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user202362

12:02 AM

Journeyman Geek

12:13 AM

@zaq sadly... I've seen a similar election stump. Pre trump

No personal attacks tho

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1:20 AM

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user315433

1:44 AM

Jaydles either got promoted from "VP of Community" to "VP of Stack Overflow", or his job simply got renamed... stackoverflow.com/company/team#Executive

user315433

The latter may well be the case, if the non-SO sites are now considered "legacy".

Journeyman Geek

I'd hope not

or its reflecting the company 'branding'

user202362

2:03 AM

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3:37 AM

user202362

nom nom

user202362

4:04 AM

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rene

8:12 AM

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@rene brews coffee for @rene

rene

8:22 AM

delv-pls super user meta.stackexchange.com/questions/290840/… @Bart @ShadowWizard

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8:39 AM

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Shadow Wizard

9:07 AM

@rene maybe sub user, not super user.... :P

Journeyman Geek

@rene >_>

Shadow Wizard

feature-request have Smokey serve coffee automatically every day in 7:00 AM (UTC) with text like brews coffee for the Tavern. ;) /cc @Pro what you think?

@JourneymanGeek huh?

Why the long face?

Journeyman Geek

lol

SU mod? ;p

Stijn

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do this...

public override int GetHashCode()
{
// Not used
return 0;
}

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek lol no, @rene meant the question was more fitting for Super User... (I think...)

Journeyman Geek

9:10 AM

yeah. but er, Depending on how terrible it is, ;p

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn OMG... this can break so many things....

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, I got what he meant ;p

Stijn

@ShadowWizard I'm just going to pretend I didn't see it, do the bugfix in this code and move on :p

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek see for yourself:

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, pretty terrible

Shadow Wizard

9:13 AM

@Stijn you... wrote... it? :P

Journeyman Geek

dissipating IP ranges?

I think he saw it.

Stijn

@ShadowWizard nah, doing maintenance on a codebase I didn't write

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek lol dunno, didn't read that far :D

@Stijn yeah yeah, I believe you. Same way I believe you're not actually an 18 y/o teenager. ;)

But really... who would do such a thing and.... why?!

Just curious, what bug it caused? @Stijn

Stijn

@ShadowWizard the bug is in another piece of the class, I just saw that while scrolling through the code

maybe I should submit it to thedailywtf

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn totally!

Well, first thing that will break is probably comparison, then sorting.

Journeyman Geek

9:16 AM

@ShadowWizard Reading really fast, but not that accurately is a nice and terrible thing about dyslexia ;)

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh, lol... good for you... (I guess ;))

rene

@ShadowWizard yeah, we have this stupid rule in socvr that requires *-pls request to come with a valid reason. I kind of bring that habit here to indicate why needs to be deleted, by no means I'm suggesting to migrate that crap. cc @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

Most of the time.

Shadow Wizard

(seeing the good things in anything, I mean :))

rene

Trust me, I know what I'm doing ...

Journeyman Geek

9:17 AM

Oh, its handy, and could be worse.

Shadow Wizard

@rene lol, of course, I know :)

rene

It is kind of worrying when I'm pinged that many times. Scares the shit out of me ...

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'm still getting used to the noification sound here ;p

Beats the BONGS in the 'main' chat ;p

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek this sound? ;)

Journeyman Geek

yup

Shadow Wizard

9:22 AM

lol

Well, it was worse....

26

Q: Chat notification sounds have become like icicles repeatedly driven through my ears

(Yes, I said "through my ears", not just "into my ears".) It looks like HTML5 <audio> elements are now used to produce notification sounds in chat. And good heavens have they become startlingly loud. Please lower the volume of these notifications — or do whatever it is that needs to be done to ...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, the main server sound's annoying

but I got used to it

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek Good!

user280395

10:04 AM

Moosebot has been activated.

Stijn

@Moosebot lick @ShadowWizard

user280395

> Licks @ShadowWizard. Tastes like chicken!

