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1:00 PM
@rene maybe you can help?
 
checking
 
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user202362
chicken
 
hehe, both of us posted.
Oh well.
 
thank you both :)
 
1:05 PM
Amazing how people don't even bother to look in their code before coming to SO.
 
Well, neither of them were really "witty" so guess it's for the best. Such person needs to hear same thing several times to understand. :)
 
That will work ;)
 
user202362
not from the university of chickens?
 
1:08 PM
@M.A.R. atleast we could have given some suggestions or show best site to ask. Not being so rude. :/
 
user202362
washington has many chicken farms?
 
@Telkitty to feed kittens?
 
user202362
it's an article about the chickens, except the author is not named chicken and the university is not for chickens
 
user202362
 
@Fawad no we don't. We do not want to encourage off topic questions.
 
user202362
1:11 PM
highly suspicious
 
@rene got some nice pre-made comment he's using, but other than that we really shouldn't do anything except downvote, close, and delete. @Fawad
 
@ShadowWizard Ending credits
 
But for some reason today Oded is nuking those questions before we get chance to do anything. :)
@Derpy so you're voiced by Tabitha St. Germain?
@Telkitty source code also available: code.call-cc.org
> The source code for some(*) CHICKEN extensions (eggs) can be fetched from the Subversion revision control system
 
user202362
lol
 
So eggs extend chickens? That's new.
 
1:16 PM
@ShadowWizard yep, that is also why I am able to become Rarity to scold you. Same voice actor. Wasn't that obvious?
 
user202362
class chicken {
/*blah*/
}
class egg extends chicken {
/*blah blah*/
}
 
/* tock tock */
 
@Telkitty What comes before? The egg or the chicken?
 
user202362
compiler doesn't allow circular extends
 
@Derpy chicken,if egg then who would make it warm? (Sorry for bad English)
 
1:24 PM
> don't click the link
we all know what will happen ...
 
According to science,there were some chicken type animals,once mutation occur and we get chikens
 
@Fawad indeed, egg came before chicken
 
@Stijn not chicken egg it would be egg of different parent.
 
depends on your definition of "chicken egg":
a) an egg laid by a chicken
b) an egg from which a chicken will be born
 
1:47 PM
@Derpy testing
O:,it pinged you,but in above comment it didn't showed my name.
 
@Fawad this is a reply to older post
 
But it didn't showed my name when you pinged
 
this is a reply
on multiple lines
The inconsistency was already reported. Closed as "we don't care"
(trad: do not try to fight for this fix, it isn't worth your time)
 
Nice policy..
 
nope, not nice. Necessary maybe, but not nice
 
1:55 PM
@Derpy whay worse can happen if not fixed?
 
Not a bug, so nothing to fix. When more than one line, they want to show the lines all aligned. Having the name will ruin that, and make it appear worse. This is a design/UI choice.
Though I agree there are real bugs "closed" as "we don't care" aka "meh", which sometimes can be irritating.
 
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@ShadowWizard which is just an elegant way to say : switch to a monospace font and I will trust you when you say you want to "show the lines all aligned"
 
@Derpy aligned, not same length when having the same amount of characters. Two different things. :)
 
if they are going to destroy my ascii arts attempts with a non-monospace font, they may as well go the extra mile and not align the lines
 
2:56 PM
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@AndrewT. nope, doesn't help
 
I thought it would help...
 
3:13 PM
@ShadowWizard Why did you miss me today?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ of course, I miss everyone every day. ;)
@Fawad by the way if you love to play with bots, feel free to join the Den, there are fun bots in there, which can flip, wake, kill, and even lick.
(and one can even pee.)
(but it's gross.)
 
Give me link
 
Ready?
On your marks...
 
