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12:11 AM
@redredwine I haven't read up on this latest thing yet, but there's a type of attack that relies on analyzing the time it takes a server to respond; different payloads will take different amounts of time to retrieve or compress or whatever.
And since hot network questions is random each time a page is loaded...
12:43 AM
We’re prepping the upgrade of our SQL Server 2016 primaries to CU1, the AG replicas are already updated.
Hm. The banner message about upgrade is shown only at SO. And it's not a system message, but the 10M celebration banner...
Heads up: taking Stack Overflow offline in 6 minutes for a very brief outage in order to failover quickly to our replica database servers.
Taking Stack Overflow offline now, we’ll be right back!
And we’re back - that should be the only outage tonight.
1:14 AM
I'm tempted to migrate this to the central meta.SE .
Q: How to search comments for an exact quote?

MarlaI have tried searching for a statement (a quote) that is made in a comment, with zero results. For example, if I search for comment "news in 1983", which is an exact quote for my own comment, I get zero results in search. The comment I made is found here In chat room, it was suggested tha...

There is already Can I search my comments using some keyword(s)? and several questions linked to it.
I was going to start a question on whether users could get an option to turn on notifications if one of their comments have received a lot of upvotes.
1:30 AM
But then I remembered that I rather have more reps on the main site than on meta
Stack Overflow and the rest of Stack Exchange network are all on SQL 2016 CU1. CPU is looking way better.
@redredwine We might as well keep the dupes in one centralized location.
2:17 AM
2:28 AM
Friend: Do dates make you nervous? Me: omg yes especially when doing math across timezone boundaries
I must repent. There are some butcher birds that like to come and beg for food. They are usually given meat fillets. But one butcher bird has become lazy. It comes & begs for food all the times. No suitable meat left in the fridge. I found a large piece of butter in the freezer, so the bird was given frozen butter everyday ...
butcher bird fermentation ~puff~
Still very thin ...
3:24 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, link at end of answer: USB Barcode scanner splitter by HEESOO KWAK on hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com
4:05 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: tilization of a factor with persona have an have an effect on on within by glais juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
4:37 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: How to increase my penis Size? by NorinePonce on superuser.com
4:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Curing Hair Loss Ways To Regrow Your Hair by user55844 on workplace.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Yoga Dvd Review: Yoga Body Burn by doqsnald on superuser.com
sd - 2k - k
5:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: What is the hypoglycemic file by inezcwenger on meta.stackexchange.com
6:41 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] URL-only title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: crack-serials.com/kmspico-activator-latest/ by user577555 on askubuntu.com (@kos)
Q: "Legions of insanely-pedantic users": not against the be-nice policy?

Franck DernoncourtI read the following comment on meta: So far everyone has missed the REAL reason why SE sites will always be freely-accessible: legions of insanely-pedantic users. Doesn't it go against the be-nice policy (http://meta.stackexchange.com/help/be-nice: "Name-calling. Focus on the post, not th...

Dude, you realize you just flagged Shog9?!
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: healthonlinereviews.com/dermagen-iq/ by Nichozi on codegolf.stackexchange.com
7:02 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Fitcrew Usa Pump 2400 Regular potatoes by TarshaYoung on arduino.stackexchange.com
7:54 AM
I VTC-ed this a long time ago: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/212979/… then got re-opened because of regression but it now is again no longer reproducible. Can someone put it in the CVQ?
@rene I did it JUST for you.
@TIPS Oh ... thanks ... I guess?
Make me a sandwich.
@rene brews coffee for @rene
7:57 AM
gives coffee to @TIPS in the hope it goes for a sandwich
Bites coffee
Hey, this isn't a sandwich!
Use your imagination
coffee beats sandwich
Only at night
8:16 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: considerations large amounts nevertheless effectively to a couple measure by glaisjuriya on superuser.com
eagle eyed Meta veterans ... that is now an euphemism for voting mob?
@rene I just get annoyed by the assumption that the Meta effect equates to nonsense votes being cast out of spite.
8:37 AM
It's votes being cast of spite that are not nonsense at all!
Haha, nah, it's votes the user didn't expect to get when their request for an honest opinion results in opinions that do not match theirs.
"OMG you guys are so cruel and mean" ... "no dude, your question just sucks"
OMG you are so cruel and mean @Bart
@Bart wait, I always assumed that votes aren't required/enforced to make any sense in the first place. Isn't the whole "I won't comment on downvotes because I am entitled to vote like I wish and if I want to downvote because I didn't like you avatar that is fine too" based on that?
Now you tell me that I was supposed to vote based on the post usefulness and quality??
@Derpy you're not required to justify your votes, sure. I would however assume we hope they do make some sense.
8:45 AM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ....
ok, tricked @Bart in prompting my daily MLP reference, I am done for now :P
How you manage to operate a computer at all with those hoofs of yours is beyond me. But well done.
Depression - when you spot a thread with goodie goddies (people who you to troll the most), and you don't have the impulse to troll at all ...
There there. It will all be fine. Get a cup of tea, relax, and you'll be back to trolling in no time.
8:54 AM
using cuteness therapy
@Telkitty Are those some low price knock-off? They don't look like the actual show characters at all! You should get a 4de plush instead.
you know, there is an actual dog inside it too right?
New post.
Q: Undeletion, Unbumping and the Potential For Abuse