Shadow Wizard

!!/coffee

!!/coffee

!!/coffee

!!/coffee

!!/coffee

user280395

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@Moosebot brews coffee for @Moosebot

Stijn

10:50 AM

@AaronHall Is there something broken with your user account? Looks like your MSE account is not linked to the rest of your network accounts.

qwer

11:03 AM

!!/tea

SmokeDetector

@qwer brews a cup of jasmine tea for @qwer

Derpy

!!/matcha

rene

@Derpy 418 I'm a teapot

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@rene brews coffee for @rene

rene

@Stijn here you go ^ coffee for you given This answer was nonsense, I need more coffee...

Stijn

11:12 AM

@rene thank you :)

Derpy

still waiting

rene

lol

Derpy

11:50 AM

~~wondering... how fast would the staff get mad if someone used the "♦" character in his username?~~

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy I think it's auto blocked, at least if in the end

Derpy

yep, hope so.

Stijn

@Derpy somewhere between not at all and entirely

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn he hides his MSE account. All others appear in his network profile.

Stijn

@ShadowWizard you can do that?

huh

Derpy

11:53 AM

@Stijn Is "Entirely Fast" a new synonym for "light-speed"?

Stijn

@Derpy it is now

Shadow Wizard

Stijn

> Oops! There was a problem updating your profile:
>
> Display Name can only contain letters, digits, spaces, apostrophes or hyphens and must start with a letter or digit

Shadow Wizard

huh

Stijn

I guess they don't block the diamond specifically

Shadow Wizard

12:01 PM

@Stijn yeah, they allow only specific sets of characters

Aaron Hall

@Stijn how is it not linked? because I'm signed in at work?

Derpy

they allow for hiragana and Arabic characters... maybe we could find some lookalike there?

゜

too small.

Stijn

Shadow Wizard

@AaronHall if you didn't hide it, maybe by mistake, it means you created whole new account for MSE

(instead of linking your existing account)

another case of rage deletion... (see last comment)

Stijn

can you copy it here for us plebs?

Shadow Wizard

12:14 PM

too offensive... let's just say it contains both the "f" word and the "s" word.... :-O

Stijn

ok :p

Aaron Hall

would there be some kind of signal that's the case?

Shadow Wizard

I doubt that user will post another question on MSE... but nothing we can do.

bjb568

Hallo

Shadow Wizard

Hallo

Aaron Hall

12:15 PM

Hallo

rene

@ShadowWizard yeah, I'm sorry

bjb568

/me am getting older now

/me am old

Shadow Wizard

@rene huh? Why?

It's just how MSE works :)

rene

@bjb568 Happy Birthday?

bjb568

a decade and a half, coming up in 3.5h.

qwer

12:16 PM

Hallo

Shadow Wizard

@bjb568 whoa... so old!

qwer

(darn lag)

Shadow Wizard

Will you have a cake? @bjb568

bjb568

Prolly

Shadow Wizard

With candles?

rene

12:17 PM

@ShadowWizard I am one of the anonymous down voters

bjb568

eh, dunno about candles

rene

Hallo

Shadow Wizard

@rene oh. Well, I was about to downvote too at first, but found the idea interesting.

user202362

@bjb568 if you can live to old enough, you will become an antique

rene

@qwer (+1)

Shadow Wizard

12:17 PM

@bjb568 oh. Who will bake/bring the cake?

bjb568

@Telkitty That's skary.

@ShadowWizard One of my classmates.

Shadow Wizard

Why you all are so laggy? :D

user202362

I am not

user202362

Shadow Wizard

@bjb568 cool! So any one who has birthday is getting a cake? That's nice in ~~highschool~~ college, for me it stopped way before that. ;)

bjb568

12:19 PM

Nah, I just have nice friends.

Shadow Wizard

@bjb568 oh. So you're a special case. Enjoy it! :D

bjb568

The skewl rules actually prohibit all birthday celebrations because they're "disruptive".

:p

Shadow Wizard

@AaronHall sure, go to "my logins" in edit profile on MSE, see what's going on

(I mean your logins, not mine ;))

slewl? hmm...

"ch" became "l"... "oo" became "ew"....

analyzing @bjb568-ish

bjb568

whoops :3

qwer

!!/bjblang

rene

12:22 PM

@ShadowWizard I lost your password, can you share it again?