Hell yeah,I want to disturb them
 
lol

Wizards Den

Place for all wizards to share spells, words, and having fun w...
Keep in mind... once you post there, you're pingable forever! evil laugh :D
 
3:29 PM
@ShadowWizard #ping-me-if-you-can
 
@Derpy can't ping @Derpy but can ping your former identity. Just did. ;)
oh wait, Derpy was a bot in Den, right? checking
haha! I did it.
in Shadow's Den, 24 secs ago, by Shadow Wizard
@Derpy here is your ping!
pinged.
not here, here it's trivial.
@Derpy wasn't in Den for over a year.
So he thought he's safe. :D
oh hey anyone played this game?
 
could be a really bad tileset for Dwarf Fortress if you squint a little
in which case those dragons would be going to cause a lot of Fun.
 
3:44 PM
lol
think that game pre-dates Dwarf Fortress
I played it when I was 14 or so, and it wasn't new.
AT machine, EGA screen.
 
When do we learn its name?
 
DOS, of course.
@JanDvorak when you ask
;)
 
What's that game?
 
Champions of Krynn is the first in a three-part series of Dragonlance Advanced Dungeons & Dragons "Gold Box" role-playing video games. The game was released in 1990. The highest graphics setting supported in the MS-DOS version was EGA graphics. It also supported the Adlib sound card and either a mouse or joystick. The game can still be run with an MS-DOS emulator such as DOSBox. == Plot == After a prologue set at the Inn of the Last Home in Solace, the adventure begins at an outpost near Throtl, the capital city of the Hobgoblins. The party soon meets a group of Baaz Draconians ambushing some good...
 
3:46 PM
Thanks
 
Man... I miss that game. Might play it again some day. :D
 
It's ancientware, so go ahead :-)
 
Think I tried once with DOSbox, didn't work well. :(
 
Will you stream?
 
@JanDvorak stream?
 
3:48 PM
As in a let's play
 
@JanDvorak together? Doubt such a game has such feature.... ;)
 
@JanDvorak huh! Never heard that term!
status-never-stop-learning
Well yeah, can take screenshots while playing again. ;)
I took several screenshots once, don't remember where they are, if at all.
I had strong party.
 
@JanDvorak oh, wait, now Dwarf Fortress runs on mac?
 
It does
 
4:03 PM
I could try again.
 
4:28 PM
@Fawad What's so rude about quick moderation?
 
5:00 PM
Did we ever had sponsored tags being blacklisted/burninated: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/345880/… ?
 
yup
but... I'm not wild about getting rid of this one
 
I thought so ...
 
paypal having multiple APIs is a bit different from, say, Microsoft having multiple products
 
Yeah, I think the synonym request made much more sense: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/345790/cleaning-up-paypal
 
more akin to saying, "we need to burninate [android] in favor of specific subsystem tags"
 
5:03 PM
I did burninate android ...
 
I'd sooner kill [ios] than [android]
 
Was physics.SE in maintenance few minutes ago?
 
@Fawad And it's not in maintenance now?
 
in The h Bar on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by Yashas Samaga
I saw a maintenance messsage for 1 minute :|
 
I'm not that evil. .... ROFLOL
 
5:12 PM
I'm not. No really
 
5:23 PM
sure, sure ...
 
user315433
 
5:40 PM
I don't feel meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/345882 is a duplicate at all, and Servy's being a weenie. If anybody here feels the same way I could use a reopen vote or two. Or not, if you disagree.
 
I'm with Servy
 
You believe the etiquette rules for main and meta sites are the same?
 
@JasonC No??
 
Servy apparently does, and rene, too.
 
@JasonC I'd also say they are.
 
5:52 PM
So voting means the same thing? And discussion questions aren't valid on meta, since they aren't valid on the main site?
 
@JasonC No, voting is different, but voting doesn't fall under etiquette.
 
Main and meta are entirely different. And I fail to see how asking about a specific action for a specific situation on meta has anything to do with dodging downvotes by reposting answers on the main site.
At most if Servy feels that it's not appropriate on the meta site, that would be appropriate material for an answer, not a hammered close of a question that isn't related to mine and doesn't answer my question.
 
@JasonC Well, you're experienced enough to know what you should do if you think that's not a dupe. Edit your question.
 
how about a cv-pls?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Not only did I already edit it, I also can't think of a way to be any clearer. Any suggestions?
 