TIPSThere has been some concerns on how bumping can be abused to garner some extra reputation. I'm going to question the opposite. A scenario where not bumping can be abused. Today of all days, a post was reported by Smoke Detector in Charcoal HQ and while it was obviously spam, it was deleted so fa...

9:03 AM
@Telkitty I know of plushies having hearts, but of plushies having dogs I never eared off.
Actually you know what, this is not fine https://thenib.com/this-is-not-fine
9:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Turtles All the Way Down by nhabep on codegolf.stackexchange.com
sd k
9:38 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Transfer Whatsapp Chat from iOS to Android by Holidaycool on android.stackexchange.com (@Portal)
i am leaving this discussion now as it's such a bad vibe here and really not going to try and educate a mob who has already decided that abusing powers granted is acceptable and god forbid you give that up and let the entire community decide. just keep your closed society. peace out as i must leave this discussion before i really blast you guys.... enjoy the karma — Samuel Jackson 6 mins ago
Somehow not surprising
@Bart that conclusion took 2 days?
@rene You should wait and see what they comment under their own post after six months.
will do ...
@rene do note that "bad vibe" means "you actually discuss and have a view that is not mine". And somehow that's never a good thing. ;)
9:48 AM
Guys guys, may I divert your attention to scholar babies?
Q: What is the view on / process for handling dimwitted down votes?

GaryFrom time to time you encounter a meaning request, and provide a word which is obviously directly relevent. You reference your definition, provide a sample phrase etc. Yet someone still downvotes your answer. For clarification I am referring to questions here that are well formed. My question ...

They're much more fun to watch.
(Not to mention I'm sometimes technically one of them)
Don't people realize that they are potentially insulting the very community they're trying to address when writing such titles? "Hey buncha idiots, how do I handle you being idiots?"
@Bart Is idiot insulting? I always took it as an compliment ...
@Bart I guess when they're all fired up, blood covers their eyes and they can't see.
@rene We're talking about "idiot" as in "human idiot", not "flower idiot".
@rene I can see how for you that's the best it will ever get.
9:56 AM
Did that image just get larger after the edit? O_o
@Derpy Why are they attacking windmills?
@TIPS Donkey Xote
Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means attacking imaginary enemies. The word "tilt", in this context, comes from jousting. The phrase is sometimes used to describe confrontations where adversaries are incorrectly perceived, or courses of action that are based on misinterpreted or misapplied heroic, romantic, or idealistic justifications. It may also connote an importune, unfounded, and vain effort against adversaries real or imagined for a vain goal. == Etymology == The phrase derives from an episode in the novel Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes, wherein protagonist Don Quixote...
10:03 AM
When people are getting negative comments and downvotes, I have observed that it is never because of the quality of the user's questions, answers or even attitude - including their usually exceptional sense of humor - but always because of high-rep trolls getting their jollies by abusing innocents. Hang in there. The truth will see the light of day. — medica Nov 5 '15 at 4:03
Q: I really don't see why ignorant idiots should be allowed to edit my posts

RickyMy question Here's one for the Brits I guess was edited five times, beginning with the title. It is now unrecognizable; a whole different question. Not my question; not anymore. I asked whether "blag" was the British equivalent of "chutzpa," because I remembered reading something to that e...

