given that the behaviour is caused by the plugin special-casing the user agent string |:

Luckily the problem function is global so yay userscripts

Anonymous

19:04

@TimStone IIRC I also saw it on chrome stable when I enabled experimental web platform features, which suggested it might have been feature detecting something that wasn't fully ready and trying to use it. Maybe it's doing both.

Tim Stone

Yeah, they deprecated it

It's wontfix that body.scrollTop doesn't work anymore, which is what the conditional selects for webkit-y UA strings

documentElement.scrollTop works fine in Chrome, though, so I think the conditional is just unnecessary now (and isn't in more recent versions of the jquery.scrollTo plugin)

TylerH

I like the A/B testing icon changes for the review icon on Stack Overflow: i.sstatic.net/lLaIN.jpg It's much more obvious as an 'attention needed/desired' icon

user315433

Augur "made it", mod nominations accepted

user315433

Which is incidentally q/12, likely the lowest ever Id for official mod nomination thread.

user315433

Their meta is the least used I've seen yet.

TylerH

19:17

Seems like a very niche site so it makes sense

bjb568

19:34

@Derpy :D

Ēriks Ešenvalds - Only in Sleep

►

I'm learning this.

user315433

@TylerH But won't it be always on? After seeing the same red dot for a few weeks, you don't really see it anymore.

canon

@TylerH it's probably good that something draws attention to that icon apart from its "wtf is that icon supposed to be" quality.

still

I'm not a fan of the cryptic ui cues. What's so wrong with text?

TylerH

19:54

@Michelle I asked about it on Meta.SO meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/355233/…

@canon People don't read things. It is known.

3

(I like text)

canon

@TylerH ... it is known. :/

burn me down: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/355236/…

I'm immune on meta.SO!

I'd be less cavalier on meta.SE :P

rene

20:38

@canon done ...

canon

@rene lol, did you really? MY PRIDE

rene

At least I left a comment ...

user315433

@Michelle Currently the thresholds are based on 90% of the max hourly value over the past couple weeks; we'll adjust those based on the initial test results in an effort to determine if that'll help with prioritization and, uh, indicator blindness.

canon

:P

user315433

Why stop at red, use all terror alert level colors.

canon

20:44

@rene how great would it be if they actually implemented a freehand circle as an indicator...

user315433

If neglected for a long time, review icon will become larger, start floating around the screen, cover the answers you are trying to read, and finally flash you with goatse.

canon

@Michelle it'd get more clicks if you turned it into goatse right now

user315433

Yeah, but it looks like a red dot because of low resolution.

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