6:08 PM
@JasonC Which question are we talking about? Your last meta.SE post seems to be doing fine
 
@M.A.R. An MSO post.
 
Ahh
 
I don't want to talk about it much more right now there's no reason to start a debate in here. We'll see what ends up happening to it. I don't really have any more points to add so it's all in the universe's hands now.
 
-43
Q: Why is it not ok to respond to an invalid argument without getting the thread locked?

gattsbrI've given a valid argument as to why a comment on my thread isn't correct, and my argument was simply deleted and my thread locked. This isn't right. @BoltClock♦︎ You need to provide me a reason for deleting my argument, but not the offensive non constructive comment too. http://stackoverflow....

What's not to love about meta.SO?
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@M.A.R. Lol
It's always entertaining.
But it's a good thing, even when people don't agree. It's nice to see folks passionate about a community.
@M.A.R. Also, I have no respect for that space-less JasonC.
 
7:17 PM
Why were the earnings outliers removed from the survey results? How many were there?
 
Another one for reopen review: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/345825/… (this time I'm on Servy's side of the fence, amusingly).
IMO, the OP asked specifically about a revision challenge process and made the mistake of giving a specific example, which Braiam seems to have hyperfocused on and turned the whole discussion into something about whether or not the OP's edit was valid or the edited question should have been closed, ignoring the real question.
 
Meh, a lot of moderation of meta.SO seemed too extreme to me.
People really love closing something they don't like.
 
We're all the moderators so... can't be too critical.
But it hasn't been a fine day for gold badge holders on MSO. And Braiam is... off the rails, I don't know why.
@Servy "Those statements aren't the entirety of the guidelines on how to edit" then, where are the guidelines? This is too frustrating Servy, GET FACTS OR GET OUT! Both are on the help center under Privilege > Editing and Our model > how edits work. Where are those so called other rules? — Braiam 7 mins ago
facepalm
 
Prolly frustrated at work
It happens to the best of us.
Which is me of course
 
user315433
7:44 PM
What's a good site to ask about a chill pill recipe? Health?
 
What?
 
user315433
Unrelated: does the arithmetic-assignment syntax (a += b and so on) have some virtues that I have failed to see so far? To me it looks like saving a few characters at the expense of more human time unpacking the meaning of a formula.
 
This is probably answered somewhere already (Software Engineering maybe...), but
- it maps somewhat to the concept of an accumulator register
- it's a convenient way to break down an expression such that you can view intermediate results
- you get used to seeing it pretty quickly
 
@NormalHuman Lol
 
9
A: Why are shortcuts like x += y considered good practice?

Michael BurrFor some insight to why these operators are in the 'C-style' languages to begin with, there's this excerpt from K&R 1st Edition (1978), 34 years ago: Quite apart from conciseness, assignment operators have the advantage that they correspond better to the way people think. We say "add 2 to ...

(the top answer there focuses on the accumulator register thing I mentioned, which may be entirely apocryphal but still makes a good origin story)
 
7:56 PM
@NormalHuman It serves another more subtle purpose, too. Since you can overload operators in C++, if you have something that is optimized for the case a = a + b, you can theoretically implement your optimization in the += operator, rather than relying on + then =.
 
doesn't C++ have some way to implement "move" semantics for that now?
but, yeah, once upon a time there were a bunch of weird voodoo reasons for using certain operators in C++ that made no difference in C or other languages (and probably shouldn't have in C++ either)
 
@NormalHuman - Are you only considering it from a numbers perspective? Using += with strings, since they are immutable, can lead to real problems when using recursion or other techniques that require a lot of mutation.
 
@Shog9 Yeah... I think so, in some situations. I'd have to think about how you could do something equivalent with rvalue references / move constructors before answering that for real.
 