I just remembered why meta.ELU is a scarier place than meta.SO.
10:19 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Custom entities created time is always the same by user65438 on drupal.stackexchange.com
@TIPS because more people can write in english than those who can program thus higher chance of abuse?
10:42 AM
@Telkitty No, because meta.SO never gets persistent trolls with several thousand reputation.
11:08 AM
@TIPS but ... I'm there ...
@rene You're not considered persistent.
Oh ... let me work on that
@TIPS Are you telling me that I am not working hard enough?
Yes. I'm indicating that some people need to do harder.
Also looking angrily at @Bart
. . .
. . . and Shog. Hides
anger reflects off glasses
11:13 AM
you need to ping him, he loves pinging
@Bart Not chemico-anger.
especially around 3am-5am
@Telkitty Be my guest
@TIPS I'm coated against that.
@Bart I'm equipped with THE ANTICOAT
11:14 AM
No, I don't milk goats.
12:00 PM
milk oats
The Anticoat sounds like a name for a vilain
and antigoat that of a comedian
12:20 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: Apex Vitality Booty Pop WASTE YOUR MONEY! www.fitnessbites.org/apex-vitality-booty-pop/ by user577549 on arduino.stackexchange.com
@balpha @df07 @JayHanlon https://t.co/yzZbaz8an8
12:58 PM
> London is the capital city of England. It is the most populous city in the United Kingdom, with a metropolitan area of over 13 million inhabitants. Standing on the River Thames, London has been a major settlement for two millennia, its history going back to its founding by the Romans, who named it Londinium. -- live and learn
1:23 PM
ChrisF abusing his power again, mindlessly deleting such gems.
who wants power if not for abuse
@Telkitty Bart, of course.
that's why he has no mod power
1:42 PM
@Telkitty gimme powerz!
I can give you powderz
@Bart I believe there is an let's hate iText crowd somewhere
@rene I'm not part of it at least. I'm certain they have the best intentions. If anything they should perhaps reformulate the text on their website.
Duly noted, the paragraph about bugs will be removed. — Amedee Van Gasse 1 min ago
Okay, they are officially awesome now
1:58 PM
I do however still prefer their competitor :p
Are those genuine comments though? Or are these some of Pekka's knock off imitation comments?
1 hour later…
3:21 PM
I2P proposal reached 100% commitment.
Name could be better... too close to 4U2P signs.
3:32 PM
Shouldn't that proposal be invisible?
4:07 PM
always worth a laugh
:D I get the "so negative as of late" as a suggestion
Given a few decades, the meaning of the Stack Overflow name will be lost
All praise High-level languages
wow.... I just gave the Software Q&A room a hit with the mod defibrillator.... after a 755 day absence of activity
4:26 PM
Generally, the absence of vital signs for 755 days suggests that defibrillation won't be effective.
Another user literally made a new general chatroom which only got frozen like 40 days ago
4:56 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Can I make my own driftwood for my fish tank? by Joan Hardy on pets.stackexchange.com
5:40 PM
spam, advertising own services.
@ShadowWizard Spam? Eh. Seems like a kind, misguided offer.
110 suggested edits? Vacation time for reviewers or something?
5:58 PM
@hichris123 Where?
SO, of course.
@hichris123 Well, since you said it here, I took a look at meta.SE and saw nothing.
21 hours ago, by Shog9
@ShadowWizard Currently 40 everywhere but SO (where it's 200) and Japanese (where it's 50).
SO is the only site where it can be >50. :)
6:15 PM
What's the point of this limit?
I mean, with all the other limits that exist.
My favorite cereal clone.
my favourite cereal clone is probably friends
I miss Post Toasties :(
@TIPS there were no other limits until a couple weeks ago...
@Shog9 I knows, but doesn't this need reconsidering? It sounds totally extraneous with the per-person limit AFAICT.
arguably if you got that many edits in queue, the site is broken
the fix isn't to ignore the problem
(as I say this, I've just increased the Triage cap to 200, so... My excuse is I don't have time to fix it today)
6:20 PM
@hichris123 email address, "doing free services".... spam-ish enough for me.
Oh, nope. Broken link.
@ShadowWizard You is too harsh :o
Sorry to get your hopes up.
@Shog9 I actually maxed out all but 2 queues today
Which is more painful then it sounds
My excuse is that I was doing it while chain testing old HDDs >_<
Someone really, really doesn't like me
I got 15 downvotes today on my top 15 posts in 2 short bursts
@Magisch That isn't me.
6:25 PM
Odd that it's the suggested edits that mean brokenness, not first posts or close votes.
At the moment
tfw you handle 2 mod flags in one day
new record
I assume the serial script will catch it
If there are remains, I'll modflag
I think the help center says use contact form after... 48? hours.
6:28 PM
I'll wait until after the script runs
And that runs daily
Contact us form should be as easy to use as rebate forms.
In the history of SE elections, only two were cancelled: Web Apps 2011 and Japanese Language 2015.
6:43 PM
@redredwine Why were they cancelled?
@TIPS offering free candies to everyone, just email shadow@wizard.net
@ShadowWizard You are too harsh. :P
Déjà vu
There we go, for the correct intonation & emphasis.
@hichris123 offering free candies to everyone, just email shadow@wizard.net
here you go!
@redredwine doesn't appear cancelled to me...
Q: 2015 Community Moderator Election Results