Shadow Wizard

@rene shadow123

duh!

rene

Ah, yeah, knew it

Shadow Wizard

of course

Shadow Wizard

12:45 PM

← 5 messages moved from Shadow's Den

user280395

Morning!

Shadow Wizard

Morning!

user202362

@ShadowWizard argh, shadow has been stealing messages, arrrgh :p

Shadow Wizard

lol

@rene now when we disagree I don't have to look for ice cream very far

@Moosebot ice cream

user280395

Shadow Wizard

12:51 PM

So convenient.

Derpy

I forgot how funny it was to read the Zelda gamefaqs board a month before a new game releases..

people assuming that since the final boss is always accessible, even if you don't have powerful equipment you could still technically beat it (see: Demon Soul's Vanguard tutorial boss)

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy why? All the same "When the game is released?" messages?

Derpy

@ShadowWizard see the above :P

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy you mean they all boast how they'll do it?

I always try to reach the final stage over-leveled... hate tough fights.

Derpy

I am betting you now:P You go to the boss at the start of the game? Ok, you play the first battle phase, then a CUTSCENE kicks in, the boss tells you that only the Master Sword would have any effect on him.... and kills you in the same cut-scene

If you are lucky enough, you will also get a "Bad ending" out of it for your effort :P

Shadow Wizard

12:58 PM

@Derpy lol, well most games won't allow it, e.g. FF

Actually all games I've played... can't just reach the final boss just like that.

Bart

Even if you technically could, any gamedev would just include a simple "u ded" trigger

Shadow Wizard

@Bart lol... I tripped such a trigger not long ago

4

Q: What is killing me?

I was travelling a corner of Novigrad seeking a new location on the map, where I reached a weird tree, and any time I got close to it I simply dropped dead. From full health of 6000+ vitality to 0 instantly. No fall. No monsters. No fight. Just walking. Here is a video: https://www.facebook.com...

the-witcher-3

@Bart ^

Turns out I simply reached a place I wasn't supposed to reach

Bart

Exactly

Journeyman Geek

That's pretty bad game design ._.

qwer

oh, the great invisible wall... now come with death!

Shadow Wizard

1:05 PM

@JourneymanGeek on the contrary, I admire them for that. Efficient to prevent weird bugs.

That's just part of open-world game

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard invisible death walls are weird bugs

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek the alternative is not letting the player go off the trail, like for example in all Final Fantasy games (now playing XV) and many other games. I don't like that, prefer the freedom of doing what I want, even if it means falling from cliffs, drowning in oceans etc. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard or actual triggers

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek well, when I reached the end of the map, the game did give a clear message.

Journeyman Geek

and/or having accessibility to new areas organic in the game

ah

that would be ok

Shadow Wizard

1:08 PM

yup

that tree was really hard to get, had to climb really carefully.

Spent 20 minutes real time to do that.

then such a lame death. lol

Bart

I could easily see it be a play test afterthought. "They do what? ... sigh ... "

Shadow Wizard

heh, yeah :D

Derpy

@Bart that is the point, only that plot wise probably they will allow you to try for a while before auto-killing you. Game start == you don't have the master sword, which is supposedly the only effective weapon against Ganondorf / Demise / whatever ^_^

Bart

@Derpy oh yeah, knock yourself out by all means. Nobody is going to stop a player from engaging and having their own fun.

But you gonna die anyway

Derpy

considering they did confirm the new Zelda has multiple ending based on "completion percentage", one can safely assume that "no master sword == you die again ending"

Stijn

1:21 PM

I've always wondered, if you were to play Link's Awakening with an emulator up to the end where you know the path to take in the maze, and then reload a saved game where you don't "know" the path yet, would taking that path still work?

Derpy

@Stijn I seem to recall some article claiming that it doesn't work.

Journeyman Geek

I also hate twinked boss battles where the only way to win is to hit specific things or fire insane amounts of ammo while the boss can one hit kill you ._.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek great minds... play alike! ;)

user202362

Stijn

1:37 PM

@Telkitty that looks really weird

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn yup, like a dog squeezed into toilet paper roll

user202362

that husky was cute though

Shadow Wizard

"was"?