@Shog9 Well, totally depends on what types x and y actually are
 
user315433
I was thinking of numbers. I guess I can get used to a *= 2, but the line that made me unhappy (in someone else's code) was a *= b*c where one really has to think about abc as a product to understand whether it makes sense. (Matrices were involved).
 
8:03 PM
@TravisJ std::string isn't immutable (neither are non-const char arrays), Java Strings are immutable though.
 
@NormalHuman again, precedence is something you tend to just memorize and stop thinking about. What gets problematic are things like a = a*b/c where the precision needed exceeds what can be stored in a, b or c
 
@NormalHuman Yeah for primitive number types, it's just like what Shog and that post says. Also I'm not sure if C++ has different implicit casting and promotion rules for those operators, I'd have to look that one up, but e.g. for Java there are subtle differences, even for primitive numeric types.
 
@JasonC - It was a broad statement, so it probably wasn't accurate for all languages. C# also has immutable strings, but mostly the point was that using += with strings, in some circumstances can be problematic. If strings are mutable in C++, and the += operator makes use of that, then there may not be any downside there. I thought C++ was just one example though, and that we were talking about a language agnostic situation.
 
Yeah
I wonder if I should learn C#. I don't have any real reason to but it always feels like a conspicuous gap in my language tool set.
 
According to the survey its use is in decline.
 
8:12 PM
Does iOS stuff still use Objective-C?
 
Yes, bleh, not a fan of O-C.
 
That's another one I'm missing.
 
user315433
Because everything is written in JavaScript nowadays...
 
You can use C# with mono to port to iOS though. Although the port process is a little messy.
 
user315433
The year is 2017. Desktop applications are written in JavaScript. Your CPU is busy rendering a blinking cursor. (W… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/843875280888434690
 
8:13 PM
I like JS, don't get me wrong, but I don't prefer using it server side.
 
Lots of 🎉.
@TravisJ I used to feel that way, then I discovered the joys of node.js for a project recently, and now I'm hooked.
Productivity *= 100
It is freakin' brilliant for server side stuff, especially combined with express.js.
 
Lacks the bells and whistles I am used to. Maybe in another decade it will catch up.
 
To be fair, node's package manager (npm) is currently the largest package repository in existence. Granted it speaks to quantity, not necessarily quantity.
E.g. I find it sorely lacking in the sane ORM department. Although I still have a couple ORMs to try.
 
8:31 PM
Yeah, ORM, caching techniques, async tooling, expression tooling, and gc efficiency are the main issues. The expression tooling and ORM stuff is problematic because of JS's inherent problem with strong types.
 
@NormalHuman the sad bit here is that VS is/was notoriously inefficient for years as a native app (especially once they started bringing in WPF, but even before that there were pitfalls where it'd load symbols and it'd be furiously hammering the disk and network until you closed it down, infinitely searching for something that didn't exist).
Leaky abstractions...
 
VS does sometimes get really slow if it has an issue with a symbol. It is rather annoying. The symbol loading causes so many problems that the cursor can't even load until it has some processing allocated to it. And typing? Forget about it. I wonder if it is an issue with IntelliSense in edge cases where it gets stuck analyzing a warning or something. Never happens in fresh projects.
 
yeah... Things I'm glad I don't have to worry about anymore. Good lord, the days I spent optimizing symbol paths, making sure fallback servers were configured, tracking down symbols (and binaries!) for umpteen versions of Windows, runtime, .NET... I'll never get that back.
"oh look, a version of MSVCRT that no one has ever heard of and which no symbols exist for - what fun!" --me, never
 
Heh
It was part of the art, though. Programmers have it too easy, these days! GRUMBLE
 
for all the whining about JavaScript, browser compatability, CSS weirdness... Desktop dev is (or was at least) a completely different level of hell.
 
8:44 PM
I'm glad I never had to touch WinAPI
 
IntelliSense seemed to have gotten clunkier over time. Even looking back at VS 2008 which I have on here, the difference is noticeable.
Ha, I actually really liked the Windows API. It brings back memories of writing 1337 A0L pr0gz in VB when I was like 14.
 