Shog9Japanese Language's first moderator election* has come to a close, the votes have been tallied, and the 3 new moderators are: They'll be replacing the pro tempore crew shortly — please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! And d...

I think "free candy" would be more idiomatic there, but...
@ShadowWizard There's a difference and you know it... it's the difference between a good-faith offer of a well-meaning user and spam.
@ShadowWizard The election is dead, long live the election.
6:53 PM
@hichris123 I'm sure spammers also come with goof faith... but oh well, I know what you mean. :)
An answerer who took review comments to heart and improved their answer
What is this, the twilight zone?
Yeah, people improve answers. Not as often as you'd like but they do...
> Member for 6 years, 3 months
Not the typical newbie...
So yeah, those have good chance to fix their mistakes. :)
lol, Peter just polished the spam turd
The proposal to bump at undeletion makes sense for preventing a kind of abuse.... But it would enable another, delete-undelete to bump own post for extra attention.
They can already do that with edits, of course... But this makes it easier.
7:01 PM
@redredwine that is right, but user can do the same with trivial edits like you said, so if someone notice, flag is due and if repeated too many times, it can lead to suspension.
@red why just 50 and not 100? ;)
Because not 100.
Because I don't have much rep of meta
Because of this bounty I had to undelete an answer to restore some rep, so I could downvote.
Ironically, this was easy because it doesn't bump.
@redredwine now I finally understand why you delete upvoted answers. So you have a stash. Nice!
7:08 PM
@redredwine Hey
I'm trying to work here
Although I wasn't
the guy that proposes bumping.
@TIPS but you brought this up, reviving that old discussion/request.... ;)
Gilles did it! Points at Gilles
nah, you won't fool me
I'll fool that @Shadow guy.
7:24 PM
Q: Documentation Update, August 4th

Kevin MontroseThis is the second post in our series of regular (roughly weekly) updates on the Documentation Beta. See also the previous post in the series. Shipped Changes Review Rules We've just enabled an update to creating and review proposed changes, so that now: Users with a silver or gold tag badg...