Bart

He ded

Stijn

:'(

rene

1:46 PM

lol

Shadow Wizard

:(

@Bart is it like being alve?

Bart

Same same but different

Shadow Wizard

did he at least have a decent funerl?

So much love on MSO...

Even @Oded is being attacked. :/

Journeyman Geek

Oh?

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek just go see MSO, it's right there

Journeyman Geek

2:00 PM

I don't go there much >_>

tje one about the core QA engine?

Shadow Wizard

me too, but now with the new top bar and everything...

Journeyman Geek

ah!

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek nope

Journeyman Geek

There's no real communication about that sorta thing with the other sites as far as I see.

Shadow Wizard

TL;DR - people aren't happy with the color and stickiness of the new top bar

user315433

2:01 PM

!!/report bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/51268 bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/51265

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek it's SO only for a while, yeah

Journeyman Geek

I can vaguely grok the hate

I only like stickiness if its on very small or very large screens ._.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek well, I also don't like it being sticky, even got a nice conversation with @Shog about it couple of days ago... but I won't go and say "it's ugly" in the dev's face, or be insulted if they tell me they think it's nice.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, the design is certainly more modern

Shadow Wizard

I like the design. I don't hate the stickiness. But still don't really like it.

Bart

2:05 PM

@ShadowWizard change bad, rarrrrgghhh!!!

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bart that is a thing

ironically, lack of help centre is going to be a pain for my style of moderation

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek still available in footer

Journeyman Geek

I don't need it, unless I need to link someone to it

ah

Shadow Wizard

ha

Journeyman Geek

also critically.

WHERE IS CHAT?

Bart

2:07 PM

Here

Stijn

I use it a lot too, when answering Meta questions. I guess I'll have to retrain muscle memory to press the End key to navigate to the help page.

Journeyman Geek

as basically the second chattiest ~~dog~~ person on chat.se ....

and cerbrus has three heads

Shadow Wizard

Journeyman Geek

ah. I miss when it was in the top bar ._.

but change bad raaaar and all that

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek it was there AGES ago.... lol

Journeyman Geek

2:09 PM

@ShadowWizard I've been on SE... 7ish years?

mostly on SU though

Bart

@ShadowWizard we get to attack @Oded on MSO? That sounds like fun. Where do I go?

Shadow Wizard

@Bart this way

@JourneymanGeek but the chat was moved something like three years ago when top bar has been re-designed for the first time...

Journeyman Geek

yup

Shadow Wizard

oh, so you still miss it... lol

I miss the envelope.

Journeyman Geek

dosen't really affect me (I bookmark them in my usual bunch of stuff) but I do feel it makes discoverability harder

which is good and bad

Oded

2:11 PM

Bart

@Oded awww, who's a good boy?

Shadow Wizard

oh don't cry @Oded, you make me cry too

:P

Oded

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Journeyman Geek

Shadow Wizard

2:26 PM

status-too-many-dog-pics

Fixed.

bluefeet

Never too many dog pics

Shadow Wizard

OK, I give up

Journeyman Geek

lol

that's my actual dog ;p

Stijn

> When you sit down to triage bug reports, you don't go looking for the one that has the most votes - you look for the one that has the biggest impact... And ideally, has enough information for you to understand and reproduce the problem.

So voting is all just a parade? I thought it made at least some impact.

Journeyman Geek

@Stijn bug reports though

qwer

2:36 PM

Not if pluralization bugs which we always love though

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek the one I posted is my dog as well, sleeping on my blue feet

Journeyman Geek

@bluefeet those are indeed blue.

also, adorable pup

cav?

Bart

Stahpit people. Now I want a dog ... but that's impossible unfortunately.

Journeyman Geek

@Bart We got a dog by accident

Bart

How do you manage that?

Shadow Wizard

2:40 PM

@Bart why? Allergic?