"Sorry, can't use that buffer size in OpenGL - some no-name video card will crash the Intel drivers if a specific version of the sound driver is installed on the same machine. Because who drivers? They run with access to kernel memory, nothing could possibly go wrong!"
 
But I was thinking about that the other day. It's been years since I had a legitimate reason to write a window message handler. Those giant switch blocks.
TMW you realized you already used WM_USER for something entirely different somewhere else.
 
These aren't the ports you were looking for
 
Those weird mixes of COM and the traditional API.
 
8:48 PM
I am so glad web dev doesn't use ports.
 
@JasonC that's the one where behavior was supposed to be specific to the particular window class, right? But random libraries would use it for arbitrary communication with the main app, because reading docs is for newbs.
 
@Shog9 Yeah it was just "a message that you can use for whatever". And everybody used it for everything. Better practice was to use WM_USER + some_relatively_unique_value but nobody ever did.
 
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Q: WM_USER vs WM_APP

TomI want the worker threads to send a user-defined message to the UI thread message queue, but I am not sure if I should use WM_USER or WM_APP. The documentation for WM_APP says: WM_APP through 0xBFFF Messages available for use by applications. So should I use WM_APP?

 
Shoving random crap into SetWindowLong was fun, too.
 
WM_APP was the one almost everyone wanted. And never used.
so much damn voodoo because the docs sucked
 
8:51 PM
Yeah but it was even more evil than that.
Because WM_USER was also used by Windows itself in random undocumented cases on standard controls.
WM_APP only existed as a "oops, we wanted WM_USER to be this, then we fucked up the message space, so time for take 2"
So e.g. you subclass a standard combo box and think "WM_USER, perfect!". Then your combo box explodes.
 
ah... memories of Spy++ for figuring out why some behavior was getting triggered
 
Oh yeah! I actually have that program installed and as a quick link on my taskbar right now for some inexplicable reason.
 
Couldn't you have also used .net reflector?
Oh, I see. Spy++ was for the runtime environment
 
Well .NET reflector wasn't around and also doesn't serve the same purpose. Spy++ gives you live message streams for window objects.
The Windows API is really fascinating if you dig into it.
You can mess with all sorts of things, like it's pretty trivial to write a program that changes the behavior of a button in a different program.
 
Really? That's kinda crazy
 
8:57 PM
I still read The Old New Thing. Wonderful insights in WinApi stuff
 
@TravisJ Yep. At least for programs that use the Windows standard controls. Stuff like e.g. Chrome draws all its own text fields and tabs and crap. But you could probably still intercept clicks and make it do strange things.
 
Or I could automate the clicking of the stupid "You're in dev mode" message every time chrome starts
 
Yeah that kind of stuff is super easy.
 
@JasonC oh yeah. Or inject code into a running program and remap APIs, all without needing debugging privileges.
Of course, that also means that handy tools like clipboard logs or global hotkeys tend to use really similar patterns to things like malicious keyloggers.
 
9:06 PM
@Shog9 - I am not active much on Progr... Software Engineering or Super User, do those exchanges also have surveys like Stack Overflow just did and I have been missing them?
 
@TravisJ just one big Survey
 
I feel like jr and sr level developers were overly represented due to pigeonholing (or because that is the majority of SO users?). There didn't seem to be many stats collected on project managers, analysts, or architects.
 
@TravisJ entire network's audience skews toward programmers, SO's audience skews even more toward programmers, and survey probably skews toward folks who use SO a lot... So, yeah.
In other news, I just ordered a rain spout diverter so I can set up a couple of rain barrels now that that's legal here in CO. Surprisingly, I couldn't find such a thing in any of the local hardware stores.
 
rain barrels? To offset city water prices or something?
If you are storing water you should maintain it with a small pump that pipes water through a UV filter.
 
@TravisJ why?
 
9:14 PM
To ensure that you don't get any bio contamination
 
@TravisJ water the garden during the summer. It's very dry here, and water is expensive.
 