@TIPS maybe fuel, not fool.... :D
Burns @Sha violently
@redredwine Thank you my man feeds
burning happily ever after
Being in the same chat as @red is equivalent to be aware of every single big thing happening in SE or concerning SE.
@TIPS yup. He's like a Feed with AI. Well, HI.
7:37 PM
@ThomasWeller Absolutely. I was already planning to pull 1 extra person to make up for that Tim Post guy stealing one of the spots. Pffft. That guy. — animuson ♦ Jul 25 at 20:52
Employees don't get top user swag, apparently.
Oh, BTW @Portal isn't it time for you to change name identity as well? ;)
@redredwine so unfair...
@ShadowWizard It's Quill's fault.
@ShadowWizard Who's Portal? CRABOLO?
@TIPS nope. CRAB is lost. He used to be an "Andrew" in the long long past.
7:40 PM
Andrew T., never Andy
@SmokeDetector One lesson to be learned here, is that it's always @Quill's fault, even if it's not Quill's fault.
then when @Norm started his name rampage, he started too...
@redredwine whoops. Yup. Both starts with "And" though.... :P
So Andrew was CRABOLO? WTH
@TIPS no no... CRAB is lost. Still CRABOLO.
Stop changing clothes people
I mean, I change names too, but at least I follow a theme.
So there were two Andrew T.'s?
This just got Matrix-y.
Or wait, I'm too dumb ATM
@TIPS not enough sleep?
Let's blame this on an ambiguous use of "he"
7:43 PM
Tough day
@TIPS why?
Too much math and physics.
@redredwine @Sha's ambiguous even when he doesn't want to
Now I'm eating whole words.
@redredwine well, I meant @Portal used to be @Andrew... duh :D
@TIPS blech
7:45 PM
I'm afraid I don't have answers to most of those. Does Google?
@redredwine of course!
Well, the top hit for that is Yahoo Answers. Followed by Quora.
@ShadowWizard One day, this ambiguity will get you killed
@redredwine top of the art contents...
Also a lack of commas and correct grammar
7:46 PM
So if you think math is boring, those are the right Q&A sites for you...
@ShadowWizard Well, it's nothing weird and nerdy, really.
@redredwine exactly! ;)
Just so many functions to integrate and derivativate-ate-ate.
@TIPS heh, I used to like both in highschool. Got top grades...
@TIPS integrals?
That's why you're stuck with being a groprammer
@ShadowWizard Yah
Weirdest thing ever.
I used to understand derivatives.
7:48 PM
@TIPS yeah, and friends telling me it's a good thing. And I listened.... :P
And now all you do is type wrong ellipsees.
Ellipsisses. Whatever
@TIPS true... my company product is called Integral. lol
What . . . SO YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT got us into this trouble?
Swears he'll take revenge
hides behind @Oded
8:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Shortened URL in body: The abc-conjecture proof by ulysse on math.stackexchange.com
hides behind @ShadowWizard
Puts @Sha aside Hey, this is @Oded, not @ShadowWizard!
Oh there you are
I've been found! Hat tip to ya
So... how did Shog's Triage change affect things so far?
8:24 PM
8:52 PM
@hichris123 huh? What did he change?
@Oded hey, that's not fair! And not smart, you can't hide that big diamond you wear....... :P
@ShadowWizard we increased the max number of items allowed in Triage at any moment from 100 to 200 - which then allows 40 reviews a day in that queue
@bluefeet oh. Nice! And guess people still max their daily reviews. :)
9:47 PM
Shown when unsubscribing from SE emails.
Q: Flagging low quality answers: an experiment

Emilio PisantyThe handling of low-quality answers has been a point of contention and friction, on and off, for a fairly long time in this site. For low-quality questions, it happens that every so often someone sees a terrible answer, flags it as low quality, and finds out that it gets declined with the message...

So so long... Someone should hire this person as a CM.
10:24 PM
It's certainly elegantly written.
Wait, that's just Georgia.
10:52 PM
So few of SE sites use serif fonts for main text... English, Math, Physics, and Christianity are all I know of (there may be more). The former three use Georgia, the latter uses Lusitana.
Now that I think of it, I'd rather have Lusitana than Georgia for math. (Because of my poor taste re: lining vs text figures, of course)
11:09 PM
Also: Chemistry, RPG, Judaism, and Patents have Georgia. This is all...
I like text figures in text.
And moreover, variable-width ones.
Text is not a spread sheet.
Of course, when summing columns, I want fixed-width digits.
Summary: 8 serif sites, 150 sans-serif sites. Of those 8, Georgia is used on 7, and Lusitana on 1. Serif seems to go well with hard sciences and religion.
I remember Christianity had Georgia at some point, possibly until the great CSS update of 2015...
@AndrewLeach I love Lusitana. I think it's a more elegant serif than Georgia, especially for the design of this site. My concern is that it may not render too well as body font. But, I'll switch the question and answer body text over to it tonight, and see if we get any complaints. In my experience, web fonts just don't render well on Windows, especially at smaller size. — Jin May 31 '13 at 19:23
I'm confused... Russell Crowe is back on Crypto 404 page, after being removed for copyright reasons...
11:26 PM
The permission-seeking tweet was left without an answer, perhaps plan B is to ask forgiveness instead...
Speaking of copyright and such things...
Stack Overflow is hiring a real-life lawyer. Know anyone? http://stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/188175/corporate-attorney
The ad has been deleted, but I don't see any attorneys on the company page.
Similarly, the Chief of Staff ad is gone, without a corresponding addition to the Executive team:
Not enough of you are applying for this job. I'll sweeten the deal: you'll be able to hang out with Taco regularly. http://stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/233631?gh_jid=233631
11:36 PM
@redredwine I'm glad English is now considered a hard science.
Well, that or a religion.

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