Journeyman Geek

Oh, his ex-owner bought him without telling her husband

Bart

@ShadowWizard nah, small apartment and it's just me. So I'm gone for most of the day

Journeyman Geek

massive fight. She was staying in a spare room while they sorted it out

she left, he didn't

Shadow Wizard

@Bart dog-sitter

Bart

Win win @JourneymanGeek? :D

Journeyman Geek

2:41 PM

@Bart quite

Bart

@ShadowWizard not really feasible.

Shadow Wizard

@Bart if you really want it would be ;)

Bart

Haha, don't tempt me. But nah, conditions need to change drastically before I get a dog.

Journeyman Geek

Its a massive time commitment

Depends on the dog of course

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek yes, it's a cav

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

ah, they have very distinctive muzzles

bluefeet

she's a cutie but also a troublemaker

Journeyman Geek

lol

They tend to be

Mine bit me the first time he saw me ;p

rene

Is /review/triage on any other SO site enabled?

qwer

@rene page not found

rene

@qwer I can hit this: pt.stackoverflow.com/review/triage/stats

Shadow Wizard

2:48 PM

works on MSE too meta.stackexchange.com/review/triage/stats

qwer

Oh, I guess I misread the first revision of "other site"

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek nice. She definitely likes to play bite. Our other dogs don't really like her right now because of it. I'm hoping she'll grow out of that a bit.

Journeyman Geek

@bluefeet most dogs are likely to get annoyed by puppies ;p

too much energy

bluefeet

She definitely has that.

Journeyman Geek

I mean, there's a few dogs that seem to be born chill

qwer

2:50 PM

In addition of that, the triage's review stats works anywhere, but the queue itself certainly doesn't work.

Shadow Wizard

@rene it exists, just disabled, as the stats page proves

hmm.... what about dead links review...

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek very true. Our others are pretty mellow so she is a bit of an oddball, but she is only 2 months.

Journeyman Geek

2 months is really young.

rene

@ShadowWizard Who has access to Transifex for the language sites? Mods?

Journeyman Geek

I think ash's original owner got him at about 3, then he had a few weeks to pick up bad habits

Bart

2:52 PM

Smoking and drinking?

Journeyman Geek

@Bart was a lonely pup who wasn't brought out for proper walks.

Also, bored/bloody smart

so chewing on trunking and grabbing people's feet

Shadow Wizard

@rene no, it's by invitation only as far as I know. It's a third party site they're using.

(i.e. not sharing login from SE)

qwer

@rene if スタック・オーバーフロー, I might check if it's still accessible from my account

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek yeah I know. The breeder lets them leave at 2 months. She is a super smart little dog, already using the doggie door but is a handful at times.

Journeyman Geek

Most of it went away once he realised people would play with him, and he wasn't going to be locked up all day

@bluefeet She'll turn out fine ;p

rene

2:55 PM

@qwer Ah, you mean you have access to Transifex?

Shadow Wizard

transifex.com/stack-exchange/stack-overflow-ru/english

@rene ^

I can see, but not edit, naturally

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek I'm sure.

It is odd though being at home and crate training her. She is on a 2.5 hour crate, then 30-45 mins playtime right now.

Journeyman Geek

ah

Our dog... lived in the office at first ;p

qwer

@rene for Japanese SO, yes, because I volunteered (but didn't help much in the end) transifex.com/stack-exchange/stack-overflow-ja/dashboard

rene

@qwer can you check for me if you have translated or are able to provide an translation for Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

Shadow Wizard

2:57 PM

heh, Tim manage all of them transifex.com/user/profile/tpost

Journeyman Geek

and for some reason, my parents didn't bother to crate train him. We kinda potty trained him... about a day after his ex-owner left

bluefeet

@JourneymanGeek I'd be too distracted having her with me in my office all day. I'd want to play with her instead of working. Plus our breeder recommends this type of schedule and has been doing it for 20+ years, so we're trying it

Journeyman Geek

lol

this is true

qwer

@rene it's separated into 2: "Requires editing" and "for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable"

rene

Ah, great!

That is what I wanted to know

Thanks!

qwer

2:59 PM

No prob

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