I suppose if it is stored in near term it isn't a problem, especially if you are just watering the lawn or something.
We use 1000 gallon plastic tanks here to store water. They have to be dark or they will grow algae, and we run the water through a UV sterilizer to ensure that nothing grows in the tank.
 
yeah, that's a good setup. But, not legal to store that much water here.
(or at least, questionable)
 
I don't think we have water storage laws, but this water is being filtered from our water meter so it is a slightly different situation.
 
ah, yeah, that'd be ok
I can store up to 110 gallons of rainwater at a time, which at best is only gonna just extend the time I don't have to water after a rain by a few days.
But, better than nothing.
 
9:19 PM
Odd. Is there a drought in Colorado?
 
@TravisJ not at the moment
a hundred+ years of complicated laws and treaties surrounding water rights
 
I wonder what the reasoning for limiting rainwater retention is
ah, yeah... too much abuse from large acreage I suppose.
 
the Great Plains tend to be fairly dry; a huge amount of water used for irrigation comes from runoff from snow on the Rocky Mountains
 
If you collect it from a foot underground, does it count as retaining ground water? :P
 
So... Who's water is that? It runs through Colorado first, but Kansas, Oklahoma depend on it
thus, decades and decades of lawsuits and treaties
if you own land but not water rights, you're not allowed to take water from the ground or water that was supposed to fall on it.
 
9:22 PM
The Central California Valley has major issues like that too.
A lot of their water comes from the Sierra Nevada's, but must run through an adjourning valley first, which complicates things significantly.
What about a humidity trap?
 
what humidity?
 
It says you get 25-50% on average in Colorado
Although during the day in the sun seems to be as low as 7%.
 
heh... About 10% here right now
dew point is 8F
rare is the night we get dew
 
Don't need dew for a humidity trap, just need a container with some salt at the top on the inside.
It collects really slowly though. Like 1L per month in your area probably, maybe it is a poor idea.
 
heh, no wonder I've never seen such a thing
 
9:27 PM
:)
They are more common for lowering humidity in places, but the byproduct is that they collect water.
Do you water using a drip system?
 
Ah. Currently running an evaporative cooler inside as a humidifier
@TravisJ the garden, yes
 
I suppose that is required in that type of environment though
 
I mean, I could use sprinklers, but that'd be insanely expensive for more than a small area
 
yeah
 
neighbor uses sprinklers, but they also have like 6'x6' raised beds.
so... Not that much to soak.
 
9:30 PM
In Santa Barbara for a while when the drought was really bad they outlawed sprinklers for front lawns.
 
I just plant pasture grass & let it brown off when it's dry - keeps erosion down, doesn't require watering.
 
Makes sense
 
slowly terracing the yard, trying to build up enough decent soil to hold more water - that's far more practical than rain barrels, but also takes a long time.
 
There are some really tough water resistant grasses, but they are not really comfortable to walk on
 
eventually your feet toughen up
 
9:33 PM
lol
Not really familiar with any soil techniques, that is outside of the area we work with here
 
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A: What are the larger-scale options for storing rainwater?

bstpierreFrom small to large (roughly speaking): Barrels (usually I see 30‒65 U.S. gal (110‒250 L)) Plastic Intermediate bulk containers (IBC; usually I see 275 to 330 gal (1000‒1250 L)) Rain barrels or IBCs in series — this allows you to scale your capacity over time Large above- or underground tanks /...

 
Could you import soil? Or would that be far too expensive?
Wow, that is quite an answer
 
I could, but, yeah; I'm cheap.
Also far more efficient to just work in mulch every year
soil disappears fast without plants to hold it in place
 
Do you try to rotate the plants you mulch, or do you just use grass?
 
I rotate, slowly expanding the garden beds each year
(the grass takes care of itself - erosion control is most important for areas that are grass)
 
9:43 PM
These are unusually drought resistant: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_edulis ,
 
huh, that's cool
looks less... hazardous than prickly pear
 
Yeah it is soft enough, and it doesn't look so bad. Still not the best thing to walk on, but it is really hearty.
Heh, prickly pear used to grow all over where I grew up. So many prickled memories with tweezers and discomfort
 
user315433
10:15 PM
 
user315433
17 minutes old, not yet reported...
 
10:32 PM
I wish, when you visited a link to an answer, there were some clear direct indication that that answer no longer exists.
So many times following spam reports and having to double-check the link.
Comments too.
 
sounds like a userscript idea. Please supply a UI draft and a name suggestion
 
user315433
I think this should be on SE side. It's disorienting to be directed to a question when you were linked to an answer.
 
@JanDvorak That is a good idea.
 
user315433
I don't see any FR for this, however. The closest I found is Allow deleted answers to be visible to anyone if linked to directly which isn't going anywhere.
 
Yeah I was about to write one.
Although I like the idea of doing it in a userscript too maybe I'll bang on that later.
I can't think of a good UI for an FR... maybe... a banner at the top of the page? Is that tacky?
Or a pop-up dialog, maybe?
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Q: Show warning or 404 when following permalink to deleted answer

ArjanWhen following a permalink to an answer that has been deleted, most viewers get to see the question instead. (The browser cannot find the <div id="answer-xx" ...> to scroll to, unless one has enough reputation to see deleted posts.) Most of the time this is nice, but it can be confusing. For tho...

 
10:39 PM
Who is generating all these links to deleted answers?
 
Smokey, mostly
 
Perhaps bots should generate links to /posts/ instead of to /a/
That would 404
 
Interesting...
 
Oh that's a good idea too.
@Undo ^ Links to /posts instead of /a?
 
user315433
If the goal is to get 404, sure.
 
10:41 PM
Erm, is it correct though? I thought posts would work but it seems to 404 for what I would have assumed to be proper ids
 
user315433
They 404 for existing answers, too.
 
... oh
no good then
 
yeah, posts needs an index :P I guess it could link to the timeline? Not nearly as clean though
 
does the timeline have a flag link and a clean body view?
 
no and no
I take it back, sorry
 
10:46 PM
Oh
No
@Undo Nevermind I'm retarded.
I also forgot that /posts doesn't work for answers. It's only good for info e.g. /posts/answer_id/timeline, or /revisions or whatever.
@TravisJ Timeline isn't helpful but it could link to /revisions
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Q: Show a message if directly accessing a deleted answer or comment

dirkkCurrently, if you access a deleted question you will get a short message informing you that the question has been deleted. However, if you click on a direct link to a deleted answer or comment (which you can get via notifications), nothing is displayed. This is naturally quite confusing as you w...

And @rene already wrote a script there for it.
 
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11:05 PM
> hence the tag "discoveries"
Lol
@rene Userscript of the week. Nice.
I stuck the rest of the domains that I know about in there.
 
user315433
11:22 PM
New job ad: Digital Marketing Executive. The job description: "Nurture leads via automated workflows to convert them into MQLs."
 
user315433
I'd be unconfortable with the kind of nurturing that is automatic and converts you into something else.
 
user311528
@JasonC why are you not ded yet
5
 
@Riker That's kind of a creepy question... What do you mean?
 
user311528
oh, wrong reply
 
user311528
@SmokeDetector meant this
 
11:30 PM
Dammit Jason, stop arguing and die already
 
LOL
 
user311528
sorry about that
 
user311528
must've scrolled or something lol
 
Oh man
 
user311528
 
11:31 PM
Haha
I was genuinely sad for a couple minutes.
 
Yeah, this would be a risky move if a mere mortal did that
 
user311528
yeah, I'm thankful that didn't get flagged
 
user311528
@JasonC I'm sorry about that
 
@JasonC "No Mr Bond C, I expect you to die"
 
Lol no problem. That was the highlight of my day.
 
user311528
11:33 PM
okay
 
user311528
lol, it gt 3 stars?
 
Welcome to the Tavern, lol.
Our star wall has a very low bar.
 
>_> I'm trying to decide if you get a gold star, or defenestration.
 
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